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important event if it's true, the fight is getting harder against the globalist

Quote:http://www.leparisien.fr/politique/benja...981473.php
Benjamin Griveaux evacuated from his offices after a violent intrusion

Individuals have "broken down the door" with a construction machine.
Big scare for Benjamin Thrushes. According to our information, the government spokesman Benjamin Griveaux had to be evacuated this Saturday after an intrusion into the offices of his State Secretariat on rue de Grenelle.

According to a witness on site, "around 4:30 p.m., about 15 people, some dressed in black, others with a yellow vest, broke down the ministry's door with a construction machine. »

The intruders entered the courtyard, attacked vehicles and quickly left. The Secretary of State and his staff have been taken to safety.

The site also houses the Ministry of Parliamentary Relations. But according to our information, intrusion attempts are also taking place in other ministries.

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(01-05-2019 12:07 PM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  Yeah ok, there is a tendency to over-dramatize things in France.

The laws here make it easy to get your retirement paychecks every month but in parallel still do some light work to get a bit more money at the end of the day.
The guy who did my tile floor here was doing it so, thanks to his network he has regular opportunities to do some not too annoying jobs, so he works 40 hours a month or so, declining most of the offers anyway.
The guy who fell was in the same situation, without a doubt.
Working on the roof was of course not a good idea, but he wasn't forced.

IMHO if people want to have the possibility to work regardless of their age it's fine.
What more and more people here at afraid of is that they will be forced to, given the way our government handles the money, plus the fact that we fund retirement by repartition and not by capitalization (as switzerland used to do it, for instance).

What this means is basically that the ones at work today are paying for the current retirees.
The problem is that nowadays we invite millions of foreigners into our land who cost us a lot in social help already, and do not seem to be intent on ever working, so who is going to pay for our retirement when we'll be old ?
A worrying question, even for me.

No worries mate, there will be plenty of roofs for you to clean in your late 60s, no need to over-dramatize!

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(01-05-2019 12:42 PM)redpillage Wrote:  
(01-05-2019 12:07 PM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  Working on the roof was of course not a good idea, but he wasn't forced.

Well if that's not a massive attempt at gaslighting if I have ever seen one. Just because he was forced by sheer necessity, meaning that he most likely subsisted near poverty level, does not mean he chose to climb on a roof at 68 like he would choose to book a Club Med cruise to Aruba.

Nobody in their right mind climbs on a roof during winter to make repairs at the ripe age of 68. He probably had little (I don't say none) choice in the matter as he was forced to risk his life by circumstance.

FYI: 'contractor is new brave world speak for a temporary worker who is unable to find a cushy permanent job, let alone has a real career. This has become the new normal in Germany as well as France over the past two decades.

Learn how to read between the lines in the ferry-tales you are fed, or you'll remain the globalists' bitch for the rest of your life.

Sorry, it was not my goal to try and gaslight anybody.

Let's check the facts if you will.
The minimum monthly retirement money is 868.20 euros if alone or 1347.88 euros if a couple :
https://www.service-public.fr/particulie...oits/F2544
That's netto by the way.

Also if you have only these resources to live off then you are eligible to getting public housing.
My grandmother who was living in a ghetto paris suburb had such a flat, 80sqm for 180 euros per month including water, heating, etc.
So that leaves you almost 700 euros monthly to live if you are alone, more if married (I assume kids are hopefully out of the picture at 65).

Now I can understand why some people would want more and continue working, but is this your definition of poverty-level subsistence, really ?
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Congratulation to the team who have scared the government spokesman Benjamin Griveaux, who is full of shit.

The globalists didn't give a fuck about the average French who are killed one by one one, silently, like the poor 68 year old worker, but now the French are coming after the globalist motherfuckers!

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(01-05-2019 12:57 PM)911 Wrote:  No worries mate, there will be plenty of roofs for you to clean in your late 60s, no need to over-dramatize!

Ok, something else too :
To get only that minimum amount of retirement money, you need to have worked for less than the minimum wage for the 40 years required.
Since less than minimum is illegal, it means that you either didn't work full-time (35 hours weekly in france), or did not work for 40 years before getting to retirement age.
So yes, of course this is a bad place to be in, but maybe it's just not entirely nobody's fault either ?

Regarding my own retirement, I do not believe that I will ever get anything from the state, and try to plan accordingly already.
But yes it's not easy, what can I say .. the government needs money for the migrants !

So yes, france is becoming third-world and the globalist government needs to be taken down, there's no discussing this.
But mixing in any barely-related subject that the left agitates in front of your eyes is only diluting focus.
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Quote: Regarding my own retirement, I do not think I’ll get anything from the state

^ If you are in the USA you will get social security when you retire. Unless you are saying you think SS will go bankrupt in the next 20 to 30 years as the boomers and their children retire and not enough people are paying into SS to keep it afloat?

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Yes, this is what I (and many others) are afraid of.

It happened in greece and nobody cared apparently, so I don't see a reason why it would be different here.
But like I said, I already factored in having to work until I die if I have to.
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It's the first time since the last revolution that an official man of the goverment must hide from an angry crowd.

Big numbers of protesters + people laughing at the government spokesman Benjamin Griveaux = big boost for the movement
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From today, or thereabouts.





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(01-05-2019 12:54 PM)balybary Wrote:  According to a witness on site, "around 4:30 p.m., about 15 people, some dressed in black, others with a yellow vest, broke down the ministry's door with a construction machine. »

Breaking the door down with a jackhammer is already cool enough, but imagine if it was actually a bulldozer?

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Meanwhile at Macron's office:

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Sotiri Dimpinoudis' tweets contained tons of videos of France's Yellow Vests protests throughout the country. Amazing to see what's going on that the MSM won't cover nor speak much.





I don't know what the deal is with this "Flying Rambo" guy.
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(01-05-2019 02:18 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  
(01-05-2019 12:54 PM)balybary Wrote:  According to a witness on site, "around 4:30 p.m., about 15 people, some dressed in black, others with a yellow vest, broke down the ministry's door with a construction machine. »

Breaking the door down with a jackhammer is already cool enough, but imagine if it was actually a bulldozer?

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In the movie Snatch, you have the famous "One Punch" Mickey O'Neil, a bare-knuckle boxing champion (almost invincible) and a gypsy.

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Turn out that the big guy who has jumped in front of 3 policemen to box them is ...
a gypsy boxing champion.

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Christophe Dettinger, former France boxing champ

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He was doxxed and arrested.

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(01-05-2019 04:06 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  I don't know what the deal is with this "Flying Rambo" guy.

What do you mean you don't know? That dude is fucking badass...
He rushes in with only his fists, takes the club hits to his arms and body, and then swings and connects with the helmet of the police officers multiple times - stunning them and forcing them back.

I'd be proud if I were French

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Armstrong Weighs in, seems to believe momentum is ongoing: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world...-movement/

Quote:The Yellow Vest Movement that began in France, is spreading. It appeared also in Belgium and it spread to Canada as well. The French arrested the leaders of the Yellow Vest Movement calling them an anti-government charging them for organizing an unauthorized protest, as authorities adopt a tougher approach to try to curb the demonstrations. During the weekend of December 15th, mimicking the Yellow Vest movement in France, protests have formed all over Canada. These are peaceful protests, unlike in France, but they have continued every weekend in various cities such as Toronto, Halifax, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Calgary etc, especially in Alberta and Saskatchewan.



Alberta has long been known as the oil province of Canada and is highly commodity driven. With NDP (New Democratic Party) preventing the expansion of the TransMountain Pipeline
from Alberta’s Edmonton to BC’s Burnaby after the project has already been approved by the federal government back in 2013, many people are unemployed. With oil in Western Canada
(Western Canadian Select) hitting $11.43 a barrel in November, companies simply cannot afford to stay in business. Combining this with the announcement that the price of vegetables
increased 4%-6% as of January 1st, it’s no wonder that many Canadians are frustrated.

This is also apparent as Calgary voted a resounding NO on a bid for hosting the 2026 Winter Olympics on November 13th. An estimate of $5.11 billion was announced with additional extra
costs which were never disclosed, people voted no to the increase the taxation in order to pay for it. The wrong event at the wrong time and people simply can’t afford to foot the bill.
Bottom line, too many taxes impact quality of life and no one will take to the streets when they are fat and happy.

What’s important here is that not only has Canada joined the Yellow Vest Movement, but it’s still going strong every weekend, Christmas, New Years, the protests against rising socialism
continue. Trudeau might have his work cut out for him before the next election in Canada in October 2019.
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(01-05-2019 09:51 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  Armstrong Weighs in, seems to believe momentum is ongoing: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world...-movement/

Quote:The Yellow Vest Movement that began in France, is spreading. It appeared also in Belgium and it spread to Canada as well. The French arrested the leaders of the Yellow Vest Movement calling them an anti-government charging them for organizing an unauthorized protest, as authorities adopt a tougher approach to try to curb the demonstrations. During the weekend of December 15th, mimicking the Yellow Vest movement in France, protests have formed all over Canada. These are peaceful protests, unlike in France, but they have continued every weekend in various cities such as Toronto, Halifax, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Calgary etc, especially in Alberta and Saskatchewan.



Alberta has long been known as the oil province of Canada and is highly commodity driven. With NDP (New Democratic Party) preventing the expansion of the TransMountain Pipeline
from Alberta’s Edmonton to BC’s Burnaby after the project has already been approved by the federal government back in 2013, many people are unemployed. With oil in Western Canada
(Western Canadian Select) hitting $11.43 a barrel in November, companies simply cannot afford to stay in business. Combining this with the announcement that the price of vegetables
increased 4%-6% as of January 1st, it’s no wonder that many Canadians are frustrated.

This is also apparent as Calgary voted a resounding NO on a bid for hosting the 2026 Winter Olympics on November 13th. An estimate of $5.11 billion was announced with additional extra
costs which were never disclosed, people voted no to the increase the taxation in order to pay for it. The wrong event at the wrong time and people simply can’t afford to foot the bill.
Bottom line, too many taxes impact quality of life and no one will take to the streets when they are fat and happy.

What’s important here is that not only has Canada joined the Yellow Vest Movement, but it’s still going strong every weekend, Christmas, New Years, the protests against rising socialism
continue. Trudeau might have his work cut out for him before the next election in Canada in October 2019.

The Yellow Vest movement is occurring in France (and throughout Western Europe) because the people have no other recourse than to protest (violently may I add). When reason fails, violence prevails. The leaders and their (((partners))) should have seen this one coming when they thought that they could push their globohomo BS onto the local populace.
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I drove trough France yesterday and I encountered some groups of yellow vests on the road. They were friendly, and not violent at all. They ‘hijacked’ a toll station on the highway (gare de péage) with some 100 people and let us through for free.
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I can only pray the Yellow Vests make it to my part of the world.

Are any RVF'ers on the street?

I can't think of a better movement to be a part of. You won't even get smeared as a nazi/rightwinger.
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As an American my hats off to the French. We elect President Trump, they form their populist movement. I've always said one of the most underrated aspects of President Trump is the rise of nationalism.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-0...protesters

"While Macron tried to portray his "En Marche" movement as fundamentally populist, he has endured criticisms that he is a "president for the rich" by refusing to raise wealth taxes. The destructive "Yellow Vest" protests, which broke out back in November amid widespread outrage over the proposed gas tax hikes, led to the sacking of Macron's capital city - and cities across the country - as well as a handful of deaths. Instead of listening to the people, Macron has sought to instead blame the protests on Russia, once again demonstrating just how out of touch he is with the people he governs."

They say taxes but me thinks it has a lot to do with getting cucked on immigration. I swore I read here on the forum the left in France is more nationalistic than the left over here in the states. Good luck gents!

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(01-06-2019 05:16 AM)Lime Wrote:  I drove trough France yesterday and I encountered some groups of yellow vests on the road. They were friendly, and not violent at all. They ‘hijacked’ a toll station on the highway (gare de péage) with some 100 people and let us through for free.

Relevant:


Yellow Vests getting more good PR as opposed to Antifa.

Wonder why?

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That boxer is one of the coolest motherfuckers I've seen in recent years. I don't hate the police or anything like that, and I understand the ones at that level are just following orders at risk of a job, but you've got to have respect for a guy who goes against someone in riot gear and batons with only his fists, a coat, and a pair of gloves.

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Black bloc group

"On occasion, police and security services have infiltrated black blocs, apparently for purposes of investigation, provocation. Allegations first surfaced after several demonstrations. At the 2001 G8 summit in Genoa, among the many complaints about the police[67] there was mention of video footage which "suggests that men in black were seen getting out of police vans near protest marches."[68] In August 2007, Quebec police admitted that "their officers disguised themselves as demonstrators" in Montebello. However, the officers purportedly did not engage in violence, and claimed that they were carrying rocks because other protesters were doing so. They were identified by genuine protesters because of their police-issue footwear.[69][70] According to veteran activist Harsha Walia, it was other participants in the black bloc who identified and exposed the undercover police.[71]
There is no evidence that the black bloc tactic is particularly vulnerable to infiltration, however, as investigatory – and even agent provocateur – activity has taken place regularly among completely nonviolent, non-"black bloc" campaigns. In 2003, the Oakland, California Police Department infiltrated a group of demonstrators protesting police brutality and the war in Iraq at the port; subpoenaed private comments by Captain Howard Jordan indicate that his plan was to steer the march away from the police station in order to avoid confrontation. In internal documents, Jordan mentioned this strategy was common in other police departments, including San Francisco and Seattle."[72]"

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