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(05-12-2015 02:47 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Gio

Could you expand upon this a little:

Quote: Don't Rush -- If I don't bang on the first date, it's no big deal. We must be willing to do a 2nd or even 3rd date. I don't put pressure on a girl to take her clothes off. I try a few ties and if she doesn't want to do it, I remain calm and show no emotional reaction. When I was a beginner, I would beg and plead with girls to take their clothes off which made me appear immature and sophomoric.

Is this because of abundance?


Yes, its partly because of abundance.

I don't need to be overly aggressive, desperate, and needy.

I know I can get girls. I have proven it to myself.

If a girl does not want to be with me, I don't worry about it. I will another one that does.

Also, if a girl does not want to get naked on our first date, I don't worry about it. I will do a second date.

I don't need to beg for sex and I dont need to force or rush things.

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(05-13-2015 06:44 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  Game is easy.

Nor for me. I have had to work extremely hard to develop my game.

(05-13-2015 06:44 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  Sex is easy

Not for me. I have to talk to many girls before I find one that wants to have sex with me.

*Getting a prostitute is the easy way to get sex but I haven't done that in 10 years *

(05-13-2015 06:44 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  Money is easy

Not for me. I was born poor and I am still working class.

(05-13-2015 06:44 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  Fitness is easy.

Not for me. I must work extremely hard in order to maintain a fit body.

(05-13-2015 06:44 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  Knowledge is easy.

Acquiring knowledge is easy.

Applying the right knowledge at the right time is often hard for me.

(05-13-2015 06:44 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  Seeing The World is easy.

For an American citizen, yes.

But, for many people around the world, getting an international travel visa can be very difficult.

(05-13-2015 06:44 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  Happiness is hard!

"Happiness" is very subjective.

For some, it's hard.

For others, it's easy.

I think genetics play a factor, upbringing plays a factor, lifestyle plays a factor, attitude plays a factor, etc.

(05-13-2015 06:44 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  There is no formula.

Here is the formula that I use:

I look at this chart..

[Image: Screen-shot-2012-05-14-at-10.28.00-AM.png]

I start at the bottom..

"Physiological" -- If my physiological needs are being met, I move on to the next level.

(if my physiological needs are not being met, I take action to fix the problem)

"Safety" -- If my safety is secure, I move on to the next level.

(if my safety is not secure, I take action to fix the problem)

"Love/Belonging" -- If I feel loved by my friends and family + I have enough intimacy in my life, I move on to the next level.

(if my I don't feel love and intimacy, I take action to fix the problem)

"Esteem" -- If I have esteem and confidence, I move on to the next level.

(if I don't have esteem and confidence, I take action to fix the problem)

"Self-Actualization" -- I don't expect myself to be perfect. But, as long as my basic needs are being met, I consider myself happy.

If I am not happy, its almost always because one of these needs is not being met.


Again, when a need is not being met, I take action to fix the problem.

Honestly, most of the time, I do not even fulfill all of the things in this pyramid, but, as long as my basic needs are being met, I don't feel that I have any reason to be unhappy.

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I ignore my feelings, thoughts, and emotions. Those things are often not representative of the physical reality. Often times, those things do not give an accurate viewpoint of the situation because they are effected by my mood, my sleep, my diet, my information consumption, my current brain chemistry, etc. .

I don't like to rely on "feelings".

I prefer a more logical approach to assessing my happiness.

I don't really ask myself if I am happy. I ask myself if my basic needs are being met.

Asking myself if I am happy is a recipe for over thinking and dependence on my current "feelings".

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In my opinion, for a man in the first world whose basic needs are being met, a lack of happiness is often a lack of proper perspective.

This is the easiest time in history to satisfy our basic needs. Generally speaking, the further we go back into history, the harder it is the satisfy our basic needs.

100 years ago, life was short and brutish.

1000 years ago, life was barbaric.

10000 years ago, life was animalistic.

There is no better time in history to be alive. There has never been more opportunity for freedom, fun, health, wealth, sex, etc.

That is my perspective. This perspective and happiness assessment protocol has allowed me to be quite happy for most of my life.
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I feel like I had one in the bag here and screwed it up. Picked up a cute girl and her sister after approaching at a restaurant (she hit me with "hi" already after prolonged eye contact after walking by") so the opener was easy.

Here's how it went down.

Me: Hey
Her: we are comeback school
Her: i don't speak english?
Me: How long will you be in zhaoqing?
Her: Tomorrow
Me: You're leaving tomorrow?
Her: yes my school is in gaungzhou
Her: Iam come my friends school
Me: Oh. That's no fun. What are you doing tonight?
Her: With my F
Me: Are you going out somewhere? Maybe I can meet you (really need to delete maybe from my vocabulary)
Her: No.
Her: 跟好朋友聊天 Chat with friends
Me: Sounds boring. you should come meet me somewhere.
Her: no i have a BF
Her: i promise his
Me: Oh. Too bad.
Her: Iam goodril
Me: Just be a bad girl for tonight then and come out haha I won't tell

Then I decided to pull back a little to show I was going to be done with it and get her to worry this game might be over and act. I think this is where I fucked up. A better response would have been "if you were a really good girl you wouldn't still be talking to me" and see where that went. I feel like I kind of had her wondering to go out and then lost it.

me: I won't push you. Enjoy your night with your friends. Nice to meet you.
Her: 哈哈哈 笑死我了 Ha ha ha killing me
(Response sent before my I won't push you, it was positive, regret felt here)
Her: sorry
Her: hahahaha
Her: you are good boy (fuck!)
Me: Not really... I'm in the middle
Me: I'm also really bored my friend is leaving me tonight he go back to USA (grasping for straws since I shot myself in the foot)
Her: You life in china
me: no I'm working here for 6 months though

Pretty much it. Still a game newbie, felt a little uncomfortable pushing her but decided to do it since I really had nothing to lose. It was a little awkward at first. I def wouldn't have been able to pull this off in person so smoothly like I did in the beginning, just ain't used to that yet. I feel like I had her going more than I thought an I didn't want to push her too hard... Then I got my positive reaction after i pulled away (shit!!) and she saw the pull away and lost interest. Who knows maybe she wasn't into it but this girl was giving me loads of IOI, giggling incessantly while I was talking with her and getting her wechat. Walked her friends by me on the way out they all said hi. (Friends were cute too. Maybe I should ask for her friends contact info?) her having a boyfriend? The way she was reacting I never would have guessed it, thought I had this one in the bag. I think I lost it after pulling back.

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(05-16-2015 07:08 PM)Jetlagged Wrote:  I feel like I had one in the bag here and screwed it up. Picked up a cute girl and her sister after approaching at a restaurant (she hit me with "hi" already after prolonged eye contact after walking by") so the opener was easy.

Here's how it went down.

Me: Hey
Her: we are comeback school
Her: i don't speak english?
Me: How long will you be in zhaoqing?
Her: Tomorrow
Me: You're leaving tomorrow?
Her: yes my school is in gaungzhou
Her: Iam come my friends school
Me: Oh. That's no fun. What are you doing tonight?
Her: With my F
Me: Are you going out somewhere? Maybe I can meet you (really need to delete maybe from my vocabulary)
Her: No.
Her: 跟好朋友聊天 Chat with friends
Me: Sounds boring. you should come meet me somewhere.
Her: no i have a BF
Her: i promise his
Me: Oh. Too bad.
Her: Iam goodril
Me: Just be a bad girl for tonight then and come out haha I won't tell

Then I decided to pull back a little to show I was going to be done with it and get her to worry this game might be over and act. I think this is where I fucked up. A better response would have been "if you were a really good girl you wouldn't still be talking to me" and see where that went. I feel like I kind of had her wondering to go out and then lost it.

me: I won't push you. Enjoy your night with your friends. Nice to meet you.
Her: 哈哈哈 笑死我了 Ha ha ha killing me
(Response sent before my I won't push you, it was positive, regret felt here)
Her: sorry
Her: hahahaha
Her: you are good boy (fuck!)
Me: Not really... I'm in the middle
Me: I'm also really bored my friend is leaving me tonight he go back to USA (grasping for straws since I shot myself in the foot)
Her: You life in china
me: no I'm working here for 6 months though

Pretty much it. Still a game newbie, felt a little uncomfortable pushing her but decided to do it since I really had nothing to lose. It was a little awkward at first. I def wouldn't have been able to pull this off in person so smoothly like I did in the beginning, just ain't used to that yet. I feel like I had her going more than I thought an I didn't want to push her too hard... Then I got my positive reaction after i pulled away (shit!!) and she saw the pull away and lost interest. Who knows maybe she wasn't into it but this girl was giving me loads of IOI, giggling incessantly while I was talking with her and getting her wechat. Walked her friends by me on the way out they all said hi. (Friends were cute too. Maybe I should ask for her friends contact info?) her having a boyfriend? The way she was reacting I never would have guessed it, thought I had this one in the bag. I think I lost it after pulling back.

Game review?

Two questions: Is this a we chat log, or is this a real conversation? Are you talking in mandarin or half chinese half english?

Her giving you prolonged eye contact is very strong interest, most asian girls are shy about eye contact. She also asked you if you live in China which is definite interest. Most girls there are LTR minded and if you say you're only staying for 6 months that will be a deal-breaker. Just say yes, and if she brings up how long you're staying, just say you're staying long term, and don't know when you'll leave.

She was with friends, don't make her seem too much like a bad girl in front of her friends, she will have to reject you just to save face and not be that girl in her circle who can be picked up after 10 minutes after meeting a total stranger. She probably does have a BF, but is attracted to you, but because her friends were there she needs to bring it up so that she isn't labeled a slut. Get her we chat and set something up from there.

Group mentality is a lot stronger in Chinese culture than in western culture. If you had engaged the whole friend group and come off as a friendly cool guy, in my experience one her friends will notice the tension between you and her, and be like "hey you guys should go out sometime!". She will blush and give a neutral or pretending not to care reaction, but that's a good sign. All her friends will be talking you up and how she has to meet with you because you guys definitely had something going on.

If I were you I would have gotten her we chat, and then set up something where you bring out your bros and she brings out all her friends, and go out to karaoke or go to a bar to play drinking games. That way even if she's serious about her BF, you still have access to all her cute friends. Game in China generally takes longer than in America to close.

There is an ocean of girls waiting for you, craving you, waiting for you to approach them.
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EDTF,

This is a wechat log. I speak absolutely no mandarin at all other than the basic few words everyone should know. She actually has decent English.

Approach was quick since it was at a buffet and we both up at it. Couple of hey, where are you from, is that your sister... You are cute give me your we chat. This log is what followed after that.

s she was leaving with her friends they all eyefucked me on the way out and said hi. She's leaving for Guangzhou tomorrow which is out of range for me as my work schedule is 60+ hours a week out here and Sunday is my only day off. I get 4 days off on Thursday I may hit gaungzhou or zhuhai downtown and try to game. But it's super tough out here with no mandarin at all. Super super tough.

It's too bad because I get a lot of attention from girls here in china. I get girls coming up to me asking for wechat and even got a note at my place where I work. If I spoke mandarin I feel like I could kill it here.
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(05-16-2015 10:08 PM)Jetlagged Wrote:  If I spoke mandarin I feel like I could kill it here.

It's nice when your dating pool goes from 10,000 to 1,000,000.

"I can count on one hand, literally, the number of women I have ever met that can take that kind of advice, accept it and make use of it without their epic egos setting metaphorical fire to the conversation.

Most women "looking for advice" are in reality looking for someone to validate their cosmic victimhood, because it's not really their fault, because it's never their fault. This behavioural trait isn't absent among men, but when we fail society cares not, while when women fail there is no shortage of comforting platitudes on offer from every vector.
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Double.
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Went to watch a car race at Guangzhou international circuit today. Figured it would be a good place to see some girls and get some approaches in while watching the race.

Primarily though, I was there for the cars. I absolutely love racing and every time I go to the track (quite often) I get upset I didn't go to college and pursue becoming a race engineer. Saw a couple white dudes out there tuning engines and managing and I get insanely jealous. Travel around the world and work as a team to kick ass on the track. I love the feeling the culture.


Long story short, my inner game faltered today. I'm a shorter guy at 5' 7" and it's really eating me up on the inside the last few years. I know there's nothing I can do about it. I always think about how different everything would be if I was just 5-6 inches taller. I've made progress in putting it behind me, but today it ate me alive.

The race series is Korean, and of course there were Korean girls modeling just like you see at the car shows. Some of these girls are auper hot but a lot of them are just good at puttin on makeup. But wow. These girls are tall man. I felt totally diminished next to these girls. I don't think I got any eye contact from any of them, even after they were walking around in normal clothes. I didn't pay an obvious amount of attention to them as they were being mobbed by Chinese dudes, but damn. These girls were easily 6 1, 6 2, and possibly even 6 3 in heels. I felt like a kid next to them. I'm decently built, not huge or anything, but I felt like I had nothing to offer these girls. That wrecked my inner game bad. Fucked up my mood and ended up going on no approaches. I didn't get mch eye contact throughout the day and I'm not sure I was even looking for it. I started to feel a little better after awhile, trying to rush it aside and pep back up. Passing through a hallway I caught long stare from a Chinese cutie, when I turned to follow I got blocked for not having proper badge access to the area. Shit.

I meandered around for awhile after the eve was over, it was borderline drizzly all day. Thought about approaching a set of two, wasn't getting any eye contact and I a got bitch vibe off 1 girl, the other one was cute though. Didn't get any IOIs from them, decided to pass. AA welling up inside again.

The racing was pretty much over except for a few smaller cup style cars, so I started heading towards the exit. My mood was kind of shit as I didn't do any approaches. I got very little eye contact but caught a few of them (including a starting grid Chinese model as she was walking by) looking. One solid eyefuck only today. I also somehow passed on a girl that returned my smile after some brief eye contact... Face was ok, after she passed I saw her great ass in booty shorts and regretted not jumping.

On the way out the last race was going on, and there's an extrance bridge over the track that cars drive in and out of on. It's a great spot to watch the race and it's right on the way out. Missed opportunity booty shorts was seen here. I posted up and watched the race unfold, and saw two potentials coming up the hill towards me in high heels.

Kept my attention on the track but watched them out of the corner of my eye. Suddenly, I felt a pinch. Damn. The hell was that? The girls are walking closer... They seem decent enough. This might be redemption.

Pinch again... This time followed by another. What the fuck?! I look down at my feet and it's covered in small ants and they proceed to tear my ass up. It doesn't hurt too bad but it itches like crazy. Girls are almost on me now. I step out of the ant hill and brich off as much as I can, I look up and they're looking at me, I smile, and manage to pull out a nihao. They smile back and nihao as well. Good eye contact, slight giggles. They keep going by me. Asses look pretty good. Both are solid 5.5-6. I decide to pursue and change my luck for today.

I meet them up on the bridge a little further up. Post up next to them, smile. Ask if they speak English... They speak to me back in Chinese. Fuck. ok, wechat has a translate function. I pull out the phone and ask them if they wechat so we can add each other... But alas, they don't have it. They talk to each other and the taller cuter one pulls out her phone and starts dailing. She gives me her number, and I give her a missed call. Nice. Kind of a ware because we can't talk, but it's my first Chinese number. I say thank you and they start to walk out. I try to walk back in, security guard who was there nearby during the whole incident doesn't let me back in. The fuck? I look back and the girls aren't far away. I decide to continue with them since homeboy ain't letting me in for whatever reason.

I go back after them and we continue to try to talk but we can't get anything across. I finally pull up google translate and tell them I don't know how to get back to my hotel from here. More Chinese follows, but this time I catch enough words to understand what they are asking. I show them my room key with hotel name on it. They say oh, and point to themselves like they stay there. My eyes light up. No way, my luck is never this good. They point to a moti and motion like they will come with me.

Pause.

For those of you who don't know what a moti/modi however you spell it is, it's basically a small motorcycle taxi. Dudes wait around and drive people on the back just like a taxi, but on a moped. I never rode bitch to another man in my life and i didn plan to start.

I laugh and motion no with my hands... They laugh and point at the car nearby and driving motion with hands. I say yes.. They give me this motion which I take as I will pay, I say yes.
They start walking I follow.

At this point I start second guessing agreeing to pay, but I suppose it's the right deal since I'm refusing the first mode of transportation.

After 2-3 min of walking, we come to the street. More motis are rolling by and pull up. Great I think. The girls start talking and point to them again. I laugh and everyone starts laughing. Fuck it.

I hop the back and put my umbrella on my lap with one hand and hold onto homies shoulder on the other. Girls hop on another bike and we take off.

I smiled the whole way. It was pretty fun. Couple times I slid around a little but nothing wild. It felt good to have your wind in the hair. Girls pass my and wave us on. At this point I'm looking at tthem and it crosses my mind. These might be pros. They are decked out dressed up in heels at the track. It ain't smooth out there. I'm not paying tonight but I'm on a dry streak here and desperately hoping they aren't pros.

Finally we hit the hotel area and they drop us off. Girls get off and talk to the drivers. Wallet comes out and she pays. I try to but in and pay my guy but she refuses. This helps calms my pro worries, I've had a bit of experience and they would never pay.

So now I'm walking with this two girls back to the hotel and I'm feeling good. Both are in great shape, faces are decent but the bodies are on point. I'm like today might not be so bad after all. We arrive in front of the hotel.

They point to the hotel and then point to me. I'm like yeah this is it. "Ok". So they point for me to go and smile. This is when it dawns on me, they just live in the area they arent staying in this hotel. They are trying to leave. Fuck.

I point to them and point to the hotel, as if to say come inside. And she makes a motion with her hand like go upstairs to my room. I laugh. I fumbled here. Mind hits two different speeds.
She's asking if I want them to come up to my room, and her face isn't exactly implying like she's thrilled about it, but then again she doesn't seem upset.

If I say yes, they're gonna think I think they are pros.
But this is a perfect setup.

I decide that it's best to skip saying yes and offer lunch instead since I'm starving.

I tell her no, and then make an eating motion with my hand and point to them. They look confused. Break out google translate again.

I put in "what are you doing tonight? I'm alone here with nothing to do". They look confused. I re type "come for dinner or drinks tonight? Play dice (common game in china)" they look at me and say no. I give them a sad face, they laugh. I say ok, and I walk back to my hotel, alone and confused.

I don't know how, but I'm in my bed alone and still horny as shit. I thought this was going to go at least a little further than that.

Maybe I should have asked them to come up to my room, but if they didn't even want to hang out later, maybe I saved myself from offending them. Who knows, maybe they were game. Communication gap killed me here.

Starting to wonder if all this eye contact and wechat swapping is just curiosity I'm mistaking for interest. This other guy here for a rival company is taller, blonde hair and blue eyes and claims to be getting multiple ONS And they're coming up to him. I feel like I gotta have a shot here despite lacking those features but I start to wonder what's up
With me if he's getting bangs without even trying. Even his older, fatter coworker is killing some pretty hot ass. Shit is eatin my self confidence.

Gotta stay out of my old thought patterns. I have to keep my confidence up and shrug it off. If I can't take failure I won't get far with my approaches, I have to frame them differently and not let them eat at my confidence and start wondering what's wrong with me. That's what got me in this super dry streak to begin with.

Charge it to the game I guess.
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(05-17-2015 04:33 AM)Jetlagged Wrote:  Gotta stay out of my old thought patterns. I have to keep my confidence up and shrug it off. If I can't take failure I won't get far with my approaches, I have to frame them differently and not let them eat at my confidence and start wondering what's wrong with me. That's what got me in this super dry streak to begin with.

Charge it to the game I guess.

I agree with what you wrote above, but mostly only in regard to the main first section of your post. As for the end, I thought you did great. You pushed past multiple obstacles and hell, you started the approach dejected and literally getting your ass eaten alive by ants.

You got past multiple obstacles and the entire time dealing with a severe communication limitation.

That's cool about the race car stuff. Maybe you should get into racing on a volunteer basis for a low level series/team. No reason you couldn't be involved at some level and maybe it would help build your confidence outside of the pick up arena.

I know someone who is not much over 5' who is a national champion as well as a multiple world record holder who people hold in very high esteem and who women love. He's not rich, not super handsome, but is a happy, confident guy.

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I matched a girl in tinder I used to go to 10th grade together. Russian, ballerina, really good looking, I remember her being 9. Ok its been 10 years now but she still looks very good in her pictures. Back then I would not have had a chance with her( I did try) but now after chatting couple of hours to her she asked to get together tomorrow evening for a drinkBanana. One thing is worrying me in the light of the recent Instagram news though is that she said that she lived in Dubai recently for a while....
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(05-18-2015 03:33 PM)evilhei Wrote:  I matched a girl in tinder I used to go to 10th grade together. Russian, ballerina, really good looking, I remember her being 9. Ok its been 10 years now but she still looks very good in her pictures. Back then I would not have had a chance with her( I did try) but now after chatting couple of hours to her she asked to get together tomorrow evening for a drinkBanana. One thing is worrying me in the light of the recent Instagram news though is that she said that she lived in Dubai recently for a while....

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Here's a quick way and easy way I got my girl into filming sex.

I was laying in bed with her naked and told her I was going to draw something on her ass with a sharpie. I drew a smiley face, then whipped out my phone to take a picture. Then I took a video of me jigging her ass. The smiley face looks like it's laughing. She thinks it's funny so I stick a finger in her pussy while the camera is still going. She notices I'm still filming. I keep fingering her for a while then flip her over and start fucking her while filming it. Then she starts getting really into it.

Now she won't stop talking about filming sex.
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(05-18-2015 04:41 PM)kaotic Wrote:  
(05-18-2015 03:33 PM)evilhei Wrote:  I matched a girl in tinder I used to go to 10th grade together. Russian, ballerina, really good looking, I remember her being 9. Ok its been 10 years now but she still looks very good in her pictures. Back then I would not have had a chance with her( I did try) but now after chatting couple of hours to her she asked to get together tomorrow evening for a drinkBanana. One thing is worrying me in the light of the recent Instagram news though is that she said that she lived in Dubai recently for a while....

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(05-18-2015 10:05 PM)Ingocnito Wrote:  Do the shit stain test.

You know, being the curious Charlie I am I searched shit stain test on roosh v.

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Found this gem

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(05-18-2015 01:58 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  
(05-17-2015 04:33 AM)Jetlagged Wrote:  Gotta stay out of my old thought patterns. I have to keep my confidence up and shrug it off. If I can't take failure I won't get far with my approaches, I have to frame them differently and not let them eat at my confidence and start wondering what's wrong with me. That's what got me in this super dry streak to begin with.

Charge it to the game I guess.

I agree with what you wrote above, but mostly only in regard to the main first section of your post. As for the end, I thought you did great. You pushed past multiple obstacles and hell, you started the approach dejected and literally getting your ass eaten alive by ants.

You got past multiple obstacles and the entire time dealing with a severe communication limitation.

That's cool about the race car stuff. Maybe you should get into racing on a volunteer basis for a low level series/team. No reason you couldn't be involved at some level and maybe it would help build your confidence outside of the pick up arena.

I know someone who is not much over 5' who is a national champion as well as a multiple world record holder who people hold in very high esteem and who women love. He's not rich, not super handsome, but is a happy, confident guy.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm working hard on my inner game. China is easy mode the girls here are so approachable and I have DHV off rip plus WGF so approaches are super easy. I have to follow through with this at home now.

I would like get more into racing, I built a semi track civic with intentions to race but racing is big money. I started saving for a house/condo instead. I toyed with the idea of volunteering for race teams and such, but my job is very demanding and I travel for long periods. It's very time consuming but yet very rewarding, and has brought me to 8 different countries in seven years as well as making decent money despite not having a college education. Well see what the future brings.
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I posted this article in the newbie forum, but there are a lot of game insights in it so I want to share here.

http://www.goodlookingloser.com/entry/get-laid/pua-scam

Even if you don't agree with all of Chris' gameplan (I don't) this article will definitely make you think about the game at large.

I also came away with more respect for all the guys here. We're certainly not wasting our time kiss closing.

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Thanks Gio for that recent post.
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Any tips fella's for getting a girl to stop talking during sex?
I've got this 19 year old plate and unless she's sucking it or I'm sticking it in her (in which case shes moaning) she just keeps blabbing.
Outside of sex I just phase it out and let her prattle on but it bugs me during sex.
If it was dirty talk it would be great but it's not, it's bullshit about her friends or uni. I find it really distracting.
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(05-21-2015 02:33 AM)Roardog Wrote:  Any tips fella's for getting a girl to stop talking during sex?
I've got this 19 year old plate and unless she's sucking it or I'm sticking it in her (in which case shes moaning) she just keeps blabbing.
Outside of sex I just phase it out and let her prattle on but it bugs me during sex.
If it was dirty talk it would be great but it's not, it's bullshit about her friends or uni. I find it really distracting.

So she's just casually blabbing on while you rail her? You're not railing her well enough that she can still talk. Choke her, kiss her, or put your dick in her mouth. Or just slam it harder.

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(05-21-2015 07:29 AM)swuglyfe Wrote:  
(05-21-2015 02:33 AM)Roardog Wrote:  Any tips fella's for getting a girl to stop talking during sex?
I've got this 19 year old plate and unless she's sucking it or I'm sticking it in her (in which case shes moaning) she just keeps blabbing.
Outside of sex I just phase it out and let her prattle on but it bugs me during sex.
If it was dirty talk it would be great but it's not, it's bullshit about her friends or uni. I find it really distracting.

So she's just casually blabbing on while you rail her? You're not railing her well enough that she can still talk. Choke her, kiss her, or put your dick in her mouth. Or just slam it harder.

Even better- cover her mouth while you choke her.

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(05-21-2015 07:29 AM)swuglyfe Wrote:  
(05-21-2015 02:33 AM)Roardog Wrote:  Any tips fella's for getting a girl to stop talking during sex?
I've got this 19 year old plate and unless she's sucking it or I'm sticking it in her (in which case shes moaning) she just keeps blabbing.
Outside of sex I just phase it out and let her prattle on but it bugs me during sex.
If it was dirty talk it would be great but it's not, it's bullshit about her friends or uni. I find it really distracting.

So she's just casually blabbing on while you rail her? You're not railing her well enough that she can still talk. Choke her, kiss her, or put your dick in her mouth. Or just slam it harder.

She doesn't blab while I rail her. Just during the lead up. She will literally stop kissing me or blowing me so that she can blab something inane. I've not come across this kind of behavior before and it's putting off my frame.
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(05-21-2015 06:23 PM)Roardog Wrote:  
(05-21-2015 07:29 AM)swuglyfe Wrote:  
(05-21-2015 02:33 AM)Roardog Wrote:  Any tips fella's for getting a girl to stop talking during sex?
I've got this 19 year old plate and unless she's sucking it or I'm sticking it in her (in which case shes moaning) she just keeps blabbing.
Outside of sex I just phase it out and let her prattle on but it bugs me during sex.
If it was dirty talk it would be great but it's not, it's bullshit about her friends or uni. I find it really distracting.

So she's just casually blabbing on while you rail her? You're not railing her well enough that she can still talk. Choke her, kiss her, or put your dick in her mouth. Or just slam it harder.

She doesn't blab while I rail her. Just during the lead up. She will literally stop kissing me or blowing me so that she can blab something inane. I've not come across this kind of behavior before and it's putting off my frame.

Take the temperature of the room on this one, but if you've been building up dominance for a while now with choking and spanking, etc, it might not be out of the question for you to lightly slap her across the face and tell her to shut up, then resume kissing.

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Quote:Vaun Wrote:
Quote:Goldmund Wrote:
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This was used a lot when I was young and really into the underground scene. I would invite girls to come back to listen to Fugazi records.
This is the first time in recorded history that Fugazi was used to remove panties.
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So I have a meet tonight with this chick.

I believe she'd be DTF if the right circumstances presented themselves, but there's a logistical problem because mine are currently crap and she lives in Queens, we're meeting in Midtown.

How would you guys navigate this? We all know that traveling for a long time will kill sexualized moods.

Worst comes to worst my plan is to just basically turn up what I've already done and meet her in her own neighborhood next time.

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As I read that, some of your posts prior relating to the same girl - you did a good job of DHV and hard impact so sounds like she is already good to go. I'd say:

- 75% foolproof bang: research a intimate, cozy bar near her place with inexpensive drinks. Play up the 'dive bar' factor. When you show up key is to be in the same state as when you initially met to remind her of the frame. Coupe drinks, escalate to shoulder rub and suggest 3rd drink back at her place

- 90% foolproof bang - if logistics are shit - then airbnb depending on how much you want to ensure the bang. Cost of heading to queens and back and drinks probably 50% of the amount airbnb would be for solo night. And obviously the queens girl wants to head to manhattan on the 3 day weekend. If you get the airbnb then follow first-date-tut game, or if you are super confident she won't flake, blurred 7 Zero date bang recipe. After bang let her know you have to volunteer at some 'xxxx' son she bounces before you are charged a second night
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How young is too young? Banged a 17 year old virgin(age of consent in state) she turns 18 in a month. She originally told me she was in college so I assumed she was older but then when we get to my place she says she is starting college and just graduated highschool and she was a 17 year old virgin, up in air if I should see her again. Busted her cherry. I'm 24.
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(05-22-2015 03:37 PM)gamebreaker32 Wrote:  How young is too young? Banged a 17 year old virgin(age of consent in state) she turns 18 in a month. She originally told me she was in college so I assumed she was older but then when we get to my place she says she is starting college and just graduated highschool and she was a 17 year old virgin, up in air if I should see her again. Busted her cherry. I'm 24.

I recommend you avoid this topic here as it breaks one of the forum rules:

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I'm 20 but I have a strict no under 18 rule. 18 is a legal adult all over the world so there's never any risk.
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