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RE: How Important is a White Wingman for Non-White/Non-Black guys?
(11-11-2018 12:53 PM)thedarkknight Wrote: Wow.
People really do worship white women.
The British did a number on their colonial subjects.
Now I know why white women get raped so damn much.
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They raped less than any other group of females in the world... the difference is that everyone cares about it way more.
Here is the thing about bullshit ideas like white superiority... non-white men have to actually believe that shit for it to have an effect.
(11-11-2018 01:58 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote: I get hotter non-white women than I do white women and I legitimately am satisfied with that. It can be a freeing.
I spent the first 12 years of my adult life fucking around exclusively with white girls. That probably isn't surprising because I'm a white guy. None of them every really treated me all that well.
Now that I have experienced women from other cultures... I really don't know why some guys have this obsession.
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RE: How Important is a White Wingman for Non-White/Non-Black guys?
Real story, a couple weeks ago in a bar that I normally frequent, a young guy, certainly less than 30 yo, he looked Indian or Pakistani, pulled up some white woman, also a tourist, she had a lovely dress, and had a long and well treated blonde hair, it was truly a delight for both of them, they where making out like there was no tomorrow, all was passion, and lust, a strong desire, plenty of intimacy, real romance... I was seriously in shock...
...because she was probably around 70 yo.
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RE: How Important is a White Wingman for Non-White/Non-Black guys?
Real question is why you're trying to go after women who automatically dismiss you based on race. It's Toronto. There are millions of women of every ethnicity there. There are hot Tamil girls. There are hot Trinidadian girls. There are hot Asian girls. There are hot South American girls. There are international women from every corner of the world. There are even hot ethnic European girls from what I gather if you're into white women in particular.
Part of success in game and in life is knowing where you'll do well. I'll give you an example. Three years ago I was at a majority black hip hop club. I tried spitting game and got blown out hard. The girls there barely looked at me. There were a couple thugged out, well connected black guys there who were monopolizing the hottest girls. I got absolutely nowhere. I think one girl there danced with me out of pity.
A year later, I landed up in Los Angeles. I was living near a large school, and would run into tons of students on my walk to my BJJ/boxing class. It being Los Angeles, there were some gorgeous black girls there. I ended up approaching a couple -- daygaming them as a random guy -- and had great success. I FWB'ed a beautiful African girl who dated a ball player before me. I hooked up with a hot black girl studying film, an extremely attractive Moroccan girl, and a cute black girl from Wyoming.
Moral of the story is -- get in where you fit in. I could have kept going to that one hip hop club, get blown out, and complain on the internet about it. Instead, once I changed my location, I found that I was having great success with that same demographic and capitalized on it. Black girls in the city where I went to the hip hop club were impossible for me. Black girls in Los Angeles were not at all. The issue obviously isn't racism, it's just that different women in different locations have different preferences and different vibes. And for all I know, I was just at the hip hop club on an off night -- had I gotten lucky with a girl there, I wouldn't even be writing this post.
All I'm saying is, don't overthink it. If you want quality girls, there are definitely quality girls out there in Toronto from a variety of ethnicities. You just have to figure where and how you'll best be able to meet them. And I have to say, you don't want to be with or even just sleep with a woman who only likes you because you have friends of her race. Apart from getting your nut, you don't at all win from such an experience. Life isn't about trying to fuck as many girls as possible regardless of their quality as people, it's about finding the PEOPLE you actually like and connect with.
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RE: How Important is a White Wingman for Non-White/Non-Black guys?
(11-13-2018 11:42 PM)Jaxon Wrote: Real question is why you're trying to go after women who automatically dismiss you based on race. It's Toronto. There are millions of women of every ethnicity there. There are hot Tamil girls. There are hot Trinidadian girls. There are hot Asian girls. There are hot South American girls. There are international women from every corner of the world. There are even hot ethnic European girls from what I gather if you're into white women in particular.
Part of success in game and in life is knowing where you'll do well. I'll give you an example. Three years ago I was at a majority black hip hop club. I tried spitting game and got blown out hard. The girls there barely looked at me. There were a couple thugged out, well connected black guys there who were monopolizing the hottest girls. I got absolutely nowhere. I think one girl there danced with me out of pity.
A year later, I landed up in Los Angeles. I was living near a large school, and would run into tons of students on my walk to my BJJ/boxing class. It being Los Angeles, there were some gorgeous black girls there. I ended up approaching a couple -- daygaming them as a random guy -- and had great success. I FWB'ed a beautiful African girl who dated a ball player before me. I hooked up with a hot black girl studying film, an extremely attractive Moroccan girl, and a cute black girl from Wyoming.
Moral of the story is -- get in where you fit in. I could have kept going to that one hip hop club, get blown out, and complain on the internet about it. Instead, once I changed my location, I found that I was having great success with that same demographic and capitalized on it. Black girls in the city where I went to the hip hop club were impossible for me. Black girls in Los Angeles were not at all. The issue obviously isn't racism, it's just that different women in different locations have different preferences and different vibes. And for all I know, I was just at the hip hop club on an off night -- had I gotten lucky with a girl there, I wouldn't even be writing this post.
All I'm saying is, don't overthink it. If you want quality girls, there are definitely quality girls out there in Toronto from a variety of ethnicities. You just have to figure where and how you'll best be able to meet them. And I have to say, you don't want to be with or even just sleep with a woman who only likes you because you have friends of her race. Apart from getting your nut, you don't at all win from such an experience. Life isn't about trying to fuck as many girls as possible regardless of their quality as people, it's about finding the PEOPLE you actually like and connect with.
Gotta say man this was a pretty solid post. Another testament to the fact that we gotta stop painting everybody from a group with one single brush. Looks like your change of scenery (Los Angeles) coupled with daygame style approaches (the scenic walk back from BJJ / boxing class) gave you completely different results.
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RE: How Important is a White Wingman for Non-White/Non-Black guys?
I genuinely feel like a lot of the extreme thirst for white women out there comes from porn.
I can't even really blame colonialism, because its not like first-generation ethnic immigrants in the nineties were thirsting after white girls. My dad and his friends could have given a fuck about white girls -- all their beauty standards growing up were from their ethnicity. Even though their home country was colonized, they didn't obsess over white girls the way people do now. Some people from their generation married white women. Their parents (my grandparents) disapproved at first -- eventually those couples were accepted and treated normally. Conversely, a lot of immigrants and non-whites these days seem to see white women as a step up -- a status symbol to be achieved. Weirdly enough, non-white immigrants seemed to have a healthier view of white women back in the 70's, 80's, and 90's than they do now.
There are a lot of reasons for this, but the spread of accessible pornography is easily the biggest one. You can jerk off to porn once or twice a day, every day, for years upon end -- all for free. You have access to an enormous library of erotic media -- millions of attractive women getting undressed and fucked. This is something unprecedented in human history -- the fact that it would warp people's psychology is obvious and well documented.
I think this extends to racial preferences as well. The vast, vast majority of pornstars out there are white, with Asians coming in at a distant second and Latinas at an even more distant third. Yeah, there are a couple pornstars like Asa Akira or Mia Khalifa out there, but a good 95% of the porn that men watch features white women. To me, it's pretty obvious -- if you've had millions of orgasms to a woman of a particular race, you'd probably be more attracted to women of that race. It's Pavlovian conditioning. If every single pornstar out there was black, attractive black girls would be pedestalized beyond belief. I've seen guys who thought attractive black, Indian, or Latina women were less attractive than decidedly average white women. I can't help but think that porn plays a huge role in this.
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RE: How Important is a White Wingman for Non-White/Non-Black guys?
(11-14-2018 02:56 PM)Kish Wrote: ^^^Don't forget Movies and TV shows.
Yeah, but porn has a bigger influence on people's sexuality than movies/TV do. Exclusively watching BET wouldn't make me want to bang black girls as much as exclusively watching ebony porn once a day, every single day, for years out of my life. If you've watched porn on average once a day for ten years, you've had 3,650 orgasms, most of which were to white women. This is significantly more than the number of actual orgasms that the average man has had with women period, let alone the number of orgasms people have while watching YouTube videos (as far as I know most people aren't jerking off to BET, the news, or fail compilations on YouTube).
I think TV has a bigger influence on women's preferences than men's. I'm sure the black characters in shows like New Girl, the multitude of black football players, etc have all given black men a leg up with women in terms of positive stereotypes.
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RE: How Important is a White Wingman for Non-White/Non-Black guys?
(11-11-2018 03:27 PM)thedarkknight Wrote: Why would you want to be with a group of women who only want you at your best but, ordinarily, wouldn’t even sit next to you on the subway?
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the best women of any race want guys at there best and I don't fault them for it.
It's interesting that most pua forums consistently have numerous threads started by minorities about how to get white women. it's also interesting that most of the men pining after white women aren't too successful with their own kind. maybe we can do some reverse engineering and figure out the problem.
i'm a black man and i love white women, but not because they are more attractive than any other woman, but because they are easy. An objective 8 white chick is gonna be exponentially easier for me to fuck than an objective 8 black, hispanic or middle eastern chick. It's not even fucking close. This to me is a virtuous reason to like white women.
White women are on average a good bit wealthier than all other women thus they can afford better upkeep (teeth.vision fitness), better diets (organic foods..etc) and have less things in general to worry about to make allowance for them to sexually express themselves with far less restraint than a woman who has to worry about keeping her lights on or getting water from a well 5 miles away.
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RE: How Important is a White Wingman for Non-White/Non-Black guys?
(11-14-2018 02:53 PM)Jaxon Wrote: I genuinely feel like a lot of the extreme thirst for white women out there comes from porn.
If every single pornstar out there was black, attractive black girls would be pedestalized beyond belief. I've seen guys who thought attractive black, Indian, or Latina women were less attractive than decidedly average white women. I can't help but think that porn plays a huge role in this.
This is turning into a really interesting discussion.
When I think about my own personal preferences... I have often wondered how much of a role porn has played. I was a teen in the late 90's, but the only porn I had access to was from the 60's and 70's until college. It's weird but I prefer women with pubic hair. I sometimes wonder if that's because of my early intro to porn, or whether it's because the first women I ever slept with didn't shave.
I believe this could be applied perhaps to ethnicity as well.
It is my personal perspective that a good chunk of white people have serious issues with race. I mean significantly worse than pretty much any other group.
(11-14-2018 04:50 PM)quaker13 Wrote: Not so sure about the whole jews pushing white women and black men thing. White women don't watch porn at the same rate of men. There aren't enough white women watching interracial porn to account for all the BM/WF couple you see on a given day, week or month. Black men have been the number one marketers of their sexual prowess not jews. Granted jews control the porn industry in addition to the entertainment industry, i'm still not that convinced they have any real substantial influence on interracial dating particularly BM/WF. Black men, be them African or African American or African Latino, are generally the most aggressive gamers. It would stand to reason that you would see black men have dated outside their race than any other race of man. Regardless of how good or bad black men are at game you can clearly see through the numbers game that they have been awarded for their efforts.
So, the idea of black sexual prowess is a slavery era concept. The idea that black men are closer to animals and unable to control their sexual desires was used to convince people that they must be held down. It used to apply to black women just as strongly as black men.
Here is the thing. Being a big dangerous uncontrollable beast that is taboo to sleep with will turn perhaps 20% of the female population on. Women love doing things that are taboo. I don't know why but it creates a sense of sexual excitement. If you don't believe me... fuck a married woman someday.
On the other hand... Being assumed to be big and dangerous also gets you shot by cops... so it's a tradeoff.
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RE: How Important is a White Wingman for Non-White/Non-Black guys?
(11-14-2018 05:50 PM)EndsExpect Wrote: This is turning into a really interesting discussion.
A lot of people will be quick to shit on posters like the OP, but I think that posts like his reveal really fascinating aspects of social dynamics and psychology. I definitely look at white women a little differently now. I had a phase where all I wanted (as a minority) was white girls, but my experiences hooking up with them in college were so underwhelming that I started to question my preferences. It made me realize how much the average guy inflates their looks, and IMO, porn is the biggest culprit of this.
With that being said there are some gorgeous white girls out there, and I may think differently if I ever got with one. The hottest white girl I ever pulled was a 7 and a little more "alternative". I honestly never had luck with the sorority types beyond makeouts. I focused my efforts on ethnic girls who I knew would give me a better return on my time.
(11-14-2018 05:50 PM)EndsExpect Wrote: It is my personal perspective that a good chunk of white people have serious issues with race. I mean significantly worse than pretty much any other group.
Could you elaborate on this?
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RE: How Important is a White Wingman for Non-White/Non-Black guys?
(11-14-2018 05:50 PM)EndsExpect Wrote: (11-14-2018 02:53 PM)Jaxon Wrote: I genuinely feel like a lot of the extreme thirst for white women out there comes from porn.
If every single pornstar out there was black, attractive black girls would be pedestalized beyond belief. I've seen guys who thought attractive black, Indian, or Latina women were less attractive than decidedly average white women. I can't help but think that porn plays a huge role in this.
This is turning into a really interesting discussion.
When I think about my own personal preferences... I have often wondered how much of a role porn has played. I was a teen in the late 90's, but the only porn I had access to was from the 60's and 70's until college. It's weird but I prefer women with pubic hair. I sometimes wonder if that's because of my early intro to porn, or whether it's because the first women I ever slept with didn't shave.
I believe this could be applied perhaps to ethnicity as well.
It is my personal perspective that a good chunk of white people have serious issues with race. I mean significantly worse than pretty much any other group.
(11-14-2018 04:50 PM)quaker13 Wrote: Not so sure about the whole jews pushing white women and black men thing. White women don't watch porn at the same rate of men. There aren't enough white women watching interracial porn to account for all the BM/WF couple you see on a given day, week or month. Black men have been the number one marketers of their sexual prowess not jews. Granted jews control the porn industry in addition to the entertainment industry, i'm still not that convinced they have any real substantial influence on interracial dating particularly BM/WF. Black men, be them African or African American or African Latino, are generally the most aggressive gamers. It would stand to reason that you would see black men have dated outside their race than any other race of man. Regardless of how good or bad black men are at game you can clearly see through the numbers game that they have been awarded for their efforts.
So, the idea of black sexual prowess is a slavery era concept. The idea that black men are closer to animals and unable to control their sexual desires was used to convince people that they must be held down. It used to apply to black women just as strongly as black men.
Here is the thing. Being a big dangerous uncontrollable beast that is taboo to sleep with will turn perhaps 20% of the female population on. Women love doing things that are taboo. I don't know why but it creates a sense of sexual excitement. If you don't believe me... fuck a married woman someday.
On the other hand... Being assumed to be big and dangerous also gets you shot by cops... so it's a trade off.
I must admit this to be an interesting post to analyze & dissect... so I'll chime in with my thoughts & beliefs. Now as a Black Man, I believe I’m unbiased when it comes to Game & Race analysis… but biased might slip in here & there.
Your Bang on with the idea of sexual prowess... but with all due respect, I believe the reasons to be related, but completely different. You see Black People... along with Indigenous Peeps... are the least valued races on an intellectual stand point... mainly due to average IQ's being lower. Fair enough. So as Black Men, we learn at a very young age that our mental abilities are not that much valued unfortunately... so the race to be the most charming & socially powerful on the block is full throttle for most black children at a young age. Now that I'm older, I essentially recognize that we become socialized with Game 101 tenets... and that's pretty much it.
Now when it's time to Game & Date, quite frankly we have a Huge Head Start compared to other races for the most part. Now I'm not saying we're the Best... but the kids who've been focused on getting good Grades won't be as charming as Tyronne & Pookie who've been collecting lunch money & had their High School homework’s done by several Becky’s (True Story Not Mine). Now nearly every White guy will fare better than Blacks in dating with any races outside of Black Women (simply due to White Guys not being down with Black Women strictly... so a "Win" by DQ Hehe!)
Now for the White Women who want to "Have some fun"... AND the 10%-15% of the lot who don't mind having it with a Black D... best believe a minimum of 2 Tyronne & 1 Pedro will go Deep in that A$$ & make that Booty Clap! The socialy good looking White Guy will still be at the top of the mountain… buy Tyronne & Pookie will unquestionably take some Pu$$y away from the Engineer who most likely wasn’t conditioned to be as charming as possible to be valued in society.
That "Being an uncontrollable beast" is simply pure Attraction we’ve been conditioned to have at a very young age! When being smart is not valued by most Black Women like that… trust me you learn how to get down with the program @ a Young Age! Now I’m far from being elite... and actually studied Game due to being a late bloomer… and even I get this “look” once in a while without trying! It just is! However If a magic wand existed, I would gladly switch thing up in order for us to be socialized to be as intellectually gifted as possible... even if we’d remain at the bottom of the ladder. That's not happening anytime soon though. Like every successful Playa knows... Pu$$y ain't even that valuable... and that's the Field we're really good at! Sad!
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RE: How Important is a White Wingman for Non-White/Non-Black guys?
You're all overthinking this.
Black women have the highest obesity rate of any group in America.
Quote:African American women have the highest rates of being overweight or obese compared to other groups in the U.S. About four out of five African American women are overweight or obese.
In 2015, African American women were 60 percent more likely to be obese than non-Hispanic white women.
They also tend to have terrible attitudes.
Now what's your average Black man supposed to do?
Resign himself to his fate and date a hambeast with an attitude?
When he's surrounded by millions and millions of Beckys, who, for all their faults, are at least not (that) fat and open to dating him?
What's the rational choice here?
And then also keep in mind that Black men are a nice option for your average Stacy to easily date up and punch above her paygrade.
It's really not rocket science.
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