This is a good thing to read. It explains why these asylum seekers don't fit in with Europeans, and also why any armed conflict would go to Europeans (yes even today):

https://www.strategypage.com/dls/article...020909.asp

The summary

Quote:Most Arab countries are a patchwork of different tribes and groups, and Arab leaders survive by playing one group off against another. Loyalty is to one's group, not the nation. Most countries are dominated by a single group that is usually a minority (Bedouins in Jordan, Alawites in Syria, Sunnis in Iraq, Nejdis in Saudi Arabia). All of which means that officers are assigned not by merit but by loyalty and tribal affiliation.

(09-10-2015 02:52 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Syrian girl migrated to Australia as a child because her family was exiled by Bashar's father, Hafez. And she is absolutely not an SJW.

My mistake on the SJW part. However she is not representative of your average Syrian, is my point. She's Westernized and comes from an upper class family.

(09-10-2015 02:54 PM)Troll King Wrote:  

I was hoping he would say "Remove Kebab."

(09-10-2015 02:42 PM)Troll King Wrote:  Here is an interesting video on the cultural changes in Germany due to Islam and second generation migrant citizens. It is a bit hamfisted, at least the first 15 minutes or so that I have watched so far, with the feminism v. Islamic culture narrative.

Having said that, there is quite a lot to be learned from even the lefty woman. Go to the part where she interviews students who felt the Charlie Hebdo attack was justified. In one part of the exchange with the, I guess HS students, she kept mentioning the constitution and whether or not the kids beliefs trump it.

What I thought was interesting is that after a second or two, the kid and his friend say that family, and especially the father as head of the family, is more important than the constitution. You can see the old fat bitch get a bit triggered at that moment.

It does show how these internationalist, and even far left nationalists, really do use secularism and the state as a replacement or proxy for the father with the intent of breaking up family structures.

The video illustrates exactly what is described in this post.

The West is outsourcing everything, even increasing the population of it's nations in order to keep economic growth going. It's the zero-investment solution.

The thing with SyrianGirl is that although she is attractive, intelligent, and politically aware... she is in many ways a good example of why diversity doesn't work. Because she identifies more as a Syrian than an Australian.

And in no way can it be blamed on any sort of alienation. Now obviously, she's not a threat to the Australian way of life at all. But someone more disconnected than her and less intelligent than her probably would be.

(09-10-2015 03:05 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  The video illustrates exactly what is described in this post.

The West is outsourcing everything, even increasing the population of it's nations in order to keep economic growth going. It's the zero-investment solution.

Yeah, I remember reading that awhile back. I have thought the same thing for awhile now. I will go ahead and quote it here for others to see.

(05-17-2015 12:56 PM)Excelsior Wrote:  

(05-16-2015 06:16 AM)Blick Mang Wrote:  Mormons, Muslims, and traditional Christians will inherit the world we're building.
Traditional gender roles exist for a reason.

The irony in all of this is brilliant, and it is the main reason why I'm going to so greatly enjoy watching things play out over the course of the next generation or so.

Here you have a bunch of people with a certain set of views on life and the nature of a good "civilized society". They consider these progressive views important, so naturally they promote them aggressively. They want to see the acceptance of these views increase in the future.

At the same time, however, they outsource the development and nurturing of the next generation of human beings to groups of people who have absolutely no sympathy for these progressive views on life and what constitutes a civilized society.

They don't support multiculturalism as an inherent good.
They don't believe in sexual liberation done the western way.
They don't buy into most of the aims of western feminism or accept the liberation of the female from "traditional gender roles" as an inherent good that is necessary and beneficial to pursue.
They're not terribly tolerant.
They're not big on challenging religious orthodoxy, and in fact promote/perpetuate it.

I could really go on, but suffice it to say that the mindsets these people have are in complete conflict with the goals and dreams of your standard progressive westerner. Yet these westerners see no issue with the fact that they have essentially delegated the development of the next generation of human beings to these very people, as if those people are going to join hands with them and buy into the project of creating what progressive westerners consider a more "civilized", liberal society.

What do these progressive westerners expect to happen as these people to whom they have handed the task of guiding the next generation increase their demographic dominance globally?

So far, westerners have managed to completely avoid facing the realities of this dynamic. They don't acknowledge the consequences of their own decisions to discourage procreation and they have simply ignored the consequences of the rest of the world making contrary decisions. So ignorant are they that they celebrate realities that don't really exist outside of their own bubble - mainstream western publications are putting out pieces about the coming "decline of religion", focusing on westerners' own apathy toward spirituality while completely ignoring the fact that, on a global scale, the faithful are coming to absolute dominance globally.

They've been totally blind to all of this, but this state of affairs cannot last for long. The consequences of these trends are going to become increasingly obvious on a global scale during the next generation or so, and I'm really going to enjoy watching westerners come to terms with this and their own role in promoting it. Things are about to get very interesting.

(09-10-2015 02:16 PM)iop890 Wrote:  Greek pirates are now robbing migrants and sinking their boats.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...anean.html

Then I would upgrade them from pirates to "corsaires" (privateers).



Strange world we live in: Buccaneers defend our borders and civilization against resolute invaders, while official European navies bring in hundreds of thousands of illegals to our shores!

They have to wear medical facemasks when dealing with these people.

Yeah, just the sort I want invading my lands.

(09-10-2015 03:06 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  The thing with SyrianGirl is that although she is attractive, intelligent, and politically aware... she is in many ways a good example of why diversity doesn't work. Because she identifies more as a Syrian than an Australian.

And in no way can it be blamed on any sort of alienation. Now obviously, she's not a threat to the Australian way of life at all. But someone more disconnected than her and less intelligent than her probably would be.

I get what you're saying, but I am not sure I buy that.

There is a huge number of middle to upper middle class Arabs and Muslims who are very secular.

I think many want to assimilate. You can usually tell these types because while they may be Muslim they tend to be about as Muslim as I, and many other Christians, are Christian. In that I go to church two or three times a year and that is pretty much that and the only reason I do that much is due to family.

These Muslims, or secular Arabs or Christian Arabs, do basically the same. They might fast, to a degree, during Rammadan and uphold a few other religious and cultural practices but they aren't bowing to mecca five times a day and they eat non-halal food.


I don't know about this particular girl, I only watched a little bit of her video, but there are a fair amount out there.

I think a good analogy for these top tier Arabs would be something like Italian Americans or maybe some Latinos.

They assimilate, as do their first and second generation kids, but they also keep some of their own culture alive, especially with older relatives in the family.

I have mentioned this on the forum a number of times, the fact is that I spend a number of years as a teen living in Egypt. I had friends who were Egyptian/Arab to one degree or another and many of them fit this bill. Especially those who weren't half-American.


Go around Cairo and you can find plenty, or at least you could it's been about a decade since I have been there, of upper middle class (which is still quite poor by American standards), Arabs from a number of countries who were obsessed with American culture.

In fact, with the more Americanized Arabs who have studied in the west they tend to identify more with western values than their culture of origins values.

At least in many ways. There are still some areas, which annoy me to no end, that they stubbornly stick onto. Namely, their idea of, "It's ok for me to date/fuck your women, but look at my sister/random girl in my hood and I'll fuck you up."

However, in my experience that is largely due to the men. The women, for one reason or another, are not only feminine and in most cases about everything that a guy like us could want but they are also very eager to escape the more patriarchal elements of their native cultures.

I found this out the last time I was in Egypt when I was dating three different Egyptian girls, at the same time, who to one degree or another were upper/upper middle class.

One was an Olympic athlete who, I shit you not, literally showed me a document saying that she was still a virgin but that she had lost her hymen while competing in Olympic horse riding competitions and it was notarized by the ministry of health and had a, probably photocopied, signature from Mubarak.

Another was 17 and finishing up her degree at AUC and wore the Hijab and she was smoking hot.

Another was in her mid 20s and desperate to find a husband before it was too late. I met her in the casino at the hotel I stayed at for awhile because she worked as a hostess. All of these women were fairly traditional but also very eager to shed large parts of their culture in return for western culture.

I really wish I had been smarter and maybe wifed one of them up. They were so feminine and submissive that it pretty much ruined me for western women. But hey, it did eventually lead me to the Red Pill.

Anyways. I think this wouldn't be anywhere near a problem if immigration was predominately women like or similar to the girl in the video. Even if they did become somewhat alienated or saw themselves as their native country first, their hypergamy would kick in and they would assimilate if for no other reason than to snag a western guy.

The real problem is that it is all military age men, who are not only not educated but also very religious and anti-west and poor.

(09-10-2015 02:16 PM)iop890 Wrote:  Greek pirates are now robbing migrants and sinking their boats.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...anean.html

Stuff like this is actually how new governments and organizations form. Once law and order go out the window, there's no more downside to being a criminal. Why play by the rules when no one else is?

Pirates like these Greeks are the future of White Europe. Guys who don't give a fuck and do whatever it takes to be strong and survive.

Finland raises taxes on wealthy to cover refugee costs:

http://news.yahoo.com/finland-raise-taxe...iness.html


This is basically one of the largest wealth transfers in history. Of course, none of these migrants are capable of producing any wealth themselves, so once these locousts are finished devouring the host we'll be deep in the Second Dark Age.

(09-10-2015 03:34 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-10-2015 02:16 PM)iop890 Wrote:  Greek pirates are now robbing migrants and sinking their boats.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...anean.html

Stuff like this is actually how new governments and organizations form. Once law and order go out the window, there's no more downside to being a criminal. Why play by the rules when no one else is?

Pirates like these Greeks are the future of White Europe. Guys who don't give a fuck and do whatever it takes to be strong and survive.

Mech is booking his flight and renting a boat as we speak.

(09-10-2015 03:42 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Finland raises taxes on wealthy to cover refugee costs:

http://news.yahoo.com/finland-raise-taxe...iness.html


This is basically one of the largest wealth transfers in history. Of course, none of these migrants are capable of producing any wealth themselves, so once these locousts are finished devouring the host we'll be deep in the Second Dark Age.

I actually believe that is mistaken. The budget was screwed up even before the refugees. They are just using the refugees as a convenient excuse.

(09-10-2015 03:42 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Finland raises taxes on wealthy to cover refugee costs:

http://news.yahoo.com/finland-raise-taxe...iness.html


This is basically one of the largest wealth transfers in history. Of course, none of these migrants are capable of producing any wealth themselves, so once these locousts are finished devouring the host we'll be deep in the Second Dark Age.

A lot of the videos and articles I have been watching and reading over the last few weeks has made me think the same. You have some German Governors talking about seizing private rental properties to house migrants. Council estates are being evacuated of poor Germans to be razed or refurbished to house Migrants. A number of countries are talking about raising taxes on productive members. Though, right now it seems mainly to be that a number of them are moving money from their Aid budgets for local provisions but that can't last. Especially considering that pilfering their Aid budgets, which are meant to help actual refugees in the camps in Turkey and Jordan, will ultimately mean that they have even more supposedly desperate people deciding to make the dangerous trek to get help that got cut off.

I am wondering how long it will be until we see mass migrations of native white Europeans. Probably heading for America or maybe South America or South East Asia.

Years ago I remember watching a MRA/MGTOW video by some English guys. They pointed out that according to the census, I think this might have been the 00 census or something like that because I think the video was from 06 because I remember it was several years old when I found it in the late 00's, there were over a million British men in the 18-30-something category that were missing.

A lot of people are talking about civil war and nationalist parties, and while I think that is possible I think it is also likely that a lot of Europeans with means will decide not to fight but instead to pick up and leave.

We can keyboard warrior all day long, and I am not saying you guys can't walk the walk...just to be clear..., but for a lot of people if the choice is between fighting and suffering the social, economic, and legal ramifications vs. simply picking up and leaving.

Well, when their gf is getting harassed or house broken into or what have you. I think many will leave. Of course that economic vacuum will probably be the catalyst necessary for the nationalists to come in and mop things up, or die trying.

Did anybody on the forum already had experiences with a refugee who had been or is a part of this contemporary invasion? They might have interesting stories about living in Islamic State (IS).

Poland is certainly one of the countries that is willing to fight against the EU's dogma of refugee quotas. I'm starting to see this video going around social media however of Polish WW2 refugees in... Iran and the middle east! Now, these refugees lived in civilian camps and I strongly doubt they received any major economic help from the government. Also, most able men were actually fighting in the resistance army against Germany and most refugees in the video are women and children. I'm not completely sure about this but I think that all the refugees returned to Poland eventually. This video will probably be used however by the media to spin the narrative against Poland i.e "you were also refugees and a middle eastern country helped you in the past so it's now your turn to do the same" etc eventhough the both situations were radically different. The video itself is quite interesting though:





EDIT: also, sorry if this has already been posted, but once again Paul Joseph Watson explains the whole thing perfectly:

(09-10-2015 04:06 PM)Troll King Wrote:  

(09-10-2015 03:42 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Finland raises taxes on wealthy to cover refugee costs:

http://news.yahoo.com/finland-raise-taxe...iness.html


This is basically one of the largest wealth transfers in history. Of course, none of these migrants are capable of producing any wealth themselves, so once these locousts are finished devouring the host we'll be deep in the Second Dark Age.

A lot of the videos and articles I have been watching and reading over the last few weeks has made me think the same. You have some German Governors talking about seizing private rental properties to house migrants. Council estates are being evacuated of poor Germans to be razed or refurbished to house Migrants. A number of countries are talking about raising taxes on productive members. Though, right now it seems mainly to be that a number of them are moving money from their Aid budgets for local provisions but that can't last. Especially considering that pilfering their Aid budgets, which are meant to help actual refugees in the camps in Turkey and Jordan, will ultimately mean that they have even more supposedly desperate people deciding to make the dangerous trek to get help that got cut off.

I am wondering how long it will be until we see mass migrations of native white Europeans. Probably heading for America or maybe South America or South East Asia.

Years ago I remember watching a MRA/MGTOW video by some English guys. They pointed out that according to the census, I think this might have been the 00 census or something like that because I think the video was from 06 because I remember it was several years old when I found it in the late 00's, there were over a million British men in the 18-30-something category that were missing.

A lot of people are talking about civil war and nationalist parties, and while I think that is possible I think it is also likely that a lot of Europeans with means will decide not to fight but instead to pick up and leave.

We can keyboard warrior all day long, and I am not saying you guys can't walk the walk...just to be clear..., but for a lot of people if the choice is between fighting and suffering the social, economic, and legal ramifications vs. simply picking up and leaving.

Well, when their gf is getting harassed or house broken into or what have you. I think many will leave. Of course that economic vacuum will probably be the catalyst necessary for the nationalists to come in and mop things up, or die trying.

Gonna be tough for these people to get into the USA when we've got an immigration halt under Trump.

Much more likely is if the refugees start causing trouble under Trump, he'll send in the US military to stabilize things. Trump will also defend countries like Hungary, Poland, etc. from the rest of the EU should they try and force them to take in refugees against their wishes. Remember, Trump's entire platform is "a country without borders isn't a country."

This video is oldie but goldie as a British journalist finds out how wonderful the new rising Muslim minority are - guess how things will be there when they are close to 40-50%?





Also the caliphate is very optimistic and has big goals:



For some reason they left out Sweden and are cutting a beeline around Poland, which is very wise by them - maybe they remember the battle of Vienna. Of course in reality even a tiny remaining minority of Europeans would completely wipe out 2 billion Muslims. In fact the Russian could do it alone when unimpeded.

Even internal Terrorist wars can be won with sufficient surveillance if at least half the population is still in power and European.

The bigger destruction will be economic though.

Before you have a nation-wide or even continent-wide mass violence against a particular group(s) there needs to be a shift in psychology. This is what Hitler did to great effect but what made Hitler and his kind so persuasive was the perfect conditions for his words to reach that much further.

I remember UKIP being a marginal party, a party which was laughed at. They should have become the second biggest party in the UK this year with more than 4 million votes but due to the blissfully ignorant voting system they made little ground. UKIP only made it that far because what they were saying, what the likes of Farage were stating became true.

Labour is going to press the self-destruct button by voting Corbyn and their Union pay masters puppet into leader of the opposition. A leader whose idea of running a country is similar to that of Sweden and Germany. "Let them come and we will welcome them".

He wants to rid the UK of trident in a time where the only assured defense of the land is a nuclear response which may not be so ridiculous with the goings-on in Syria.

I am not liking the Nazis of 1930-1940s to the anti-immigration parties of today but a perfect vacuum is being created in Europe where a lack of sense is taking hold. The powers that be are ignorant to the plight of ordinary citizens and the growing anger soon turns to hatred.

People are not born racist, it is moronic to think so but they learn to become racist and that turns into violence under conditions over the years.

What we're seeing is a critical mass being created which will gather momentum over time and will need certain factors to become worse. When a man on the street stuggles no matter what he does he will use what he has to get it; physical violence.

Who are the power brokers trying to stop Merkel from importing hundreds of thousands every year at the expense of her own people? Would any man here game a girl every friday night and then have someone else take her from you and fuck her? You'd be livid.
This behaviour is contagious and extremely dangerous when it is on a nationwide scale. Look at how many countries destabilized in the past 5 years all thanks to the violence of men wanting something.

Thankfully winter is setting in and the route through Eastern Europe will be closed unless the refugee's fancy -40 conditions and mass death. The route from Africa is only limited by the ocean and so it will continue. Next summer will be a major game changer as the number of people making the trip now shall prepare for it and wait for good conditions.

Well, it looks like we have been somewhat successful at exporting our culture to backwards ass places like Afghanistan.






All the while they are importing their backwards ways to the west.

Corbyn worries me, he's basically a male feminist. I voted UKIP but I never expected them to get in, which was a shame because it's the EU that is creating these refugee quotas that the UK wouldn't have had to deal with in the first place because his plan was to drop out of the EU.

The nuclear subs are something I'm unsure of, at the end of the day the nuclear arms race at worst case scenario will actually end up destroying the world while the immigration issue at worst case scenario will have me chanting Allauh Akubar and praying towards mecca.

"in a perfect world" etc etc...

There are certainly a lot of interesting things going on right now, something has to kick off in the next year, tensions are already extremely high.

I used to be a UKIP supporter, until I heard that various members/candidates had been suspended (or at the very least 'told off') for mentioning Islam etc.

Since, I have discovered Liberty GB. It's founder and head was arrested for quoting Churchill...yeah, you read that correctly.

His name is Paul Weston and you can often see him commenting on Disqus-enabled comment sections such as the Spectator etc. I'm thinking of joining actually.









I actually don't mind Jeremy Corbyn, he's 'old Labour' in the economic sense. I'm very sure he cares little for 'fat acceptance' etc. However, the Labour party has alligned itself with freaks and so on for too long, so they get no love from me. That said, the other night Corbyn completely schooled the other candidates on Putin, Assad etc in emphatic fashion. Andy Burnham had so much makeup on, he looked like a Ken-doll.

(09-10-2015 04:44 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  snip

Thankfully winter is setting in and the route through Eastern Europe will be closed unless the refugee's fancy -40 conditions and mass death. The route from Africa is only limited by the ocean and so it will continue. Next summer will be a major game changer as the number of people making the trip now shall prepare for it and wait for good conditions.

I've been wondering about that too. What happens with the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands?, who make it over before winter? If you look at some of the videos, including the ones I have posted today, you can see hundred if not thousands of people simply trying to walk to Germany.

It seems doubtful that Germany can find housing for that many in the next 3 months. I guess the 800k figure is for the 2016 year, but I am not sure.

Even if it 100-200k for 2015, then it seems unlikely that they will be able to give housing for that many. In some of the videos it looks like large portions, especially in Greece (what is the weather like there for the winter??? I have never been.), are living in open air camps with little more than pop up tents.

With that many refugees and a lack of heat, I could see things blowing off.