So, I have been collecting some numbers from Badoo and Tinder. I don't say anything, I just use emoji.

This one responded with emoji and then I sent her that I want her number. And now she said something like "Why should I give it to you, if you can't even type?". Can't think of anything good to send back, so little help would be appreciated.

All right fellas, help me out here please. What's a nice response to this?
I'm gonna have drinks tonight with a chick I met on a night out in the weekend.

Me: "*blabla* bar at 8:30 PM"

Her: "All right, that will be good but rather *name of another bar*. Ok? Must confess one thing. I can't remember your name.. annoying right?"


Thought of something like this...
"Bruno. It's only gonna be water for you tonight"

Any better idea?

I've been trying to get some advice regarding the framework regarding my latest round of prospects. I've got a lil' exchange going on the "Getting freshman girls in the Fall" thread. Typically, I try to closely emulate the "Day Bang" formula, but with some deviation here and there. I jus' try to set up a meet, without any jokes, stories or the like, and regulate the cycles according to the rate of reciprocation. Saladin passed me an article that really goes into some other directions, as opposed to what's outlined in either "Day Bang" or some of the material at the Chateau Heartiste. I sure wish there were just a few parameters that could be construed as etched in steel.

Been banging/seeing this girl for 2 months now. She's a fuckbuddy at this point but she's been coming onto me strong the last few weeks. Then out of no where she ignores me all weekend. Called her friday, no response. She texts me saturday, I follow up with a question and get no answer until Sunday. She hit me up twice Sunday and I have not responded. (It's monday). Basically I don't know if I should ignore her for another day or two or call her up and tell her that I don't appreciate being ignored and disrespected. Any opinions??

^Don't act butthurt or annoyed that she isn't texting you back as much as you want. If I was you, I'd put her on radio silence for a week and see what happens. Take back the control because you are feeding right into her crap.

Your text timing might also contribute to it. You don't need to respond immediately to her messages. Take your time or just ignore it for an hour.

Thanks homie. You reiterated what I was leaning towards. Haven't talked to her in a few days so I'll wait for her move and work on other prospects in the meantime.

Hey guys,

Last Friday and Saturday I did a number of approaches at the local college bar. This is pretty much my only area to do night game so I go every weekend. So, I haven't had any luck pulling directly from the bar, but I do get some numbers.

So this last weekend I got 2 numbers.
They both had very good kino I was basically holding them against me and moving them throughout the the bar. The second one I was able to make out with after about 2 minutes.

My main concern is transitioning these numbers into bangs. I know the protocol is usually logistics, but how do I start off an interaction leading to this for girls I've met at bars? Keep in mind I'm approaching sober, but I suppose I'd be willing to go out for a drink with these girls. Today is Wednesday and I haven't said anything other than texting them my name right after I got the number.

EDIT: I just read the newbie guide and got some decent answers, but if anyone has any thoughts I would appreciate it.

I'm getting a lot of "I'm sick" bullshit texts when I ask girls out. It's kinda annoying.

What do you guys reply when they say I'm sick?

(09-10-2015 11:57 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  I'm getting a lot of "I'm sick" bullshit texts when I ask girls out. It's kinda annoying.

What do you guys reply when they say I'm sick?

I don't say anything and try to bang other chicks. I try back in a week for the sick girl. If they really are still sick after a week, they probably have the plague, in which case, I probably don't want to bang them.

(09-09-2015 05:23 PM)Hygiene Wrote:  Hey guys,

Last Friday and Saturday I did a number of approaches at the local college bar. This is pretty much my only area to do night game so I go every weekend. So, I haven't had any luck pulling directly from the bar, but I do get some numbers.

So this last weekend I got 2 numbers.
They both had very good kino I was basically holding them against me and moving them throughout the the bar. The second one I was able to make out with after about 2 minutes.

My main concern is transitioning these numbers into bangs. I know the protocol is usually logistics, but how do I start off an interaction leading to this for girls I've met at bars? Keep in mind I'm approaching sober, but I suppose I'd be willing to go out for a drink with these girls. Today is Wednesday and I haven't said anything other than texting them my name right after I got the number.

EDIT: I just read the newbie guide and got some decent answers, but if anyone has any thoughts I would appreciate it.

If you are going to run night game, stop trying to get numbers and start trying to bang the same night. Trying to recreate the mood of when she first met you in her drunken party state of mind doesn't work so well the next day. Yeah you can try to meet them for a drink at a place close to where you live and then bring them home and then bang, but your success rate will be much higher when you are trying to bang them that night when they are already drunk and making out with you

Silent number-closed asian 7/8 on the train. She seemed confused for a hot second, but then smiled and put her digits and full name in my phone. How do I open this one? Callback humor/mysterious? i.e. 'hey NAME - guess who'

(09-15-2015 08:11 AM)Player_1337 Wrote:  Silent number-closed asian 7/8 on the train. She seemed confused for a hot second, but then smiled and put her digits and full name in my phone. How do I open this one? Callback humor/mysterious? i.e. 'hey NAME - guess who'

Update-

Me: Hey HERNAME - guess who
Her: Hey. Not sure
Me: hint: train
Her: Oh yeah hey I remember
Me: the train is too slow. i need a helicopter
Her: Lol that'll be nice

About an hour later she re-initiates

Her: Btw what's your name?
Me: most people just call me batman
Her: Lol okay Batman. Srsly
Me: fine. it's sexy MYNAME. save that in your phone
Her: Ok MYNAME

need help. I text this girl I met last school year in the fall. she was a freshman. partied a little bit with each other. then lost contact. this was a hail Mary text because I was bored and wanted to test out a new text style. I basically was reusing some stuff from what others posted on the "memorable text" thread.

me: rape fantasy 9/12 1:59 pm
her: I'm really confused why you sent this to me 9/12 9:16 pm
me: so what 9/13 3:46 pm
her: It's a strange thing to text someone with no context. 9/13 5:57 pm
me: *sent troll face photo* 9/14 9:22 am
me: u r a bad girl 9/14 9:24 am
me: icey blue eyes, red horns 9/14 7:02 pm *she is Ukrainian American*
her: Do I even know you? 9/15 11:53 am

I was thinking of replying with: "u text strangers?" on Thursday.

I did send her a fb message 1 week before this text exchange. she said it took her a bit to remember who I was. it was a short polite wassup/how have you been message.

heartiste reply to this super shit test: You will.

(09-15-2015 02:41 PM)SanFranciscoMack Wrote:  need help. I text this girl I met last school year in the fall. she was a freshman. partied a little bit with each other. then lost contact. this was a hail Mary text because I was bored and wanted to test out a new text style. I basically was reusing some stuff from what others posted on the "memorable text" thread.

me: rape fantasy 9/12 1:59 pm
her: I'm really confused why you sent this to me 9/12 9:16 pm
me: so what 9/13 3:46 pm
her: It's a strange thing to text someone with no context. 9/13 5:57 pm
me: *sent troll face photo* 9/14 9:22 am
me: u r a bad girl 9/14 9:24 am
me: icey blue eyes, red horns 9/14 7:02 pm *she is Ukrainian American*
her: Do I even know you? 9/15 11:53 am

I was thinking of replying with: "u text strangers?" on Thursday.

I did send her a fb message 1 week before this text exchange. she said it took her a bit to remember who I was. it was a short polite wassup/how have you been message.

You're already dead in the water bro, move on to the next. I don't think there's any saving this.

I don't think I would ever randomly text a chick "rape fantasy", I can't see how you were expecting a positive response to that. Sounds like you barely know this chick so now she probably just thinks you're a creep.

(09-15-2015 01:14 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  Update-

Me: Hey HERNAME - guess who
Her: Hey. Not sure
Me: hint: train
Her: Oh yeah hey I remember
Me: the train is too slow. i need a helicopter
Her: Lol that'll be nice

About an hour later she re-initiates

Her: Btw what's your name?
Me: most people just call me batman
Her: Lol okay Batman. Srsly
Me: fine. it's sexy MYNAME. save that in your phone
Her: Ok MYNAME

She's interested. Get her qualifying. Ask her if she drinks, ask her if she does something you enjoy that's fun, then question her tastes/knowledge playfully. You don't know anything about her, see what she's like and if she seems warm/receptive, setup a date so you can get her truly open to you escalating things.

(09-15-2015 02:41 PM)SanFranciscoMack Wrote:  need help. I text this girl I met last school year in the fall. she was a freshman. partied a little bit with each other. then lost contact. this was a hail Mary text because I was bored and wanted to test out a new text style. I basically was reusing some stuff from what others posted on the "memorable text" thread.

The text above that's bolded. I'm making a reasonable assumption that you didn't get anywhere:

Hail Mary is when you are actually on the field and you make a low percentage play to try to win the game.

You weren't even in the game, much less on the field or even on the sidelines.

In this analogy there are shitloads of people that witnessed the game. These are all the people she partied with. You are one of those people, but unless you actually had any real flirtation or had some actual physical contact/escalation/banging, you are barely in this girl's world.

You can't bring up rape fantasies for a girl that barely remembers you because she never even had attraction to you in the first place.

Next time joking around with her and trying to get her flirting with you would be the hail mary. Not stating "rape fantasy" basically out of nowhere.

thanks for the input. I stick with roosh's text guide on new leads. but I like to switch it up on girls that i have little chance with. might get a lay out of it. but I'll tone it down and not use rape fantasy anymore lol

(09-10-2015 11:57 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  I'm getting a lot of "I'm sick" bullshit texts when I ask girls out. It's kinda annoying.

What do you guys reply when they say I'm sick?

tell you what. when you're feeling healthier and friskier you let me know.

need me to come over and make it better?

I have a new chick on the ropes. Feel like I can really exploit this situation (dread game- but not enough investment?). We had great push-pull banter for about a week and were supposed to meet tonight. On Sunday she said she'd check to see if there was a work conflict. No communication from either party until I decided to troll her tonight.

Me: hey flaky
Her: Hey sorry about that I meant to text you today but work got crazy. Ended up having my work dinner. Raincheck?

(~20 mins later)
Me: i say you deliver that application
(this is an inside joke, also hinting at her coming over fresh direct)

Here: Haha. Nah I'll let you take me for for a drink still ; )
Me: nah not for flakes
(maintaining frame and staying resilient)

Her: That's a shame
(few mins later)
Her: Unfortunate that we won't be meeting then I guess
(few mins later)
Her: Too bad NICKNAME you didn't seem so bad

(An hour passes)
Her: Jk but when are you free next?

(09-15-2015 09:36 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  I have a new chick on the ropes. Feel like I can really exploit this situation (dread game- but not enough investment?). We had great push-pull banter for about a week and were supposed to meet tonight. On Sunday she said she'd check to see if there was a work conflict. No communication from either party until I decided to troll her tonight.

Me: hey flaky
Her: Hey sorry about that I meant to text you today but work got crazy. Ended up having my work dinner. Raincheck?

(~20 mins later)
Me: i say you deliver that application
(this is an inside joke, also hinting at her coming over fresh direct)

Here: Haha. Nah I'll let you take me for for a drink still ; )
Me: nah not for flakes
(maintaining frame and staying resilient)

Her: That's a shame
(few mins later)
Her: Unfortunate that we won't be meeting then I guess
(few mins later)
Her: Too bad NICKNAME you didn't seem so bad

(An hour passes)
Her: Jk but when are you free next?

You: Not sure, I'll check to see if there's a work conflict.

But, well played, well played.

Number closed a girl on the subway. I actually called her to set up a date and arranged for Sunday at 2:00 but something came up so I texted her to reschedule.

Me at 3:15:can you manage Saturday at 3:15 same place

Her at 3:17:sorry, no. I have to walk my sheep and go to work.

Me at 3:21: you walk your sheep on Monday

Her 3:27 picture of cute lamb

I have not text her back anyone delt with anything like this?

(09-16-2015 02:52 PM)Loki Bachus Wrote:  Number closed a girl on the subway. I actually called her to set up a date and arranged for Sunday at 2:00 but something came up so I texted her to reschedule.

Me at 3:15:can you manage Saturday at 3:15 same place

Her at 3:17:sorry, no. I have to walk my sheep and go to work.

Me at 3:21: you walk your sheep on Monday

Her 3:27 picture of cute lamb

I have not text her back anyone delt with anything like this?

A picture of some cooked lamb chops maybe?

If it was me I'd probably just suggest another time, I pretty much just stick to logistics with texting though. Bitches are too flakey to spend to much time thinking up clever responses for someone I might never meet

Apparently sheep as pets are a real thing

http://www.sheep101.info/pets.html

(09-16-2015 02:52 PM)Loki Bachus Wrote:  Number closed a girl on the subway. I actually called her to set up a date and arranged for Sunday at 2:00 but something came up so I texted her to reschedule.

Me at 3:15:can you manage Saturday at 3:15 same place

Her at 3:17:sorry, no. I have to walk my sheep and go to work.

Me at 3:21: you walk your sheep on Monday

Her 3:27 picture of cute lamb

I have not text her back anyone delt with anything like this?

No, but sounds like something a chick would do for attention. I'm assuming that the pics of her untrained little dog weren't getting enough likes so she decided to step up her pet attention game and go with a sheep.

Red flag for me, but wouldn't Not Bang because of the sheep alone. I'd just ignore the comment and try for a reschedule another time.

(09-16-2015 01:20 AM)WanderingMan Wrote:  You: Not sure, I'll check to see if there's a work conflict.

But, well played, well played.

I disagree on the response. I think OP should wait to respond, but no reason to delay it with a snarky response.

You could go straight logistics (offer her a time or two you'll be free) or you could couple it with a request. If you think you can get her to go fresh direct then tell her to bring over a couple movies she likes, or a bottle of wine, or something good as a mixer. If you're meeting for a drink, tell her the first round is on her but imply you'll get the second if it goes well, or you could request she wear a skirt/heels, etc...

Ultimately, you maintained frame well, continue it.

(09-16-2015 02:52 PM)Loki Bachus Wrote:  Number closed a girl on the subway. I actually called her to set up a date and arranged for Sunday at 2:00 but something came up so I texted her to reschedule.

Me at 3:15:can you manage Saturday at 3:15 same place

Her at 3:17:sorry, no. I have to walk my sheep and go to work.

Me at 3:21: you walk your sheep on Monday

Her 3:27 picture of cute lamb

I have not text her back anyone delt with anything like this?

I don't think the sheep is that important. She said she had to go to work and she said sorry in the message as well. However, your response was a bit confusing and she only responded with a picture of a sheep. Since she didn't offer a reschedule it's likely gonna be a dead lead, but you did talk to her on the phone once already so I would try to get her on the phone for the reschedule since you're not really getting anywhere on text.

(09-16-2015 05:13 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 01:20 AM)WanderingMan Wrote:  You: Not sure, I'll check to see if there's a work conflict.

I disagree on the response. I think OP should wait to respond, but no reason to delay it with a snarky response.

Well, that response is an option, not sure if it's the best one.

Breaking it down: True it is 'snarky', and it could be received in a few different ways, one of them as him being butt hurt - which would be bad. But, as long as it comes from a frame, versus a frame, I feel it would be all right, IMO. I'd throw it out there to see how she responds - a test for her, if you will. A "lol, okay you win, lets meet, tell me where and when" kind of thing, would be a good response on her part, obviously. He's built and kept frame up to this point. And a subtle overt: I'm on to your silly little game. Let's her know he's having fun toying with her, like she tried with him, and succeeded with many other guys. It also lets her know, that for him, at this point, the outcome is irrelevant. Which, in itself, will be another builder of attraction.

(09-16-2015 01:20 AM)WanderingMan Wrote:  

(09-15-2015 09:36 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  I have a new chick on the ropes. Feel like I can really exploit this situation (dread game- but not enough investment?). We had great push-pull banter for about a week and were supposed to meet tonight. On Sunday she said she'd check to see if there was a work conflict. No communication from either party until I decided to troll her tonight.

Me: hey flaky
Her: Hey sorry about that I meant to text you today but work got crazy. Ended up having my work dinner. Raincheck?

(~20 mins later)
Me: i say you deliver that application
(this is an inside joke, also hinting at her coming over fresh direct)

Here: Haha. Nah I'll let you take me for for a drink still ; )
Me: nah not for flakes
(maintaining frame and staying resilient)

Her: That's a shame
(few mins later)
Her: Unfortunate that we won't be meeting then I guess
(few mins later)
Her: Too bad NICKNAME you didn't seem so bad

(An hour passes)
Her: Jk but when are you free next?

You: Not sure, I'll check to see if there's a work conflict.

But, well played, well played.

Waited until the following night and sent her 'Not sure, I'll check to see if there's a work conflict.'

Her response: Mm sarcasm?