Post: #51

(05-15-2019 04:10 AM)The Stronger Sex Wrote:  It doesn't help that pitbulls are usually owned by scumbags. If you're a scumbag, what dog breed do you get? There you go.

Post: #52

You guys that talk about banning certain breeds of dogs all sound like faggots, you go on about 1A and 2A but you want to ban a dog? They are "assault dogs" now I guess.

Post: #53

My friend who owns a pit bull: "She is a great dog. Obedient, friendly."
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"Squirrel in the backyard yesterday, didn't stand a chance. She closed the distance so fast. Then she has the squirrel in her mouth, I can't fucking get the damn dog to open her jaws. I had to take a broomstick to pry her jaws open to get the dead squirrel out of her mouth."

By the way, this is an incredibly friendly pit bull. I like the dog. But I sure as hell wouldn't own one.
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Sheesh, Sidney Crosby got his skates in a tangle there, eh? That's a bit heavy handed.

As with any issues that don't contradict the U.S. Constitution, I'm fine with any state, county, city, village, or municipality to put restrictions where they feel the need.

#statesrights

That said, I think it'd be dumb for a state to attempt. Seems difficult ($$) to enforce for the small problem dogs cause in our society.

Post: #54

10/10 Thread OP.

Pretty even split between guys complaining about the general lack of responsibility of at least 80% of pit bull owners, and butt hurt dog lovers having feminine meltdowns.

Post: #55

Why is no one talking about what the Pomeranian was wearing though? If you ask me, it was totally asking to get mauled dressed like such a pansy

Post: #56

I fucking died

(05-15-2019 11:14 AM)Repo Wrote:  Why is no one talking about what the Pomeranian was wearing though? If you ask me, it was totally asking to get mauled dressed like such a pansy

Post: #57

I have had a couple pitbull mutts who were great dogs. Avoided full breds however.

The biggest problem with pits is people who won't be the alpha/boss of their dog and people who think having a violent dog is cool and/or "gangsta."

Post: #58

(05-15-2019 11:02 AM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  You guys that talk about banning certain breeds of dogs all sound like faggots, you go on about 1A and 2A but you want to ban a dog? They are "assault dogs" now I guess.

Gangs of AR-15's don't roam the street trying to kill people.

Dumb comparison.

Post: #59

Nah. The same panic mongers who want to ban a dangerous breed, will ban GSDs and Rotties next.
Then, they will also ban training tools such as e-collars and prongs because they look inhumane, so if your dog does misbehave you can't train it so it'll be put down.

Emotional legislation based on sensationalism and manipulation is bullshit.

Post: #60

Very simple. Pitt Bulls should be sterilized as should anyone who has one or supports them being used as pets. Can´t believe there´s anyone here with an opposing viewpoint.

Post: #61

Because where else on the forum would I put these pitbull memes.









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Post: #62

All the people that own pitbulls are bad people.

Yup,kill off the dogs.

Post: #63

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Post: #64

(05-15-2019 04:24 AM)wi30 Wrote:  My cattle dog is 7 [...] Even if my wife and I are fucking around and pushing/wrestling, she steps in between us.

[My wife] has to yell multiple times to get them to stop or stand up and pull rank by grabbing their collars.

(05-15-2019 05:57 AM)VNvet Wrote:  I see this a lot. It's actually pretty funny.

I can see the humor, but I wonder how his wife feels, knowing that her husband hasn't taken the time to train his dog to respect her.

It's not surprising that the wife has not borne offspring, because her home is not a safe environment for children.

Newlywed men must train their dogs to respect and obey the new wife.

wi30, the behaviors you describe would indicate that you have a poorly-trained animal who believes that your wife is subordinate to the dog.

It is not "pulling rank"--but rather a skirmish--when a person must resort to putting his hands on a dog and using physical force.

If your wife has a child (unlikely in the current dynamic) God forbid that she leaves the baby unattended with such an animal.


Yes, you are the alpha leader, and your dog recognizes this.

But in your dog's eyes, there is a discrete pecking order, and she is superior to your wife.

This should never be the case.

Do you allow your cattle dog to lay on the furniture? Does it get to eat before your wife eats?

Dogs must understand that they are below all of the humans in their unit, including children, which is why parents of newborns must train their dogs to respect the baby, just as they would be trained not to jump up on guests, nor intervene in a conflict between you and your wife.

It's negligent to allow a dog to ignore your wife's commands, and if your wife is able to remain calm and patient despite this chronic insubordination... well then, she must be a very patient woman, indeed.

(05-15-2019 03:39 AM)VNvet Wrote:  

(05-14-2019 09:26 PM)ChefAllDay Wrote:  [...]

[...]The pit bull breeds had a purpose - fighting bulls and bears - not to be a family pet. [...]

I don't know, the boy's dog in that picture looks a lot like a well-behaved family pet.

Any breed, with the right guidance and training, can become a valuable domestic companion. Haven't you ever encountered a sweet, affectionate, playful, well-trained, subordinate Pit Bull? If not, you're missing out -- they're a lot of fun!

Likewise, even a Yorkie or a Bichon Frise, if poorly trained, will bite people and cause a nuisance. Of course, their jaws aren't as powerful as those of a German Shepherd, but it's still negligent on the part of the owner.

Post: #65

As a lifelong owner of bullies, from staffies to apbt’s and having worked in the field of veterinary science as well as holding a degree in veterinary science among others, it is my belief that a dog is only as good as it’s owner.

Most people have no business owning a dog, they have absolutely no idea how to train or control a canine. The bulldog breeds are known for extreme loyalty to humans and their packs, for amazing intellect and physical prowess beyond that of most dogs. Most, unless trained otherwise have temperaments that are partial to humans because where they hail from - pit fights - any aggression towards humans was a death sentence, usually shot on sight, no questions asked. This selected for docility towards humans, given pit fighting is no longer the main use of these incredible animals the genetic lines have been muddied a bit by imbeciles who own them for the wrong reasons and choose to breed dogs showing tendencies which would have been culled in the past.

That said in practice, I’ve been bitten twice- once by a chihuahua and once by a chow. I’ve probed .38 caliber chest wounds with my fingers and no anesthetic on a 100lb bulldog while he licked my face. I knew the animal and it’s temperament.

Shitty humans = shitty dogs. There are more children bitten every year by chocolate labs than by bulldog breeds.

Now if you’re prone to the sensationalism and the 24 hour news cycle that seeks to polarize you and outrage you, then fine.

I had a Bullie rescue i hand fed for the first six months of his life, he was a 100lb plush toy. I’d take him to the park and he’d play with toddlers all day, until someone would inevitably tell me what an amazing animal he was and asked what breed he was, then scooped up their children as they pissed their pants and ran away.

Banning a breed is absurd, just like banning firearms.

That’s my $.02

Post: #66

Pit Bulls that show violent tendencies should be put down immediately while puppies.

They have not been domesticated...so that is why some of them kill people.

The gun analogy does NOT apply to Pit Bulls. A gun does not have autonomy. It cannot act on its own volition. A Pit Bull can.

A long time ago in England, after dog fighting was banned, any Bulldog that showed aggression was killed.

People were wise enough then to know that an animal's violent tendencies do not go away easily.

People influenced by PETA seem to forget that.

Nowadays..who would worry about getting a Bulldog if they have small children?

Animals can have violent tendencies no matter how nicely they were raised in a nice home by nice people.

An animal raised from birth in a nice home is still dangerous if not properly domesticated.

Just ask Siegfried and Roy...

Post: #67

No. Pitbullphobia is not fair for chihuahuas.

Post: #68

(05-14-2019 08:01 PM)Windom Earle Wrote:  In a country such as the US that vehemently defends its right to bear arms, a law to eradicate a living/breathing member and protector of the family would never be passed, even if the evidence suggests that on the whole, the breed does more harm than good.

That's a bit different. A weapon is a tool, and is highly unlikely to spontaneously shoot by itself. I honestly believe that everyone who said the "The gun just went off" bullshit was screwing around and not taking the proper precautions of verifying that the weapon is unloaded, not placing anything on the trigger, etc.

A dog is a sentient being that has its own emotions, thoughts, and tendencies that a person ultimately cant control. You can train a dog all day and sometimes still not be able to do what you want it to do. I have had a few family members have dogs that fail training school multiple times, and they had well trained dogs before and after these instances. Having said that, I am on the fence with pit-bulls. My personal experience with them, I have never been afraid of them. It was never a requirement for a pit-bull to be normalized to me by its owner, I have had that happen with a family member's Rottweiler. After that she was fine with me, and I would consider her well mannered, albeit territorial as hell. I tend to think that given the right motivation a Pincer, Shepard, or Rottweiler can be just as dangerous in the wrong hands as a pitbull.

Regardless, if a dog is an aggressive breed, than the only recourse that you have as someone either being bitten or near someone bitten is to take a key(screwdriver, pocket knife, etc) to their nerves behind their jaw and keep pressing until they let go or you kill it.

Post: #69

I met a cool guy today while I was out running an errand. But he was being walked by his dog across my path and as I said hey the dog snarled at me. He apologized and moved towards his car. It was a Volkswagen GTI. I used to own a GTI. His car was pretty sick, had nice rims, but it wasn't a turbo so I didn't pop wood or anything. As I'm chatting him up about his car, and trying to have a civil conversation about cars and our shard interest in GTIs, his little shit dog is running around like crazy with it's tail between its legs and being disobedient. So needless to say there wasn't much room to engage in a meaningful conversation with another human being because he was busy trying to wrangle his useless eater, and so we parted ways. This is the shit I'm talking about.

Post: #70

Is this actually a serious topic here? I'm sad to see that it is.

How about penalizing stupid people for the stupid things that dogs do?

I had a landlord/housemate who owned one. That dog was scared of lots of stuff. He was a nice dog who was good to lots of people.

That being said, I wouldn't trust pitbulls around small animals. I'm not sure how I would feel with them being around kids unsupervised.

Post: #71

(05-15-2019 05:12 PM)buja Wrote:  Pit Bulls that show violent tendencies should be put down immediately while puppies.

They have not been domesticated...so that is why some of them kill people.

The gun analogy does NOT apply to Pit Bulls. A gun does not have autonomy. It cannot act on its own volition. A Pit Bull can.

A long time ago in England, after dog fighting was banned, any Bulldog that showed aggression was killed.

People were wise enough then to know that an animal's violent tendencies do not go away easily.

People influenced by PETA seem to forget that.

Nowadays..who would worry about getting a Bulldog if they have small children?

Animals can have violent tendencies no matter how nicely they were raised in a nice home by nice people.

An animal raised from birth in a nice home is still dangerous if not properly domesticated.

Just ask Siegfried and Roy...

Would you then put down every wolf born into captivity?

The civilized approach is to only allow specimens with desirable traits to reproduce.

This is called breeding.

I do not agree with the argument that the Pit Bull is irredeemable as a breed.

They were bred to have a big heart in the face of combat. When faced with a dog-fighting scenario, this would be expressed as callous viciousness.

Now that dog-fighting is obselete, this trait retains an unexpected valuable.

This potential for can be applied to other forms of service, like being a companion to humans.

Pit Bulls are exceedingly eager to please their owners, whether it be by tearing out the throat of an adversary, or by snuggling up enthusiastically in the living room.

It all depends on what the owner desires from their pet, and what they are willing to invest in order for their pet to achieve.

The argument that the breed's genome was essentially vandalized by people who bred them to be "gangster" may be true, but this can be corrected by proper breeding strategies, and shouldn't condemn the whole breed as an un-trainable hazard.

Too many dogs are put down because their owners had dismissed their dog's inappropriate alpha behaviors as "intrinsic" or "natural" or "canine" (whatever that means.) No -- take charge of your animal and ensure they they're properly trained and controlled around other people.

Saying that a whole breed is naturally vicious is just a way to let off the hook negligent owners who can't admit they're shitty owners.

Post: #72

If you saw someone walking down the street wielding a knife, gun or other deadly weapon, you'd probably call the police, yet pitbull owners are wielding a deadly weapon every time they take their dogs for a walk. I'd be held accountable if I attacked someone with a weapon, whereas the pitbulls owners can skate by with barely a slap on the wrist, even after inflicting life changing or even fatal injuries. If they can openly wield their deadly weapons in public, I should be able to carry weapons powerful enough to kill the thing should it attack.

I understand that pig hunters quite like pitbull mixes, but the whole suburban pitbull thing is just so incongruous, it's like another manifestation of clown world. First, the soyim appropriated full sleeve tatts, then full beards, then they got muscular, intimidating dogs - do they think we don't see through their fakery?

Post: #73

(05-15-2019 11:59 AM)VNvet Wrote:  

(05-15-2019 11:02 AM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  You guys that talk about banning certain breeds of dogs all sound like faggots, you go on about 1A and 2A but you want to ban a dog? They are "assault dogs" now I guess.

Gangs of AR-15's don't roam the street trying to kill people.

Dumb comparison.

Gangs of them roam the streets looking to kill people?

I didn't realize how many people on here seem to be scared of dogs.

Post: #74

(05-15-2019 07:25 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

(05-15-2019 11:59 AM)VNvet Wrote:  

(05-15-2019 11:02 AM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  You guys that talk about banning certain breeds of dogs all sound like faggots, you go on about 1A and 2A but you want to ban a dog? They are "assault dogs" now I guess.

Gangs of AR-15's don't roam the street trying to kill people.

Dumb comparison.

Gangs of them roam the streets looking to kill people?

I didn't realize how many people on here seem to be scared of dogs.

At this point I think pit bulls are a euphemism for something else. . .

Post: #75

(05-15-2019 07:32 PM)Repo Wrote:  

(05-15-2019 07:25 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

(05-15-2019 11:59 AM)VNvet Wrote:  

(05-15-2019 11:02 AM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  You guys that talk about banning certain breeds of dogs all sound like faggots, you go on about 1A and 2A but you want to ban a dog? They are "assault dogs" now I guess.

Gangs of AR-15's don't roam the street trying to kill people.

Dumb comparison.

Gangs of them roam the streets looking to kill people?

I didn't realize how many people on here seem to be scared of dogs.

At this point I think pit bulls are a euphemism for something else. . .

Dog whistle thread about dogs. That's some meta shit, dude!