Post: #1

The article is not just about fake tits, but rather the gender disparity in the Mormon and Orthodox Jew religions. Apparently in Salt Lake City there are 3 single Mormon women for every 2 single Mormon guys.

Not a bad ratio at all. The article states that some Mormon women are marrying outside their faith as they cannot find a LDS husband. Overall it was a very interesting read.

An excerpt;

Quote:Psychologists Marcia Guttentag and Paul Secord argued in Too Many Women?— the pioneering book on lopsided gender ratios—that women are more likely to be treated as sex objects whenever men are scarce. That is precisely what Mormon women now experience.

“Women’s bodies are up for debate,” Wheelwright complained. Mormon men have become much more demanding about women’s looks, which in turn has made women obsessed with standing out from the competition. One consequence: A culture of plastic surgery has taken root among Mormon women.

“I have seen more outrageous boob jobs and facial plastic surgery in Utah than almost anywhere in the country—especially among Mormon women,” said Bowman. “They may claim chastity as a virtue overall, but that’s not stopping anyone from getting a set of double-Ds.”

Mormons rushing to get boob jobs may sound far-fetched, but Bowman’s assertion is supported by the leading consumer review site for cosmetic surgery, RealSelf.com. According to a 2011 RealSelf study, Salt Lake City residents did more searches for breast implants on the RealSelf website than residents of any other city. Moreover, a 2007 Forbes story labeled Salt Lake City “America’s Vainest City,” with four plastic surgeons for every 100,000 people, which was 2.5 times the national average. Salt Lake City residents also spent inordinate sums on beauty products—$2.2 million in 2006 on hair coloring and $6.9 million on cosmetics and skin care products, according to Forbes. By comparison, Oklahoma City, a city with a slightly larger population, spent $172,000 and $594,000, respectively.

http://time.com/dateonomics/

Any guys on the ground that can verify this?

Edit-The article also has an interactive map showing the number of single women compared to single men by county for the entire US. Very interesting if it is accurate.

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(09-10-2015 09:57 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  The article is not just about fake tits, but rather the gender disparity in the Mormon and Orthodox Jew religions. Apparently in Salt Lake City there are 3 single Mormon women for every 2 single Mormon guys.

Not a bad ratio at all. The article states that some Mormon women are marrying outside their faith as they cannot find a LDS husband. Overall it was a very interesting read.

An excerpt;

Quote:Psychologists Marcia Guttentag and Paul Secord argued in Too Many Women?— the pioneering book on lopsided gender ratios—that women are more likely to be treated as sex objects whenever men are scarce. That is precisely what Mormon women now experience.

“Women’s bodies are up for debate,” Wheelwright complained. Mormon men have become much more demanding about women’s looks, which in turn has made women obsessed with standing out from the competition. One consequence: A culture of plastic surgery has taken root among Mormon women.

“I have seen more outrageous boob jobs and facial plastic surgery in Utah than almost anywhere in the country—especially among Mormon women,” said Bowman. “They may claim chastity as a virtue overall, but that’s not stopping anyone from getting a set of double-Ds.”

Mormons rushing to get boob jobs may sound far-fetched, but Bowman’s assertion is supported by the leading consumer review site for cosmetic surgery, RealSelf.com. According to a 2011 RealSelf study, Salt Lake City residents did more searches for breast implants on the RealSelf website than residents of any other city. Moreover, a 2007 Forbes story labeled Salt Lake City “America’s Vainest City,” with four plastic surgeons for every 100,000 people, which was 2.5 times the national average. Salt Lake City residents also spent inordinate sums on beauty products—$2.2 million in 2006 on hair coloring and $6.9 million on cosmetics and skin care products, according to Forbes. By comparison, Oklahoma City, a city with a slightly larger population, spent $172,000 and $594,000, respectively.

http://time.com/dateonomics/

Any guys on the ground that can verify this?

Edit-The article also has an interactive map showing the number of single women compared to single men by county for the entire US. Very interesting if it is accurate.

Double D's are God's work on earth.

Post: #3

You should know that this is utterly useless without pics.

Post: #4

Someone needs to drop a Mormon datasheet

Post: #5

Is this a plus for Mormon girls or a minus? Can go either way.

Post: #6

Hot Mormon Muffins calendar girl

Post: #7

Makes me want to be a poligamyst.

Post: #8

Most Mormon girls I've come across take care of themselves to look attractive. They marry young and don't slut it up. Seems pretty ideal and traditional.

Post: #9

The Salt Lake City thread is interesting and states by locals it could be the best place to find a wife in the U.S. especially if you are willing to go LDS and even the left over LDS abandoner chicks are still good wife quality compared to the average American chick by far.

The gears in my brain are starting to turn...

Post: #10

Mormans ?

Post: #11

(09-10-2015 11:29 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Mormans ?

oops... Maybe Roosh or Tuth can fix it

Would help search traffic anyway

Post: #12

I only kid, but I've noticed mormon girls are pretty top notch in the looks department.

I've had experiences with them and friends who are mormon.

They've got slut mode or super conservative I haven't seen many in between.

Post: #13

(09-10-2015 11:20 PM)Travesty Wrote:  The Salt Lake City thread is interesting and states by locals it could be the best place to find a wife in the U.S. especially if you are willing to go LDS and even the left over LDS abandoner chicks are still good wife quality compared to the average American chick by far.

The gears in my brain are starting to turn...

Going LDS seems like a bit of a sacrifice. Plus, aren't they all about your tithing?

I mean Romney and all?

This only applies to marriage not as much of a deal to bang.

Post: #14

delete

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Post: #16

Nothing better than a girl with long lithe legs and big firm tits, even if fake.

Maybe I'll go meet up with Travesty and we'll write, with Roosh's permission, Bang Salt Lake City.

Post: #17

(09-11-2015 01:05 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

Post: #18

Smells like BS. Human birth ratios everywhere tend to about 5-6% more males than females -- how do you end up with 200% more women?? Are men escaping in droves, are they being thrown out of the society, is there a civil Mormon war?

I can't seem to find firm info on whether polygamy is still common or rarely practiced.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_boys_...mentalism)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/ju...lianborger

Quote:Joanne Suder, a lawyer representing some of the Lost Boys in a case against the sect, said there had been "a conspiracy to excommunicate young boys to change the arithmetic so there are more young girls available for polygamy."

Post: #19

(09-12-2015 11:28 AM)phoenix101 Wrote:  Smells like BS. Human birth ratios everywhere tend to about 5-6% more males than females -- how do you end up with 200% more women?? Are men escaping in droves, are they being thrown out of the society, is there a civil Mormon war?

I can't seem to find firm info on whether polygamy is still common or rarely practiced.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_boys_...mentalism)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/ju...lianborger

Quote:Joanne Suder, a lawyer representing some of the Lost Boys in a case against the sect, said there had been "a conspiracy to excommunicate young boys to change the arithmetic so there are more young girls available for polygamy."

I knew a couple mormon girls in HS and they were cute. Definitely wifey material if a guy wants to get married and convert to LDS.

A lot of girls want monogamy and marriage. But just think about how many guys in their 20's really want to get married or be monogamous. Then think about how many of those guys want to attend church weekly. Men are also more independent, atheist, and will leave their religions until they have families.

So you have an imbalance of 20-30 year old nice Mormon girls who want to get married and have babies, but all the Mormon guys are leaving the church and being players.

But I wonder if these girls would ever marry someone not-Mormon or is converting to Mormonism kinda required for non-Christian men?

Post: #20

I definitely want to hear more about mormon chicks marrying outside their religion and an overall analysis of how that works/feasibility.

I have had pretty good experiences with mormon chicks and mormons in general. I could never convert to the religion (Take my money? No alcohol? Fuck that) but I've said before that mormon girls are probably one of the last refuges in the US if you want a young traditional white woman housewife.

If and when I want kids I could get a good quality traditional mormon girl WITHOUT joining the religion, that might be the sweetspot right there for me in the US. This definitely needs to be explored more thoroughly.

Post: #21

(08-15-2016 05:06 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  I definitely want to hear more about mormon chicks marrying outside their religion and an overall analysis of how that works/feasibility.

I have had pretty good experiences with mormon chicks and mormons in general. I could never convert to the religion (Take my money? No alcohol? Fuck that) but I've said before that mormon girls are probably one of the last refuges in the US if you want a young traditional white woman housewife.

If and when I want kids I could get a good quality traditional mormon girl WITHOUT joining the religion, that might be the sweetspot right there for me in the US. This definitely needs to be explored more thoroughly.

This reminds me of a what a player I knew in the 80's who had his heart set on a Mormon girl told me. All of his friends told him it was hopeless.

He didn't give up because he would always assure anyone who inquired that "she wants it, I know she wants it."

Few months pass, and I ask him about her, and he says, "Yeah, I nailed her. See? I told you she wanted it."

I ask him to tell me the story, and he says, "All I had to do was marry her, and convert to her religion, and I nailed that shit! She fucks like a rabbit"

Haven't heard from him in a while. Maybe he moved to Utah.

Post: #22

(08-15-2016 05:06 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  I definitely want to hear more about mormon chicks marrying outside their religion and an overall analysis of how that works/feasibility.

I have had pretty good experiences with mormon chicks and mormons in general. I could never convert to the religion (Take my money? No alcohol? Fuck that) but I've said before that mormon girls are probably one of the last refuges in the US if you want a young traditional white woman housewife.

If and when I want kids I could get a good quality traditional mormon girl WITHOUT joining the religion, that might be the sweetspot right there for me in the US. This definitely needs to be explored more thoroughly.

Religion is the oldest playbook for getting laid. Think of all those weird hippie cult leaders that preach about polygamy. All those preachers cast a religious spell over impressionable women, and get them to sleep with them because god said so!

It seems Mormons are pretty strict and there isn't really a way to be an occasional member. I suppose it depends on the wife and whether she wants the husband to attend church services or just brings the kids by herself. Women are way more observational and practicing, maybe they like the community support that churches provide for families. Men don't really care about religion but if a guy wants to get married or screw a hot Mormon girl, its probably required to convert.

Mormons are taught that getting into Heaven is all about procreating (so they are very sexually focused) and are also taught polygamy is okay. That seems slightly better than the traditional christian religions that are sexually repressed.

But I wonder if Mormons are okay with inter-racial marriages (as long as the man is also Mormon)?

Post: #23

Once in a blue moon, you can catch Mormons walking around in the nicer malls in Central NJ. I remember once being out with a friend and seeing a Mormon woman and her daughter. They were both dressed impeccably; they looked like celebrities. Every dude within a 20-foot radius was looking hard. They were extremely beautiful. Not hot, but totally beautiful. Like you might paint a picture of them or something and ask for their hands in marriage. Just totally not what you'd expect in the Northeastern United States. There was not a hint of attention whoring coming off of them.

I only later found out they were Mormons because that friend told he had tried to approach some girls who looked that same way and they were super polite but later told him they were Mormons and married! Who knew that Northern NJ had mormons?

Post: #24

Mormon girls seem like good prospects, but they're fundamentally damaged by the mind fucking their religion gives them. Ex mormon girls are as well, just in a different way, and they bring a lot of the same family baggage practicing mormon girls have as well.

Look into how incredibly involved mormons are in their church, consider the expectations placed on mormons by their community (it's a fucking shitload of time commitment and money), and think about the stress it's going to bring on your mormon wife if people are constantly wondering why her husband is not part of the community. I've seen it. It's not pretty. It is very stressful on all members of the family, including the kids.

As I've said before in various places on this forum, mormons, while generally nice, law abiding, productive people who make good allies, should absolutely be viewed as a separate insular tribe by the rest of us. I assure you they view the rest of us as outsiders, and we're never going to be anything but outsiders unless we convert.

You want to get seriously, formally involved with a mormon, you'd better plan on converting and abiding by the rules. Otherwise, you're inviting a lot of trouble and pain.

Just my opinion, based on my fairly extensive experience with mormons, dating ex mormons with still practicing family members, and seriously investigating a long term relationship with a nice mormon girl a couple years ago when I was wife hunting.

It was pretty annoying coming to these conclusions, though. The vast majority of women I've met in the last decade that I thought were clear wife material were mormons. The rest were rural small town girls, and I've never found a reliable way of meeting them before they get corrupted or married without actively going hunting on the road.

Post: #25

I had a Mormon acquaintance in college and he explained the male/female balance to me this way. The early still-polygamous culture of the LDS wouldn't work unless you found some way to skew the gender ratio, as births will, as we know, produce only slightly more females. When polygamy was abolished by the LDS church, they didn't really substantially cut back on the methods they developed to get the gender balance they needed for the elders to have teenage harems. Lets not fool ourselves on what this was all about; adding anther 15 year old to a powerful church elders harem every few years.

The main way they achieved this was simply getting rid of young men at the times in their lives when they would normally be pairing up and starting families. Missionary work is the most visible example of this. Most of us have probably personally encountered these fellows (and they are always men) in non-Mormon areas. Another way was to make them seek work outside the Provo valley. Its not that there wasn't a need for strong young men in a largely agricultural settlement, quite the opposite. Since all the land owners were also LDS elders, they just wouldn't hire them so they had to seek work, usually skilled trades, outside Utah. The requirement to tithe was of course not removed. After a decade or so of working on the railroad or construction in California or elsewhere they might try their luck with starting a family back in Utah, or try to find a women to convert where they are and start a family. Many of the Mormon communities outside Utah started this way. If these things didn't provide the desired ratio there was always excommunication.

In modern times the cultural habit of young men leaving Utah is still in place via missionary and occupational pursuits but also college. Higher education is not particularly encouraged for Moron women but isn't forbidden. So young Mormon men are still growing up in a culture where its considered normal to physically leave the Provo valley for a number of reasons, and the rest of the world is pretty tempting; many of them don't return. Whether they stay with LDS and build a life outside of Utah, just sort of drift away from the LDS church or become formally apostates, the end result is the imbalance witnessed back in the Mormon heartland.

The women, naturally risk averse and incurious about the world, tend to stick around. It usually takes an event of abuse or trauma to spur them into leaving the church or the area.

The comments of weambulance above also match my experiences. For a Mormon of either gender to become an apostate is to essentially divorce their entire family, minus any other apostates. Even Mormon apostates outside Utah tend to form social groups of all Mormon apostates, they are really that insular.