Post: #1

I have a great apartment in the city centre, all mine, luxury modern furnishings.

My MO is 100% first bangs at my place. The problem is smoothly moving from last bar/handout venue back to my place. I would be very interested in hearing what works best for the veteran boys (mixx etc) to see if i'm missing something because for me the transition is not smooth enough.

Lines I already use: "I make a mean mojito - Lets grab a quick last coctail at my place although FALSE TIME CONSTRAINT"
"Come and see those photos from the trip I mentioned although (INSERT FALSE TIME CONSTRAINT)"
"Theres a really funny video I want you to see, its on my laptop, although FALSE TIME CONSTRAINT"
"You should see my X, its unreal although FALSE TIME CONSTRAINT"

Apart from lines to use, I'm sure there are kickass props out there that we can use to seed the return back to our crib. As an example, I have just ordered the SHOCKING LIE DETECTOR, that is a game that gives you a small electric shock to your fingers if you lie (google it).

Off the top of my head I would use this: "I need to trust a girl if I want to get to know her better (qualifying) can I trust you? (look deep in her eyes), ASK ONE OR TWO SEXUAL TYPE QUESTIONS, THEN: "you know what, I have to show you the coolest thing, its a real lie detector etc etc..." Get her back to your place, escalate, take some sexual question lie detector tests, when it shocks her (as it will, about as accurate as government statistics), go in for kino comfort, kiss and bang.

What other props do you use or reccommend in your house... guitars are good if you can play, massive teddy bears ("I have a roommate who would love to meet you at my place, hes big, very furry and has an appetite for young girls etc..)

Suggestions? Feel free to use my lie detector routine.

Post: #2

tactics can't save you. cause even if you pull her home somehow then you will post another question here about escalating at seduction location or about destroying her lmr etc etc. seeking perfect smooth "how to" takes place cause either you 1) run are very indirect from start to finish or/and 2) you don't express your interest which makes the interaction very ambiguous and not sexually charged.

all of the questions like.. how to pull her, how to escalate, when to call her etc all of these problems solve themselves very fast when both of you (or more ) know what's up.

if we think about it for a second the only way to get girls consistently is to talk to the attractive ones, express your interest honestly (subcommunicating/verbalizing it) and focus on receptive ones. and these receptive ones will be more than happy to be touched kissed pulled and fucked by you. when you can see she follows your lead and gets horny even if she still pain in the ass verbally then you know she's receptive.

i don't know any technique or move to touch/kiss/pull/fuck girls cause i know when i do great job attracting her then it's given it's just a matter of time.

i remember some time ago one legit guy in PU said.. all you need is to remember 2 tings. to go in HARD and LEAD. If you go in hard, tonality, projection, eye contact attraction takes care of itself. Sets aren't hooking cause you aren't going in hard enough. And from there, just lead the girl. Lead the conversation, lead her sexually, lead her physically, lead her in the club, lead her out of the club, lead her in the bedroom...

this commnity like to come up with new ways to get hot chicks where all it takes is to man up and step up hard to these horny sluts and lead the ones who follow. that's what it comes down to.

Post: #3

its shit for younger guys like me in our 20's cause we dont have our own place for lays. and its not like im bringin a chick back to mine with my family here. im doing good with women now (leading in all aspects,full closing etc) but i cant go for the snl

so its dates for us younger guys to get the lay,hoping one of us will have family out of the house for a shag!

Post: #4

"Gonna grab a quick night cap at my place, you ready to go?"

Like XXL said, if you don't have the right vibe or comfort she's probably not coming no matter what you say. If you haven't already had your hands all over her in addition to making out your chances drop to nil. It sounds like you already know what works, it could be your closing that is the problem. You absolutely HAVE to keep the momentum going, that is the key.

I also have a grill at home on the balcony, works like you wouldn't believe (they're also rare to see in DC).

Post: #5

this guy has a clue or two:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/06/2...-my-place/

Post: #6

Tell me more about that lie detector

Post: #7

Would it be wise to rest your hand on her hip when asking this along with lower and slower voice? To give a sexual hint.

Post: #8

I use the same lines as OP. If I am direct, many of the lizards flake (in my city) as they always want to pretend that they came to mine under other intentions and that 'shyt just happens'.

There are two types of lizards that want to fcuk. The first type don't need any sort of wooing, they just need a time and a place.
The second type don't want to feel like sluts, they don't want a direct invitation and here is where moves like the OP come in handy.

One cannot deny the existence of the second type and their presence in the bang market.

Post: #9

(11-01-2011 11:46 AM)kbell Wrote:  Would it be wise to rest your hand on her hip when asking this along with lower and slower voice? To give a sexual hint.

There is no one answer guys. Your game is tailor-made to your personality. One line isn't going to work for another if your styles are completely different. You can't go caveman "let's go fuck" if you're been under the radar all night, and vice versa work if you have. Try out some stuff and then figure out what fits your personality the best.

As pimp as my pad is, it's always been harder for me to get girls back to my place. It's always much, much easier (for me) to give them a ride or walk them home and use the bathroom line to get in. I've been cockblocked by roommates and I've had roommates that played a part in me getting the lay. Logistics are always different for everyone, and every scenario is different.

Post: #10

btw one little advice relevant to the topic which think is pretty solid is to assess snl posibility and escalate accordingly.

it means.. if i know i can sleep with her very soon (she loves me and logistics are good) then i know i can move faster and escalate harder cavemaning until sex. otherwise take things slower, build sexual tension and keep that tension growing and growing by groping less kissing less in order not to release it without sex.

i see 2 scenarios:
- i do heavy stuff manhandling/groping/kissing her hard when i know we can continue it all the way to sex very soon.
- i tone it down, i tease, keep the tension growing while dealing with logistics and only after i see good chance to pull very soon i unleash the beast and escalate fast and LEAD HARD.

Post: #11

If she's older than me, she probably has a nicer apartment so I go back there. If she's my age or younger, I go back to my place.

I usually invite them for an activity, such as music/movies. Bathroom line is legit for getting into theirs. Always find a way to go back to an apartment for the night.

Post: #12

(11-01-2011 08:41 AM)alecks Wrote:  its shit for younger guys like me in our 20's cause we dont have our own place for lays. and its not like im bringin a chick back to mine with my family here. im doing good with women now (leading in all aspects,full closing etc) but i cant go for the snl

so its dates for us younger guys to get the lay,hoping one of us will have family out of the house for a shag!

I hear you man. This is why we need to go for girls who have their own place.

Post: #13

Great tips guys, GMACS "I'm gonna get myself a nightcap, wanna join me" line is gold (no wonder i'm an rss subscriber since long ago to this guy) I love the way the implication is you're gonna have a drink regardless if she wants to come with you.

XXLs first post was gold too, most probably my leading up to the apartment bounce hasnt been aggresively sexual enough making what were doing obvious, THOUGH agree with moma that a large percentage of the bang market is that type 2 that knows whats up but if you so much as hint at it or god forbid verbalise it, its over, no go.

The lie detector is a gimmick prop that could give you a small electric shock when you put your finger in it. Haven't received it yet so my hunch is it doesnt detect shit, but still would be useful, the key is to formulate a couple of sexy questions that would push her towards sexy time. Obvious stuff like "Have you ever had a 3some" may trigger her ASD and block the bang... better stuff would be "what colour bra are you wearing etc" leading to you having to check the veracity of what she says... more suggestions welcome.

On the prop fornt, I scanned the 2 other threads on a similar subject and they were limited to stuffed giant teddies (cheers mixx) coctail mixers (already have them) travel photos, guitar, boxing gloves (this one I liked, she will try to hit you leading to physical escalation) and a couple of others.

Something that would be gold would be a painting you are working on or your own photos blown up and made into wall hangings, especially if they are sultry and seductive.

Keep em coming boys...

Post: #14

(11-02-2011 09:49 AM)BigAlexBoss Wrote:  Great tips guys, GMACS "I'm gonna get myself a nightcap, wanna join me" line is gold (no wonder i'm an rss subscriber since long ago to this guy) I love the way the implication is you're gonna have a drink regardless if she wants to come with you.

XXLs first post was gold too, most probably my leading up to the apartment bounce hasnt been aggresively sexual enough making what were doing obvious, THOUGH agree with moma that a large percentage of the bang market is that type 2 that knows whats up but if you so much as hint at it or god forbid verbalise it, its over, no go.

The lie detector is a gimmick prop that could give you a small electric shock when you put your finger in it. Haven't received it yet so my hunch is it doesnt detect shit, but still would be useful, the key is to formulate a couple of sexy questions that would push her towards sexy time. Obvious stuff like "Have you ever had a 3some" may trigger her ASD and block the bang... better stuff would be "what colour bra are you wearing etc" leading to you having to check the veracity of what she says... more suggestions welcome.

On the prop fornt, I scanned the 2 other threads on a similar subject and they were limited to stuffed giant teddies (cheers mixx) coctail mixers (already have them) travel photos, guitar, boxing gloves (this one I liked, she will try to hit you leading to physical escalation) and a couple of others.

Something that would be gold would be a painting you are working on or your own photos blown up and made into wall hangings, especially if they are sultry and seductive.

Keep em coming boys...

Sometimes, after there has been touching or kissing, I tell a girl that the night before I went out with my best friend and buddies (to celebrate his birthday). I act a little bit tired and make it known that it was a social, wild and long night. I then tell her that I'd prefer to do something different and relaxing with her, like watching a cool movie at my place or drinking a bit of wine while listening to music--if she digs me she will usually accept.

Post: #15

I bought a condo about 3 years ago. For the last 3 years I have been telling girls - "I just bought a new condo, its fucking amazing". At first, I was really excited about it. Now, I just pretend to be excited about it.

I basically say - "wanna come check out my new condo".

I throw in other little things like - "Are you an artist? I'm trying to find someone to paint a mural in my living room."

Or, ..."What do you know about interior design" - "I think I wanna add marble floors in the entrance way and Brazilian cherry wood in the dining room"

Or,..."I love sitting on my balcony and smoking a j while overlooking the city"

Its all bullshit, I'm just dropping bait and trying to get them hooked. Once we get there, I already have to place set up perfect. Big furry rugs, a soft comfy couch, clean, nice paint job, lighting is perfect, snacks and drinks ready to go, plants and flowers, music set up.

In 10 years I will still be saying - "come check out my new place, I just got it last week and I need help decorating, are you an artist"?

Post: #16

The other night I met a girl half way between our places and was worried how to pull her because she goes to work at 6 am. I told her that we were going to meet at chili's and not to go in. After I showed up I suggested another place and hopped in her car...then another..mile by mile getting closer to my house. At the last place I knew she was going to try and head home and bring me to my car so I went all in and started drinking harder. When she was ready to go I jumped in her car and in one mile I pulled. "I don't think I should drive home" Ya know cops.
She said "Ok I guess I can take you home" Cool I want you to see that spaghetti sauce I made today (I always make it) once inside I showed her my sauce. Alfredo!

Post: #17

(11-01-2011 11:55 AM)Moma Wrote:  I use the same lines as OP. If I am direct, many of the lizards flake (in my city) as they always want to pretend that they came to mine under other intentions and that 'shyt just happens'.

There are two types of lizards that want to fcuk. The first type don't need any sort of wooing, they just need a time and a place.
The second type don't want to feel like sluts, they don't want a direct invitation and here is where moves like the OP come in handy.

One cannot deny the existence of the second type and their presence in the bang market.

I would also add that for the second types of girls, the more skittish non-sluts you're going under the radar with, whatever indirect line you decide to go with can be aided immensely if you give her a sincere-type kiss/make out right before. Kind of like a "hey this means something more" type thing. It doesn't, not really, but these chicks don't like to feel "used" or whatever so if you're acting more sincere they will bite more easily.

Post: #18

My best results have come when dancing with the girl towards the end of the night, leaning in, and whispering 'lets get out of here'. It isn't a line really and that's why I like it. If she's feeling you then this is golden.

Otherwise, I just make sure that we are having a lot of fun all the way through last call, i.e. no dips in energy or conversation. Then it is easy to say, 'I don't want to stop partying yet...' 'Lets go have another drink' 'I want to show you something...'. False time constraints can be good but I think they aren't really needed unless the girl has been reluctant up to that point, or been pulling the whole 'I'm not going to sleep with you tonight' spiel.