(11-28-2015 08:54 PM)Going strong Wrote:  I'm posting the following info on this thread, too (first posting, here: https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-50338...pid1159233 )

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/eu-sets...sCatID=510

According to the main Turkish newspaper in English language, it'll be announced tomorrow that: Visa-free traveling for Turks to EU, is to start in October 2016 : if true, it'd be a definitive and complete destroying of Europe. 70 millions of Turks able to travel and migrate to Europe as they please!

"A European Union draft document, which is expected to be released after a Nov. 29 meeting with Turkey and has been seen by daily Hürriyet, has set October 2016 as the target date for visa exemption for Turkish citizens.
"

Also, Turkey's migrants-related blackmail will earn the Turks 3 billions Euros, and it's "only for starters":

"The draft also highlights that a previously decided 3 billion euros of support to Turkey for refugees is a starter amount"

So, Erdogan has perfectly played his cards: using this migrants crisis, he gets tons of EU money, plus visa-free travel for his citizens! He'll be seen as a hero by his people, while we European taxpayers are ruined and fucked!

Let me point out once again that European citizens were never consulted about this - most were against Turkey joining the EU or having Visa-free access before this current migration crisis started, and I can only imagine what polls would reflect now (if they would bother to conduct any). These are decisions and deals made by Eurocrats in Brussels in clear violation of the original agreements, without referendums and without consideration of the long term implications. Clearly this would be the straw that breaks the camel's back once and for all. Sometimes I wonder if Brussels is on a suicide course - apparently those smug bastards are so sure of themselves that they either don't care or don't worry about public sentiment across member nations swinging hard to the right? OR they do know that the jig is up and simply are going out in a bang - importing as much non-European blood as possible into the Schengen area and knowing well that once inside they'll never be forced to leave.

(09-04-2015 10:50 AM)FilipSRB Wrote:  It is not the end, ...we will prevail.

I hope you're right. Maybe it's all a wake up call to Europeans to become fertile again and breed, forget all the WW2 guilt ("Schuldkultur") and be a bit racist and nationalistic to save your own ass. Yes, if the muslim proportion of the population in France were much higher than it is, the country as a whole would be at risk, and it looks like reactionary forces at work in Germany are slowly forcing the traitorous government to do what is needed.

I had trouble wrapping my head around the contradiction of progressives a) pushing for women's rights while b) pushing for Muslim rights. "Don't they realize they're promoting a culture that brutalizes women? How can they not see this?" Then it dawned on me...

Women's collectivist nature means their best shot in life is joining up with and then following the biggest, strongest provider possible. If the biggest strongest provider is the collectivist welfare state aka liberal ideology, then so be it. Sure, maybe some of them will be violently raped, but this is of less concern to most women than not fitting in, being accepted by the mainstream.

(11-29-2015 05:13 PM)Stadtaffe Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 10:50 AM)FilipSRB Wrote:  It is not the end, ...we will prevail.

I hope you're right. Maybe it's all a wake up call to Europeans to become fertile again and breed, forget all the WW2 guilt ("Schuldkultur") and be a bit racist and nationalistic to save your own ass. Yes, if the muslim proportion of the population in France were much higher than it is, the country as a whole would be at risk, and it looks like reactionary forces at work in Germany are slowly forcing the traitorous government to do what is needed.

I wish I could share your optimism, I really do. My wife was just watching a French news clip covering the memorial services for the Paris attacks. One young girl interviewed said that she didn't want to hang a French flag into her window as she was worried that it would 'offend some of the immigrants'. My wife pretty much went nuclear hearing that - she curses like a sailor (which is quite sexy in French). But the sad lesson here is that the leftist no-borders anti-nationalism contagion has extended far beyond Germany at this point. Over the past 30 years a large percentage of young Europeans have been indoctrinated with an anti-establishment leftist ideology which worships anything extraneous, demonizes their own people or culture, and blames the West for all the suffering in the world. They are a fast growing legion of 'useful idiots' which at minimum oppose or even fight against their own people. Here's today's example:

http://news.yahoo.com/frances-hollande-s...46540.html

I personally think the memorial services is bull as the Paris attacks could have been prevented by properly enforcing controlled legal migration into Europe. But this goes to show how little respect the extreme left has for its own compatriots and their own nation.

Another brawl at a Berlin refugee shelter, with 100+ cops called in:

Quote:Hundreds of refugees have been involved in a mass brawl at a Berlin shelter as lunch was being served, with more than 100 police officers called in to restore order.

The fight on Sunday underlines the difficulties Germany faces in handling hundreds of thousands of migrants. Although incidents in such centres are common, the chaos in the shelter at Berlin’s disused Tempelhof airport was more violent than normal.

“There were apparently many hundreds of people involved,” a police spokesman said. An unspecified number of arrests were made.
Berlin's disused airport to provide temporary shelter for refugees.

Michael Elias, who is in charge of the shelter, said 830 people were housed at the facility and that between 20 and 30 started the disruption. “It’s the simple fact that there are a lot of young men travelling alone here. We withdrew … because the situation simply exploded. It was a complete blow-out,” he said.

Earlier on Sunday morning police were called to another shelter in Berlin, where similar violence forced 500 inhabitants to flee the building. Such scenes feed scepticism among the German public about accepting refugees. Angela Merkel’s popularity has slumped in a sign of the public’s cooling attitude towards the influx of people fleeing conflict in countries such as Syria.

Earlier this year, the German police union and women’s rights groups accused the authorities of playing down reports of sexual assault and even rape at refugee shelters because they feared a backlash against asylum seekers. Interior minister Thomas de Maizière has called on Germans to avoid succumbing to blanket suspicion of migrants, hundreds of thousands of whom have fled to Europe this year.

The situation kind of reminds me of people who hoard pets.

Sure, it starts out all tingly feel-good, rescuing animals. But after the 20th stray cat or dog, you're all living in a house covered in shit.

It must be a fucking madhouse in terms of nightlife in those bigger European cities that are cram packed with migrants. 10,000 or more mostly fighting aged men is plenty to skew the ratios for miles around, even in a 'first-tier' city.

Does anybody have any ground reports? Are nightclubs getting flooded with foreign men?

(11-29-2015 05:45 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 05:13 PM)Stadtaffe Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 10:50 AM)FilipSRB Wrote:  It is not the end, ...we will prevail.

I hope you're right. Maybe it's all a wake up call to Europeans to become fertile again and breed, forget all the WW2 guilt ("Schuldkultur") and be a bit racist and nationalistic to save your own ass. Yes, if the muslim proportion of the population in France were much higher than it is, the country as a whole would be at risk, and it looks like reactionary forces at work in Germany are slowly forcing the traitorous government to do what is needed.

I wish I could share your optimism, I really do. My wife was just watching a French news clip covering the memorial services for the Paris attacks. One young girl interviewed said that she didn't want to hang a French flag into her window as she was worried that it would 'offend some of the immigrants'. My wife pretty much went nuclear hearing that - she curses like a sailor (which is quite sexy in French). But the sad lesson here is that the leftist no-borders anti-nationalism contagion has extended far beyond Germany at this point. Over the past 30 years a large percentage of young Europeans have been indoctrinated with an anti-establishment leftist ideology which worships anything extraneous, demonizes their own people or culture, and blames the West for all the suffering in the world. They are a fast growing legion of 'useful idiots' which at minimum oppose or even fight against their own people. Here's today's example:

http://news.yahoo.com/frances-hollande-s...46540.html

I personally think the memorial services is bull as the Paris attacks could have been prevented by properly enforcing controlled legal migration into Europe. But this goes to show how little respect the extreme left has for its own compatriots and their own nation.

I've been talking with the HBD community and it is possible to be too pessimistic. Worst case scenario is a situation like Lebanon in some countries (France, Sweden probably). And that is assuming nothing changes. One change is that the nationalist parties have good youth outreach. Much better than expected.

Another thing to keep in mind is some nations are worse than others on this issue, some are better. Hungary is a good example, and based on their maps of values they are not as similar to Eastern Europe as one would think. In many ways they are more like Western Europe, probably a holdover from Austro-Hungary.

Denmark and Norway are also much sharper on the issue than most. Switzerland is busy not giving a fuck. Italy is as based as ever. So the damage that does occur won't be total.

Things can always change for the worse too though. But all the news is dark right now and I notice that it has been affecting my mood so I sought out counsel.

So how does this cuckoldry-appeasement deal with Turkey work?

Is there a process by which the people, in theory, can have a say, such as how our constitution mandates that treaties be ratified by the senate? Or is it all just passed quietly behind closed doors by unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats? Assuming its the latter.

I posted this in the 'r-K/selection Molyneux thread' just now, also pertinent to this thread:
"I had a chat today with a cousin of mine.
Intelligent guy in his early fifties.
We spoke a bit about the hordes of migrants coming to Europe, and I tried to make some inroads into undoing the propaganda he'd absorbed from Irish and international mainstream media.
He was semi-open to it, he kind of agreed on the Pandora's box(his words) of all these migrants coming in and the craziness of Merkel & co in encouraging it.
However when I then began to talk about Calais and how the residents are effectively under siege from the migrants, he reverted to "But you can't blame these poor people from coming to Europe, sure they have every right to come here and live where they want" or words to that effect.
I tried to get him to face up to the sheer idiocy of that statement, in as diplomatic a way as I could, but he wasn't buying it, and I could see I'd lost him again.
Hopefully though, I may have planted the seeds in his mind, that he might start to question things a bit more, rather than accepting the r-selected narrative so pushed by mainstream media.
A video like this one from Stefan and Bill Whittle discussing 'r-K/selection' might get those seeds to sprout and grow.
Something like this which is an intelligent, well researched video, which strongly outlines the potentially civilisation ending implications of encouraging and subsidising r-selected behaviour, might just open a few minds, if shared liberally on social media, especially among well read folks who can absorb the concepts in this clip."

(11-29-2015 05:54 PM)Hades Wrote:  It must be a fucking madhouse in terms of nightlife in those bigger European cities that are cram packed with migrants. 10,000 or more mostly fighting aged men is plenty to skew the ratios for miles around, even in a 'first-tier' city.

Does anybody have any ground reports? Are nightclubs getting flooded with foreign men?

Relevant:Immigrants Gender Imbalance in Sweden

Quote:Sweden is reaching China in gender imbalance says Hans Rosling.

From January to October, Sweden received 23,349 refugee children. 21,200 boys & 2,000 were girls. This trend does not only apply to Sweden but in neighboring nation Norway also.

Hans Rosling says there will be serious consequences for the balance between girls and boys in Sweden. Ethnic Swedish boys must now compete with Muslim immigrants over Swedish women.

In twitter tweet Rosling says that the balance between girls and boys changed from 105 (boys per 100 girls) to 113 just in 2015. Rosling also says that with the current pace, then this so-called "TeenSexRatio» for Sweden will change from 113 to 120. He also states that Sweden will become China number 2 in gender imbalance between males and females.

So Sweden has reached level of China in gender inequality due to mass Muslim immigration of males. It is a powerful change in Swedish culture. It has already affected several statistics for Sweden, says Rosling. He also states that free speech, democracy and freedom are destroying the Swedish nation. Cause when people receives to much freedom they just stopped caring about politics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO29xfBJ6KQ

Marine Le Pen at the European parliament, what a murder! A woman with "balls"!

(11-29-2015 05:54 PM)Hades Wrote:  It must be a fucking madhouse in terms of nightlife in those bigger European cities that are cram packed with migrants. 10,000 or more mostly fighting aged men is plenty to skew the ratios for miles around, even in a 'first-tier' city.

Does anybody have any ground reports? Are nightclubs getting flooded with foreign men?

Just from a few days ago - owners of clubs and bars will have to pay hefty fines of up to €5000 if they don't let migrants into their establishment (in German):

http://www.noz.de/deutschland-welt/niede...kur-haften

White Flight from Sweden.

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/201...in-sweden/

(11-29-2015 06:17 PM)quino_16 Wrote:  Relevant:Immigrants Gender Imbalance in Sweden

Quote:An invading army doesn't bring women with them.

Best comment ever.

(11-29-2015 07:23 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO29xfBJ6KQ

Marine Le Pen at the European parliament, what a murder! A woman with "balls"!

Ah, how I would love to see her tag team these mentally ill liberals, cucks, and globalist racketeers with Donald Trump.

We gotta make this happen everyone.

(11-29-2015 06:17 PM)quino_16 Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 05:54 PM)Hades Wrote:  It must be a fucking madhouse in terms of nightlife in those bigger European cities that are cram packed with migrants. 10,000 or more mostly fighting aged men is plenty to skew the ratios for miles around, even in a 'first-tier' city.

Does anybody have any ground reports? Are nightclubs getting flooded with foreign men?

Relevant:Immigrants Gender Imbalance in Sweden

Quote:Sweden is reaching China in gender imbalance says Hans Rosling.

From January to October, Sweden received 23,349 refugee children. 21,200 boys & 2,000 were girls. This trend does not only apply to Sweden but in neighboring nation Norway also.

Hans Rosling says there will be serious consequences for the balance between girls and boys in Sweden. Ethnic Swedish boys must now compete with Muslim immigrants over Swedish women.

In twitter tweet Rosling says that the balance between girls and boys changed from 105 (boys per 100 girls) to 113 just in 2015. Rosling also says that with the current pace, then this so-called "TeenSexRatio» for Sweden will change from 113 to 120. He also states that Sweden will become China number 2 in gender imbalance between males and females.

So Sweden has reached level of China in gender inequality due to mass Muslim immigration of males. It is a powerful change in Swedish culture. It has already affected several statistics for Sweden, says Rosling. He also states that free speech, democracy and freedom are destroying the Swedish nation. Cause when people receives to much freedom they just stopped caring about politics.

While I get that the gender imbalance is a problem, is not like Swedish women will flock to the "exotic" foreign men, a lot of the gender imbalance in China has to do a lot with Chinese women refusing to settle with men that have a socioeconomic status lower than them, Swedish women are not paying attention to the foreign men already in the country, the new one arriving won't make a difference, if these men had not trouble getting Swedish women, the rape problem would not exist, men raping in drove are not the type of men that can get women laid in normal ways, the men who commit rape are the bottom of the totem pole, you see videos of of these men talking about "getting all the European women" when most lives on the street or a housing project and have to masturbate in the ally or going into raping spree to release sexual tension.

Well, as I said on my blog a few months ago, the invaders are definitely going to be the bottom of the sexual totem pole and will remain there as a permanent underclass.

But that in itself causes problems. First, rape will increase, and I think it would even if they were more successful. These guys are from an actual rape culture. So this will make girls more leery.

Second it's going to make white knighting among the local men far worse. I really ought to get my time in Europe in now because pretty soon pussies are going to be far dryer than they are now.

And third is that this permanently sexually disenfranchised underclass will cause significant social unrest, as it has everywhere. I've said this before, but one of the reasons Western civilization has been so successful is because it prohibited polygamy. The top guys always had mistresses but nearly all men were at least guaranteed a wife. That's no longer the case, and this is making it a lot worse.

(11-29-2015 08:03 PM)Libertas Wrote:  And third is that this permanently sexually disenfranchised underclass will cause significant social unrest, as it has everywhere. I've said this before, but one of the reasons Western civilization has been so successful is because it prohibited polygamy. The top guys always had mistresses but nearly all men were at least guaranteed a wife. That's no longer the case, and this is making it a lot worse.

Polygamy cannot sustain itself, it collapses under it own wright, the church implemented monogamy because it was an easy way to make men work beyond what they need to survive on their own and increase the number of followers, the problem with polygamy is that its creates a sexless bottom with massive numbers, this is already happening Middle Easter countries where the rich top 1% can fuck women left and right, import Western girls (Tag the Sponsor) and keep 2-3-4 or 5 wives, while the rest have to pick up a AK47 and go jihad attacking/invading villages around the land hoping to be able to rape one of the Yazidi women or do what the rest do, fuck goats and donkeys. Western countries already are having this problem, 90% of college guys getting all the sex, 5% of guys on Tinder getting all the pussy, top tier guys like DiCaprio can fill a yatch with dozen of women while the average Joe go home with nothing, if you think Elliot Rodger was bad just wait until more incels get angry, there is nothing more dangerous than angry sexless men, while women keep giving the pussy the same guy, Roosh was right that patriarchy will return, why? because the hook up culture (polygamy with another name) need great amount of resources created by traditional families to function, the sexual revolution needed the 50s traditional family to exist in the first place, the 50s had the greater number of people becoming middle class than any other decade, this is why the government keep pushing socialist laws like Obamacare, taxing young men who are not marrying the women, Rome had a bachelor tax before it went down.

(11-29-2015 07:55 PM)Latinopan Wrote:  While I get that the gender imbalance is a problem, is not like Swedish women will flock to the "exotic" foreign men, a lot of the gender imbalance in China has to do a lot with Chinese women refusing to settle with men that have a socioeconomic status lower than them, Swedish women are not paying attention to the foreign men already in the country, the new one arriving won't make a difference, if these men had not trouble getting Swedish women, the rape problem would not exist, men raping in drove are not the type of men that can get women laid in normal ways, the men who commit rape are the bottom of the totem pole, you see videos of of these men talking about "getting all the European women" when most lives on the street or a housing project and have to masturbate in the ally or going into raping spree to release sexual tension.

No, the gender imbalance in China has nothing to do with socioeconomic status and everything to do with the number of women being smaller than the number of men. 100<120. It is a mathematical fact and has nothing to do with game, female hypergamy, or socioeconomic status. Ditto for Sweden.

I just watched a documentary in which it was said that 3 billion people today live without electricity. In yet another documentary I once saw how monks from Myanmar tried to bring electricity to the villages. A young family cried tears of joy when it was announced that their house would get connected to the grid. Because that meant they could get ONE light bulb in the living room, so they could look into each other's eyes at dinner.

And here we spend ungodly amounts of cash to please a few million Iphone carrying, physically able men who in turn complain about the food, the shelter, the weather and just about anything else under the sun.

Such good people. Much humanitarianism. Wow.

I know I'm preaching to the choir but I wanted to post it anyway.

Since my post from the first page was quoted again here, I want to explain my thought process and the source of my optimism. That story is basically the story of the last 2 and a half years of my life and my transformation since discovering this part of the web.

When I came here I had extremely liberal political views and was an atheist. I now call myself an Orthodox Christian again. Obviously this transformation did not happen overnight, but I will tell you what was the final nail in the coffin for my atheistic beliefs. The more I opened my eyes to the horrors of the plan that the elites are obviously pushing and the more I learned about their depravity and of their useful idiots, I realized that I was staring at the abyss that could not be explained by pure science or biology. I believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that these people are motivated by more then simple lust for money and power. Their sins are so many that I no longer doubt about the nature of Man and of the world as described in Christian beliefs. If I am looking at the machinations of powers that can only be described as the powers of Satan, it does not fill me with dread or fear, because that can only mean that there is a God, and that I am fighting a good fight, and that His Will will prevail.

(11-29-2015 05:54 PM)Hades Wrote:  It must be a fucking madhouse in terms of nightlife in those bigger European cities that are cram packed with migrants. 10,000 or more mostly fighting aged men is plenty to skew the ratios for miles around, even in a 'first-tier' city.

Does anybody have any ground reports? Are nightclubs getting flooded with foreign men?

I've been out in Malta a lot over the years, which is a good "canary in the coal mine" for what will happen in the rest of Europe. They've been receiving enormous amounts of African immigrants on boats, being located as the first country immigrants reach when travelling to Europe. They have a very high rate of asylum seekers per capita, being a tiny country of less than half a million population.

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/vie...013.511723

Over the years, I've noticed a dramatic increase in the number of immigrants in the night clubs. The clubs generally have a mixture of Maltese locals and European tourists. The vast majority of immigrants are black, so this might not be 100% applicable to Middle Eastern refugees, but I hope you can draw some insights.

- 100% of immigrants in the clubs are men, although there seem to be a few immigrant women working in the strip clubs.
- They go out every night of the week. I repeatedly saw the same guys night after night. This means that they actually have an even more damaging impact than would be shown from just looking at the gender ratio.
- It looks like they are attempting to run "badboy" game by dressing like they are in an American ghetto.
- They seem to run "patience game", standing alone at the bar for very long periods of time, followed by swooping in when they see an opportunity (usually a drunk and isolated girl).
- I generally haven't seem them achieve huge amounts of success. Locals absolutely hate them, but tourists will occasionally go for it. They play the numbers and just keep going. They'll often go for fatties, and occasionally I see them with a hot girl.
- They have aggressive after-club street game. They do a lot of hitting on girls on the street and at bus stops.
- Women may not love them, but it absolutely hurts your game. Women get put on edge from being hit on, and from there being so many guys, which makes them more resistant to your approaches.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d82_1448884431

just incase anyone thought there was still hope for the UK.

To those who don't know Birmingham UK is one of the southern UK cities that currently has white native locals in the minority, Birmingham is pretty much the most prominent example of the quickly deteriorating culture of the UK.

Sorry for the double post but this is quite interesting:





I wonder if the EU leaders will take the invitation, hopefully it won't fall on deaf ears.

(11-27-2015 07:30 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  The problem is not "immigration". The problem is mass immigration by hordes of people that do not exactly wish to integrate within the current system but rather have a subversive effect within the system. I am hoping for the day that some Eurocrat enlightened mind understands that Islam is not compatible with the West in a multicultural scenario until it gets SECULARIZED.

Problem is Islam can't be secularized ever and will never be compatible with the west.

(11-30-2015 07:20 AM)FilipSRB Wrote:  Since my post from the first page was quoted again here, I want to explain my thought process and the source of my optimism. That story is basically the story of the last 2 and a half years of my life and my transformation since discovering this part of the web.

When I came here I had extremely liberal political views and was an atheist. I now call myself an Orthodox Christian again. Obviously this transformation did not happen overnight, but I will tell you what was the final nail in the coffin for my atheistic beliefs. The more I opened my eyes to the horrors of the plan that the elites are obviously pushing and the more I learned about their depravity and of their useful idiots, I realized that I was staring at the abyss that could not be explained by pure science or biology. I believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that these people are motivated by more then simple lust for money and power. Their sins are so many that I no longer doubt about the nature of Man and of the world as described in Christian beliefs. If I am looking at the machinations of powers that can only be described as the powers of Satan, it does not fill me with dread or fear, because that can only mean that there is a God, and that I am fighting a good fight, and that His Will will prevail.

So you were an atheist and now you believe in god and satan because bad things are happening in the world and think an entity that personifies all evil is responsible for it, is that it? I think the complete insanity we're witnessing can very well be explained by human stupidity without having to resort to supernatural entities.

That's Czech police car protecting Hungarian (read European) border.

   
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