I wonder if Germany will cut off further funding to Greece to take care of the "refugees". Or if all of the EU will go down together.

(09-12-2015 07:51 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-12-2015 07:35 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(09-12-2015 03:01 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-12-2015 11:39 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Turkey is a controlled puppet country.

The west has always had them under their thumb.

Yes. This was the result of WW1.

But if Turkey falls to ISIS as the West goes broke, bets are off the table.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantrepor...sion-home/

Turkey isn't going to fall under ISIS, the boogeyman is going after Iran once they are done with Syria.

Once that starts, WW3 will be coming to a theatre near you.

Although it's possible ISIS is created and funded by the USA, such a behavior would bankrupt America very quickly so we'd find out if this true sooner rather than later. Wars are not cheap.

People would know who it was done for. A small levantine country.

Stop no...come back.

http://www.euronews.com/2015/09/12/refug...come-into/

Quote:Refugees are rushing to leave Hungary ahead of new stricter immigration controls coming into effect.

Prime Minister Victor Orban announced that anyone illegally crossing the border will be arrested starting from Tuesday.

Many began the anxious wait to board the last trains heading to Germany and Austria before the deadline.

“We need to get them out of Hungary as soon as possible before the military enter into the situation and try to solve it. So we need to get all the refugees out of Budapest as soon as possible, before 15th,” said a volunteer Mashaal Al-Hajri.

I stopped there for a reason.

(09-12-2015 03:17 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  I've been speaking to a lot of from Europe and the Mideast about current situations going on and have monitored some conflicts for years. I know Turkey isn't a bad place at all. They wanted to join the EU at one point. At first I believed the EU turned them down for money reasons looking for "human rights violations" or other excuses. Now I know it's because they couldn't whip the EU into the same defeatist agenda if east European countries and Turkey had gotten in.

Keeping Turkey out of the E.U. serves the geopolitical aims of both the U.S. and the E.U. First it allows an external state to be a pivot for military operations which is not completely beholden to E.U. type regulations/watching eyes.

This means all sorts of shady intel or military activity can be based in Turkey. They can serve as a hitman of sorts for E.U. and U.S. interests.

Turkey has an important link to central asia and it is also a much better "bridge" to the middle east than Israel for obvious reasons. Turkey's population is more secular but still has some credibility in the muslim world. Turkey is able to straddle both religious and cultural lines at times when it's convenient to push an agenda. If Turkey joined the E.U. they would lose a lot of trust in the muslim world.

They also don't draw nearly as much heat for being pro-west unlike if let's say the U.S./E.U. based entirely in Israel or some shit which would be far too blatant.

Its interesting that.. a third of the migrants don't want to be registered..

I heard this on the radio today and thought of this thread. The final countdown of Europe. Btw who is the muscular David Bowie with mullet?

(09-12-2015 08:46 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  Its interesting that.. a third of the migrants don't want to be registered..

According to some international treaties (or maybe EU laws), the asylum seekers must seek asylum in the first safe country where they arrive, and if they register in Hungary or Greece, they won't be able to claim asylum in Germany and definitely none of the German welfare or job opportunities.

(09-12-2015 07:51 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-12-2015 07:35 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(09-12-2015 03:01 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-12-2015 11:39 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Turkey is a controlled puppet country.

The west has always had them under their thumb.

Yes. This was the result of WW1.

But if Turkey falls to ISIS as the West goes broke, bets are off the table.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantrepor...sion-home/

Turkey isn't going to fall under ISIS, the boogeyman is going after Iran once they are done with Syria.

Once that starts, WW3 will be coming to a theatre near you.

Although it's possible ISIS is created and funded by the USA, such a behavior would bankrupt America very quickly so we'd find out if this true sooner rather than later. Wars are not cheap.

Somehow it looks like they have money to waste on War.

http://pgpf.org/Chart-Archive/0053_defense-comparison

More CIA / ISIS connection

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-created-...or/5457911

http://www.rt.com/op-edge/168064-isis-te...a-cia-war/

(09-12-2015 09:03 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Somehow it looks like they have money to waste on War.

http://pgpf.org/Chart-Archive/0053_defense-comparison

More CIA / ISIS connection

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-created-...or/5457911

http://www.rt.com/op-edge/168064-isis-te...a-cia-war/

I've said it before, Al-Qaeda, ISIS and the so called "moderate" Syrian opposition are the same radical Islamic network structures created by the US and maintained under US control ever since, their mercenary fighters just change labels as needed, but all their high level commands come from Washington, this however doesn't mean that every lunatic radical fighter is aware of who his top master really is.

I dont think this was posted. About 2 months old.





You guys see an invasion, i see a business opportunity here. By next year their benefits should be steadily flowing in. Cant wait.

As someone without a horse in the European race, I think it's hilarious and get a chuckle or two at the coming doom for the Europe.

When people are complete idiots for years I enjoy watching the hammer finally fall and for people to get what their behavior deserves. It's a travesty for sure to lose such a previously wonderful group of cultures, but that's the bed they've made.

(09-12-2015 10:56 PM)ball dont lie Wrote:  As someone without a horse in the European race, I think it's hilarious and get a chuckle or two at the coming doom for the Europe.

When people are complete idiots for years I enjoy watching the hammer finally fall and for people to get what their behavior deserves. It's a travesty for sure to lose such a previously wonderful group of cultures, but that's the bed they've made.

Doom? Nah.

(09-12-2015 10:56 PM)ball dont lie Wrote:  As someone without a horse in the European race, I think it's hilarious and get a chuckle or two at the coming doom for the Europe.

When people are complete idiots for years I enjoy watching the hammer finally fall and for people to get what their behavior deserves. It's a travesty for sure to lose such a previously wonderful group of cultures, but that's the bed they've made.

If you're from the U.S., you don't necessarily have a horse in the European "race" but the EU and the U.S. are so inextricably linked that neither is fully insulated from one another.

(09-12-2015 03:22 PM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  Nigel Farage thinks the United Kingdom's EU referendum will be held in March. And he's never been wrong when it comes to EU stuff.

Quote:JUNCKER IS DOING TO EUROPE WHAT BLAIR DID TO BRITAIN, IMPORTING VOTERS

This week in Strasbourg there was Commission President Jean Claude-Juncker’s first State of the Union speech. He did as he said and made an intensely political speech. Most of the focus was on the current migration crisis or as Mr Juncker and his friends in Brussels call it, ‘the refugee crisis’.

I had warned back in April that I believed the implementation of the EU Common Asylum Policy had set the bounds so wide that virtually anyone who sets foot on European Union (EU) soil can stay. In order for this policy to work, the concept of burden-sharing between member states is vital. Juncker’s first pitch at this was in May this year with 40,000 migrants to be shared out.

This week the figure had increased to 160,000, still only a fraction of those who have come. I still believe that many member states will be deeply reluctant to join this scheme and that Juncker has a real crisis in holding these nation states together.

But the real surprise was a short paragraph on a Common EU Immigration policy. All the old arguments were used: Europe’s population was in decline and ageing and therefore immigration into Europe was vital. Indeed his predecessor, Manuel Barroso, once suggested that the EU may need as many 50 million migrants.

But the real shock of the announcement is that Juncker said detailed proposals would be presented in the spring. He also talked about the British renegotiation, joking that Cameron was a British European to which I did added: “you bet he is!”

Juncker made it clear that some form of deregulation package would be prepared. But equally he said that the free movement of workers would not be touched.

All of this is a nightmare for Cameron. A Common EU Immigration policy that gives people a green card is not designed to be a work permit scheme. It is designed for people to settle and very soon to become naturalised EU citizens.

This is important for Mr Juncker and his friends because as the European Union loses popularity with its electorates, what better way to prop up EU support than vast numbers of first generation pro-EU migrants.

It is all reminiscent of what Blair did in Britain and exposed why Labour are so strong in London.

Mr. Cameron’s problem is that whilst he will no doubt say we are opting out of the common immigration policy, once migrants become naturalised they will have the automatic right to come to Britain. And this proposal once presented next spring is likely to dominate the EU debate next year.

For a Prime Minister who wants to convince the electorate that removing a few social benefits from migrants is enough to convince the British to remain members of the borderless EU, this could not have come at a worse time.

Indeed I now think, though I’m by no means certain, that there is now a much greater likelihood of this referendum being announced in Cameron’s conference speech with the referendum being held in March.

Whether this hunch is right or not, I’m pleased that my own Say No to EU tour launched this week in Margate. With nearly 1,500 people attending it was a heartening start to the campaign and I’m going to make sure that even more dates than previously planned will be going in my diary. We haven’t a moment to lose.

* * * * *

Aside from governing our own country and controlling our borders, our private polling shows that the third most important issue for British voters is the sheer cost of the thing. We pay £55 million per day to be a member of a club whose accounts have not had a clean bill of help from the auditors for 19 years.

But a few further hammer blows this week. First, that the cost of dispersing Mr. Juncker’s 160,000 migrants will fall on the UK even though we are opted out of the EU’s Common Asylum policy. Some estimates put this cost at a huge £90 million.

In addition, as reported by Breitbart London, after all the grand gestures of Mr Cameron saying he wouldn’t hand the EU another £1.7 billion, it looks like he’s capitulated yet again and handed over even more British taxpayers’ cash to Brussels.

Much of what has emanated from the EU this week could only be described as a gift.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/...ng-voters/

Although, Juncker has said that UK will probably leave and EU will survive without them, I don't agree. If and when UK leaves, it's over.

I've been paying more and more attention to Nigel and have much respect for him. I read that his family was harassed by ANTIFA/Leftist cunts while he was running in the elections.

I've also seen him on news broadcasts and Question Time and treated with handle feminazis and multi-cultists like a boss.

Farage's only weakness, versus someone like Trump (but it is Britain and he is less famous so maybe it's not a huge disadvantage), is he does care about being called a bigot.

Just start a party called The Racist Party embrace it.

Agree and amplify.

(09-13-2015 12:04 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  Just start a party called The Racist Party embrace it.

Agree and amplify.

One person to start The Racist Party, one person to start The Sexist Party, and one person to start the Communist Party, as the foil to the other too.

G

We should troll liberals with articles like this:

"If you do not leave your job you are taking it from the refugees!"
"If you do not kill yourself you are taking space from the refugees!"
"If you do not give up your house you are using your white privilege!"

(09-12-2015 10:46 PM)dedocahedron Wrote:  I dont think this was posted. About 2 months old.





You guys see an invasion, i see a business opportunity here. By next year their benefits should be steadily flowing in. Cant wait.

This guy is completely on point, rational, clear and very articulate.

This thread has some serious white nationalist LOL. I will be waiting for Obama to suspend US elections while the US military invades Europe.

(09-13-2015 04:08 AM)nomadicdude Wrote:  This thread has some serious white nationalist LOL. I will be waiting for Obama to suspend US elections while the US military invades Europe.

It has been in Europe since Churchill invited it to the UK to reverse his defeat at Dunkirk.

(09-12-2015 10:56 PM)ball dont lie Wrote:  As someone without a horse in the European race, I think it's hilarious and get a chuckle or two at the coming doom for the Europe.

When people are complete idiots for years I enjoy watching the hammer finally fall and for people to get what their behavior deserves. It's a travesty for sure to lose such a previously wonderful group of cultures, but that's the bed they've made.

You're forgetting the European continent gave birth to some of the most destructive forces this planet has ever seen. All of these forces can be traced back to bettering/defending themselves or outright hatred for a certain group.

It terrified and consumed the planets biggest continents. If the hammer does fall then it wont be pretty.

(09-13-2015 04:08 AM)nomadicdude Wrote:  This thread has some serious white nationalist LOL. I will be waiting for Obama to suspend US elections while the US military invades Europe.

It's not white nationalism at all.

There are white economic migrants coming to my country as well as African and Middle Eastern. I don't want any of them here, even though they are propping up our economy.

I'm not racist and I'm not xenophobic. I just prefer organic change in relation to my country, over organised change. I like living in my country, and I like being a productive member of its society, but we have some problems that need sorting out, and the addition of new people who have no ties, affiliation or interest in maintaining the existing status quo, does not help us sort out our problems or improve our society. Wages are being forced down my the influx of people from poorer countries who will work for peanuts. Housing is becoming scarce. Our health system is under severe strain, etc..

Instead of applying critical thought to the problems in my country, the leaders and rulers are taking the path of least resistance. There were staff shortages in the health service, so instead of investing money in training, immigrants were brought in to fill the gaps. Our economy had to meet certain growth targets to satisfy unnecessary requirements forced upon us by the EU, so instead of telling the EU to get lost, our leaders opened the doors to immigrants because they thought it would keep them elected and bolster the economy.

Just because I see through the bullshit and dislike what is happening, does not make me a white nationalist. There are many non-white people in my country who feel similar to me. Their families came here from places that were once colonies, and they came here with an understanding of the place they were going to, and they integrated fully and made the country stronger. It's not racist or xenophobic of me to say that is not going to happen with immigration of this type and scale, it's honest and realistic to accept that it is going to end badly.

(09-13-2015 04:08 AM)nomadicdude Wrote:  This thread has some serious white nationalist LOL. I will be waiting for Obama to suspend US elections while the US military invades Europe.

Yes it's obviously white supremacy to want countries where White people evolved over millions of years to stay White

(09-13-2015 06:49 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  

(09-13-2015 04:08 AM)nomadicdude Wrote:  This thread has some serious white nationalist LOL. I will be waiting for Obama to suspend US elections while the US military invades Europe.

It's not white nationalism at all.

There are white economic migrants coming to my country as well as African and Middle Eastern. I don't want any of them here, even though they are propping up our economy.

I'm not racist and I'm not xenophobic. I just prefer organic change in relation to my country, over organised change. I like living in my country, and I like being a productive member of its society, but we have some problems that need sorting out, and the addition of new people who have no ties, affiliation or interest in maintaining the existing status quo, does not help us sort out our problems or improve our society. Wages are being forced down my the influx of people from poorer countries who will work for peanuts. Housing is becoming scarce. Our health system is under severe strain, etc..

Instead of applying critical thought to the problems in my country, the leaders and rulers are taking the path of least resistance. There were staff shortages in the health service, so instead of investing money in training, immigrants were brought in to fill the gaps. Our economy had to meet certain growth targets to satisfy unnecessary requirements forced upon us by the EU, so instead of telling the EU to get lost, our leaders opened the doors to immigrants because they thought it would keep them elected and bolster the economy.

Just because I see through the bullshit and dislike what is happening, does not make me a white nationalist. There are many non-white people in my country who feel similar to me. Their families came here from places that were once colonies, and they came here with an understanding of the place they were going to, and they integrated fully and made the country stronger. It's not racist or xenophobic of me to say that is not going to happen with immigration of this type and scale, it's honest and realistic to accept that it is going to end badly.

Trying to justify yourself to fools, idiots, charlatans, and others in bad faith will just waste your time and keep you from victory.

Do you think Europe became great worrying about being called "racist"?

Racism is a cartoon word. It is a Talmudic Jewish heresy invention. It was purposely created by Jewish Communists in the 1920's in order to destabilize the USA and Nazi's as the USSR's main competitors. The word entered the mainstream when it was used by Lenin.

Back in Christian times, there was no such thing as "racism" because it wasn't needed to control people's thoughts in such a manner, if someone hated someone merely because of their race it was called being hateful. The word racist adds zero value to the discussion, but the word racist was introduced in order to get White nations to become cuckolds.