Post: #51

How are Indian guys supposed to get rid of such a thick accent?

Post: #52

OP the girls you desire don't desire you.

Yes you will be received better because your being introduced by a white guy, but the love will stop there.

Work on yourself and your image. Become high value, dress and behave like you're the shit. Don't rely on handouts from white guys or other guys.

I know a few brown guys that kill it in Toronto, they have game and confidence in spades.

Post: #53

(11-15-2018 12:22 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  OP the girls you desire don't desire you.

Yes you will be received better because your being introduced by a white guy, but the love will stop there.

Work on yourself and your image. Become high value, dress and behave like you're the shit. Don't rely on handouts from white guys or other guys.

I know a few brown guys that kill it in Toronto, they have game and confidence in spades.

I subscribe all you wrote.

We should never rely on others for pussy.

There are no freebies in this world.

Post: #54

(11-15-2018 12:22 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  OP the girls you desire don't desire you.

x100.

OP - if some girl is giving you the time of day only because of some OTHER guy she saw you with, but would never otherwise consider you, why would you even want her.

Post: #55

Why is no one asking the following, why do you have a homogeneous crew anyway? Some may think it's cliche of me to say this, but there is strength in diversity. It's like having all friends who are accountants vs friends who are doctors, lawyers, engineers, hustlers, drug dealers, fighters...etc. Ideally, you should have all these dudes no further than a call or text away. Can't you see benefit to having a crew like this? Thus followed to it's logical conclusion, you shouldn't be just a crew of brown guys who are trying to cross over to white bitches, you should have COOL people from various ethnicities in your circle. Have you ever seen a beer or spirit commercial where's than an unrealistically diverse and beautiful bunch of people partying on a rooftop? Doesn't it look like an incredible scene? Now imagine that energy from a homogenous group. Seems incongruent doesn't it? Take advantage of variety my friend. I think you'll find it pays dividends.

Post: #56

I sense too much defeatism on this thread. I will say that sometimes, reading these comments, its hard to tell the difference between someone whose defeated because of what they are and someone whose expressing the reality of the world around them.

The best you can do is not worry about what a some dumb lizards think and go out there and game the best you can. In the end, you either come back with your dick in your hand or you don't.

Post: #57

The path for brown/Indian men is an arduous one. Not necessarily because of our physical looks, but because of our deeply ingrained attitudes, beliefs and thought patterns.

As a poster in this thread alluded to earlier, we have been conquered by basically everyone in the world, in the last couple of thousand years, and they have really done a number on us. Our self esteem as Indian men is so low, our worship of people other than us, so ridiculous. Not blaming those who conquered us. It is our responsibility to address this.

We have petty, repulsive attitudes in regard to both race and women.

I know because I am one of the lightest skinned Indians you'll meet, to the point where most people think I'm Greek or Italian.

I have had women (mainly white), hit on me, and call me "good looking", "handsome" or "hot".

Yet the attitudes deeply ingrained in me have fucked up my dating life for most of my 20s. Things that other men do effortlessly, my attitudes have prevented me from doing.

And usually it's the attitude that, despite the woman being attracted to me now, she'll eventually realize I'm an Indian fraud. My dick (5.8inch) will be insufficient compared to an Anglo Aussie man's, my shoulders not broad enough, my upper body not muscular and athletic enough, despite how much weights I do. (Ironically, this demotivates me from lifting weights).

Indian men need to essentially look at everything in their life, and question it. Every aspect of our lives has been affected by this beta culture.

The Indian men who I have known (more Indian looking than me, but more driven to succeed), who have had the right attitude toward their improvement, have done fine.

Yet I also know 6'3 and 6'4 Indian men who get lusted over by women (there are not many black guys in Australia so they get some of that attention), who have "underachied" significantly in their dating life because of their attitudes. It's a damn shame.

I am currently going through a period of feeling sorry for myself. I need to get my shit together and toughen up.

It's not even about getting laid a lot. I just want to be okay with myself.

Post: #58

(11-11-2018 12:27 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  Most do not care that much for how rich you are, if that was the case then Indian doctors would be marrying tall hot suburban blondes all day long but we all know that isn't common.

The mental colonization is strong with this one. I find it funny, that the country with the strongest culture that has held off westernization is India, the country that overthrew Western colonization lifting the torch for African-Americans and African countries was India and the country that has a strong local media industry with the most endogamous and insular people who strongly prefer their own are Indians but one generation in the west and you get some foreign born Indians who attempt to bend reality based on their mentally colonized mindset.

Most Indian doctors are recent expats and they do not give two shits about blonde women. They eat dal and rice and view Whites as a decadent inferior people. Literally, they are there for the money and may settle there or leave after making enough.

DISCLAIMER : I do not think the whites are 'inferior' but it is important to give context to the discussion

PS : White women are the minority worldwide and hence they are the ones who are 'exotic' to most people not the other way around.

(11-11-2018 12:53 PM)thedarkknight Wrote:  The British did a number on their colonial TDK

Yes, a long time ago.

People are breaking out of it though. For all the weirdness of the Indian men on here most Indians are the most insular people on the planet with a strong sense of pride in their culture

Black women resemble this in many ways.

Can Black men say the same? I've heard Black women moaning about Black men and their propensity for a certain group of people. I went to a donald glover stand up where he joked about cumming when a white chick called him nigger. I don't know what point he was trying to make but that was fucking pathetic

Asians need to follow the lead of Black women and Indians because fuck me Thai and Japanese have no fucking backbone when it comes to the Whites. I think a resurgent and nationalistic China will break this cycle

Thankfully even in fringe areas of society like this which is infested with white supremacists people are waking up and seeing the world for what it is.

(11-14-2018 02:53 PM)Jaxon Wrote:  I genuinely feel like a lot of the extreme thirst for white women out there comes from porn.

You need to make a distinction that this is foreign born minorities.

Indian people are watching Desi porn which has 20x the views as Western porn considering their population. Japanese are watching Japanese porn and so on.

It is important to not that this is a fringe forum with fringe views being amplified since most people with normal lives don't really come on the internet

Case in point : Look around you Indian men are with Indian women and Indian women almost exclusively but according to this forum Indian men are chasing White women. I mean white women are viewed as easy and promiscuous in Indian culture which is why they get some unwanted attention in India but those are different issues.

(11-11-2018 04:25 PM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  Which white OP?

Bruh, all White people look the same

(11-15-2018 12:11 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  How are Indian guys supposed to get rid of such a thick accent?

The same way Americans get rid of that annoying nasal accent or Scousers stop talking as if they have phlgem in their throat.

Speaking clearly and pronouncing your words in a way people can understand is 50% of it not the 'accent'

The world is growing up with an 'Indian' accent now anyway considering the company that is the runaway leader in children videos is based in Chennai, India with characters voiced by Indians.

https://blog.feedspot.com/kids_youtube_channels/



The most viewed youtube channel is T-series which features Indian singers exclusively.






This guy speaks with an accent that a lot of Indians have now. Emulate that and its fine.

His one dead body, two dead body bit was hilarious as well

Post: #59

I can see it having value if one of the girls likes white guys but the other girl likes guys from some other race.

Post: #60

Basically all men get weaker in modern western culture. Indian men are no exception.

We know we are at a disadvantage in the dating market, and it's hard to take. We look for the escape, the oasis, the mirage to make us feel better about ourselves. For many Indians, that is white women.

The correct way- in line with the universal principles of masculinity- would be to work diligently on your value, get better looking, go out and talk to women, and accept what you can get. That will make you happy enough

Many Indian men in the west, however, cannot bear the fact that other men have it much easier than us. It is humiliating for our millineal western minds, that have become condition to immediate results.

Post: #61

Certainly helps and in some situations it does make the difference.

Post: #62

(11-16-2018 05:03 AM)One piece Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 12:27 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  Most do not care that much for how rich you are, if that was the case then Indian doctors would be marrying tall hot suburban blondes all day long but we all know that isn't common.

The mental colonization is strong with this one. I find it funny, that the country with the strongest culture that has held off westernization is India, the country that overthrew Western colonization lifting the torch for African-Americans and African countries was India and the country that has a strong local media industry with the most endogamous and insular people who strongly prefer their own are Indians but one generation in the west and you get some foreign born Indians who attempt to bend reality based on their mentally colonized mindset.

Most Indian doctors are recent expats and they do not give two shits about blonde women. They eat dal and rice and view Whites as a decadent inferior people. Literally, they are there for the money and may settle there or leave after making enough.

There are elements of truth to this.

The Uncle Tom among Indians is real. The antiblackness, the colorism...my family is fairly liberal but even I experienced that shit.

With that being said, most Indian immigrants (straight from India) seem a lot more comfortable with themselves than most Indian-Americans. You may see Indians thirsting for bobs and vagene, but you'll probably never see an Indian guy making posts like those written by a beer is enough. My parents were pretty confident in themselves and their culture -- far more than most Indian Americans that I've met (this includes myself at a younger age).

And yeah, Indian Indians definitely do not see whites as superior. They may look up to the west in some regards, and some view whites as being superior to black people or Muslims. With that being said, there are tons of stories about Indian parents disapproving of intermarriage with whites. My uncle married a white woman in the eighties. They probably got more pushback from his parents than from hers.

(11-16-2018 05:03 AM)One piece Wrote:  People are breaking out of it though. For all the weirdness of the Indian men on here most Indians are the most insular people on the planet with a strong sense of pride in their culture

Indians can be very critical of their culture, but at the same time, Indian culture is very difficult to subsume or destroy. Literal genocides by Muslim rulers completely failed to eradicate Hinduism of indigenous Indian culture.

(11-16-2018 05:03 AM)One piece Wrote:  You need to make a distinction that this is foreign born minorities.

Indian people are watching Desi porn which has 20x the views as Western porn considering their population. Japanese are watching Japanese porn and so on.

Are they? Indian porn isn't particularly common or popular anywhere. I've seen homemade porn from India, the quality isn't exactly good. Indians can access huge pornsites just like anyone else -- places where 99% of the stars are white.

(11-16-2018 05:03 AM)One piece Wrote:  It is important to not that this is a fringe forum with fringe views being amplified since most people with normal lives don't really come on the internet

Case in point : Look around you Indian men are with Indian women and Indian women almost exclusively but according to this forum Indian men are chasing White women. I mean white women are viewed as easy and promiscuous in Indian culture which is why they get some unwanted attention in India but those are different issues.

This is also true but the self hatred from Indians here is something I've definitely seen in real life. Tons of Indian Americans feel like they're naturally less attractive to women.

And yeah, I genuinely don't know what guys like a beer is enough are talking about...I barely see Indian women going interracial, maybe it's just where I live, but Indian women are easily one of the most endogamous groups out there.

Post: #63

We can go for pages talking about which race is better than the rest and giving everyone some history lesson but lets be practical here.

As redundant of a thread as OP might have posted, he wanted to get answers. I am still puzzled by why he wants one specific demographic when he is already doing fine with women of that race. I'll even argue that foreign white women are much better looking than their WASPy counterparts but to each his own I guess.

What has been the most troubling for me on this thread is that members who have openly confessed to struggling with the demographic in question are attempting to come off as some voice of authority here or even having the most to say. This does not even have to do with race as much as it has to do with just being practical. Now add to that this patronizing attitude of calling me an uncle tom when I was the only one that added a post with practical advice in it.

If you genuinely aren't attracted to women of a given group, why actually come on the thread to berate them? Why tell men to stop chasing them? Why is this thread even of any value to you? Why do you even care so much?

If I was genuinely not interested in a group of women, I wouldn't even care to post on the thread or even comment. It would not matter to me if other guys are going after them, more power to them.

Unless its bitterness towards being rejected by them, well we're all men here trying to help each other improve, why not admit it?

It takes a lot to put your ego aside and actually listen to the practical advice, doesn't help you with game but with life in general. Or you can go on for a few more pages whining about white women and how unfair it is that everyone wants them, isn't going to stop the millions of guys out there from chasing them and you'll only get older and more miserable crying about it.

Post: #64

(11-14-2018 06:39 PM)Jaxon Wrote:  A lot of people will be quick to shit on posters like the OP, but I think that posts like his reveal really fascinating aspects of social dynamics and psychology. I definitely look at white women a little differently now. I had a phase where all I wanted (as a minority) was white girls, but my experiences hooking up with them in college were so underwhelming that I started to question my preferences. It made me realize how much the average guy inflates their looks, and IMO, porn is the biggest culprit of this.
With that being said there are some gorgeous white girls out there, and I may think differently if I ever got with one. The hottest white girl I ever pulled was a 7 and a little more "alternative". I honestly never had luck with the sorority types beyond makeouts. I focused my efforts on ethnic girls who I knew would give me a better return on my time.

(11-14-2018 05:50 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  It is my personal perspective that a good chunk of white people have serious issues with race. I mean significantly worse than pretty much any other group.

Could you elaborate on this?

So, I ran a photography business back in the day (10 years ago). My game was mediocre, but I was in fantastic shape. I scored quite a few good looking white girls... which I did not really consider a big deal since I'm white myself. Just laying this background so you understand where I'm coming from.

Over time I feel like most of the American white girls that I've been with had some form of sexual hangups. Virtually all of them. This can make them freakier, but also much more difficult. Additionally, they seem to carry this idea that their life is a movie and they are the starlet. That gets fucking annoying fast.

When I say white people have a much more fucked up outlook on race... it's because our general view is one of superiority combined with guilt. You can feel superior or inferior... and thats' pretty normal. We all feel good or bad about something. The combination of guilt and shame on top of that... makes white people fucking insane on this topic. My sister is a prime example. She exclusively dates black men. Although when I say "dates" I use that term loosely. She generally uses black men as living dildos. We talked about it one time and I think she is nearly at a 200 body count. I also suspect that she does a lot of raceplay during her sessions.

It took me a while growing up... but having met black and asian people adopted and raised by white parents... I came to the conclusion that race doesn't really exist as we think of it. There are some minor mostly cosmetic differences, but the greatest variations are cultural. This is my opinion.

(11-15-2018 04:51 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  I must admit this to be an interesting post to analyze & dissect... so I'll chime in with my thoughts & beliefs. Now as a Black Man, I believe I’m unbiased when it comes to Game & Race analysis… but biased might slip in here & there.
Your Bang on with the idea of sexual prowess... but with all due respect, I believe the reasons to be related, but completely different. You see Black People... along with Indigenous Peeps... are the least valued races on an intellectual stand point... mainly due to average IQ's being lower. Fair enough. So as Black Men, we learn at a very young age that our mental abilities are not that much valued unfortunately... so the race to be the most charming & socially powerful on the block is full throttle for most black children at a young age. Now that I'm older, I essentially recognize that we become socialized with Game 101 tenets... and that's pretty much it.
Now when it's time to Game & Date, quite frankly we have a Huge Head Start compared to other races for the most part. Now I'm not saying we're the Best... but the kids who've been focused on getting good Grades won't be as charming as Tyronne & Pookie who've been collecting lunch money & had their High School homework’s done by several Becky’s (True Story Not Mine). Now nearly every White guy will fare better than Blacks in dating with any races outside of Black Women (simply due to White Guys not being down with Black Women strictly... so a "Win" by DQ Hehe!)
Now for the White Women who want to "Have some fun"... AND the 10%-15% of the lot who don't mind having it with a Black D... best believe a minimum of 2 Tyronne & 1 Pedro will go Deep in that A$$ & make that Booty Clap! The socialy good looking White Guy will still be at the top of the mountain… buy Tyronne & Pookie will unquestionably take some Pu$$y away from the Engineer who most likely wasn’t conditioned to be as charming as possible to be valued in society.
That "Being an uncontrollable beast" is simply pure Attraction we’ve been conditioned to have at a very young age! When being smart is not valued by most Black Women like that… trust me you learn how to get down with the program @ a Young Age! Now I’m far from being elite... and actually studied Game due to being a late bloomer… and even I get this “look” once in a while without trying! It just is! However If a magic wand existed, I would gladly switch thing up in order for us to be socialized to be as intellectually gifted as possible... even if we’d remain at the bottom of the ladder. That's not happening anytime soon though. Like every successful Playa knows... Pu$$y ain't even that valuable... and that's the Field we're really good at! Sad!

I really think this is a spot on analysis. I just want to add a few points. The first one being that I'm 100% certain that the US black IQ is entirely cultural and has no genetic component.

The second point is regarding how race and dating are currently intersecting in the US. I'd say you are 100% correct that nerdy white betas are losing a lot of opportunity to black guys. However, this is generally being compensated for by an increase in the number of asian girls who actually like nerdy betas.

The two groups of people who get shit on the heaviest in the US dating market are asian men and black women. I feel that black women as a group would do much better if they collectively dropped their obesity rate.

I've had this question for a long time. How much of female attraction depends entirely on stereotypes? I believe more and more that women are so completely susceptible to marketing and social pressure that at least at the screening level their attractions are heavily influenced by stereotyping. That applies to jobs, race, height... absolutely everything.

Post: #65

(11-16-2018 06:03 AM)Rorogue Wrote:  Basically all men get weaker in modern western culture. Indian men are no exception.
We know we are at a disadvantage in the dating market, and it's hard to take. We look for the escape, the oasis, the mirage to make us feel better about ourselves. For many Indians, that is white women.
The correct way- in line with the universal principles of masculinity- would be to work diligently on your value, get better looking, go out and talk to women, and accept what you can get. That will make you happy enough
Many Indian men in the west, however, cannot bear the fact that other men have it much easier than us. It is humiliating for our millineal western minds, that have become condition to immediate results.

I believe that if an Indian 9 and a European 9 were both sexually available but only 1 could be had... the majority of Indian men would choose the Indian woman and by a wide margin.

The thing is that Indian women are largely NOT SEXUALLY AVAILABLE. So, Indian guys go after the biggest pool of good looking sluts in the world. White girls. When they find it's a struggle it makes them feel bad.

I have tried it on many times with Indian women and my success rate is really bloody low. I do better when they are married, but the effort requirement jumps up really high so I'm not really willing to do that again.

Post: #66

(11-16-2018 01:59 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 06:39 PM)Jaxon Wrote:  A lot of people will be quick to shit on posters like the OP, but I think that posts like his reveal really fascinating aspects of social dynamics and psychology. I definitely look at white women a little differently now. I had a phase where all I wanted (as a minority) was white girls, but my experiences hooking up with them in college were so underwhelming that I started to question my preferences. It made me realize how much the average guy inflates their looks, and IMO, porn is the biggest culprit of this.
With that being said there are some gorgeous white girls out there, and I may think differently if I ever got with one. The hottest white girl I ever pulled was a 7 and a little more "alternative". I honestly never had luck with the sorority types beyond makeouts. I focused my efforts on ethnic girls who I knew would give me a better return on my time.

(11-14-2018 05:50 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  It is my personal perspective that a good chunk of white people have serious issues with race. I mean significantly worse than pretty much any other group.

Could you elaborate on this?

So, I ran a photography business back in the day (10 years ago). My game was mediocre, but I was in fantastic shape. I scored quite a few good looking white girls... which I did not really consider a big deal since I'm white myself. Just laying this background so you understand where I'm coming from.

Over time I feel like most of the American white girls that I've been with had some form of sexual hangups. Virtually all of them. This can make them freakier, but also much more difficult. Additionally, they seem to carry this idea that their life is a movie and they are the starlet. That gets fucking annoying fast.

When I say white people have a much more fucked up outlook on race... it's because our general view is one of superiority combined with guilt. You can feel superior or inferior... and thats' pretty normal. We all feel good or bad about something. The combination of guilt and shame on top of that... makes white people fucking insane on this topic. My sister is a prime example. She exclusively dates black men. Although when I say "dates" I use that term loosely. She generally uses black men as living dildos. We talked about it one time and I think she is nearly at a 200 body count. I also suspect that she does a lot of raceplay during her sessions.

It took me a while growing up... but having met black and asian people adopted and raised by white parents... I came to the conclusion that race doesn't really exist as we think of it. There are some minor mostly cosmetic differences, but the greatest variations are cultural. This is my opinion.

(11-15-2018 04:51 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  I must admit this to be an interesting post to analyze & dissect... so I'll chime in with my thoughts & beliefs. Now as a Black Man, I believe I’m unbiased when it comes to Game & Race analysis… but biased might slip in here & there.
Your Bang on with the idea of sexual prowess... but with all due respect, I believe the reasons to be related, but completely different. You see Black People... along with Indigenous Peeps... are the least valued races on an intellectual stand point... mainly due to average IQ's being lower. Fair enough. So as Black Men, we learn at a very young age that our mental abilities are not that much valued unfortunately... so the race to be the most charming & socially powerful on the block is full throttle for most black children at a young age. Now that I'm older, I essentially recognize that we become socialized with Game 101 tenets... and that's pretty much it.
Now when it's time to Game & Date, quite frankly we have a Huge Head Start compared to other races for the most part. Now I'm not saying we're the Best... but the kids who've been focused on getting good Grades won't be as charming as Tyronne & Pookie who've been collecting lunch money & had their High School homework’s done by several Becky’s (True Story Not Mine). Now nearly every White guy will fare better than Blacks in dating with any races outside of Black Women (simply due to White Guys not being down with Black Women strictly... so a "Win" by DQ Hehe!)
Now for the White Women who want to "Have some fun"... AND the 10%-15% of the lot who don't mind having it with a Black D... best believe a minimum of 2 Tyronne & 1 Pedro will go Deep in that A$$ & make that Booty Clap! The socialy good looking White Guy will still be at the top of the mountain… buy Tyronne & Pookie will unquestionably take some Pu$$y away from the Engineer who most likely wasn’t conditioned to be as charming as possible to be valued in society.
That "Being an uncontrollable beast" is simply pure Attraction we’ve been conditioned to have at a very young age! When being smart is not valued by most Black Women like that… trust me you learn how to get down with the program @ a Young Age! Now I’m far from being elite... and actually studied Game due to being a late bloomer… and even I get this “look” once in a while without trying! It just is! However If a magic wand existed, I would gladly switch thing up in order for us to be socialized to be as intellectually gifted as possible... even if we’d remain at the bottom of the ladder. That's not happening anytime soon though. Like every successful Playa knows... Pu$$y ain't even that valuable... and that's the Field we're really good at! Sad!

I really think this is a spot on analysis. I just want to add a few points. The first one being that I'm 100% certain that the US black IQ is entirely cultural and has no genetic component.

The second point is regarding how race and dating are currently intersecting in the US. I'd say you are 100% correct that nerdy white betas are losing a lot of opportunity to black guys. However, this is generally being compensated for by an increase in the number of asian girls who actually like nerdy betas.

The two groups of people who get shit on the heaviest in the US dating market are asian men and black women. I feel that black women as a group would do much better if they collectively dropped their obesity rate.

I've had this question for a long time. How much of female attraction depends entirely on stereotypes? I believe more and more that women are so completely susceptible to marketing and social pressure that at least at the screening level their attractions are heavily influenced by stereotyping. That applies to jobs, race, height... absolutely everything.

As a black man with a ton of single black female friends this is by and large the most difficult topic for them to discuss. American Black women have a weight problem and it doesn't become any more evident than randomly swiping on tinder in a large metropolitan area(a rural area would almost be too easy). You literally can count the number of avg sized to slender black women on two hands if you swipe for 5 minutes. There struggle is similar to a lot of guys first getting into pickup, they can't acknowledge that they have some physical housekeeping to take care of before they start seeing improvements in their dating life. The sooner you can acknowledge and take care of those small physical handicaps like weight and grooming the quicker you'll be on a road to success

Post: #67

(11-16-2018 03:34 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  As a black man with a ton of single black female friends this is by and large the most difficult topic for them to discuss. American Black women have a weight problem and it doesn't become any more evident than randomly swiping on tinder in a large metropolitan area(a rural area would almost be too easy). You literally can count the number of avg sized to slender black women on two hands if you swipe for 5 minutes. There struggle is similar to a lot of guys first getting into pickup, they can't acknowledge that they have some physical housekeeping to take care of before they start seeing improvements in their dating life. The sooner you can acknowledge and take care of those small physical handicaps like weight and grooming the quicker you'll be on a road to success

I forgot to add that there is some extreme power to pussy. It's like air... we simply never think about it until you can't get any... then it becomes the only thing you think about. The human need to reproduce is our endgame.

I really don't have too much to say in this thread which is essentially about white female worship about the state of black women in America. I think part of it is that so many black men are chubby chasers. One of my neighbors is a black guy who is so handsome when he mows the lawn with his shirt off women actually slow down to look while driving by. His wife looks like Jabba the Hut with a blond wig on.

Here is the thing... American women of all colors are so fucking lazy. They are much more interested in pushing fat acceptance than losing weight. The unfortuneate thing is that we as men are so busy competing with each other that when the bitches come at us as a united front we can't push back. Normally our elite men would save us by passing laws that help us out, but ours are total shit.

Post: #68

(11-11-2018 09:07 AM)SLSlayer Wrote:  As a short brown guy in Toronto, almost all of my pulls from night game in my city have been the following:

Foreign girls
Ethnic girls
30+ white women
Out of town white women

Young WASP girls local to Toronto are nearly impossible for me. Most will reject me at "How's your night going" - refusing to look at my face or acknowledge me. Unfortunately, they also comprise the majority of available women at nightlife venues in my city - just not available to me.

This week, for the first time I rolled with a rare breed - a young, non-autistic, above average height white guy who isn't afraid to cold approach (most young white guys in my city leverage Tinder/IG/bottle game, and the white guys who cold approach RSD style are short, autistic or immigrant/Eastern European).

He consistently got better reactions than me when cold approaching. I'd approach her friends or he'll introduce me to them, and the friends would be receptive - far more receptive than had I approached alone or with an ethnic wingman. This allowed me to get my foot in the door and run my game.

I've also noticed a strong white/ethnic social divide in my city, with ethnic guys getting shot down immediately while white guys can at least get their foot in the door and talk. I wonder if these ethnic guys would do better if they had a white guy wingman to vouch for them.

For ethnic (non-white/non-black) guys here, have you noticed a difference when rolling with a white wingman?

Your results suck because your mindset sucks. I'm located in Toronto too. I know a lot of brown guys in the game here. The ones that don't suck don't think like you and the ones who do, do think like you. Just being honest.

The reason why brown and Asian guys have such a hard time here is because they make game harder for themselves.

Post: #69

Bluepilled thinking. Studies show changing your name to Ahmed or the like on tinder reduces matches. I’ve been unmatched after disclosing ethnicity by chicks I was having conversations with (they asked).

That being said, yes mindset and effort is key. But to deny discrimination is to deny data and science

Post: #70

(11-15-2018 04:51 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  Your Bang on with the idea of sexual prowess... but with all due respect, I believe the reasons to be related, but completely different. You see Black People... along with Indigenous Peeps... are the least valued races on an intellectual stand point... mainly due to average IQ's being lower. Fair enough. So as Black Men, we learn at a very young age that our mental abilities are not that much valued unfortunately... so the race to be the most charming & socially powerful on the block is full throttle for most black children at a young age. Now that I'm older, I essentially recognize that we become socialized with Game 101 tenets... and that's pretty much it.

Now when it's time to Game & Date, quite frankly we have a Huge Head Start compared to other races for the most part. Now I'm not saying we're the Best... but the kids who've been focused on getting good Grades won't be as charming as Tyronne & Pookie who've been collecting lunch money & had their High School homework’s done by several Becky’s (True Story Not Mine). Now nearly every White guy will fare better than Blacks in dating with any races outside of Black Women (simply due to White Guys not being down with Black Women strictly... so a "Win" by DQ Hehe!)

I see what you're getting at, but I have to respond to this. As a kid, I never grew up with those "Game 101 tenets" or huge "head start" that you speak of. My family is from the Caribbean but they're a rather conservative bunch that were somewhat sheltering toward the children (including myself when I was younger). Academics and doing well in school was considered important, but that was mostly to get a decent job (usually at a hospital or in social work) in the hopes of being able to support the aging adults. While many of the younger people in my family embraced this set path, I shunned it, and wound up having more academic prowess (and better career opportunities) than any of my immediate relatives and most of my peers.

This came at a price, though, as I was always considered "different" compared to many of the black people around me. My family saw this and so did other black kids I went to school with. There is no other period in my life where I saw more criticism and bullying than in my childhood and teenage years. And it really wasn't until I got into college (and far away from my home) that I really started to encounter different people and have experiences with girls. I had never kissed a girl until my second semester of college.

I'm definitely a late bloomer, and much of that was because of things beyond my control. However, this idea that every black guy can easily benefit from the ostensibly popular image of the "sexual chocolate" black man just isn't right. If a guy doesn't fit that mold it can be much harder to get girls that aren't black.

Post: #71

Stop putting white women on a pedestal and you'll start fucking them, pretty simple. I can just imagine how goofy you are when you approach them, probably trying to act "cooler" than you really are. Start going after attractive women of all races and other women will notice. this is like Basic 101 shit

Post: #72

(11-16-2018 01:51 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  We can go for pages talking about which race is better than the rest and giving everyone some history lesson but lets be practical here.

As redundant of a thread as OP might have posted, he wanted to get answers. I am still puzzled by why he wants one specific demographic when he is already doing fine with women of that race. I'll even argue that foreign white women are much better looking than their WASPy counterparts but to each his own I guess.

What has been the most troubling for me on this thread is that members who have openly confessed to struggling with the demographic in question are attempting to come off as some voice of authority here or even having the most to say. This does not even have to do with race as much as it has to do with just being practical. Now add to that this patronizing attitude of calling me an uncle tom when I was the only one that added a post with practical advice in it.

If you genuinely aren't attracted to women of a given group, why actually come on the thread to berate them? Why tell men to stop chasing them? Why is this thread even of any value to you? Why do you even care so much?

If I was genuinely not interested in a group of women, I wouldn't even care to post on the thread or even comment. It would not matter to me if other guys are going after them, more power to them.

Unless its bitterness towards being rejected by them, well we're all men here trying to help each other improve, why not admit it?

It takes a lot to put your ego aside and actually listen to the practical advice, doesn't help you with game but with life in general. Or you can go on for a few more pages whining about white women and how unfair it is that everyone wants them, isn't going to stop the millions of guys out there from chasing them and you'll only get older and more miserable crying about it.

I've honestly just noticed a lot of pedestalization of white women both online and in real life. I try to call it out when I can. I think the colonized mindset is easily, hands down what holds back most minorities in the game. I know for a fact that it especially cripples Indians and Asians. The difference between a minority who owns his culture and identity and one who views white women/people as some kind of prize is huge. I've gone through this transformation myself. It's literally a night and day difference in your mentality and overall happiness.

Just look at OP -- he does fine with certain groups that have a ton of hot women. Yet he's obsessing over Anglo white girls -- in one of the most diverse and multicultural cities on the planet. Why? Even if there are plenty of hot Anglo white girls, there are also probably hundreds of thousands of hot black, brown, Asian, European, etc women. Why would obsess over one niche when you can find hot girls, LTR material in another?

I definitely do think that a lot of this pedestalization comes from porn. Can't speak for everyone here, but I've met people who see white 5s as being better looking than absolutely banging black girls. I literally met a Bangladeshi kid once who said he'd never ever fuck a black girl (regardless of looks), but was down to hook up with a mentally ill, homeless-looking white girl lived in our dorm. That's the kind of weird bullshit that I'm talking about.

Post: #73

Why do the replies in this thread keep saying 'colonized mindset' when the OP made it clear upfront that girls don't even linger on past "Hello" and care to see a 'decolonized mindset'?

Post: #74

What holds Asian and Indian men back the most in game is a lack of traits that generally make men attractive to women. Most Asian and Indian men are shorter than average, not as confident, don't look like they lift as much compared to other races and don't really pursue the game lifestyle as aggressively as men from other races do (and PUA bootcamps do not count). The reason OP doesn't get as much replies lingering past a hello is because he is likely the typical brown guy, it would take a lot for these girls to consider him given that they are surrounded by Channing Tatum lookalikes on the regular.

With that being said, every single Asian or Indian guy I have known who had a lot of attractive traits going for him had no issues with white women. I have mentioned it many times on countless threads that white women care the least about race once you are attractive enough.

As for the "colonial mindset", its called a preference and guys are allowed to like what they like. If a guy wants to pass up a good looking girl because she is black or Asian, that's his preference and every guy is allowed to have one just like every girl has one. I am not sure why you're trying to imply we all have an obligation to get with a certain race of women to prove we're not in a colonial mindset, I go for women I find attractive, did I miss something here?

I also don't know why you're so concerned with what men find attractive, yes men love white women more than black women, so what? It puzzles me why some dudes invest so much energy into what other men find attractive and try so hard to change it, there are far better ways to spend your time. I don't think anyone doing this is genuinely happy. It doesn't bother me if a guy chases his own race, other races, white girls or even says fuck it altogether and goes gay, not my life not my concern.

The whole campaign towards stopping guys from chasing white women is a waste of time, let men chase what they want and if you have so much of an issue with white women, don't game them. Go fuck the other races and let other guys be.

Post: #75

OP if your getting white women already, why does it matter if they WASPy? The pussy will not have sticker on it to differentiate between WASPy or not lol. To be honest it wont matter if you have a white wingman or not because women first attention goes to your physical appearance.

Besides why does it matter if you get white women or not. Go after some black women lol. Why do all brown guys obsesses over white women but believe black women are beneath them.