Post: #26

Trust the process? If your process is solid, work the plan.

$0.02

-g

Post: #27

(12-06-2018 04:53 PM)Tikimalore Wrote:  @off the reservations: Yeah because Iam burning a lot of numbers. But I can get mass numbers so I still have 6 and 7 girls. I banged 80 women so far. Banging some random mediocre girl just does not do it for my anymore. It not about getting a boner. I get a boner with 6 and 7. But after that I fell empty inside. I want deeper connections.

@minority: Its not like I am not good enough for an 8. My problem is that I rarely see one, so I cnat even try it. This is what frustrates me.

@tomz: You know what Iam talking about, we want the same. Women where we truly feel something inside. Because of her looks or of her character.

You describe the kind of place where social circle is pretty much mandatory for good results. Status in some form or another is important in most places for top quality.

If you're the kind of Chad that can attract the pickiest women, then you should be able to leverage that into being part of the best social circles. If you can't get them on home turf with enough frequency to stave off frustration, then you might not be as cool as you think you are.

Post: #28

(12-06-2018 02:42 PM)tomzestatlu Wrote:  It´s actually very interesting dynamics.
There are 3 factors you should offer. Status/money, look and game. Yes you can think of others, but these are the most basic.
The most of the guys here can be advocating for game, but that´s highest level. In order to have game, you must have a supply of status or looks. Ideally both.
To get the best girls, you gotta have all of them (or one totally maximized out) and still has to be at the right time at the right place and still there´s no guarantee. The biggest chances are, when you are handsome millionaire, who spends his free time in gym or flying around would banging chicks. But be honest, who has it.
On the other hand, when you are girl, you are only about your looks. And it´s either you are 10 or are not. If you are 6, you won´t get the millionaire, but still get a lot of thirsty guys willing to provide you.

I think a lot of guys, who got into game and suddenly got almost unlimited access to pussy are dealing with this problem. I would say I am this guy, OP is probably this guy and there are many of us, according to frequent discussion about this topic on forum.
But you can´t reach the high number with 9 and 10. They will be 8 at the best, but mostly 6-7. And that´s when you realize these low girls don´t satisfy you and it doesn´t matter, whether you are getting them, because you are well built or have game.

I am having this issue for longer time and started to strive for high quality girl. Of course I am banging lower quality girls but I am putting into it less and less energy and it has almost degraded for me on the level of jerking off. Some of the girls I banged were better, some worse, some were chubby, some weren´t. But non of those could satisfy my desires.
I see in my desires girl with long beautiful legs in skirt and beautiful face. But not any of the bangs I got satisfied my desire. Last girl like this was my ex-fiance. I am not saying she was 10, at the beginning she could be 8-9 for me, for someone maybe something lower. But she was exactly my type. Since breakup I am only using my looks to bang girls, who are grateful to bang such guy as I am. Sometimes a little bit game is also needed, because they still have a lot of thirsty orbiters.
10 is recognized by the fact she is 10 for everyone. There´s no divergence between judges, everyone wants her and it doesn´t matter whether you are virgin or alpha millionaire.

Last time I met such 10 in a bar. We had common friend there, so I can call it social circle game. I know why I took her attention that night, it was combination of game and looks. I just look good and didn´t give her much attention. She was the one, who had to come to me, when we were later in a club. On the other, she had a lot of friends there and tons of orbiters, so I had to swallow, when she stopped by another group of people. But I made her to be the one, who always initiate. Then one of my plate came there and I knew it´s time to leave. I told her to go with me, she agreed, but I again found her chatting with some group. I just told her bye and left, instead of nervously waiting, if she gives me attention. Later that night, she called me and we met of course.
Next time we met for a drink. I found out, her qualities are probably greater then only her looks. It has been few years ago, when I almost couldn´t get a bang and now I am hanging out with the hottest girl ever, looking and dressed like topmodel, meeting plates on every corner. Next time we met in sauna. I took it as invitation to her pussyland. As I am leaving her that night, we are kissing and talking about "next time". Next time never came of course.

That´s the rough reality. I used my look and game, but it wasn´t enough. Even the game was probably slowly dissapearing everytime we met. If she was one of the girls I´m banging regurarely, I would be like "bang or gtfo". But she wasn´t. It were definitely the most beautiful legs I touched and most stunning face I´ve ever kissed and it put me on thin ice. And then it makes me think about stupid things. Maybe if I picked her up in Audi A6 instead Citroen C3, if I had better game last date, if I´ve taken what I want violently, if I had more interesting job, if I had better sixpack, if my parents gave me house for birthday and I wouldn´t be paying monthly rent for stupid garsoniere,... simply stupid things. She´s beautiful girl, from wealthy family and maybe next day, she just got an offer from guy, who has both a lot of money and good look. The more I could offer. Or maybe it was just wrong time and place and she got back to her ex.

Next day after last date I took to my place one girl I fucked months before, I didn´t want to catch oneitis, which I catched anyway.. It was like changing Ferrari for old rusty car. I was so disgusted wtf is lying next to me in bed. But I just need some car to get me from A to be and the same I need some bitch to stick a dick in.

I get you, I get your pain, but let me tell you this - you really lost men.
WHY?
I belive in my self, I think im good looking not a model, i have achieved things in my life that im proud of, there were nights i did not sleep for months and i took heavy finical risks, but now i managed to buy assets (without loans who gives me) 8k passive income monthly

and you know what ? I dont give a fuck if a girl thinks i am not making 50k a month, is this 10 you talk about would want you for this things, she is trash.
i just dont understand guys who think that if they are with a 10, then that is something.

you know what i miss ? I miss the 7-8 ex gf i was with, she did give a fuck when i was poor, or i neglected my self because i was in such stress about the risks i took, she just wanted to spend time with me, talking to me (she was 11 for me)
(we broke up from different reasons)
that a girl you want, like really.

I sometimes go to Bars with bottle service, some of friends (who work in binary options) get like 30-50K income a month, We live like kings, im close to that income with my work (but its not binary but its also with stocks), because of that lifestyle - I can tell you that i banged few 9, maybe a 10 once. but i did not give a fuck on them day after because i knew they are with me because the saw me and my friends and the way we live ( we can spend 5k easily a night on drinks in a table)

I actually do a lot of tests to girls.
If you look to only fuck - then you can play the game and act like you super rich
but if you want to really want a pretty girl stick to YOU and not only to what you have.
then do not show everything you got right AWAY,

Post: #29

Waiting is loser mentality. You think a 9 will just walk into your life? I'm sure it's happened many times and you were invisible to them.
If you want more attractive girls how about putting in the work that makes you a more attractive man? Become a man of action or keep waiting, Loser.

Post: #30

I live in Germany over eight years now, and I can honestly say that the quality of women has dropped proportionally to the rise in their BMI. Note that I am talking about the same age demographic. In many cases, the 30+ women will be more attractive than the 20 to 26 age group, simply due to being in much better shape.

Post: #31

(12-21-2018 08:41 AM)AntoniusofEfa Wrote:  I live in Germany over eight years now, and I can honestly say that the quality of women has dropped proportionally to the rise in their BMI. Note that I am talking about the same age demographic. In many cases, the 30+ women will be more attractive than the 20 to 26 age group, simply due to being in much better shape.

Here there are not too much fans of German girls. Although I like them.

Post: #32

(12-21-2018 09:59 AM)Zoso Wrote:  

(12-21-2018 08:41 AM)AntoniusofEfa Wrote:  I live in Germany over eight years now, and I can honestly say that the quality of women has dropped proportionally to the rise in their BMI. Note that I am talking about the same age demographic. In many cases, the 30+ women will be more attractive than the 20 to 26 age group, simply due to being in much better shape.

Here there are not too much fans of German girls. Although I like them.

Some of the most beautiful girls Ive seen were german girls, both blondes and brunettes. Their face is so beautiful.

Post: #33

(12-21-2018 03:16 PM)pk9090 Wrote:  

(12-21-2018 09:59 AM)Zoso Wrote:  

(12-21-2018 08:41 AM)AntoniusofEfa Wrote:  I live in Germany over eight years now, and I can honestly say that the quality of women has dropped proportionally to the rise in their BMI. Note that I am talking about the same age demographic. In many cases, the 30+ women will be more attractive than the 20 to 26 age group, simply due to being in much better shape.

Here there are not too much fans of German girls. Although I like them.

Some of the most beautiful girls Ive seen were german girls, both blondes and brunettes. Their face is so beautiful.

No way. Some of the most masculine faces in Europe. Only the UK is worse.

Post: #34

(12-21-2018 09:48 PM)Aenema Wrote:  

(12-21-2018 03:16 PM)pk9090 Wrote:  

(12-21-2018 09:59 AM)Zoso Wrote:  

(12-21-2018 08:41 AM)AntoniusofEfa Wrote:  I live in Germany over eight years now, and I can honestly say that the quality of women has dropped proportionally to the rise in their BMI. Note that I am talking about the same age demographic. In many cases, the 30+ women will be more attractive than the 20 to 26 age group, simply due to being in much better shape.

Here there are not too much fans of German girls. Although I like them.

Some of the most beautiful girls Ive seen were german girls, both blondes and brunettes. Their face is so beautiful.

No way. Some of the most masculine faces in Europe. Only the UK is worse.

Yes, that is why its called 'Father Germany'

Post: #35

(12-20-2018 10:29 PM)jorge1 Wrote:  

(12-06-2018 02:42 PM)tomzestatlu Wrote:  It´s actually very interesting dynamics.
There are 3 factors you should offer. Status/money, look and game. Yes you can think of others, but these are the most basic.
The most of the guys here can be advocating for game, but that´s highest level. In order to have game, you must have a supply of status or looks. Ideally both.
To get the best girls, you gotta have all of them (or one totally maximized out) and still has to be at the right time at the right place and still there´s no guarantee. The biggest chances are, when you are handsome millionaire, who spends his free time in gym or flying around would banging chicks. But be honest, who has it.
On the other hand, when you are girl, you are only about your looks. And it´s either you are 10 or are not. If you are 6, you won´t get the millionaire, but still get a lot of thirsty guys willing to provide you.

I think a lot of guys, who got into game and suddenly got almost unlimited access to pussy are dealing with this problem. I would say I am this guy, OP is probably this guy and there are many of us, according to frequent discussion about this topic on forum.
But you can´t reach the high number with 9 and 10. They will be 8 at the best, but mostly 6-7. And that´s when you realize these low girls don´t satisfy you and it doesn´t matter, whether you are getting them, because you are well built or have game.

I am having this issue for longer time and started to strive for high quality girl. Of course I am banging lower quality girls but I am putting into it less and less energy and it has almost degraded for me on the level of jerking off. Some of the girls I banged were better, some worse, some were chubby, some weren´t. But non of those could satisfy my desires.
I see in my desires girl with long beautiful legs in skirt and beautiful face. But not any of the bangs I got satisfied my desire. Last girl like this was my ex-fiance. I am not saying she was 10, at the beginning she could be 8-9 for me, for someone maybe something lower. But she was exactly my type. Since breakup I am only using my looks to bang girls, who are grateful to bang such guy as I am. Sometimes a little bit game is also needed, because they still have a lot of thirsty orbiters.
10 is recognized by the fact she is 10 for everyone. There´s no divergence between judges, everyone wants her and it doesn´t matter whether you are virgin or alpha millionaire.

Last time I met such 10 in a bar. We had common friend there, so I can call it social circle game. I know why I took her attention that night, it was combination of game and looks. I just look good and didn´t give her much attention. She was the one, who had to come to me, when we were later in a club. On the other, she had a lot of friends there and tons of orbiters, so I had to swallow, when she stopped by another group of people. But I made her to be the one, who always initiate. Then one of my plate came there and I knew it´s time to leave. I told her to go with me, she agreed, but I again found her chatting with some group. I just told her bye and left, instead of nervously waiting, if she gives me attention. Later that night, she called me and we met of course.
Next time we met for a drink. I found out, her qualities are probably greater then only her looks. It has been few years ago, when I almost couldn´t get a bang and now I am hanging out with the hottest girl ever, looking and dressed like topmodel, meeting plates on every corner. Next time we met in sauna. I took it as invitation to her pussyland. As I am leaving her that night, we are kissing and talking about "next time". Next time never came of course.

That´s the rough reality. I used my look and game, but it wasn´t enough. Even the game was probably slowly dissapearing everytime we met. If she was one of the girls I´m banging regurarely, I would be like "bang or gtfo". But she wasn´t. It were definitely the most beautiful legs I touched and most stunning face I´ve ever kissed and it put me on thin ice. And then it makes me think about stupid things. Maybe if I picked her up in Audi A6 instead Citroen C3, if I had better game last date, if I´ve taken what I want violently, if I had more interesting job, if I had better sixpack, if my parents gave me house for birthday and I wouldn´t be paying monthly rent for stupid garsoniere,... simply stupid things. She´s beautiful girl, from wealthy family and maybe next day, she just got an offer from guy, who has both a lot of money and good look. The more I could offer. Or maybe it was just wrong time and place and she got back to her ex.

Next day after last date I took to my place one girl I fucked months before, I didn´t want to catch oneitis, which I catched anyway.. It was like changing Ferrari for old rusty car. I was so disgusted wtf is lying next to me in bed. But I just need some car to get me from A to be and the same I need some bitch to stick a dick in.

I get you, I get your pain, but let me tell you this - you really lost men.
WHY?
I belive in my self, I think im good looking not a model, i have achieved things in my life that im proud of, there were nights i did not sleep for months and i took heavy finical risks, but now i managed to buy assets (without loans who gives me) 8k passive income monthly

and you know what ? I dont give a fuck if a girl thinks i am not making 50k a month, is this 10 you talk about would want you for this things, she is trash.
i just dont understand guys who think that if they are with a 10, then that is something.

you know what i miss ? I miss the 7-8 ex gf i was with, she did give a fuck when i was poor, or i neglected my self because i was in such stress about the risks i took, she just wanted to spend time with me, talking to me (she was 11 for me)
(we broke up from different reasons)
that a girl you want, like really.

I sometimes go to Bars with bottle service, some of friends (who work in binary options) get like 30-50K income a month, We live like kings, im close to that income with my work (but its not binary but its also with stocks), because of that lifestyle - I can tell you that i banged few 9, maybe a 10 once. but i did not give a fuck on them day after because i knew they are with me because the saw me and my friends and the way we live ( we can spend 5k easily a night on drinks in a table)

I actually do a lot of tests to girls.
If you look to only fuck - then you can play the game and act like you super rich
but if you want to really want a pretty girl stick to YOU and not only to what you have.
then do not show everything you got right AWAY,

I understand you. I miss my ex-gf, had also other qualities than looks.
But I made the mistake, sometimes it feels so bad for losing her, especially recent weeks. So I am not advocating, that only looks matter. Money has been sensitive thing for me recently, because I took U-turn in my career way, that I was building since my 15 and now I have to struggle. Now it´s time for me to focus only on myself and meanwhile bang some nice girls and eventually find another one worth not spoiling it again.
...

More attractive mothers than daughers are the thing. You can see it very often. Sexy milf very well dressed, nice curves earned in the gym.. and next to her, her daughter with two chins, with cigarrete and mobile in the hands and totally tasteless clothes. Conclusion? These mothers are much better generation. They look better and I can have much more to talk about with them. They are also much more attracted to masculline guys. Honestly, when I take in consideration women I banged, the best bodies had those milfs, while only a small percent of young girls actually do have pretty body.

Post: #36

Sounds like you're hamstering.

Would it kill you to build some momentum and approach some 7s? If you're getting frustrated between sets, I think that means you're not doing enough sets.

Typically, if you decide to crunch sets, your first few sets are off, then you hit your stride and then you really pick up steam.

Post: #37

Enjoy the ride . Everyone bangs 5s and 6s on their way to 8s and 9s.

Post: #38

(12-06-2018 02:42 PM)tomzestatlu Wrote:  .....I took it as invitation to her pussyland. As I am leaving her that night, we are kissing and talking about "next time". Next time never came of course.

That´s the rough reality. I used my look and game, but it wasn´t enough.

Good post. Sounds like your game is tight.

One thing I learned is to not ask for the next time when you are out on the date. This is a little strange, but if when you leave the girl, she doesn't know if you are going to ask her out again, that keeps her wondering about your interest level. By talking about next time, you do give her security that you want to take her out another time.

It is not always practical, but something to keep in mind that if you are planning your next date while you are on your current date, then you it comes off as clingy.

Post: #39

(12-22-2018 01:35 PM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  

(12-06-2018 02:42 PM)tomzestatlu Wrote:  .....I took it as invitation to her pussyland. As I am leaving her that night, we are kissing and talking about "next time". Next time never came of course.

That´s the rough reality. I used my look and game, but it wasn´t enough.

Good post. Sounds like your game is tight.

One thing I learned is to not ask for the next time when you are out on the date. This is a little strange, but if when you leave the girl, she doesn't know if you are going to ask her out again, that keeps her wondering about your interest level. By talking about next time, you do give her security that you want to take her out another time.

It is not always practical, but something to keep in mind that if you are planning your next date while you are on your current date, then you it comes off as clingy.

To add more information, I never talk about next time. It´s total bullshit and kills everything. Situation was we are sitting in my car next to her place. We are kissing and as the "momentum" is ending, I say we should go to her place. It was late night and we both were getting up in few hours. She said that she eventually postpone it to the weekend, when we will have enough time for everything and don´t need to wake up early. Normally I would use the sexual tension and escalate hard and "violently", but because of the dehydratation from sauna, I had starting migraine and agreed.

Winter is weird, because I see total lack of really good girls. They are somewhere hidden or covered in layers of clothes and I can´t find them neither on the streets and clubs. Last really good woman I interacted with was 38 years old milf (she had actually some miraculous genes and looked really amazing) in a bar last saturday. Almost banged, but at the end she forced herself to change her mind. She was dancing with some orbiters and was giving me extreme IOI until she couldn´t make it and approached me.
What´s paying of the most to me, when it comes to quality girls is just not giving them enough attention. Because they are getting ridiculous amount of it from other thirsty guys. It´s only difficult to remain uninterested, when you are actually so much interested.
Some of you guys can claim that 38 old mother of two can´t be quality woman and yes, it´s not what I am searching for, I am 26, but it would be definitely awesome notch that night.