(06-06-2017 02:01 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Something I was thinking about the other day. The manosphere generally recommends that in order to be more successful at game, you need to maximize your looks and style, as well as lift. So ideally, a guy who has good facial hair, is jacked, and dresses well will get the most pussy (provided he's got good game etc. etc.) I'm not saying you shouldn't strive for these things, because they are definitely important and are great for your confidence.

Yet what I'm seeing in daily life doesn't really confirm this lol. I'm seeing average guys with average looks and average builds consistently getting hotter girls. Now, I should add that I live in the suburbs of New England, so maybe that's a factor. I don't know. But this is what I've witnessed. And I think I've come to a conclusion: most girls, and I'm gonna stress most, want a non-threatening guy. The problem with looking your best and dressing up is you're putting girls on the defensive about their self-worth, even if said girl is a 9. I really tried to choose my words carefully here because I think some guys will interpret this as "game denialism" or something. But I'm just confirming what I see. I will continue working out and focusing on self-improvement for sure, but I think I am at the point where I know that it's for me only, and will have a minimal impact on my game.

I think you are seeing them out in public with their beta boyfriends. I think most women go through periods when they are monogamous with their beta guys, and periods when they are either cheating, or are single, and are getting banged out by the hottest guys they can get ahold of. If beta guy hits up a girl in one of these phases, she'll make him wait, and probably bang her FWB until she's made the beta wait long enough. I bet when she has that threesome to check off her bucket list, it's not with one of her beta boyfriends.

I'd agree I see a lot of soft looking guys with fuckable girlfriends, but I think this is just the AF/BB dynamic playing out.

Those dudes make me cringe, not even fucking dress shoes man.

(06-06-2017 02:01 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Something I was thinking about the other day. The manosphere generally recommends that in order to be more successful at game, you need to maximize your looks and style, as well as lift. So ideally, a guy who has good facial hair, is jacked, and dresses well will get the most pussy (provided he's got good game etc. etc.) I'm not saying you shouldn't strive for these things, because they are definitely important and are great for your confidence.

Yet what I'm seeing in daily life doesn't really confirm this lol. I'm seeing average guys with average looks and average builds consistently getting hotter girls. Now, I should add that I live in the suburbs of New England, so maybe that's a factor. I don't know. But this is what I've witnessed.

What makes you so sure that he is "getting" her?

From what we know, that beta guy you see with a hot girl is just getting played into paying for expensive dates or shopping.

From what we know, that girl has the beta guy believe he will eventually get something out of her, while banging alpha dudes on the regular. She has a large pool of individuals, some of them alpha/desirable ready to fuck her within 15 minutes whenever she chooses. Why else would she need a beta dude for? To hear her complaints? There are other beta dudes just as willing to do that. NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE THIRST. Anything any woman, be her a hot woman or a fat cow, could ever desire, there will always be some dude willing to give it to her. Many of them wont even require some favor in return, just because white knighting makes them feel valuable.

That is what we know.

Quote: And I think I've come to a conclusion: most girls, and I'm gonna stress most, want a non-threatening guy.

No. What most women want is a man they can handle. A worshiper. What they all desire is the asshole bad guy alpha fuck type. What most can handle is the low T, low maintenance, low sex drive beta buck. With the alpha she has to be her best at all times, unless she wants to find out how easily replaceable she really is. With the beta guy she can get ALL the benefits of a monogamous relationship and STILL be fucked on a regular basis by a more desirable guy. There are no consequences to her bad choices.

All men want young, hot, feminine willing wanton women, yet, all most manage is churning sperm from a second hand pussy every once in a while.

Thats the game folks. Why should we care what beta guys get, anyways? The red pill is out there and its free. Its the bitterness of it what most guys cant stomach.

(06-06-2017 07:15 PM)germanico Wrote:  What makes you so sure that he is "getting" her?

From what we know, that beta guy you see with a hot girl is just getting played into paying for expensive dates or shopping.

I'm not sure at all. However, I think your post reeks of the manosphere cynicism about real-life relationships. For one, I don't think most girls cheat on their bf's, regardless of whether or not he is a beta. So if I see one of these guys on the street with a hot girl, I'm gonna assume he's fucking her. Maybe not 3 times a day, and maybe she doesn't deepthroat him - but he is getting a taste of that pussy one way or another.

All he is getting is a bone thrown at every once in a while. Im not saying he is not getting any, all Im saying is that she is the only one getting it her way.

Let's take time out and remind ourselves to not forget #TheGreatestGeneration as more and more WWII Veterans continue to vanish each year due to old age.

It certainly lends some perspective to what we call "war" now which largely involves low resistance occupations broken up by drone and bomb warfare or patrols occasioning skirmishes.

Not to downplay the trauma of your convoy getting hit by an IED and then slogging through a firefight in some dusty shit-hole, but the days of national flags pushing back lines on a map that sit in front of other national flags seem to be long gone.

We can count that as a blessing. Our soldiers are lost by the dozen rather than the thousand.

As for Tigermandingo's observation there may be something to it. Rough job markets and the cat-laden outcomes of last generation's feminists could well be driving a few quality women into the arms of some fairly tame guys. Whether they stay there is another question. In any case, the alpha looking for notches doesn't want her hanging off of him like an anchor anyway so it's no big loss. Plenty of fish in the sea. And the other posters are right in regards to his sex life. Awkward starfish "can you cum, babe?" once a week. I think most of the guys here would rather slice their dick with copy paper and dip it in vinegar than suffer that indignity.

Time will tell whether their ovaries drive them into the arms of a cave man, if only to get pregnant to someone who's genes haven't been utterly domesticated. We here are well aware of what primal instinct do to a woman's rationale, and it's not like Herb would dare ask for a DNA test.

(06-06-2017 02:01 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Something I was thinking about the other day. The manosphere generally recommends that in order to be more successful at game, you need to maximize your looks and style, as well as lift. So ideally, a guy who has good facial hair, is jacked, and dresses well will get the most pussy (provided he's got good game etc. etc.) I'm not saying you shouldn't strive for these things, because they are definitely important and are great for your confidence.

Yet what I'm seeing in daily life doesn't really confirm this lol. I'm seeing average guys with average looks and average builds consistently getting hotter girls. Now, I should add that I live in the suburbs of New England, so maybe that's a factor. I don't know. But this is what I've witnessed. And I think I've come to a conclusion: most girls, and I'm gonna stress most, want a non-threatening guy. The problem with looking your best and dressing up is you're putting girls on the defensive about their self-worth, even if said girl is a 9. I really tried to choose my words carefully here because I think some guys will interpret this as "game denialism" or something. But I'm just confirming what I see. I will continue working out and focusing on self-improvement for sure, but I think I am at the point where I know that it's for me only, and will have a minimal impact on my game.

New Game: Be non-threatening - that will get you pussy galore!

All the Beta Nice guys are all non-threatening, they are so non-threatening that a girl will let you do her pubes and still not fuck you:



Couples one sees in the wild in casual gear do not convey is going on in their life or what made her attracted to him.

Looks. Money. Status.

(06-07-2017 02:01 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  New Game: Be non-threatening - that will get you pussy galore!

All the Beta Nice guys are all non-threatening, they are so non-threatening that a girl will let you do her pubes and still not fuck you:

Believe it or not, that is what I see. I think the reason for it is women no longer need protection and security from men, so all the characteristics that go along with masculinity aren't that important anymore (speaking for the West here).

By all means do it for yourself, but it is no longer the case that a girl gets wet over a guy with a Viking beard and huge biceps.

Lost my password and couldn't log in for a while, decided to take a break anyway. Realized quickly that there is no other forum or social media on the internet even remotely as interesting as this forum.

I was going to post this in the players lounge but since y'all talking about game I'm going to drop it here for greater exposure.

Me: Online Cattle Rustler, if you read the Private SA thread...you know my persona details.
Where: Cocktail bar
Who: Latina MILF in a cocktail dress and stilettos, extremely into fitness and fine legs/thighs. 7/10?
Situation so far: Meeting for drinks, surprisingly tells me last minute she can't drink but she waited to eat. She's keeping a strict diet (written down) and her meal was actually less than two drinks, so I came out ahead I guess. Responsive to kino, and DTF....but I had other things going on and had to close another day.

Near the end of the drinks session. She mentioned: "That site sucks, All I see are guys making 12/hr or driving forklifts...with a HS diploma. I have a bachelors and am a therapist. How am I supposed to go around to my family with that?"

Me: "Well that's what I'm thinking about you. What do you have?"

MILF: "Well lets go somewhere else for another drink and find out"

Me: "You're not getting it...I'm 30, no kids, run my biz at 250K+ a year, Grad degree from a top school...what am I supposed to be doing with woman who has two kids in HS at 36, works, and barely has a bachelors? I mean, you make like 50K. Right?"

It's like someone ran over her or no one talked to her like that before, her mouth was wide open for a couple of seconds. Needless to say she was still receptive to my kino...but didn't reply to my texts afterwards. I made up an excuse about a family emergency and she didn't believe it....not that I cared whether she believed me or not.

I only put her in her place because:

1 - She thought her shit didn't stink.
1b- She thought she deserved Chad Thundercock or Latin Lover but needed a dose of reality.
2 - Making snarky comments on what I said (earlier) isn't taken lightly, especially from a bitch. You can laugh with me, but not at me.

(06-07-2017 10:34 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  ...Believe it or not, that is what I see. I think the reason for it is women no longer need protection and security from men, so all the characteristics that go along with masculinity aren't that important anymore (speaking for the West here).

By all means do it for yourself, but it is no longer the case that a girl gets wet over a guy with a Viking beard and huge biceps.

Maybe where you live.

But in general the instinctual impulses of thousands of years of genetic selection are not swept aside by mere circumstance, especially when it comes to female behaviour.

Are you ripped or skinny like these dudes? Are you getting pussy in the same region?

(06-07-2017 02:32 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I was going to post this in the players lounge but since y'all talking about game I'm going to drop it here for greater exposure.

Me: Online Cattle Rustler, if you read the Private SA thread...you know my persona details.
Where: Cocktail bar
Who: Latina MILF in a cocktail dress and stilettos, extremely into fitness and fine legs/thighs. 7/10?
Situation so far: Meeting for drinks, surprisingly tells me last minute she can't drink but she waited to eat. She's keeping a strict diet (written down) and her meal was actually less than two drinks, so I came out ahead I guess. Responsive to kino, and DTF....but I had other things going on and had to close another day.

Near the end of the drinks session. She mentioned: "That site sucks, All I see are guys making 12/hr or driving forklifts...with a HS diploma. I have a bachelors and am a therapist. How am I supposed to go around to my family with that?"

Me: "Well that's what I'm thinking about you. What do you have?"

MILF: "Well lets go somewhere else for another drink and find out"

Me: "You're not getting it...I'm 30, no kids, run my biz at 250K+ a year, Grad degree from a top school...what am I supposed to be doing with woman who has two kids in HS at 36, works, and barely has a bachelors? I mean, you make like 50K. Right?"

It's like someone ran over her or no one talked to her like that before, her mouth was wide open for a couple of seconds. Needless to say she was still receptive to my kino...but didn't reply to my texts afterwards. I made up an excuse about a family emergency and she didn't believe it....not that I cared whether she believed me or not.

I only put her in her place because:

1 - She thought her shit didn't stink.
1b- She thought she deserved Chad Thundercock or Latin Lover but needed a dose of reality.
2 - Making snarky comments on what I said (earlier) isn't taken lightly, especially from a bitch. You can laugh with me, but not at me.

Cattle Rustlers always be rustling something.

(06-07-2017 09:33 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Are you ripped or skinny like these dudes? Are you getting pussy in the same region?

Lean-ripped, not that it has helped me with pussy anyway. I get some here and there, enough to satiate my thirst LOL.

My biggest problem is my face, I look middle-eastern, have deep-set eyes and have been told that I look "creepy" haha. I'm not using that as an excuse for why I haven't succeeded as much as I should have, but that has probably been an impediment. I've found that standing out from the crowd is actually a negative when it comes to game.

The hottest white bitches here go for the Justin Bieber-looking dudes a lot of the time.When they see me, they think I'm bout to cause a ruckus

(06-06-2017 02:01 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Something I was thinking about the other day. The manosphere generally recommends that in order to be more successful at game, you need to maximize your looks and style, as well as lift. So ideally, a guy who has good facial hair, is jacked, and dresses well will get the most pussy (provided he's got good game etc. etc.) I'm not saying you shouldn't strive for these things, because they are definitely important and are great for your confidence.

Yet what I'm seeing in daily life doesn't really confirm this lol. I'm seeing average guys with average looks and average builds consistently getting hotter girls. Now, I should add that I live in the suburbs of New England, so maybe that's a factor. I don't know. But this is what I've witnessed. And I think I've come to a conclusion: most girls, and I'm gonna stress most, want a non-threatening guy. The problem with looking your best and dressing up is you're putting girls on the defensive about their self-worth, even if said girl is a 9. I really tried to choose my words carefully here because I think some guys will interpret this as "game denialism" or something. But I'm just confirming what I see. I will continue working out and focusing on self-improvement for sure, but I think I am at the point where I know that it's for me only, and will have a minimal impact on my game.

How do you know those guys are banging those girls?

I am sure some of them do, but don't discount the sexless relationships and how common they are today, exactly because girls want non-threathening.

Girls in Europe are selecting from two things and two things only now in who they choose as fathers (more accurately sperm donors): Height and Intelligence.

Manosphere operates on faulty logic of American frat culture in college.

In reality, girls now select HARD for height and intelligence. They even seem to prefer being otherwise average.

Then onwards 5-7 years and he is out the door and onto the market again.

I don't see average guys doing great, except with some subsets of society such as overeducated feminists.

Further in kebabically-challenged Poland:

(06-08-2017 12:20 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  How do you know those guys are banging those girls?

haha I don't, but it's safe to assume that they're not just going out for ice cream all the time.

I know it goes against the dictums of the manosphere, because we're so focused on self-improvement and how it will attract the hottest girls (with game) but that's just not what I'm seeing here. Just the other day I was at a coffee shop near Yale University and I saw some couples on dates. The guys were chubby and disheveled; the girls were slim with beautiful faces.

If anything, this is a good development. It means Western bitches are finally beginning to lower their standards

(06-08-2017 06:58 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 12:20 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  How do you know those guys are banging those girls?

haha I don't, but it's safe to assume that they're not just going out for ice cream all the time.

I know it goes against the dictums of the manosphere, because we're so focused on self-improvement and how it will attract the hottest girls (with game) but that's just not what I'm seeing here. Just the other day I was at a coffee shop near Yale University and I saw some couples on dates. The guys were chubby and disheveled; the girls were slim with beautiful faces.

If anything, this is a good development. It means Western bitches are finally beginning to lower their standards

I think that is a tip in the right direction.

Also another thing - in times of challenging economic activity, depression, decreasing standards of living etc. - then women do go for the Beta Bucks, even for the Silver-Copper-Stability-Beta-Bucks far earlier than in other times. If the government ever got broke, then boy would you ever see the early dutiful married woman come roaring back. Women would have to do that just to survive.

(06-08-2017 07:03 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Also another thing - in times of challenging economic activity, depression, decreasing standards of living etc. - then women do go for the Beta Bucks, even for the Silver-Copper-Stability-Beta-Bucks far earlier than in other times. If the government ever got broke, then boy would you ever see the early dutiful married woman come roaring back. Women would have to do that just to survive.

Scott Adams - game confirmed

Rush has been saying for 30 years...
"Liberals are liberals first"

"Group kicked out of gay pride parade for supporting Trump..."

It doesn't matter if you're gay, or a gay pride supporter, or black or trans or poor. No matter your other identities, if you aren't supporting the AGENDA, you aren't welcome.

Fuck!



He's on to me boys!

This story is hilarious:


U.S. Baby Boomer Gentrification Wreaks Havoc on City in Socialist Ecuador

Quote:The small city of Cuenca, Ecuador is struggling to address a growing wave of American “Baby Boomers” who have decided to retire there to take advantage of a socialist welfare state designed for its locals.

U.S. retirees, a recent city study revealed, are also causing conflict in the city, raising real estate prices, demanding English-language service, and threatening to sue locals accustomed to more “casual” business contracts.

In a report this week, the Miami Herald highlights the blissful existence of upper-class white American migrants who have flocked to Cuenca, attracted by retiree blogs and news sites that emphasize the appeal of its temperate weather and inexpensive healthcare and real estate.

“In Cuenca, a city of about 350,000 people, they’ve found robust public transportation, an extensive museum network, solid healthcare and markets bursting with fresh fruits and produce,” the Herald notes. “It’s a place where their two-bedroom, two-and-a-half bath apartment costs less than $400 a month. They’ve found that for about $1,500 a month, they can live a solidly upper-class lifestyle, dining out frequently and traveling.” The newspaper notes that a bus ride for seniors costs $0.12, and medical procedures are orders of magnitude cheaper than they would be at home.

The city commissioned a study on its foreign population in February 2017 that identified the majority of these new Cuencans as “‘baby boomers’ who began retiring in 2010 and… 4 percent of this population, estimated at 78 million, is planning to retire abroad.” North American countries – mostly the U.S. and Canada – make up 93 percent of Cuenca’s foreign population.

Cuenca’s “boomers” are more likely to have been professors before retirement than any other occupations, with “executives” coming in second place. The study delicately notes that many of these individuals “are not interested in being part of a new culture, and are more interested in that the city and its people respond to their needs and demands.”

Paramount among the city’s concerns is that many Americans are demanding Cuencans speak English and creating English-speaking neighborhoods within the city. “There is a large group for which learning a language is outside of their interests and, faced with the frustration of not being able to communicate, express annoyance with Cuencans who do not tend to their demands in English,” the study reads, adding that the city has invested in Spanish and idiomatic dictionaries for the new residents, but this has not solved the problem.

Boomers are also annoyed by “the ‘slowness’ of service” in Ecuador compared to the United States, and the common use of verbal or informal contracts. “Cases have been reported in which retired foreigners suggest a lawsuit against those who have not completed a previously agreed upon work,” the report notes.

In addition to cultural tensions, the study notes that 65 percent of the native Cuencan population is under 35, and many are frustrated that they must pay taxes and invest in the welfare state that foreign retiree migrants are now abusing.

The Herald story, which cites some findings from this study, is the latest trend piece on Cuenca in a crowded genre. The Cuenca study followed years of anecdotal journalism noting the idiosyncratic Boomer wave moving south. The city of Cuenca, in a study published in February, found its foreign population grew 173 percent between 2001 and 2010. By 2012, outlets like the BBC were calling it an American “promised land.” That article traced the Cuenca viral sensation among retiree migrants back to an article on the website Gringo Tree, which in turn noted that the wave of thousands of American ex-pats hitting the city followed the 2009 publication of an article in International Living that described the city as “the top destination in the world to retire.”

At the time, Cuenca’s International Relations Director Dani Jara appeared pleased by the new influx of high spenders to her city. She told BBC, “Tourism we promote, one creates strategies for the medium and long term. But in the case of a migratory phenomenon, that is due to the city conditions. Cuenca has grown throughout its history into a city where one can live well.”

By 2013, Cuenca Mayor Paul Granda was describing the mass migrant wave as “a little complicated for us.” “The city is less accessible to Ecuadorians” due to the wealthy Americans flocking there, he argued to ABC News, noting that average prices of basic goods had increased 40 to 50 percent.

Two years later, Ecuador’s Secretary of the Vice Ministry of Human Mobility was warning of wealthy American “ghettos” threatening the character of Cuenca. “There should not be ghettos forming in zones where Americans live, versus those who live permanently in these places,” Humberto Cordero said. The migration, he urged, “must be regulated.”

Cuenca’s American invasion was not regulated, in part because local businesses and real estate owners preferred selling and renting to Americans. “They care for their spaces and pay what is fair,” Cuencan homeowner María Torres told Ecuador’s El Comercio newspaper last year. She noted that their comfortable economic status and lack of children made for quiet, reliable tenants.

The government has nonetheless continued to express concern over American migrants overrunning the city. New International Relations Director Ana Paulina Crespo told the Herald in this week’s column that “Cuencanos are feeling like strangers in their own city” and emphasized, “Cuenca never wanted to attract retirees… we’re facing lots of problems over how to deal with a phenomenon that we aren’t responsible for creating.”

US boomer retirees, the scourge of Latin America!