Just concluded a date with a 27 year old chick in Saigon. Met her in front of my place and she drove us to my first venue, a nice JP cafe for matcha drinks. She spoke zero English, but had a translation function on her ipad.

I brought the good game for such constraints. Sexualization. Kino. All that good stuff plus some comfort. I didn't feel too self conscious here because it was a small venue so I definitely pushed it and thought I was getting good compliance and a good vibe.

I suggested that we return to my place to see "movies after food." She agreed and we went to a pho place. Straightforward. We went back to my apartment with very few issues.

When she walks in my door, she asks me via her ipad "Do you see me as friend? I don't like sex." Also asks me my rent amount. The fuck?

I agree and amplify by saying "you think about sex already? Silly girl." She laughed and I told her to take off her shoes. Says her neck hurts so I start the massage. I put on the Disney channel and she starts fiddling with her ipad. She's sitting at the edge of my bed. I manage to pull her closer to my pillows and go go for the kiss. Resistance.

I step back a tiny bit and take off her glasses and gave her mine. Went in for the kiss again. Resistance. She's against the wall and I uncross her legs. She scowls but complies. I realize by now that she's heavy as fuck. I try to straighten her legs and she slides under me. Says she doesn't like my actions and gave me some excuse about her sister not having the key to her house. I tell her to stay for ten minutes and try escalating again. She was not having it. She just left.

She says she wants to meet up again, which I might be open to. I've never encountered resistance like this. Stone cold. Maybe I should chill for longer intervals before escalating .Can anyone chime in? Maybe first date bangs are just this uncommon here.

Reading this I realize just how close I could've been banging this one chick. I think you did everything right and she knows your intentions. Perhaps she may be a bit more open to it on the next meet. Also see if you can do something to get her aroused. Your date was pretty chill (which might go over well with American chicks) but it sounds like this girl needed a little more.

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What's the translation app? I may use it to text chicks on wechat.

1 thing that's probably the best side-course of game, is that even when you're on a short dry spell, (2 weeks since my last lay), years of work often continue to give unexpectedly.

Sticking to my laurels: I just lowered a non-performer to last chance status, blew off a closet feminist attitude wench who came onto me, then copped a tude (albeit hot), and had another feed me a line about camping with her family after telling me she wanted to see me soon for a "man's touch," presuming we'd make it this weekend since we both have kids, so only every other weekend is possible and haven't fucked her in over a month (camping proof pic included) << not buying it.

This would have left me fuck-free, and rolling solo to game this weekend, with a giant zit on my nose... not the hidable type. Poof, outta blue an old plate hits me up that I'll bang out raw all night. Maybe I'll blast some zit puss on her. The great part is this old plate knows I've got a rotation and it kills her, so the very thing I was whittling down, to refine for quality, she assumes is in full force, and thus attracts her to me for another plowing. Ahh the spoils.

(08-14-2015 08:15 PM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  Reading this I realize just how close I could've been banging this one chick. I think you did everything right and she knows your intentions. Perhaps she may be a bit more open to it on the next meet. Also see if you can do something to get her aroused. Your date was pretty chill (which might go over well with American chicks) but it sounds like this girl needed a little more.

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What's the translation app? I may use it to text chicks on wechat.

Google Translate. It was so seamless. I'd say shit like "Show me your jewelry." And she'd giggle and wiggle her fingers and rub her neck, indicating she had none. It was magical. I think I ignore translation and relied more on body language during the close, which is why my game probably faltered. Or maybe more comfort was needed.

Two electronic devices side by side and showing my travel photos with descriptions.

All this time I thought it was only web based, haha. Downloading it now.

Got another pull today. Had her leave just now.

Got her back to the house and her clothes off within a few minutes. I was not happy with what I saw. She was a virgin who put up weak resistance, but I just couldn't complete it. It was bad.

Its too bad because she's a fun girl. I need to take a break. God help me.

Hey y'all, its been a while since I have posted here or even visited RVF, but here is my log so far for the weekend:

I'm 24, been talking to a 30 year old on tinder. I try to avoid using tinder, not only because I'm better at real life old school game, but tinder is full of attention-seekers. Her profile read, "No hook-ups," but I disregarded because she is super hot. I live in a large city and met her at a bar by her place. (logistics weren't good for my place) She shows up in a short, skin-tight, red dress. Had a few beers, no food, she was loving it. Starts complaining about how cold she was, and at this point if I had another beer I would not have been able to drive home. (I live about 40 mins away, but where we met was nearby my office) I tell her this and she acknowledges and suggests we go to another bar or just walk around. As soon as we get outside she asks if I want to go to her place about two mins down the road. Hell yeah I do. Get to her place, start drinking and smoking, I grab her on the porch and start putting on a show for the neighbors. I say let's go inside, she says we can't have sex. Yeah, ok. She's got a brand new memory foam mattress on the floor of her living room that she had just unwrapped earlier that day. My dick was in her roughly 90 seconds later and I broke that new mattress of hers in. Fucked her for a while but couldn't finish, ended up leaving, another spinning plate. [Edit: She has a sexy roommate that she said may be down for a threesome, I'll update if it happens.]

Tonight I left my office very late, hit up a buddy from work and he is out and about in a nice area of town with a buddy and a couple girls and convinces me to come out. I show up at an upscale bar, good scene, wouldn't mind going stag to game one night. He introduces me to a couple girls that he is with, but he is already really drunk. I talk to the girls for a bit, he and I go to the bar to get a beer and his drunk ass re-introduces me to these girls. They don't even realize they just met me five mins before, don't know how drunk they are. Told them they are either being sarcastic or have the memory span of a fucking goldfish and dipped the fuck out. Tomorrow I have a buddy coming over to go to the pool, we're gonna see about getting on some country club cougars.

(08-15-2015 11:39 PM)Sleazy Wrote:  I'm 24, been talking to a 30 year old on tinder. I try to avoid using tinder, not only because I'm better at real life old school game, but tinder is full of attention-seekers. Her profile read, "No hook-ups," but I disregarded because she is super hot.

I don't know why, but these girls are by far the easiest according to my experience.

I have no clue why it is that way, but that's just the way it seems to work.

Whenever I see a "no hook-ups", I basically know that I am going to bang that girls because "no" means "yes" in this case. Gotta love it.

Just like that girl the other night who I met on Tinder and had that same text in her profile. After we had some drinks she was like "I am coming with you, but we will NOT have sex". Yeah, whatever. 15 minutes later she could not recall having said that.

(08-16-2015 03:53 AM)PBX Wrote:  

(08-15-2015 11:39 PM)Sleazy Wrote:  I'm 24, been talking to a 30 year old on tinder. I try to avoid using tinder, not only because I'm better at real life old school game, but tinder is full of attention-seekers. Her profile read, "No hook-ups," but I disregarded because she is super hot.

I don't know why, but these girls are by far the easiest according to my experience.

I have no clue why it is that way, but that's just the way it seems to work.

Whenever I see a "no hook-ups", I basically know that I am going to bang that girls because "no" means "yes" in this case. Gotta love it.

Just like that girl the other night who I met on Tinder and had that same text in her profile. After we had some drinks she was like "I am coming with you, but we will NOT have sex". Yeah, whatever. 15 minutes later she could not recall having said that.

I guess they say it because they think they don't look like whores and it will make betas coddle them if they get a chance to take them out.

That phrase is by far the most overused by women right before you cross the goal line

2 nights ago, I was told the exact same thing and when I coyingly asked her to clarify she mustered up her most convincing (to her) Screwdriver induced front and blurted out "I'm NOT fucking you tonight". She was only expecting a reaction, and when I didn't flinch she was out of bullets.

Camera pans to the Batcave where sex ensues...

^^^^^^
After the deed is done they say

"I don't usually do this"

as they are pulling their panties up. It's like they all read from the same "I'm not a hoe" playbook.

Tried to bang a girl at a festival over the weekend after eating some potent mushrooms and couldn't stay hard for more than a couple minutes. Even while it lasted it felt more out of reflex than actual arousal. Weird feeling. On a more positive note I think I met god, if only I could remember what he said...

Just had a good bang session with a plate who had dropped off but came back. She is super shy and reserved in public but loves it rough in the bedroom and I had forgotten how tight her body is.
Gives a great sloppy BJ as well. She must have been missing it because she was super wet before I even touched her, came super quick and same deal for round 2. Glad she's back on the roster.

Been putting off this question for way too long primarily because I think the negative feedback are just BS nonesense.

While interacting with a girl, should you respect her personal space?

Since my redpill day it has always been "no". When I approach or talk to a girl, I take up a lot of space and Im literally right next to her. I never face her with my entire body however, always facing at an angle so as not to be "in her face" but always in her "personal space".

A lot of girls tell me thats invasive, some guys too. But I treat it like "You have to be nice to girls" kind of feedback. I asked my main and she said when I first approached her she found it weird I was talking so close to her, but hey that worked.

Then again Im asking myself whether or not Im psyching some girls out by being too "invasive" The fuck that means anyway? Im not gonna scream at a girl over 2 feet away because she is uncomfortable being in the presence of a man.

What do you guys think?

(08-17-2015 09:59 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Been putting off this question for way too long primarily because I think the negative feedback are just BS nonesense.

While interacting with a girl, should you respect her personal space?

Since my redpill day it has always been "no". When I approach or talk to a girl, I take up a lot of space and Im literally right next to her. I never face her with my entire body however, always facing at an angle so as not to be "in her face" but always in her "personal space".

A lot of girls tell me thats invasive, some guys too. But I treat it like "You have to be nice to girls" kind of feedback. I asked my main and she said when I first approached her she found it weird I was talking so close to her, but hey that worked.

Then again Im asking myself whether or not Im psyching some girls out by being too "invasive" The fuck that means anyway? Im not gonna scream at a girl over 2 feet away because she is uncomfortable being in the presence of a man.

What do you guys think?

When you say guys tell you this too, do you mean regarding your interactions with them or are they commenting on those with women?

(08-17-2015 10:06 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  When you say guys tell you this too, do you mean regarding your interactions with them or are they commenting on those with women?

With women. They are saying things like "you are always standing too close to that girls". Sometimes they would come over and separate us. Extremely beta behaviors so I didnt take them seriously.

(08-17-2015 09:59 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Been putting off this question for way too long primarily because I think the negative feedback are just BS nonesense.

While interacting with a girl, should you respect her personal space?

Since my redpill day it has always been "no". When I approach or talk to a girl, I take up a lot of space and Im literally right next to her. I never face her with my entire body however, always facing at an angle so as not to be "in her face" but always in her "personal space".

A lot of girls tell me thats invasive, some guys too. But I treat it like "You have to be nice to girls" kind of feedback. I asked my main and she said when I first approached her she found it weird I was talking so close to her, but hey that worked.

Then again Im asking myself whether or not Im psyching some girls out by being too "invasive" The fuck that means anyway? Im not gonna scream at a girl over 2 feet away because she is uncomfortable being in the presence of a man.

What do you guys think?

I think it's a simple matter of social calibration. It's good that your body language is strong and you're taking up space but you need to strike a balance of allowing those around you to feel comfortable in the first few minutes. As you're talking with a woman and the attraction is building by all means move in closer.

Thoughts on pinging girls to "stay on their radar" when they're on vacation?

I'm talking about girls where you've been on one or two dates but haven't got the bang yet. Then they go on vacation. Or maybe girls you've been text conversing with but haven't banged.

(08-17-2015 11:55 AM)robreke Wrote:  Thoughts on pinging girls to "stay on their radar" when they're on vacation?

I'm talking about girls where you've been on one or two dates but haven't got the bang yet. Then they go on vacation. Or maybe girls you've been text conversing with but haven't banged.

This is something I want to work on. How do I keep the fires going if I'm out of town? If it's a girl I've already banged it's a non issue. They'll text me and we'll chat and then move on. Business as usual.

If it's a girl I haven't banged I stick to "less is more" thinking and then play up my trip when I get back. "I had a long flight let's unwind at xyz bar."

Weekend write up.

Pretty chilled, just met up with my main. She tried learning how to ride me (read: she was a virgin until I defiled her) It wasn't great... I let my measured disappointment seep through to her. Dread game is the one.

The game gods have smiled on me. Pretty much dropped an big booty internet prospect right on my door step. I expect the bang this month sometime.

Did a lil' night game, this shit isn't for me anymore. Day game for life.

I need a harem though, oneitis is rearing it's ugly head.

A fun weekend for once:

Friday had an enjoyable night with my main - headed to a carnival, goddamn those things are EXPENSIVE. A few friends we were with haven't seen me in awhile, said I'm looking bigger, always a nice boost to the ego.

Saturday worked a bit, saw an old friend, he also mentioned I looked bigger, this dude followed his girl everywhere she moved to, he ended up being a fat lazy beta dude, she dumped him and he was torn for over 2 years. Good news is he's sacked up, got his life together and is losing weight, I'm glad he is.

I ended up crashing my boys high school reunion, needless to say it ended up....crazy. One fat girl (she has gastric bypas) she lost a ton of weight was hitting on me and kept kissing my cheeks, I cut her off when I turned around. She's got a husband, I didn't know if he was around and didn't need the drama. She then leaned in for a kiss, I turned my shoulder she tried grabbing it, slipped and fell right on her fat ass from the chair. Ambulance wheeled her drunk ass out.

Then there was cute 8 blondie who was definitely all over the place, we bounced from the venue and headed to a country saloon, needless to say we were sharpest guys at the saloon. The blondie ended up flashing her tits, she even had pasties on. Immediately we went into game mode, I start grabbing titties and hair, she didn't like that one bit, she also had her claws into this dude we were with, game over.

This is where things got super fuzzy, apparently I pulled some 6.5 brunnettes number, we chatted the next day, and she was cute looking.
I swear to god I game better when I'm drunk and I don't know what's going on. She mentioned her dad was in her late 70's when we texted the next morning - I have a feeling she's in her late 30's of all things.

Oh well, such is life, and Sunday - for once in a very long time, I didn't do a goddamn thing.

(08-17-2015 01:14 PM)redbeard Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 11:55 AM)robreke Wrote:  Thoughts on pinging girls to "stay on their radar" when they're on vacation?

I'm talking about girls where you've been on one or two dates but haven't got the bang yet. Then they go on vacation. Or maybe girls you've been text conversing with but haven't banged.

This is something I want to work on. How do I keep the fires going if I'm out of town? If it's a girl I've already banged it's a non issue. They'll text me and we'll chat and then move on. Business as usual.

If it's a girl I haven't banged I stick to "less is more" thinking and then play up my trip when I get back. "I had a long flight let's unwind at xyz bar."

I agree that the "less is more" thinking is best if you're the one who's out of town and doing the traveling.

I also like the line about "I had a long flight let's unwind" or if it's the next day something like "I had a crazy trip...need to unwind. Join me at xyz"

There would be some mystery there built up from your travels and she's interested in hearing what the traveler from afar has been up to.

Another effective thing I've done when I've traveled is send a girl a pic text. Either no words or just a short witty quip about the pic with a random picture of something amazing I may be seeing on my travels or an 'inside joke' thing.

A girl and I once had an inside joke about how she could dance on a bar and work for Coyote Ugly so, I sent her a pic of the street view of a local Coyote Ugly in a big city I was visiting. It worked good.

But when she's the one who's gone out of town it's a different dynamic. We all know how travel does weird things to a girl's attraction for you/thoughts of you,etc. It's like the 'trauma' of their vacation and traveling often makes them not sure of you anymore.

Maybe a ping text is warranted so you stay on her radar as she wanders around on vacation?

I probably wouldn't ping if I was the one on vacation, but what about if she's the one doing the traveling.

(08-17-2015 04:15 PM)robreke Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 01:14 PM)redbeard Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 11:55 AM)robreke Wrote:  Thoughts on pinging girls to "stay on their radar" when they're on vacation?

I'm talking about girls where you've been on one or two dates but haven't got the bang yet. Then they go on vacation. Or maybe girls you've been text conversing with but haven't banged.

This is something I want to work on. How do I keep the fires going if I'm out of town? If it's a girl I've already banged it's a non issue. They'll text me and we'll chat and then move on. Business as usual.

If it's a girl I haven't banged I stick to "less is more" thinking and then play up my trip when I get back. "I had a long flight let's unwind at xyz bar."

I agree that the "less is more" thinking is best if you're the one who's out of town and doing the traveling.

I also like the line about "I had a long flight let's unwind" or if it's the next day something like "I had a crazy trip...need to unwind. Join me at xyz"

There would be some mystery there built up from your travels and she's interested in hearing what the traveler from afar has been up to.

Another effective thing I've done when I've traveled is send a girl a pic text. Either no words or just a short witty quip about the pic with a random picture of something amazing I may be seeing on my travels or an 'inside joke' thing.

A girl and I once had an inside joke about how she could dance on a bar and work for Coyote Ugly so, I sent her a pic of the street view of a local Coyote Ugly in a big city I was visiting. It worked good.

But when she's the one who's gone out of town it's a different dynamic. We all know how travel does weird things to a girl's attraction for you/thoughts of you,etc. It's like the 'trauma' of their vacation and traveling often makes them not sure of you anymore.

Maybe a ping text is warranted so you stay on her radar as she wanders around on vacation?

I probably wouldn't ping if I was the one on vacation, but what about if she's the one doing the traveling.

So we've determined that the best game for when we are traveling is to:

-Keep it less is more
-Send a quick ping/picture that is relevant to something y'all talked about, or something cool you're doing.

Maybe it's the same for when she's out of town.

-If you don't text much, she'll assume that you have other bitches in your main city and will be staying busy.
-If you shoot her a text/picture about something related to the city, you can play up the "missing out" angle, and that you're unimpressed by her vacation. Most betas would be "I'm so jealous of your vacation!" Bitch please.

Combining these two what if you "forget" that she's out of town and ask her to hang out? This will make her miss you, the city, and you can play the "your loss" angle.

I'm watching my married ex-plate face the grim realization that she's being unceremoniously tossed from the carousel and she might have to *gasp* fuck her husband more often.

My sex life, man...

(08-17-2015 05:46 PM)redbeard Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 04:15 PM)robreke Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 01:14 PM)redbeard Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 11:55 AM)robreke Wrote:  Thoughts on pinging girls to "stay on their radar" when they're on vacation?

I'm talking about girls where you've been on one or two dates but haven't got the bang yet. Then they go on vacation. Or maybe girls you've been text conversing with but haven't banged.

This is something I want to work on. How do I keep the fires going if I'm out of town? If it's a girl I've already banged it's a non issue. They'll text me and we'll chat and then move on. Business as usual.

If it's a girl I haven't banged I stick to "less is more" thinking and then play up my trip when I get back. "I had a long flight let's unwind at xyz bar."

I agree that the "less is more" thinking is best if you're the one who's out of town and doing the traveling.

I also like the line about "I had a long flight let's unwind" or if it's the next day something like "I had a crazy trip...need to unwind. Join me at xyz"

There would be some mystery there built up from your travels and she's interested in hearing what the traveler from afar has been up to.

Another effective thing I've done when I've traveled is send a girl a pic text. Either no words or just a short witty quip about the pic with a random picture of something amazing I may be seeing on my travels or an 'inside joke' thing.

A girl and I once had an inside joke about how she could dance on a bar and work for Coyote Ugly so, I sent her a pic of the street view of a local Coyote Ugly in a big city I was visiting. It worked good.

But when she's the one who's gone out of town it's a different dynamic. We all know how travel does weird things to a girl's attraction for you/thoughts of you,etc. It's like the 'trauma' of their vacation and traveling often makes them not sure of you anymore.

Maybe a ping text is warranted so you stay on her radar as she wanders around on vacation?

I probably wouldn't ping if I was the one on vacation, but what about if she's the one doing the traveling.

So we've determined that the best game for when we are traveling is to:

-Keep it less is more
-Send a quick ping/picture that is relevant to something y'all talked about, or something cool you're doing.

Maybe it's the same for when she's out of town.

-If you don't text much, she'll assume that you have other bitches in your main city and will be staying busy.
-If you shoot her a text/picture about something related to the city, you can play up the "missing out" angle, and that you're unimpressed by her vacation. Most betas would be "I'm so jealous of your vacation!" Bitch please.

Combining these two what if you "forget" that she's out of town and ask her to hang out? This will make her miss you, the city, and you can play the "your loss" angle.