(06-14-2015 09:24 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Just about to close out 2 harem girls - Jariel made me call myself out.

The cute black girl won't take this lightly - even thought she knows I'm busy and can't maintain a relationship.

I finally talked to her at lunch - I knew it wouldn't turn out well.

Basically called her and I went for the let's be honest and open talk.

I summarized her texts to me as wanting to spend more time with me and developing a possible relationship.

I told her I can't offer her that, my schedule won't let me, and I didn't want to lead her on.

I told her I enjoyed my time with her but I just can't do an LTR right now, of course came the crying.

I comforted her a little bit relaying it's me, not her.

She knows the door is open if she needs to tell me anything else or if she wants to hangout with me again.

I also sold it on me being a good guy and not wanting to lead her on and hurt her anymore.

My conscience is clean....I need to do this more often with girls in my rotation that aren't going anywhere that I know are catching feelings.

Another upside is there are 3 other cute black girls that can replace her that I've got numbers for.

Game on.

Any of you guys deal with homeschooled college girls before? I'm lost.

(06-15-2015 06:38 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  Any of you guys deal with homeschooled college girls before? I'm lost.

The only one I dealt with was ultra conservative. She was attracted and I met her in a bookstore. When I went for the number for a possible 'coffee date at a later time'

She said ' i don't think my parents would like me giving out my number. When will you be back here in the bookstore though?"

She was 19.

(06-15-2015 07:01 PM)robreke Wrote:  

(06-15-2015 06:38 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  Any of you guys deal with homeschooled college girls before? I'm lost.

The only one I dealt with was ultra conservative. She was attracted and I met her in a bookstore. When I went for the number for a possible 'coffee date at a later time'

She said ' i don't think my parents would like me giving out my number. When will you be back here in the bookstore though?"

She was 19.

Ya this is one of those once in a blue moon kind of deals. No social media, kind of boring(obsessed with studying), but completely innocent with her face flushing red and giggling every time I'm doing some light kino like a hand on her thigh. I would also be willing to put a fair amount of money on being a virgin.


Thankfully I have an in because of a summer course we are taking together, but I haven't been this excited in a long time at a prospect from initial conversation. I can probably say the last time was two years ago when talking to upper end girls without making myself look stupid finally started to happen.

Will a woman understand that I'm saving my money for something that's why I don't have a car right now?

(06-15-2015 10:28 PM)dassad5a5 Wrote:  Will a woman understand that I'm saving my money for something that's why I don't have a car right now?

Uber is your best friend. Also who cares what a woman thinks as long as you can get her to like you. Don't bring up the car if you don't want too. Better than having something lame like a Toyota Yaris.

I have developed a crush on my yoga instructor. It's probably been years since I last had a crush and I am concerned. Maybe I've changed. I thought that being subjected to the ideas on this forum had long ago rid me of such notions.

Well after heavily relying on it for about 3 years I'm swearing off online dating. I kept thinking that finding better quality women was just around the corner but it's pretty much always been the same cast of single moms, misfits and busted women. I've had some gems here and there but in about 70% of the dates I've had the women ended up being someone I would not have approached in real life but I went for the bang anyway.

I have no problems admitting that mass cold approaching scares the shit out of me but the sporadic times I've done it in the past I ALWAYS end up feeling better about myself and I feel the most alive in that moment.

Soooo....I have a few OKC women pipelined that I'll be working through this week and next but after that if I want to bang I need to live off the land so to speak. I'll be living in the approach thread from now on. I feel like I'm starting at square one and in a way I am but it's an exciting new direction to go in.

OTSC, I think the way to killing AA is to go monk mode until you get a lay from cold approach. This helped me tons. AA usually comes back when I want to approach a girl on Public Transit (Train, bus). I'd sugguest trying tinder but cold approach may be the way to go for a bit. I'm currently using online and day game.

Thanks Wrighter. I used to use Tinder and for me it's still a crutch. I absolutely agree on holding out for a cold approach lay.

(06-16-2015 05:39 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  Well after heavily relying on it for about 3 years I'm swearing off online dating. I kept thinking that finding better quality women was just around the corner but it's pretty much always been the same cast of single moms, misfits and busted women. I've had some gems here and there but in about 70% of the dates I've had the women ended up being someone I would not have approached in real life but I went for the bang anyway.

I have no problems admitting that mass cold approaching scares the shit out of me but the sporadic times I've done it in the past I ALWAYS end up feeling better about myself and I feel the most alive in that moment.

Soooo....I have a few OKC women pipelined that I'll be working through this week and next but after that if I want to bang I need to live off the land so to speak. I'll be living in the approach thread from now on. I feel like I'm starting at square one and in a way I am but it's an exciting new direction to go in.

Brave mate and I wish you all the best.

Day game is something that I am weak at but in reality is the only way to increase quality. Online is so looks based that there is always an upper limit on what you can get.
The transition from online to day game is one I'll have to make sooner or later as well if I want to get better quality.

Interesting meet up tonight:

Met up with an 18 year old, 7.5 ish black girl tonight matched on POF from the looks of it in person - perky C tits, decent body, should could do better with her hair.

She was really short with texts and didn't think she'd be interested in meeting up.

We were supposed to hangout Saturday but I flaked on her, I actually called and explained something came up, she seemed pretty cool on the phone.

Text here and there until then, I finally hit her this afternoon to meet up at a coffee shop, she seemed up to it.

After playing phone tag and text I finally call her when I get back from the gym and tell her where to meet me and when.

I shoot her the address and she gives me LMR about it being so far, I sell her on it not being that far at all and I'll grab the coffee.

She's complaining she has no idea where it is and she can't drive that well at night.

I tease her and call her on flaking and nexting her.

She tries to reschedule because "she still wants to meet up because I seem really interesting". I'm out of town the next few days and say "fuck it let's make this work, drive near X town's coffee shop (literally a 10 minute drive for me) about a 20 minute drive for her.

I finish grubbing, head on out, she calls me as I'm halfway there asking where I'm at.

I show up - she actually looks better in person, lots of jewelry, dressed pretty fashionable and has a cute smile, very feminine.

We walk up and order our drinks I pull out my phone to get my card, she hands the cashier her card to pay. She doesn't skip a beat and we chat up waiting for our drinks.

She's a bit shy at first but opens, she's pretty confident, a bit cocky, and sounds like she doesn't take shit.

Turns out she's the only daughter that lives at home and semi admits she's a bit spoiled. She just graduated and is headed into nursing school, her parents got her a car, but she decided to work on her own.

She was on her phone a bit, so I call her out on it with a smirk, drop a hint that it was my pet peeve, and that I've left a date because a girl was on her phone - all with a smile of course.

She puts her phone in her pocket after I say this, so compliance isn't an issue so far.

We talk backgrounds, some relationships, guns, dates. I check out her jewelry and grab her hand to check out her watch for a few seconds.

Great eye contact, smiled alot, was neutral when it came to leaning in.

This might kind of sound funny (possibly stereotyping) to some of you gents, but to those who've dated or banged black girls know they can be proper and get hood real quick.

When she was talking about something exciting she'd go that way.

The shop was closing so we moved the convo into her car.

I tease her about me leaving and nudge her then put my hand on her back, she didn't mind at all.

The funny thing is she was very open but a bit reserved.

I grab her hand and check out her nails say I love being scratched, she took it as fucking and getting my back torn up and called me a freak. I laughed and said back scratches, but called her on being a freak also, she laughed.

There were a few points in the conversation I pretended to get creeped out by things she liked and said. I'd pretend to get out of the car and she'd say "no don't go !"

We keep chatting in her car and she start going hood about a guy that burned her, talking about a fight she almost had in high school, how she doesn't do drugs anymore. How alcohol makes her get naked.

I have to remember this girls is only 18 still lol.

I tease her about racking up points to "maybe" see her again. She confidently said she isn't worried about it.

Keep talking about our lives and experiences, I actually think it was funny she would go proper then hood.

It's getting late and I tell her I have to bounce, we somehow start another conversation her legs are folded and pointed towards me in her driver seat.

Conversation winds down and I go to hug her, she suggests we get out of the car to say goodbye.

So far so good, we hug for a bit, said she had fun, I grab her waist again and go for the kiss.

She straight up smiles and turns her head and says "lol na uh, not the first time"

I played it cool, smirk, and say "Hey if you don't try, you'll never know lol" I was actually a bit pissed thinking in my head "this bitch really said that?"

I'm not sure if I told her to text me when she got home, but she did text me.

I'll obviously send her a reply later in the morning.


Summary:

Meeting halfway never usually consists of anything more than a make out for me, the fact she completely and vocally denied my kiss attempt, definitely makes me think she's going to play absolutely hard to get. Especially after she texted me after the meet up.

To me it's game on and challenge accepted, this going to take some extra gamesmanship on my part, I've gotta stay ready, I'll admit my frame wasn't that strong, but it kept her in check.

I know she sees SMV and I know she sees something in me, we always have some of the same qualities also. I handled her bragging and shit tests pretty damn well.

Overall we meshed pretty well together and she absolutely passed the boner test.

We'll see what happens with feisty gal.

So homeschooled girl on her own initiative and came up to me and asked to be tutored in a subject. I'm just sitting here with a shit eating grin about how easy this is going to be, but better hold my breath.

Another date:

Tinder match, met at a coffee shop halfway

Turned out to be a Latin 6, seemed very neurotic, decent body, I honestly wasn't even sexualizing her at all, just listening to her and dropping comments here and there with some red pill views.

No boner test, maybe I was just tired, bounced after an hour and 30.

When I have her a hug she had the funniest look on her face, wasn't sure if it was because I didn't kiss her or if it was because she thought I was going in for a kiss, when I wasn't.

This girl has only 1-2 days off a week, not a good sign, I probably won't make anything of this.

I seem to have run into a streak of 3 girls, all who need a slower approach to the bang for slut defense mechanism apparently. Had I presented the hardcore bad boy persona I think it would have driven them off. All met online.

Interesting that until now my track record for online dates was SNL or 2nd date. I hate putting in extra work in the middle of the summer. Going to a local MMA fight with one Saturday. 5' ginger with DDs. Maybe the fight will bring out the Irish in her

@kaotic
Why is it a bad sign that she only has 1-2days off?

Was dating a sexy little 22 year old for awhile. I dumped her and now the sex is better but less frequent which is all good.
Last weekend hooked up with a woman my age (35) obviously way too old lol but I said fuck it. She must have had a kid cause her pussy was too large.
I'm a little jaded by sex. So when I go Out this weekend I'm going for the hottest bitches I see. I just don't give a fuck. Which is fucking graaaate

(06-18-2015 12:56 PM)Rage_on Wrote:  @kaotic
Why is it a bad sign that she only has 1-2days off?

It took 2 weeks just to drag her out and meet up.

My schedule is very busy also, so it's hard to meet up.

Also if she's only got 1 or 2 days, higher probability of flaking, because "I have so much to catch up with, etc, etc."

As a fuck buddy, it'd be a great set up, she doesn't seem like that kind of girl, honestly the effort doesn't seem it'd be worth the reward, she seemed paranoid at first half jokingly thanking me in a post date text that I didn't kidnap her.

kaotic
Trust your instincts, if it seems like a time waster it probably is. You can do better

I deleted my tinder account. I could pull low quality lays with low effort but it wasn't really increasing my quality of life. And to hook up with 7s was taking weeks of me essentially entertaining the fuck out of her via text message. What a fucking waste. In my opinion it just takes too much time to build the comfort/attraction whatever without having met her. Tinder is a vacuum. That's my opinion of course. A guy CAN get laid from it. But it kind of devalues him in the process.

Just want to clarify that tinder is a decent way to get laid. For some it's just convenient or fun or what have you. I was just airing my opinion and kind of solidifying that opinion to myself. I don't have the luxury of being arrogant

Game is, amongst so many other things, about getting what we want in an effective, efficient, and fun way. I don't need to crap on any method of doing that.
I think that every instance of us "not trusting our instincts or judgement" is really just fear. And fear doesn't work for us

(06-18-2015 03:42 PM)Rage_on Wrote:  kaotic
Trust your instincts, if it seems like a time waster it probably is. You can do better

I deleted my tinder account. I could pull low quality lays with low effort but it wasn't really increasing my quality of life. And to hook up with 7s was taking weeks of me essentially entertaining the fuck out of her via text message. What a fucking waste. In my opinion it just takes too much time to build the comfort/attraction whatever without having met her. Tinder is a vacuum. That's my opinion of course. A guy CAN get laid from it. But it kind of devalues him in the process.

I came to this realization a couple of days ago except it was with OKC. I've done well as far as getting lays but the women I'm getting are not satisfying to me. The idea of getting any new pussy through cold approaches is unsettling but very exciting to me at the same time.

(06-18-2015 03:45 PM)Rage_on Wrote:  Just want to clarify that tinder is a decent way to get laid. For some it's just convenient or fun or what have you. I was just airing my opinion and kind of solidifying that opinion to myself. I don't have the luxury of being arrogant

Almost every attempt of mine to finalize plans to meet or offers to meet up with a chick result in radio silence. Great banter, flirting, etc etc then the offer to meet, and zilch. Wonder what everyone else is doing differently.

I know we have a huge thread on Tinder but I dunno if I really care enough about the app to weed through it.

It's just so easy to waste time on tinder/texting. It can be fruitful, it'll get you laid, but at what cost? It's a fine line. Wasting time is the antithesis of good game. Women LOVE to waste time, their own and mine. Fuck that noise.
opening girls face to face is a much more substantial and much more valuable way to spend time even when it isn't fruitful. Texting and bullshit will build SOME skills but not to the extent real life game will. Rejections from tinder don't teach you anything.
The temptation for me is that it's easy as fuck. You get a nibble and you get high and then you dive into it. I've spent time talking to tinder bitches while I'm out at night venues surrounded by people. It's like Jesus christ dude.

@checkmat are you getting their number and texting them first before proposing the meetup? It may be too much of a jump to go straight from the app to meetup. It's like the old yes ladder concept in sales.