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That actually would be interesting to find out what, from neurobiological point view, happens with the so-called "decreased anxiety" (or is it anxiety actually? What it actually is? As far as I can tell, there is no nice little compartment in the brain called "anxiety"). I'll try to investigate it further and perhaps make a thread on that. Saying we get "habituated" or "desensitized", to user behaviouristic psychology parlance, doesn't solve anything, just more fancy words. On a first pass, I'd say that adrenline and realated neurotransmitters' temporary profile changes a lot.

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As I strolled across the parking lot of the elementary school I was working at the other day, I see this girl amongst the crowd of parents gettin' their kids from summer school. She looked very young, with hair down to her ass, wearing a Hawaiian-looking type of dress, and is toting along a little one. She looked to be of a completely different ethnicity as the kid, so I figured on investigating.

I sat down on a bench a few feet across from another one that she had just sat on. Looking her over for a few minutes as she diddled with her phone, I pondered as to her ethnicity. Maybe a Hawaiian or Pacific Islander, hence the zany dress. She coulda passed for your typical hoola-girl.

I almost back down as she gets up to walk on, but I say out to her "I like your dress. Where'd you get it?"

She stops and turns to me, enthusiastically telling me about it, to which I respond how it looks very exotic. This was followed by her launching into a monologue of how she was getting ready for a trip to Switzerland - which she hoped would prove to be some sort of an escape from her latest and greatest drama she freely disclosed to me . . .

"I know this is kind of personal, but my wedding was called off."

She also asked my age, and so my 34 was up against her 21.

"Well, look at all the additional experience I can offer you."
Turned out that the little white girl she was dropping off was the daughter of one of her college professors - her "mentor" as she put it, who prompted her to take the switz trip. I'm sure she'll quickly forget about whoever it was she almost married.
This exchange went on for only a few minutes, and since logistics was very narrow, coupled with how she so quickly divulged such material, I went for the number, and she rather happily entered it into my phone.

"Be sure to save it properly there, or this'll be the end of it."

I passed alongside her once more a few minutes later to offer a passing quip . . .

"You're too young to get married anyway. We both are."

I txted her later that day and never heard shit. Pssssshh.
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(07-21-2015 12:28 AM)Mess O. Wrote:  How would you approach . . .
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"Excuse me . . . is that a good, umm, phone?

If saw that I'd go with this

Me "Hey youre very exotic looking. Do you have any Cuban in you?"

Her most likely "Uh..no"

Me "Well then... would you like some?"

I'm Cuban

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Decided to split my journal entry into two parts.

I spent the most of my Friday staring at a bunch of foreign code at my screen, challenging my brain to finish it all before getting any sleep. I didn't sleep till 10am which only turned into cat naps after running into a few chores around the house. It didn't feel like an extraordinary Saturday, but one that would be all too familiar.

The plan was to join my good friend for Portuguese lessons and attend a nice frozen treat festivals at one of the popular parks downtown. He came through around 4 and we were off to the park. Things started to look up as there were so many out for the festival: families, couples, singles, groups, etc. There were enough women to go around. so we thought.

My buddy, *we'll call him Rab*, hadn't eaten so we spent a good amount of time looking for good food deals on the truck vendors posted in the park. My first approach would come when I saw an Asian 6 near a sign. She was sitting on the grass on her smart phone, probably on tinder or randomly texting. I decide to open her.

Approach #1:Asian 6

While Rab was hungry for good eats and treats, I wanted to get in some approaching and often pointed out the girls of interest to get his opinion. He's one of the chillest players I know and has his head on straight. If I need some sense talked into me, he's one of the guys to do it. He gives the go-ahead to approach the Asian girl just across from me.

I have my camera, hanging from neck, as a possible conversation starter. I open her about the ice cream and she mentions a vendor behind me. I change threads, asking about the vendor she works for and she DOESN'T know the name but points me in the direction of where she works. She begins to get up as we were half seated, half squatting. I go to ask her name and she's almost instantly on a call and walks off.

My belief is that she had one of those fake call apps or perhaps she called someone. Doesn't matter: NEXT!

Approach #2:Asian 7

Rab reminds me not to get discouraged from the rejections and to keep moving forward. Shotgun's Fear Thread sticks in my mind and would be a constant reminder of anti-outcome dependency. I see a cute asian girl in white short shorts, tall (5.6/5.7) and blue halter top.

Me: Hey, are you in the line for XX?
her: Yea (looking around/not exactly focused or engaging).

Rab mentions her body language and her reaction to my opener. This one dies quick. NEXT!

Approach #3:2 Set: 2 Blondes

Me and my wing have dropped out of the long as line for ice cream and walk around to scope for other prospects. We walk around a bit checking the scene when we come across two blondes with ice cream cones. He opens the set.

Rab: Hey, where did you guys get those?! (enthusiastic opener, lot of character)

They appear receptive at first.

Blonde1: Over there at that BXX! Its really good.
Me: Good deals?
Blonde2: Really good. You guys should check it out, its just a short walk.

While this was true, the goal was really to just talk to them. Indirect approaches..., they weren't really interested in continuing the convo so we ejected and made moves to another area of the park. We discussed red-pill things, recognizing body language, and it being an important attribute in understanding women and how to game them.

I take random pictures of some different spots in the park with different tents and things for the kids setup. We find a patch of grass to chill on while we scope an inflated obstacle course. He brought up that it wasn't the best day to be doing day approaches as most women were in groups and with families, it could also prove difficult to distinguish teens from the adults (very:true).

As he says this, a group of three girls walk over and before they pass us, he gives me a heads up. "Damn she's fine, I'm going to talk to her". I agree that he should and he gives me the gist for using the camera to help with the approach. He convinces her to prose for a few pictures (not the best quality, could have used better lighting). I snap away and her body language says it all.

She makes an excuse to leave with her friends (Who I assume would have waited, seeing as they didn't cockblock). She leaves, we eject from the park and make the walk to a food place that had been closed. From there we made our way back to parking where he tried running game on the booth attendant who wasn't having it. She was on the phone for quite a while.
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I've decided to record my approaches when possible from here on. I still keep my journal but going over the audio and adding annotations seems an even better way to learn. This was the one I did yesterday:



I felt a bit rusty. It's been so hot here that I haven't found a ton of girls, or I've just not been as enthusiastic about what I've seen lately. Think I might do a video on congruence when approaching.

Some things I noted was that my overall frame and body language was good and dynamic, but I really didn't like my vocal tones here, they felt very flat. I think that might be a problem with my voice in general.

I'm usually far more direct, so this was not my typical approach and far from my best game. I seemed to be doing better toward the end, but the girl mentioned a husband so to hell with that.

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Enjoyed the audio. There were some 'uh' moments, but you recovered quite well. The rest was fluid. You seem to think your voice is flat; but overall, there was decent range there.

I really need to start doing basic approaches, as I'm typically introverted, and kinda antisocial in nature.

Hope to see more stuff.
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This is a literary style entry. If you enjoy those things, read on. If not, at least you could give it a try.

Today, the weather God shown mercy. He let the sun visit the streets of the Athens of the North. Because of that, I went for a stroll around town with some light day game in mind. I don't write or reminisce about most of the approaches. Most are mundane, anyway and, above all, who has time and desire to listen about them? But this one was a bit less than ordinary. As per usual, being it a Scottish city, not many girls would draw my attention. Yet, quite early on I noticed a slim and tall girl with Russian features across the street. I decided to investigate further without unnecessary delay, thus whizzed past buses, cars and mothers with prams to see as she just turned at the corner and sauntered down the street. It was going to be my first approach for the day. I'll confess to you with some embarrassment, I felt a bit off. This wasn't unusual. Sometimes it's like that. Hence, I made my mind to follow her, then to approach her at the right time, in the right place. In the meantime, moving stealthily behind, I appreciated her svelte shape adorned in the tightest of jeans you could possibly imagine. She walked slowly and looked around. I was almost certain she was a tourist. As I later found out, I was wrong.

I planned to approach her at the next street crossing, when she suddenly stopped in front of the block of flats and began to rummage through her bag. Dead in the water, this one, you'd say. I thought to myself, "Man, you're not gonna approach a girl who's just opening her door! Seeing that, I walked just past her and stopped. Half a minute passed, yet it felt as if every second stretched into a long train journey. However, I mustered up the courage and dived in.

Despite her eastern European features, and to my amusement, she was an Italian girl who's been in town for one year. She responded to my advances surprisingly well. She never made it through the door because she hadn't taken her entry door key. Ah, all this moments that make a difference to our lives. Unplanned, unsystematic, and unbelievable. Before I could get it going, her neighbour, with a little dog in her arms came over and said a few words to us and opened the door and walked through it. Dead in the water, this one, you'd say again. But no. She just put her long leg inside to keep the door ajar with her black, no doubt made in Italy, boot. I kept talking to her about the usual stuff people who just met for the first time talk. I asked

- How old are you?
- I'm twenty years old.
I thought to myself - "what a perfect age". I was in a college at the time when she was still in a kindergarten...
- You're very young. However, it doesn't mean you're not intelligent, I replied.

I introduced myself, just to be polite and shook her hand. Her pupils, encircled by her hazelnut irises, were dilated and she kept licking her raspberry-like lips from time to time. There was palpable tension between us. A coy thought crossed my mind, "what if I invite myself to her place, what if?" A few minutes on, my intuition, for a lack of a better word, decided against it. As it will transpire soon, I was right. It was obvious by now I had to wrap this conversation up. I said, hoping she would object

- I'm sure you've got something to do. I have something to do soon, anyway.
- Yes, I have to go now and make a dinner for my boyfriend, she replied without giving much thought to it.

Before I could reply to this gambit, out of nowhere, a heavily overweight man in his late forties, appeared. He was badly dressed, with crooked teeth and in all black but seemed to be intelligent. He asked her about opening hours of the place next door. Then, he started mumbling about something. I tried to get rid of him but to no avail - he amped up his schtick with quoting some book about treating strangers hospitably. What a lunatic. I decided to let him finish up what he seemed so eager to deliver, praying in my mind he wouldn't destroy those flimsy foundations I've just lied between my and the Italian beauty. Perhaps, I should've told him to get stuffed or go to hell but who knows what would that make him do? After all, it's Scotland and people can do weird things. Was he jealous? Maybe. Eventually, he disappeared and I resumed tête-à-tête with the girl as if she's never mentioned she had a boyfriend.

- So, why don't we hang out some time? I asked.
- I don't think my boyfriend would like that, she replied with a shy smile on her face.
- Yeah... but, then... Um, do you want to marry him?

This was my way of trying to corner my innocent pray. In the past, I succeeded with a girl who claimed she had a boyfriend. Whether it was true or not, I have never found out, nor intended to. The Italian ragazza said they've been dating for a month. He had the same name as me. He was from the same country as me. Now, I'll ask you, dear reader, what are the odds? Low? I reckon, you're right. Low. Nonetheless, I kept my composure and kept the ball rolling. I prodded her by stating

- See, that's not really serious, boys come and go. Why don't you take my number instead?

And she did. Then, we said goodbye to each other and I recommenced my stroll around town.

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I have been carrying a pack of cigarettes around Reykajvik at night during my stay here.

When I see a cute girl or a cool group of people, I approach and ask "do you have a light?" then strike up a conversation. I have been doing this on the street and in bar/club smoking sections.

I like how this simple line can be such a reliable icebreaker.

The best part? I don't smoke!

Of course, if they do have a light then I will smoke the cigarette for a minute, but at that point it doesn't really matter, and people don't seem to notice one way or the other.

I will continue to do this as I travel to new places in the future.
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Went to a store today where a very cute Afgan/Iran girl works. I have only seen her once before but some customers came in making it not suitable for getting her number. Today the store was quiet so stayed for 15-20 minutes chatting and flirting. She remembered what I bought before (two weeks ago) and was smiling/laughing a lot. When I went to pay another customer walked in so I gave her my number instead of asking for hers. She has a great ass and looks like she would be a lot of fun in bed.
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(07-29-2015 10:14 AM)Libertas Wrote:  I've decided to record my approaches when possible from here on. I still keep my journal but going over the audio and adding annotations seems an even better way to learn. This was the one I did yesterday:


I felt a bit rusty. It's been so hot here that I haven't found a ton of girls, or I've just not been as enthusiastic about what I've seen lately. Think I might do a video on congruence when approaching.

Some things I noted was that my overall frame and body language was good and dynamic, but I really didn't like my vocal tones here, they felt very flat. I think that might be a problem with my voice in general.

I'm usually far more direct, so this was not my typical approach and far from my best game. I seemed to be doing better toward the end, but the girl mentioned a husband so to hell with that.

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Good stuff. I like your 'real time' breakdown of your approach. Also, you controlled the conversation and frame of the interaction.

I agree with your approach of if you sense she is not interested or mentions a significant other, just eject gracefully instead of clumsily going for the number. The girls who wouldn't mind or would like you to ask for the number will typically be much more receptive than this girl seemed.

Keep 'em coming!

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6th approach of the day. Trader Joe's once more. Action here every time. I scope out a clerk stocking an aisle, and ask her about the nearby soups, and from there launch into a dialogue about what our respective "top 5" items to get would be. She was some kind of Hispanic. Her thick hoodie concealed the goods higher up, but her tight blue jeans sported a full set of thighs topped with a round and toned ass, so I built up the chat for a few minutes as she worked.

The logistics were quite taxing, as periodically a manager would buzz around, along with the congestion of the customer base, often cutting in to ask her shit. Juuust was I was gearin' up to finish the deal, a weasely-lookin' co-worker appears out of the mist and swoops in alongside her to join in on the stockin' fun. I back down and linger around the neighboring aisles. Every time I'd pass by, that dude would be right on that shit, even trailing along with her as she changed aisles. Epic cockblock. Weak

This'll have to go into the distinct "unfinished business" category. Next time I'll sweep it up . . .
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It's a lunch time and I see a slim girl in tight office-like outfit at a common sitting area outside a local supermarket. There's a mid-forties guy sitting close to her but it's obvious they are not together. There some other people as well but it doesn't matter. It doesn't because it's nobody's business I'm gonna open a girl and I know that at a cognitive level inattentional blindness is at play. I slowly emerge from the supermarket, pop in a mint chewing gum into my mouth to refresh my breath and saunter towards her as she's putting her things into her bag.

- Hey, I just saw you sitting here... I see you're getting ready to go but I like how you're wearing all black and how it contrasts with your blond hair.

She thanked me and we talked a bit. She was, I'd say, in her late twenties, very pleasing demeanour and from west coast. She asked questions, I teased her just a touch about myself, and finally she let me down politely by saying she's moving in here, to east coast, with her boyfriend who works here, next month. Looks like all the interesting girls have boyfriends these days.

The man next to her, doing nothing else but eating and having it as easy as it comes to open her, has never done it but he eveasedropped on the conversation, of course, as his head made a twitch when I approached her. At least her learnt for free she wasn't up for it.

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I think I just blew a good opportunity at 'long game' with a girl I've had my eye on for a few weeks.

She works in the local bookstore. An 8....Long thick auburn hair, 5'6, 24ish....has a well shaped gymnast type body with legs and ass to show. Blue eyes. My kind of look and body. I talked to her once or twice before asking her 'where is such and such section ' at. She was always smiley and warm when I did ( I was thinking it could be just being a hired gun but today there was definite attraction before I "blew" it)

So, i come down the stairs and she's there at the main info counter. I lock her eyes and we're both half smiling at each other as I walk up.
Me: Hi
Her: Hi,
M: Where are the travel books ( I knew where they were and it was a little more secluded area of the store where I would be able to talk to her)
H: Over there to the right....(she started to come from behind the counter)
M: Oh...that way, I looked but didn't see them, maybe I didn't walk far enough down.
H: I'll show you!
we walked over there and she showed me the books on travel to SA. I asked her if she had any favorite travel books.
She told me she'd traveled to Europe and really like the Rick Steve books.... I asked her some questions about travel books. The eye contact and smiling was good.
I asked her where she'd traveled in Europe and she told me. We talked about that for 20 seconds or so.
Me: You've got a bit of an accent, you're not from around here are you?
H: ( laughs and blushes a little....very feminine acting girl ) No, I'm from Minnesota.
M: Ahh...land of 10,000 lakes. Minnesoooowwta (said with a minnesotan accent)
H: Actually it's like 40,000 lakes.
We talked about accents and how she liked growing up around water.
M: I know what you mean, I grew up around water too. I kind of miss all of it.
H: Where are you from?
M: Guess.
Her: ( laughing) somewhere in the south.
I told her she was right and where I'm from. I also added that I'd recently relocated.
We talked a bit more about accents and this and that. The whole time she was on and off twirling her hair, and preening her hair, making good eye contact and smiling. After a few minutes I could tell she was looking back at her info counter.
M: Okay, thanks I'll check out these books.
H: Okay, let me know if you have any more questions!

I mess around in the travel books section for a little over 5 minutes and head to exit the store. Her info counter is on the way out. She watches me walk up.

M: Yeah, I think those Steve books are only for Europe and not SA.
she asks if I checked out the other brands and I told her I would probably just read some Amazon reviews and come back as that is a way I sometimes use to choose a good book. We kind of laughed at this.

M: Well, thanks for your help. What was your name by the way?
Her: Katie
M: nice to meet you. ( we didn't shake hands as the front of the info counter was in the way but the energy felt good)
H: You too. What's your name?
M; robreke.
H: So, you just got to town? So you'll be around here a bit ?
M: Yeah, I'll be around ( smirk)

This is where I should have just left the store . She knew who I was and from all indicators, was interested in me and attracted to some extent. Also, from her final question, it seemed she was hopeful she may see me again. In addition, the bookstore was crowded and a lot of customers were milling about, including in the general area of the info desk ( which could have added to her 'self consciousness').

But no, I soldier on unimpeded in my quest for a bookstore-girl flag:

M: I have one more question. Would you like to meet up for a coffee one evening after work when you're free?
H: She smiled and demurely looked down and to the side...kind of glancing around ( perhaps self consciously about the other people in the store?) " I can't"
M: I see....cause I'm asking you on the job? ( I said this with an amused quizzical look....perhaps I shouldn't have said it)
H: Yeah.
M: Okay, well...thanks for your help.

Far as I can tell this is one case where pushing for the date was a bad move. She was working at the info desk. She'd been helping people left and right and I'd seen her helping a few other older customers.

So, she possibly felt 'on the spot' when I pushed for the date.

It seemed she was 'willing' and even wanting to see me again based on her questions and body language ( never know as she could have a boyfriend and just likes the male 'attention').

In any event, I should have calibrated better....and over time tried to win her over.

Now, I'm thinking it's either all over or I'll just wait 3 or 4 weeks before I go back and basically ignore her to see if she still has any interest whatsoever.

Usually when I ask a girl out and she says no, I don't kick myself like this, but this girl has that 'look' that I really like and a sweet disposition to match from the little I know. In addition, she was seemingly interested. Dang it!

I have a few other approaches from the past week or so I'll be updating soon.

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(08-02-2015 03:38 PM)robreke Wrote:  M: I have one more question. Would you like to meet up for a coffee one evening after work when you're free?
H: She smiled and demurely looked down and to the side...kind of glancing around ( perhaps self consciously about the other people in the store?) " I can't"
M: I see....cause I'm asking you on the job? ( I said this with an amused quizzical look....perhaps I shouldn't have said it)
H: Yeah.
M: Okay, well...thanks for your help.

No, this was no mistake to ask her on the job. Where else would you ask her out? You could've waited until the store closes and she leaves for home but that would look stalker-ish.

The mistake was to fill the reply in for her so she just rolled with it. Instead of saying 'I see....cause I'm asking you on the job? ', you could've said 'Really?' and wait for her to justify her in declining the offer. There are, of course, other employees and CCTV and her exchanging numbers with you could have been frowned upon her as unprofessional behaviour but a girl who wants to get laid, will find her way. For example, it could have been her giving you her name so you could add her on Facebook or just to verbally agree to meet you at certain time at a certain location.

If you want an approach redoux badly, go, if you can, with an attractive female friend and pay no attention to her whatsoever. Then, go again by yourself and exchange info in a creative fashion. For instance, give her a book with your name and number written on the inside. If you feel very naughty and don't care, get her Dirty Words: The Story of Sex Talk wrapped up in a plain paper. Say, you'd just come up to her, wink and say 'Hey, I think you'd love this book,' and leave. If nothing happens, at least you'll have a story to tell and she will have you in her memory as a mofo like no other bookworm frequenting the bookstore only to get a quick glance at her sexy body.

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(08-02-2015 04:17 PM)ksbms Wrote:  
(08-02-2015 03:38 PM)robreke Wrote:  M: I have one more question. Would you like to meet up for a coffee one evening after work when you're free?
H: She smiled and demurely looked down and to the side...kind of glancing around ( perhaps self consciously about the other people in the store?) " I can't"
M: I see....cause I'm asking you on the job? ( I said this with an amused quizzical look....perhaps I shouldn't have said it)
H: Yeah.
M: Okay, well...thanks for your help.

No, this was no mistake to ask her on the job. Where else would you ask her out? You could've waited until the store closes and she leaves for home but that would look stalker-ish.

The mistake was to fill the reply in for her so she just rolled with it. Instead of saying 'I see....cause I'm asking you on the job? ', you could've said 'Really?' and wait for her to justify her in declining the offer. There are, of course, other employees and CCTV and her exchanging numbers with you could have been frowned upon her as unprofessional behaviour but a girl who wants to get laid, will find her way. For example, it could have been her giving you her name so you could add her on Facebook or just to verbally agree to meet you at certain time at a certain location.

If you want an approach redoux badly, go, if you can, with an attractive female friend and pay no attention to her whatsoever. Then, go again by yourself and exchange info in a creative fashion. For instance, give her a book with your name and number written on the inside. If you feel very naughty and don't care, get her Dirty Words: The Story of Sex Talk wrapped up in a plain paper. Say, you'd just come up to her, wink and say 'Hey, I think you'd love this book,' and leave. If nothing happens, at least you'll have a story to tell and she will have you in her memory as a mofo like no other bookworm frequenting the bookstore only to get a quick glance at her sexy body.

I like the idea of going with another girl. I've got a little rotation started so that's doable. I'll think about the redeux.

^ I know I'd have to approach her at the bookstore, my only thoughts was I should have played 'long game' perhaps and gone for the date at a later time when it wasn't a crowded Sunday or after she'd 'warmed' up to me after seeing me in there on and off over the course of a month or so.

But, fuck it. In retrospect a man has to put it out there and be willing to be rejected. That's what I did.

On a brighter note, not 10 minutes after I typed that approach report about bookstore girl, I opened a girl sitting behind me at the coffee shop. I did the standard "is that a good laptop " approach.

She had an apple laptop. I clandestinely slipped my apple laptop into my bag out of view before I opened so she wouldn't see it. Then, claimed I had a PC and the reason I was asking her is because "I've been looking to get an apple macbook." Laugh

She was a friendly optometrist assistant. Brunette, blue eyes, mid 20s and from what I could tell of her sitting down body, slim to athletic looking ( was wearing a tight tank top, black yoga pants and pink tennis shoes) She had a pretty face and nice hands ( which are very important to me)

We bantered 5 minutes and she offered her name and her hand to shake after some laughing and such. She'd also responded to my bait about my job, where I was from and what my name was.

Sooooo

as I was getting up to leave:

Me: So I'm about to meet some friends at (such and such place) but you're pretty cool and helpful. Would you like to meet up for a coffee or drink one day?
Her: Sure!
Me: handing my phone for the number . I'll text her tomorrow evening along with a few other plates I'm working.

2 approaches today: 1 number: We'll see....

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Had a couple approaches here and there, but here's the best interaction so far. It's a little lengthy, but first a short lead into it...

I've just moved from Miami to a little town in the mountains, and there's a yoga class I'm wanting to go to regularly. So it's my second time to go, and to get there, I walk 2 minutes from my door to a bus stop, where I ride that to another station, and take another bus into the next town over. From there, there's a gondola ride to the yoga class.

So after my two minute walk to the bus stop, I see what looks like an attractive young blonde sitting down on the bench already waiting. But the bus door opens as I'm approaching, and she's seated, so I just walk onto the bus and sit down.

The young blonde then boards the bus, and she's talking with another woman and her young daughter. I've noticed that she is in really good shape - about 5'4", long hair, athletic body, great teeth and blue eyes. She looks just like a girl I remember that was interested in me years ago, but I wasn't receptive.

Anyway, I'm sitting down on the bus, and as we get going, she's and the other woman are still talking, and I overhear:

other woman: Yeah, we're from Boca Raton!
Blonde: Oh wow, I'm from Tampa!


So I interject: I guess this is the Florida bus, right?

OW & Blonde: Oh where are you from?!
Fujiwara: I'm from Miami
blah blah blah

I withdraw from the conversation. Later on, I hear this:

Blonde: Yeah, I'm a student at So-and-So University State College...

I interject again: How funny! Me too...

She asks when, blah blah blah. I withdraw again. The ladies go on and chat the whole way. I hear her mention at some point that she has a boyfriend. Whatever.

We get to the end of the ride, and I go to my next bus. They, and most of the people boarded the first bus also get onto the next bus. Blondie and the woman with daughter are still chatting the whole time from one bus to the other. As far as I'm concerned, that's it. I don't know how to continue this, and I've got a schedule to keep, so I'm back in my own world.

When it gets to the end of the line, I've now put my headphones in and I don't remember what mix it was, but it was something high energy. Now that I'm typing this, I wish I would remember... Anyway, I've walked from the bus stop to the lift, and since it's not open yet, I'm just there with the mess of people sitting down and waiting.

Except I've got my headphones in and don't give a fuck and I'm kind of half-dancing/definitely feeling something. And after about 6-7 minutes of this, I notice that Blondie has shown up and has joined the group of us waiting. I do another circle, then make eye contact, pull my headphones out (I've been smiling forever), and say:

Fujiwara: Oh hey Florida girl
Blondie: Oh hey
Fujiwara: Well it looks like you're going where I'm going
Blondie: Oh are you going to yoga?
Fujiwara: you got it


We continue chatting, and so then the gate opens, and we all start going in. About a dozen people go before us, and then I stop to let her go in before me.

People are loading up into the gondolas, and then 3 people get into one in front of us. So...

Fujiwara: Let's take the next one

This time instead of letting her go ahead, say "c'mon" and lead her into the next empty gondola.

She asks how long the ride is. I tell her 20 minutes. The door closes, she looks at me.

Blondie: Do you smoke?
Fujiwara: Smoke what?


Since I've just outed myself as a smoker, she pulls out the one-hitter and packs it up. Hits it, and passes it to me. I'm fairly sure that at this point I've had to adjust my growing erection in my briefs - boner test passed with flying colors. Well, so we chat the whole way up, she's 20, and only in town for two days. We talk and smoke the way up. It's a pretty good chat I'm thinking the whole way. Get to the top, she says she needs water, so I direct her to where she can get some water and tell her I'll save her a spot.

Yoga class happens. She asks me if I'm going down now, sure, I am.

So we get back into a lift, the two of us, and take the ride down. Conversation goes on the whole way, not bad. She's asking about things to do with her friend, but they're both 20, and this is a drinking town that is strict on IDs. Anyway, I mention that I might know something, and tell her to give me her number so we can do something later, she does. We get off, say later, I see her go to her waiting family, and I go off on my business.

I texted her a couple hours later. No response. Deleted the contact.

No worries. Yoga tomorrow. Smile Third time's the charm?
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I was in Temple Bar the other night with my main wing.
Probably had one drink too many, early doors, means am in a good flow and feeling good.
We get talking to some young French girls, all quite pretty, pleasant personalities and friendly.
I estimate they are late twenties, turns out they're all twenty one!
It worked in my favour though, they were (mock) offended, but really they liked it.
My bro was working the 'fifteen minute rule' and signalled it was time to leave.
We moved on and met two Norwegians, one very cute, the other not so much.
Things going well, she likes us both.
But I mess up, on two counts.
First my wallet goes missing, so that throws my state somewhat, several lost cards and a small amount of money.
Anyway, I bounce back, and she offers us both some 'snus'.
I decide to give it a go, and she then informs me I might get sick from it!
Sure enough, fifteen minutes later, I'm feeling nauseous and have tingling all over.
Five minutes later, I'm throwing up in the bathrooms, not good.
Game over.
I try to convince my buddy to stay as am pretty sure it's on for him.
No go, he's a good guy, he insists on dropping me home (probably just as well, as I wasn't feeling too good!).
Next day was not pretty, but actually there was plenty of positives to take from the night.
A bit less alcohol and a bit more self control next time though.
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(07-31-2015 11:38 PM)robreke Wrote:  
(07-29-2015 10:14 AM)Libertas Wrote:  I've decided to record my approaches when possible from here on. I still keep my journal but going over the audio and adding annotations seems an even better way to learn. This was the one I did yesterday:


I felt a bit rusty. It's been so hot here that I haven't found a ton of girls, or I've just not been as enthusiastic about what I've seen lately. Think I might do a video on congruence when approaching.

Some things I noted was that my overall frame and body language was good and dynamic, but I really didn't like my vocal tones here, they felt very flat. I think that might be a problem with my voice in general.

I'm usually far more direct, so this was not my typical approach and far from my best game. I seemed to be doing better toward the end, but the girl mentioned a husband so to hell with that.

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Good stuff. I like your 'real time' breakdown of your approach. Also, you controlled the conversation and frame of the interaction.

I agree with your approach of if you sense she is not interested or mentions a significant other, just eject gracefully instead of clumsily going for the number. The girls who wouldn't mind or would like you to ask for the number will typically be much more receptive than this girl seemed.

Keep 'em coming!

I agree with all that's been said. I thought you rambled well and your voice has that relaxed unrushed feel to it which is always better than the hyper high pitched squeak of some of the today's twenty(and even thirty)somethings.
I thought your ramble was good, no harm to start off with weather related topics although sticking to this topic can quickly lead to friend zone territory if you're not careful. That said, you managed to make a potentially mundane topic(weather) sound kind of playful and engaging.
Good work sir. Hopefully the next one won't have a husband!
I have very little experience of Asian women generally, as they're often first generation or FOTBs here in Ireland, with little English.
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The only reason for this post is a girl's ass.

To be fair, for a Scottish girl she had a refreshingly young and pleasant countenance and great body with fine proportions too. But the curves of her ass where as beautiful as contours of the cello. And its shape as defying gravity as interstellar space. Needles to say, I was so mesmerized I knew I had to to talk to her. I have made, unfortunately, a school-boy error. Instead of making an on-the-spot approach, I decided to follow her for a bit for the street was very noisy and busy. Well, she got herself into a train station and I expected she would board a train. Before she did, I approached her near the boarding gate but the approach was weak, I wasn't grounded, she was distracted, other people around, the train was about to leave... though she seemed somewhat flattered. In other words, I traded the surroundings of the approach for worse than a couple minutes earlier. She works in a shop on the main street, thus If I bump into her again, I'll re-open, no questions about that. The thing is, we often bump into people whom we don't want to, and don't whom we want to.

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Have been off work so have approached a good 2 dozen girls over the last week, without any joy.

Today I was in a Department store in the UK in the cosmetics / fragrance section.

Was browsing the male aftershave section and a lovely old (think 50's/60's) came over to me and talked me to death, I was NOT gaming her at all but she found out I was single, nice man blah blah blah.

Anyway I clocked a gorgeous Asian lady spraying female perfume on passers by and proceeded to head in that direction. As I got closer to her I continued to smell the scent card from the male aftershave section.

Me - What are you laughing at
Her - Nothing, I am just smiling
Me - Oh sorry, thought you were laughing at me smelling this card
Her - Oh no, I was just being friendly
Me - So what is that you have got (pointing to her spray)
Her - Oh it is a new ladies perfume XXX (cannot remember what it was)
Me - Oh is it a nice one
Her - Yes, would you like to try it
Me - No, I only tend to wear ladies perfume at the weekend
Her - (Laughing a lot) - I meant to see if it is something you could buy your wife/girlfriend
Me - Oh I do not have a girlfriend at the minute
Her - Oh I am surprised as you look good (I thought I was in at this point)
Me - Thanks it is all the face creams I am using......I agree I do look fantastic for 75!
Her - (Laughing again) - ha ha if you are 75 then I need to use those creams
Me - You hardly need anti age creams my socks are older than you
Her - haha think you need some new socks then
Me - maybe! So which fragrance does your boyfriend wear (hoping for her to say I do not have, then get the number)
Her - Oh well I bought my husband this one last time (heart sinks as you know this one is dead)
Me - Ok, might try that myself.....

Then out of nowhere the older lady comes over and laughs at me saying, are you just here to keep my staff entertained?!!

She finishes by saying you are too nice to be single, come back in a few days and I will let you know which of the girls in this Department are single, and I will set you up............ha ha outsourcing cosmetic girl game!

This approach aside, have 20 or 30 more this last week of similar stories...and ALL have stated I have a boyfriend / husband. I accept that this may be their gentle put down, however, all interactions went well. I do feel my problem at the minute Is being lucky enough to stumble on a single hot girl.........putting the work in and not getting the output is denting my motivation somewhat.
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^First off, almost all attractive women will have some sort of man in their lives, that does not mean they are not looking for a way out.

You can ask "oh, and how is that working out for you?" some will say to ask "are you in love with him?"

Then start a stopwatch in your head, the longer it takes her to respond, the easier time you will have getting her into bed. You can say 'you really hesitated there' if it looks like she hesitated a ton.

You can also check to see if she is wearing a wedding band. Of course, plenty of married women cheat, if they are liking your game, might as well keep gaming them.

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Good advice...I never push on...but all the above is solid advice.
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Push as far as their panties drop Banana

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new guy on the block here, hoping to learn the shit out of day game.

-> Saw mexican HB8 at bus stop
->introduced myself
-> she's 26, im 20, she only been here 3 months, not exactly confident with her.
Instadated her and hung oiut with her but i didnt do any escalation cause i didnt realize you can do it even when meeting her for the first time in the day time lol

anyways got her number at the end and have a date arranged for this saturday. It's just gunna be hard escalating physically after already having spent 3-4 hours with her not having done so. Should I hang with her normally, enjoy the chill sesh, and then go in for a kiss close?

also met an asian 8 at the same bus stop, she has a bf but gave me her number, said she'll text me for a date today or tomorrow, so well see. Question gents, if she doesnt text me today or tomorrow, do i text her later or should i move along?
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(08-06-2015 11:40 AM)babaelly Wrote:  new guy on the block here, hoping to learn the shit out of day game.

-> Saw mexican HB8 at bus stop
->introduced myself
-> she's 26, im 20, she only been here 3 months, not exactly confident with her.
Instadated her and hung oiut with her but i didnt do any escalation cause i didnt realize you can do it even when meeting her for the first time in the day time lol

anyways got her number at the end and have a date arranged for this saturday. It's just gunna be hard escalating physically after already having spent 3-4 hours with her not having done so. Should I hang with her normally, enjoy the chill sesh, and then go in for a kiss close?

also met an asian 8 at the same bus stop, she has a bf but gave me her number, said she'll text me for a date today or tomorrow, so well see. Question gents, if she doesnt text me today or tomorrow, do i text her later or should i move along?

Sure you can escalate on the second date. Who says you can't? Just do things like calm high fives every now and then when she reveals some cool fact about herself. Occasional fist bumps...just don't over do it.

Touch her arm or leg when y'all or joking about something. When you get up to walk somewhere, put your hand at the small of her back as she goes through the door, lightly touching her.

Just touch a bit on and off throughout the date so she gets comfy with it.

Then, when you go for the kiss at the end, it won't be as big a deal.

For the Asian, I'd wait a few days and throw out a 'what's up' text, but since she said she has a BF, don't expect much.

One planet orbiting a star. Billions of stars in the galaxy. Billions of galaxies in the universe. Approach.
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