Post: #1

So, I am banging this married woman. I have been incredibly busy with work (now sitting in a hotel lobby on East Coast, and will soon be taking the Amtrak to Boston for another job related gig). So I haven't seen this babe for a few weeks, and I know she's getting anxious.

Earlier this week, I was working with a client in her area. I texted her the day before, "Hey, beautiful, I'll be finished with a client at 4 in ____________. Would love to just sit and talk."

So we meet at this little hole in the wall, we're in a booth, I tell her, "So great to just sit and talk." But she starts rubbing me and says after a while, "I love it that you just want to spend time with me."

And then after an hour or so of small talk, she whispers, "I'm on my period, but I just have to suck your cock."

So we go into her BMW and finish up our little "just sit and talk."

Moral -- sometimes if you say "let's just sit and talk" to a babe you are already banging, good things can just naturally happen.

Post: #2

How old is this woman?

Post: #3

(09-28-2011 12:09 PM)Samseau Wrote:  How old is this woman?

She's in her mid-30s. Then again, I am 20+ years older than her.

There are certain aspects of the female brain, however, that are constant across the age ranges.

Post: #4

(09-28-2011 01:53 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

(09-28-2011 12:09 PM)Samseau Wrote:  How old is this woman?

She's in her mid-30s. Then again, I am 20+ years older than her.

There are certain aspects of the female brain, however, that are constant across the age ranges.

Oh, absolutely.

But generally the older they are, the more desperate they are.

Mid-30's, however, isn't that bad at all considering how much older you are than her. Hell, it's impressive.


Based on this info, I will definitely try using this line:

"Would love to just sit and talk."

In my words, it will sound like "Let's just sit and talk."

Post: #5

(09-28-2011 10:28 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Oh, absolutely.

But generally the older they are, the more desperate they are.

Mid-30's, however, isn't that bad at all considering how much older you are than her. Hell, it's impressive.

Based on this info, I will definitely try using this line:

"Would love to just sit and talk."

In my words, it will sound like "Let's just sit and talk."

At may age, I am more or less limited to the 35-40 somethings. Occasionally I can land a young one but it is unusual. Two 20 somethings in the last two years. I think now it will be one a year at most.

I would love to be able to figure our what signals a young one sends when she has a daddy complex. Still haven't nailed that one.

But trust me, some of the 40 somethings can be really really nice, especially if they take care of themselves, work out with yoga and pilates. And remember, at 35 to 45 the women are at their sexual peak. They are past the giggly stage. They are willing to be wild in bed.

Post: #6

Quote:But trust me, some of the 40 somethings can be really really nice, especially if they take care of themselves, work out with yoga and pilates. And remember, at 35 to 45 the women are at their sexual peak. They are past the giggly stage. They are willing to be wild in bed.

I've seen plenty of sexually uninhibited girls in their 20's as well,

You don't need to justify why you don't get as many 20 yr old's. When I'm pushing 60, I'm sure it won't be easy for me either. Hopefully dancing will save my ass, but I don't know.

What I do know, from talking to older guys, is that a woman 25 yrs younger than me will turn me on hardcore. Even though I would never dream of dating a 35 yr old today, there will be a day when I find them quite attractive, and there will be a day when I most likely will date women in this age range because they will pass my boner test easily. But being in my mid-twenties myself, dating women over 30 just doesn't interest me very much.

Quote:I would love to be able to figure our what signals a young one sends when she has a daddy complex. Still haven't nailed that one.

Daddy complexes are usually with girls who had abusive or nonexistent fathers.

So the question is, "How to find young women from poor economic brackets?" Young girls working low level jobs is probably the fastest way to find these types of girls.

I once dated a fucked up chick with a fucked up family life, and she was a nanny. Her father was in prison.

Another girl whose place I got into (but did not bang... fucking stupid me) had daddy issues and worked as a paralegal. Her job wasn't low level, but it was in the context of her being raised by a multi-millionaire family. Her apartment was also a total mess. Her father was a wanted man and was on the run.

My friend's girlfriend had an abusive alcoholic for a father, and she went into modeling when she was young and pretty, but at 26 she now works as a secretary.

I general I avoid these girls because they are a headache, but you might be able to deal with them easier. I think I run into them every few months because I go out at night a lot, and girls with daddy complexes are usually sluts who go out a lot.

To find them during the day could be quite difficult, as they are usually working to pay off their credit card debts. Try coffee shops on the weekends? Beats me man.

Post: #7

(09-29-2011 05:23 AM)tenderman100 Wrote:  "Let's just sit and talk."

Your tongue is your most valuable tool in pick up. If tough to get laid if you are not at least a decent conversationalist.

(09-29-2011 05:23 AM)tenderman100 Wrote:  I would love to be able to figure our what signals a young one sends when she has a daddy complex. Still haven't nailed that one.

The ones with "daddy" issues are often seeking male approval-validation. They do this in a variety of ways. The most common way I think is slutty behavior. If they sleep with alot of men they think this means that men approve of them. Or, they sleep with alot of men because they believe that this gives them power over men.

Often times, these girls are rebellious. They might dress and act a little crazy. They often want male attention so they dress and flirt for extra attention.

Sometimes, I can tell just by the way the walk and carry themslves.

I always ask what their father does for a living. If she says "I don't have a father", I go into "Daddy Game".

(09-29-2011 09:48 AM)Samseau Wrote:  So the question is, "How to find young women from poor economic brackets?"

In poor neighborhoods, of course. Don't forget community colleges, state universities, flea markets, swap meets, working class bars and clubs, run down shopping centers.

Go to the hood if you can.

Lots of these types of girls online also.

Also, check out companies that employ lots of poor people, like airports, hotels, and strip malls.

I always go to the mall on the poor side of town because these girls are everywhere over there!

Post: #8

Have you seen these guys in London before?
How do you rate them?

Post: #9

(09-28-2011 09:42 AM)tenderman100 Wrote:  So, I am banging this married woman. I have been incredibly busy with work (now sitting in a hotel lobby on East Coast, and will soon be taking the Amtrak to Boston for another job related gig). So I haven't seen this babe for a few weeks, and I know she's getting anxious.

Earlier this week, I was working with a client in her area. I texted her the day before, "Hey, beautiful, I'll be finished with a client at 4 in ____________. Would love to just sit and talk."

So we meet at this little hole in the wall, we're in a booth, I tell her, "So great to just sit and talk." But she starts rubbing me and says after a while, "I love it that you just want to spend time with me."

And then after an hour or so of small talk, she whispers, "I'm on my period, but I just have to suck your cock."

So we go into her BMW and finish up our little "just sit and talk."

Moral -- sometimes if you say "let's just sit and talk" to a babe you are already banging, good things can just naturally happen.

If you have hand and frame over a girl, you can say almost anything and she'll want to choke on your wiener. Establishing psychological dominance and luring the girl into a submissive role can be just as exquisite as getting your dick wet.

Post: #10

(09-29-2011 09:48 AM)Samseau Wrote:  What I do know, from talking to older guys, is that a woman 25 yrs younger than me will turn me on hardcore. Even though I would never dream of dating a 35 yr old today, there will be a day when I find them quite attractive, and there will be a day when I most likely will date women in this age range because they will pass my boner test easily.

Don't be too sure.

When I was 16, 16-30 was my turn on. (Not that I could get anyone over 18 then, but I found lots of women in that range attractive and 30 didn't strike me as "too old". I'm also not including the rare exceptions like Victoria Principle -- haha, remember her? -- in this because that shit just doesn't exist in 'real' life.)

When I was 20, 18-30 was my turn on. (The illegality of under 18 makes it mentally difficult to find them a turn on.)

When I was 25, 18-30 was my turn on.

When I was 30, 18-30 was my turn on.

When I was 35, 18-25.

When I was 40, 18-25.

Now I'm 42 and it's still the same.

When I was younger, I thought that what I thought was prime would go up along with me. Didn't happen. In fact, even though 18-25 has been my primary preference for several years now, I am finding the average late-20's and 30's girls even less attractive than I did before. Every year that passes finds me getting more and more turned off with them.

Saggy tits, even when small. Fat, flabby asses and thighs. Stretch marks. Cellulite. Wrinkles. Graying hair. Rough hands.

This isn't to say that I wouldn't do a 35-yr-old - I just wouldn't be all that excited about it.

And I have this thing about 40+ women. I can't explain it right. Something to do with their mouths. The way their lips, teeth and gums look that disgust me.

I am honestly scared because I know that I'm not getting any younger and it isn't going to get any easier to pick up under 30's girls. And yet, the girls older than 30 simply don't turn me on. There are always some that look good FOR THEIR AGE. But it's always that, "for their age". Very, VERY few look very good regardless of their age and usually they're married anyway.

I don't know what I'll do when I'm 50 (not that far off!) and can't manage to pick up 25-yr-olds. I'll be stuck in the quagmire of 30's and 40's girls that I'm fucking, not because I'm hot for them, but because that's all I'll be able to pick up. And I'll be dying inside, seeing all those young nubile bodies ignore my aging ass. LOL

Post: #11

(11-12-2011 02:35 PM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:  Have you seen these guys in London before?
How do you rate them?

This was bloody beautiful. All cold approach newbies (like me) need to watch that video. Taking the step from online to IRL is difficult, because online is so easy...the hard stuff is done for you (you know if she's single and whether she is attracted to you).

Post: #12

(11-14-2011 12:54 PM)Smoker Wrote:  And I have this thing about 40+ women. I can't explain it right. Something to do with their mouths. The way their lips, teeth and gums look that disgust me.

I am honestly scared because I know that I'm not getting any younger and it isn't going to get any easier to pick up under 30's girls. And yet, the girls older than 30 simply don't turn me on. There are always some that look good FOR THEIR AGE. But it's always that, "for their age". Very, VERY few look very good regardless of their age and usually they're married anyway.

I don't know what I'll do when I'm 50 (not that far off!) and can't manage to pick up 25-yr-olds. I'll be stuck in the quagmire of 30's and 40's girls that I'm fucking, not because I'm hot for them, but because that's all I'll be able to pick up. And I'll be dying inside, seeing all those young nubile bodies ignore my aging ass. LOL

Welcome to my reality. I am pushing 60. Though I was banging a Harvard junior this summer -- very nubile -- this is exceedingly rare.

Right now I have two married women on rotation. One will turn 41; the other is 38. The 38 year old has beautiful skin, smells great, and has this porn star way of riding me. The 41 year old, alas, is in somewhat worse shape, but is doing yoga and her body is actually improving. You mention the teeth and mouth, but her smile is phenomenal. And her blow jobs are top drawer. When she comes -- which she does often -- she shivers. It is an incredible turn on.

I love 'em both -- using the word love lo0sely -- and the sex is no holds barred. They are smart, sophisticated, hot to trot. But you would not mistake them for Megan Fox.

And because I have a vasectomy, and because they are married and it is only me they are fooling around with, I ride 'em raw. The pussy feels great.

As I am getting on in years, it is more important for me to fuck and be fucked than it is to find just "the right" woman in terms of physical beauty. We all age; we all grow old. Athlone's 10 thread shows the now of these beauties -- this is very very temporary.

Think of it this way -- you standards WILL shift. They will have to.