Post: #251

(10-24-2018 03:22 AM)Enhanced Eddie Wrote:  I also can't recall saying that I'm unable to get my act together... maybe you're projecting. I'm describing objective changes in the reality on the ground as all long term expats have observed them... and you don't seem to have any actual disagreement with that description so why the condescending "you should learn game" shit?

My apologies, no condescending attitude intended. I'm just referring to the futility of lamenting the past, I tend to be a practical person in my thinking. And under the same logic yes you're right bickering in the forum is pointless, that's why I try to avoid it although sometimes I get carried away and into it. And always regret my wasted time and energy later.

Post: #252

(10-24-2018 04:24 AM)Malo Wrote:  My apologies, no condescending attitude intended. I'm just referring to the futility of lamenting the past, I tend to be a practical person in my thinking. And under the same logic yes you're right bickering in the forum is pointless, that's why I try to avoid it although sometimes I get carried away into it. And always regret my wasted time and energy later.

Aaah yeah same here, it feels good to vent sometimes though haha. It's cathartic. But doesn't really help much of course. Anyway the offer to grab a beer some time stands regardless if you want hit me up via PM. I'm less grumpy in real life lol.

Post: #253

I'm sure you aren't grumpy in real life I've heard stories about you lol. I'm away from the center at the moment but once I'm hitting Makati/BGC I'll drop you a line

Post: #254

^For anyone having problems with girls, what is your financial situation like? Like, are you taking girls out to dinner, flashing a bit of cash, or are you asking them to come straight over to your place to bang?

Post: #255

Cash flashing can work for getting higher caliber girls if you do it right, walk the fine line of being visibly well off but not a white ATM.

Many people don't know how to play that game (myself included), so you can just meet girls at the mall, have an inexpensive bite together and take it from there.

Post: #256

(10-24-2018 12:08 AM)yankeetravels Wrote:  The drama I think is fueled by insecurity. I know one guy that told me the Filipina he's married to now had a lot of insecurity leading up to the engagement. These chicks are legit afraid of losing you and if you are firm and high value in their mind, some will do or say anything to keep you around (even if they have three other boyfriends).

Nevertheless, I love Filipinas. I wasn't around the country a decade ago. I'm a young blood that benefited from the power of information with forums like this, airbnb, and uber to really enhance my experience in the country. When I first left, I wanted to do anything to get myself back there permanently. Now, I'm not so sure I'm as high on it, but that's more because I make more money at home and there's still a lot of other countries to see. But, it's still an option I'm absolutely open to going back to.

The haters in here are being way too harsh on the country. I'd love to invite them to the northeast US and see if they'd still feel the same way they're bitching about here. Guys, if you don't like the country or the women, it's very simple....



And go to another country.....

Yes, this is absolutely right. It is insecurity that makes them act that way. It's not helped by the fact that I was honest and told her I am writing to other girls. Of course needless to say after blocking her on Facebook and unfollowing on Insta she still got in touch.

Overall I also love Filipinas. First of all they are physically superior, the elegant slender frame and supertight pussy you find so much in Phil is very hard to fine elsewhere, they have that silky touch. Their skin feels different, softer. And they are entertaining as hell, naturally horny and quick to learn. Don't get me wrong I can also do Indonesian, Thai or Korean, but Filipinas are great. Even the crazy can be fun at times, but it sometimes does go over the top.

As for the country, if you can't enjoy the Philippines you might as well be dead.

Post: #257

experience will vary on the girls economic situation as well, the higher upper class and the upper middle class ones are usually the most bitchy ones,the poor ones are still humble and friendly imo, but you need to financially support them as they are usually broke. so it feels a little bit like p4p.they are also in the 4-6 range so not that pretty in terms of looks

the most bitchy ones are the upper class dadys girl student ones in de la salle and other universities, i found some of them even more arrogant than western girls,they are faking their accent to sound american, even some of my girls did not like them at all,they have this snobby atittude, i totally avoid those type of girls. not worth it, educated girls are usually the ones to be infected by femenism first. the global leftist elite have done well to spread their femenism world wide

Post: #258

They all sound fucking American. That's all they know. The Americans promised independence then delayed for 30 years so they can exploit the country economically and the Filipinos love the Americans. They just don't know how badly the US fucked Philippines over.

Yah, the semi-pro aspect of the Phil is very regrettable. And they are so clever about it. Never ask you up front. Then months later they'll start how badly their parent's business is going, indirect pleas for help. Never direct. Then after a while they demand an 'allowance'. Has anyone had to deal with that? I get it all the time.

Of course the experience will also vary with the guy's economic situation, it will colour where he can stay in phil, what kind of accommodation etc.

Post: #259

if a girl insists on meeting up in greenbelt or shangri la mall im gonna cancell the whole thing all together.i learned that when they met up with 2 or 3 of her friends looking for a expensive meal for someone to provide them.lots of gold diggers

Post: #260

It could actually be a good sign if she insists to bring a friend or two. It may mean she's still scared and has no history of meeting foreigners, if she did she'd be more than comfortable meeting alone. But yes, very annoying, I don't like that either.

Post: #261

Filipina girls have always been cunty to guys who don't have a high enough status for them. Do you think back 10 years ago when she was tripping over herself trying to throw herself at the first white cock she saw she wasn't being a cunt to local guys who had low value? It has nothing to do with anything other than the fact that she can get or has gotten higher status guys than you if shes being a cunt. Go to any western place where the girls are claimed to be cunts and I guarantee you that she will not treat an extremely high status guy like that.

Post: #262

if you mean by high status.rich handsome and staying in shangri la hotel? a high status man will not travel to phills to bang 7s and 8s. he will travel to switzerland and tahiti/barbados to bang 9s and 10s
these girls are not realistic at all

Post: #263

(10-24-2018 11:26 AM)Shimmy Wrote:  Filipina girls have always been cunty to guys who don't have a high enough status for them. Do you think back 10 years ago when she was tripping over herself trying to throw herself at the first white cock she saw she wasn't being a cunt to local guys who had low value? It has nothing to do with anything other than the fact that she can get or has gotten higher status guys than you if shes being a cunt. Go to any western place where the girls are claimed to be cunts and I guarantee you that she will not treat an extremely high status guy like that.

This is very true, actually. A girls response will vary according to who she is talking to. Phil is no different in that regard to the West. Except of course that status is different in Phil, ie older guys are more acceptable, moderate wealth rates higher in Phil due to economic imbalance.

But all that may well be changing, you do see now more Phil girls putting a max age of 35 on their profile, not the majority by any means, but you do see it. Maybe they are starting to be aware how desirable they are. The constant attention of foreigners is not helpful. How many girls have you had that dated a Swede, a German, an American, an Australian, the cheap travel is making things very easy for Phil girls.

Post: #264

agreed jefferson low cost airlines killing it.
this is why south america is better.there is no low cost fares keeping the majority of thirsty begpackers away

Post: #265

(10-24-2018 12:08 AM)yankeetravels Wrote:  The haters in here are being way too harsh on the country. I'd love to invite them to the northeast US and see if they'd still feel the same way they're bitching about here. Guys, if you don't like the country or the women, it's very simple....



And go to another country.....

But then they'll just bitch about the next country. We should make a vaginitis thread for the guys that fall into that mental space.

"Living in a country after fleeing the West and somehow you still find things to bitch about 24/7?"

How To Use Vagisil



It kind of reminds me of some of those migrants to the U.S. or Europe who risk their lives to get there, and then when they finally get there, they fly the flag of their home country while constantly bitching about the U.S. or Europe. On the other hand, some of them will get to the U.S. or Europe and make an honest go of it, appreciating the positives of these economic engines while trying to avoid the negatives, like obesity and a diminished sense of community versus some other countries.

Also note that there's a big difference between, one, observing/analyzing the qualities of a place and its people that you find disagreeable or that have changed, for example, and two, being nothing but negative about a place and its people, 24/7. If you fall under the latter, you're basically just an ugly person on the inside and there's not much to be done. If you fall under the former, then that's just being observant person.

It just is what it is, some men just have what we could refer to as:

"The Unhappy Gene."

Post: #266

(10-24-2018 01:11 AM)Enhanced Eddie Wrote:  I think you may missed an important point here. 5+ years ago, whether you had game or not, you were better off being in the Philippines. Because if it's zero effort for quality, and other countries require work (situation 2013 and prior), then it's a no brainer to be here.

Whereas in 2018 if you have game I think you're better off elsewhere. If you need real game to get real quality either way, then you're better off in a country that's actually nice to live in and maybe even has a great variety of phenotypes... not to mention, girls with more to talk about on dates, and with more interesting personalities.

That's a fair critique.

Post: #267

(10-24-2018 02:34 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  We should make a vaginitis thread for the guys that fall into that mental space.

"Living in a country after fleeing the West and somehow you still find things to bitch about 24/7?"

Also note that there's a big difference between, one, observing/analyzing the qualities of a place and its people that you find disagreeable or that have changed, for example, and two, being nothing but negative about a place and its people, 24/7. If you fall under the latter, you're basically just an ugly person on the inside and there's not much to be done. If you fall under the former, then that's just being observant person.

It just is what it is, some men just have what we could refer to as:

"The Unhappy Gene."

This!

And I could even understand if you don't like a place, but the visceral intense hatred some people display towards the Phil, it's certainly pathological and says more about the person spouting that nonsense than about the Phil.

I also don't like hearing all this tired old defeatist 'oh it was so much better back in the day'...jesus Christ, every day there are new babies born in the Phil. They're all bitches? Really? All the same? You have to work now? So what, if the juice is good put in a little effort.

The Phil is a nice place to live in, depending where you are.

Post: #268

(10-24-2018 01:36 AM)Malo Wrote:  Hate to sound like Tony Robbins but the quest for getting good things for zero effort probably won't end is satisfaction. More like chasing your tail forever with constant frustration. Even if it worked for a while in the past.

It's almost like you're paying your dues for your non-effort years now, since due to these years you are now unable to get your act together. It always comes full circle.

And the guys in that bracket could have locked something down that was out of their league back then too. Instead they chose to behave as if their artificially high SMV would last forever.

It didn't last for the guys that started back then and it won't last long either for the new generation. If you're not going to take advantage of this and lock something down, that's your choice, but understand that these aberrations that put your SMV very, very far above what you're actually bringing to the table, which is a couple of pumps of sperm in a condom and delusions of being high and mighty in the case of many visitors to the Phils and other countries, will not last forever.

Post: #269

(10-24-2018 02:45 PM)Jefferson Wrote:  And I could even understand if you don't like a place, but the visceral intense hatred some people display towards the Phil, it's certainly pathological and says more about the person spouting that nonsense than about the Phil.

Agree 100%.

For the guys that get this massive SMV boost for no reason other than being a foreigner, it's like being given a gift that you did almost nothing to earn (you bought a plane ticket). What they do with that gift reveals more about them than it does about the foreign country.

Post: #270

I actually think this obvious unhappiness some of the guys on this thread had about the Philippines stems from their own low self esteem, they want to make themselves feel better by trying to put down people they perceive as even more worthless than them.

It may well have to do with the incongruence between what they would like to be and what they feel they are, and insulting an entire Asian nation makes them feel so much better.

It is ugly and pitiful really.

Post: #271

(10-24-2018 02:34 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  Also note that there's a big difference between, one, observing/analyzing the qualities of a place and its people that you find disagreeable or that have changed, for example, and two, being nothing but negative about a place and its people, 24/7. If you fall under the latter, you're basically just an ugly person on the inside and there's not much to be done. If you fall under the former, then that's just being observant person.

It just is what it is, some men just have what we could refer to as:

"The Unhappy Gene."

Yup, the reason they ended up there in the first place and couldn't get laid in the west.

Post: #272

Exactly.

It's fine to have things you don't like. Internet is slow? Fair point.

But to say all Filipinas are hideous and/or obese? Do a reality check and take a good look in the mirror. Something's not right there.

Post: #273

(10-24-2018 03:31 PM)Shimmy Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 02:34 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  Also note that there's a big difference between, one, observing/analyzing the qualities of a place and its people that you find disagreeable or that have changed, for example, and two, being nothing but negative about a place and its people, 24/7. If you fall under the latter, you're basically just an ugly person on the inside and there's not much to be done. If you fall under the former, then that's just being observant person.

It just is what it is, some men just have what we could refer to as:

"The Unhappy Gene."

Yup, the reason they ended up there in the first place and couldn't get laid in the west.

Some, yeah. Some are like me, though, I can get laid in the West, but the type of girl I want is almost nonexistent in the West. They're rare enough to make searching for them in the West have a negative ROI. Other guys fall in the same boat, so there's plenty of handsome, well adjusted guys traveling abroad for dating purposes...and this thing keeps growing and growing.

There's also a large amount of guys with issues, be it in game, regular socializing skills, looks, etc., that are bringing their issues with them all over the world.

It still boggles my mind that anyone can't get laid in the West. I understand the autistic guys, but for normal guys, it boggles the mind to not be able to get laid in the West. I understand where the autistic guys are coming from, girls are very harsh in regards to social abilities when it comes to dating. The thing is, in the West, a guy that's an otherwise a decent human being but is socially off is getting nowhere. Meanwhile, a guy that's not a good person, but is socially smooth, is getting laid regularly. But if you think you're not socially off, and you're also not getting laid in the West, well guess what...

You're socially off.

And Western girls can smell that from a mile away. They're merciless, too, you're getting nowhere unless your looks can compensate for it, and you better be damn good looking if that's the case.

On the other hand, foreign girls, because of the language barrier and other factors, will sometimes not catch on to these issues at first. If they spend enough time with those guys, though, they'll figure it out too, and then the guy's back to square one.

Post: #274

In the Philippines one sees plenty of young, good looking guys, with Filipina girlfriends. And yet still the Philippines is painted as some seedy place where mostly grey 80 year olds go to have 20 year old girlfriends. That does happen. But plenty of normal, well adjusted, well built guys go to the Phil to get a girlfriend. Simply because they prefer Filipina girls.

I actually prefer a Filipina, for physical reasons. I find them physically more attractive. I got girls in the West, and indeed Eastern Europe. But I prefer Filipinas. I like very slender, elegant, tight girls, with a silky touch, and a charming and fun personality. I found that in the Phil.

And yes it's not easy with Filipinas sometimes, but if you're going to have any kind of relationship with a woman and expect it to be easy all the time you'll be in for a surprise on occasion.

Post: #275

(10-24-2018 03:42 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 03:31 PM)Shimmy Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 02:34 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  Also note that there's a big difference between, one, observing/analyzing the qualities of a place and its people that you find disagreeable or that have changed, for example, and two, being nothing but negative about a place and its people, 24/7. If you fall under the latter, you're basically just an ugly person on the inside and there's not much to be done. If you fall under the former, then that's just being observant person.

It just is what it is, some men just have what we could refer to as:

"The Unhappy Gene."

Yup, the reason they ended up there in the first place and couldn't get laid in the west.

Some, yeah. Some are like me, though, I can get laid in the West, but the type of girl I want is almost nonexistent in the West. They're rare enough to make searching for them in the West have a negative ROI. Other guys fall in the same boat, so there's plenty of handsome, well adjusted guys traveling abroad for dating purposes...and this thing keeps growing and growing.

There's also a large amount of guys with issues, be it in game, regular socializing skills, looks, etc., that are bringing their issues with them all over the world.

It still boggles my mind that anyone can't get laid in the West. I understand the autistic guys, but for normal guys, it boggles the mind to not be able to get laid in the West. I understand where the autistic guys are coming from, girls are very harsh in regards to social abilities when it comes to dating. The thing is, in the West, a guy that's an otherwise a decent human being but is socially off is getting nowhere. Meanwhile, a guy that's not a good person, but is socially smooth, is getting laid regularly. But if you think you're not socially off, and you're also not getting laid in the West, well guess what...

You're socially off.

And Western girls can smell that from a mile away. They're merciless, too, you're getting nowhere unless your looks can compensate for it, and you better be damn good looking if that's the case.

On the other hand, foreign girls, because of the language barrier and other factors, will sometimes not catch on to these issues at first. If they spend enough time with those guys, though, they'll figure it out too, and then the guy's back to square one.

I'm going to address the bold quotes one at a time. Because some I strongly agree with and some I strongly disagree with.

1. So not true. Not sure if sarcasm but that's just feminist thinking. I see girls online that like to say this a lot. Don't bring that into a manosphere forum. Guys go to the east because they don't want to MARRY a western chick.

2. Absolutely agreed on people carrying their baggage everywhere. I've learned this the hard way and have some real regrets because I didn't know that going into my first trip abroad.

3. I think girls can smell this in general. But being an open and liberated culture with girls having higher value, western girls definitely have more flexibility in the social etiquette rules to call this out. Not to mention that the autism and aspergers thing is probably more relevant in the west. Also because western girls already have their comforts met, they can get bored and dig deeper into the social game. Most girls in Asian countries for example would probably lose face calling out a guy directly for this.

4. Agreed. I find that all girls (guys too, but especially girls because they are more socially savvy) will smell your flaws if they spend enough time with you, but I do notice it takes longer for foreign girls to notice a flaw of mine that an American girl would probably notice within 30 seconds. It doesn't have to be a major thing or even a social deficiency, I'm just talking flaws in general that we all have one way or another.