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im trying to get defined abs/arms and chest in few months
so ive fallen behind on my workout regime severly for the past 4 months and as a result ive lost a lot of muscle and gained about 15 pounds.im planning to go to colombia some time at the end of march and i want to be in good shape by that time.

as of recently ive decided that im only going to eat organic food, because all of the gmos in all that supermarkets are starting to fucking disgust me and i dont want to put that shit into my body any more, so i decided to go on a fast where i will only eat acai berries, strawberries, apples and carrots for the next 2 weeks (to clense my body, and hopefully get me a little psyched up about getting healthy) and after that i will start to eat a wider veriaty of foods, but im starting to worry that if i do end following threw with this fast then i might lose some muscle mass.

also me, my dad and my brother have just moved into a comfort inn in naples that does not have a gym and im assuming that im not going to get ahold of any weights or find a gym close to my hotel any time soon, so this is also an obstacle in my way to getting in shape.

so my questions are;

1. is it a bad idea to go on a cleansing diet if i am trying to ripped?

2. iyo if i lose a good amount of weight while doing my fast will most of it be fat or muscle? and do you think it is worth it?

3. do you have any work out tips for me considering my position?

4. do you think that if i stick to this that i can get the body i want by march?

and if you have ever fasted or have done a cleansing diet before can you give me a few tips on what to expect


fuck i just relized that i posted this in the Game section of the website... im still unfamiliar with this website and i cant seem to figure out how to move this thread to a different section of the forum... if any of the programers of the site can help me out with this you would be doing me a huge favor. thanks
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1) diets are never good, change your eating habits and halve your carb intake.
2) not sure but I would assume you would lose both.
3) cardio in the morning on a empty stomach works very well, then weights on another day. work your legs hard, that will increase your testosterone and make you lose weight.
4) you should be able to see good changes by march, how old are you? Do you have a workout partner?

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(12-06-2011 09:58 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  3) cardio in the morning on a empty stomach works very well, then weights on another day. work your legs hard, that will increase your testosterone and make you lose weight.
4) you should be able to see good changes by march, how old are you? Do you have a workout partner?

thanks for the advice im gonna start jogging a couple miles every morning, but why do you think that jogging on an empty stomach is good?

i just turned 18 last month.

i occasionaly workout with my brother but he likes to workout at night and i like to in the mornings, so i dont think that me and him are going to start working out together

also do you think its a good idea to do cardio more then 4 times a week?
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RE: im trying to get defined abs/arms and chest in few months
(12-06-2011 09:54 PM)ibaguesucks305 Wrote:  so ive fallen behind on my workout regime severly for the past 4 months and as a result ive lost a lot of muscle and gained about 15 pounds.im planning to go to colombia some time at the end of march and i want to be in good shape by that time.

as of recently ive decided that im only going to eat organic food, because all of the gmos in all that supermarkets are starting to fucking disgust me and i dont want to put that shit into my body any more, so i decided to go on a fast where i will only eat acai berries, strawberries, apples and carrots for the next 2 weeks (to clense my body, and hopefully get me a little psyched up about getting healthy) and after that i will start to eat a wider veriaty of foods, but im starting to worry that if i do end following threw with this fast then i might lose some muscle mass.

also me, my dad and my brother have just moved into a comfort inn in naples that does not have a gym and im assuming that im not going to get ahold of any weights or find a gym close to my hotel any time soon, so this is also an obstacle in my way to getting in shape.

so my questions are;

1. is it a bad idea to go on a cleansing diet if i am trying to ripped?

2. iyo if i lose a good amount of weight while doing my fast will most of it be fat or muscle? and do you think it is worth it?

3. do you have any work out tips for me considering my position?

4. do you think that if i stick to this that i can get the body i want by march?

and if you have ever fasted or have done a cleansing diet before can you give me a few tips on what to expect


fuck i just relized that i posted this in the Game section of the website... im still unfamiliar with this website and i cant seem to figure out how to move this thread to a different section of the forum... if any of the programers of the site can help me out with this you would be doing me a huge favor. thanks

Don't just work on your arms/chest and abs and definitely don't just focus on your arms. Work your shoulders, back, chest, legs and abs. Your arms will get worked plenty when you do shoulders, back, and chest, although I do like to supplement with a few sets of biceps or triceps at the end of my workout depending on which muscle group I'm doing. Also, like rudebwoy said, don't neglect your legs. Make sure you do squats once a week, as they are pretty much the best overall body workout possible and yea they will increase testosterone more than just about anything else. The easiest way to get in cardio is to run/swim/bike after you lift.

Don't go on a diet. Just start eating a lot healthier (lots of fruit and veggies, especially dark green ones like broccoli and spinach) and eating smaller portions. Start drinking a lot of water and green tea.

I lift 4 days a week.

Monday- shoulders
Tuesday- legs
Wednesday-back
Thursday- chest

I try to get in abs at the end of the workout at least twice a week.

If you stick to eating healthy and stay on your routine, you will see results pretty damn fast.
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(12-06-2011 10:06 PM)ibaguesucks305 Wrote:  
(12-06-2011 09:58 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  3) cardio in the morning on a empty stomach works very well, then weights on another day. work your legs hard, that will increase your testosterone and make you lose weight.
4) you should be able to see good changes by march, how old are you? Do you have a workout partner?

thanks for the advice im gonna start jogging a couple miles every morning, but why do you think that jogging on an empty stomach is good?

i just turned 18 last month.

i occasionaly workout with my brother but he likes to workout at night and i like to in the mornings, so i dont think that me and him are going to start working out together

also do you think its a good idea to do cardio more then 4 times a week?

You are young so 4x a week doing cardio is fine, no more. Running can be hard on your joints so try not to do consecutive days if possible.

Cardio in the morning on empty stomach means you will burn fat and not the food in your stomach. Bodybuilders do cardio in the morning.

As for your workout, 3 main days should be legs, back and chest. The other body parts you can combine with any of these days, don't be a arm/chest junkie. Don't forget you need rest days.

Also stick to the power moves, deadlifts, squats, clean and jerk, shoulder press.

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RE: im trying to get defined abs/arms and chest in few months
thanks for the advice but like i said before i dont have any weights, so do you have any suggestions on how i can workout my shoulders, back and chest?
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If you are going for definition rather than bulk, you shouldn't need access to a a wide selection of weights. At your age, if you are doing a lot of cardio, you should be fine doing push-ups (focusing on form) and pull-ups, you should be fine. If you invest in a couple of lightweight dumbbells, this will expand your options (e.g., hold them while doing lunges to work the lower body, lift one when at the top of the push up for your back).
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push ups and pull ups are pretty underrated exercises to do for biceps, triceps, and chest as well. when i cant make it to the gym i make sure to at least do enough pushups. doesnt require you to have any weights either.
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(12-07-2011 10:13 AM)at350zguyy Wrote:  push ups and pull ups are pretty underrated exercises to do for biceps, triceps, and chest as well. when i cant make it to the gym i make sure to at least do enough pushups. doesnt require you to have any weights either.

^^This^^ Push ups are very good for chest, tricepts an shoulders. an theres all kinds of variations you can do to increase difficulty. Pull ups work mainly your upper back, biceps again theres lots of variations of these you can do. For legs you can do lunges, jog all kinds of stuff.

Im sure if you google "work out with out weights" or something you will find plenty of routines

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RE: im trying to get defined abs/arms and chest in few months
hey do you guys have any suggestions for ab workouts? every time i search for ab workouts i usually get the same information.

back when i was working out a lot i was doing about 1000 reps of a few variations of sit ups. i had some results but not as much as i thought i would get.
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(12-07-2011 05:34 PM)ibaguesucks305 Wrote:  hey do you guys have any suggestions for ab workouts? every time i search for ab workouts i usually get the same information.

back when i was working out a lot i was doing about 1000 reps of a few variations of sit ups. i had some results but not as much as i thought i would get.

cause abs are made in the kitchen not the gym. I see fat peckers that do endless ab and core workouts and they can do infinitely more reps of those bs exercises than I can but at the end of the day I got a 6 pack and they dont and I don't do a lick of ab specific exercises. Get your bodyfat down your abs will show up.

I also disagree with this do push ups and get defined garbage, if you can afford to go to Colombia you can find a cheap gym in naples or a rec center something, lift some real weights. You're not going to get big in 4 months but you'll start developing some shape. Truth is most guys even lifting heavy aren't going to get big unless they eat to get big so this fear of weights that some guys have is ridiculous.

You want to lose weight and get fit then it's simple math... burn more calories than you put in. You want to live like a squirrel on nuts and berries without any real significant protein intake you're going to lose muscle, you might lose overall weight but you'll be skinny fat. You want to eat clean eat some organic grass fed beef, free range eggs, shit that'll help you get healthy fats, healthy proteins into your system and help your body become an efficient fat burning machine and get to the gym. This stuff is basic, you can try to find loopholes around it but at the end of the day, compound lifts, 3-4 days a week, don't work the show muscles only, do some deadlifts and squats and see how much your show muscles develop overall... cardio post working out, find out your maintenance calories and set a calorie deficit of 500 cals a day, that'll get you a solid 1-2 pounds a week off your bodyweight, find a macro breakdown that works for you, I use a 40-40-20 myself but using that macro you can design a diet using a program like fitday which is free and get to work and you'll get to where you want eventually. You're looking for a quick fix and a cleanse and all that isn't going to do that for you, you want a quick fix you're going to need chemicals and you're not ready to go there if you can't get yourself to fit on your own.
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(12-07-2011 05:58 PM)mikeymike Wrote:  cause abs are made in the kitchen not the gym.

Exactly!
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One thing to realize is that it's incredibly difficult to diet and build muscle. Unless you have the body mass you already need - in that case you just need to lose weight - then you'll need to build muscle and that requires eating. You should eat healthy, but you'll need a lot of protein to build the muscle mass. You can do a lot in four months.
I like "Only One Man's" suggestion for a routine:
Monday- shoulders
Tuesday- legs
Wednesday-back
Thursday- chest


Keep it simple and you're more inclined to stick with it. This talk about some crazy vegetable fast diet for two weeks is, in my opinion, setting yourself up for failure. Eat when you're hungry, but eat the right foods (veggies, fruits, lean protein, etc). My personal opinion is you should go paleo and ditch the gluten, grains, preservatives and any of that other shit. Good luck.
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(12-07-2011 05:58 PM)mikeymike Wrote:  
(12-07-2011 05:34 PM)ibaguesucks305 Wrote:  hey do you guys have any suggestions for ab workouts? every time i search for ab workouts i usually get the same information.

back when i was working out a lot i was doing about 1000 reps of a few variations of sit ups. i had some results but not as much as i thought i would get.

cause abs are made in the kitchen not the gym. I see fat peckers that do endless ab and core workouts and they can do infinitely more reps of those bs exercises than I can but at the end of the day I got a 6 pack and they dont and I don't do a lick of ab specific exercises. Get your bodyfat down your abs will show up.

Real true. Usually during the winter time I put on a few pounds as I try to get bigger, and my abs completely disappear, to the untrained eye you'd think I have a beer belly. But I actually do crazy ab exercises, and come spring time I cut back on my eating, so by summertime I'm completely ripped. Seriously, if you saw me in the winter without my shirt on, you would literally have no idea that I do crazy ab workouts every other day. Or that I do anything at all.
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You want to gain muscle on a diet that contains virtually no protein? Good luck with that.
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THis thread is about working out without weights.

If you have two chairs, and a bar or beam from which you can do pull-ups, you can get a good body.

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