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(08-12-2018 02:30 AM)frozen-ace Wrote:  The fighter jets that were scrambled to intercept the plane- they came from Portland? How long did it take for air traffic to realize something wasn’t right? And how long did it take for the fighter jets to show up? I wonder if the air traffic controllers have a phone free of important numbers to call right there on their desk.

I know the military keeps planes on standby for emergency situations, but i’m surprised that planes from Portland would be pulled in when you have Joint Base Lewis McChord right there.

Do you think they were prepared / authorized to shoot down the plane if it looked like it was going to hit a building or head for downtown Seattle?

Parts of the radio transmissions between the plane and the tower show that as soon as he taxied out to the runway for take-off the tower knew something was wrong. The the tower kept asking him for his flight sign and he wouldn't reply, so the tower 'noticed' something was wrong even before he took off, but there was nothing they could do to stop it.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he had just gone through a bad breakup. I guess we'll find out more details in the next few days. RIP.
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(08-12-2018 07:32 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  For us that don't live in the USA, I must ask what is the significance of the Seattle? I see that couple guys here said something akin "From Seattle? No wonder."

Seattle is the SJW and all around liberal capital of the USA. Everyone is gay and walks a three legged dog. If the shelter has only four legged dogs the neon hair people will cut one off to look cool.

Lundy West lives there. She's a big fat lady married to some black guy whose name is something like "Amahamawafflelee." Fat acceptance is mainstream up there. She really hit the trifecta meeting that guy even though he's born somewhere like s Scranton, pa.

All the kids in Seattle have autism and if the don't the parents just say they do.

Seattle is very diverse, or so they say, but the only minorities there are the Seattle Seahawks, who are a bad football team, and this guy that some kind of outdoor faggot shopping mall that throws fish.

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^Well that clears my confusion. Tnx Kona!
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(08-12-2018 07:32 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  For us that don't live in the USA, I must ask what is the significance of the Seattle? I see that couple guys here said something akin "From Seattle? No wonder."


Plus it rains all the time so everyone's depressed and just resorts to hanging out in coffee shops and reading Marx which makes them even more miserable.

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He nosed dived into a deserted area. He did what he did through no fear and was going through the motions because no way in hell would a pilot who is sound of mind do a fucking loop the loop in a propeller aircraft in such a casual manner at such low altitude.

Of all the ways to kill yourself a plane would be one of the more certain routes. When someone is determined to off themselves they will carry it out almost always.

The MSM covered it up as usual by reporting he crashed and cutting the chat footage between the ATC and Rich. A young white dude checking out and has stolen a plane? Best make shit up to cover over the bigger problems!
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On the plus side he offed himself not killing anyone else but him. And he went out having some crazy experiences. Sure - it disturbed the lives of a few people, so it could be better. I might recommend this to the next suicidal daredevil who wants to go out with a splash:





Or do a parachute course and never pull on your first lone jump.

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"Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age."
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I think only the second half of that quote applies to this situation. A true waste of life... But it's easy for a straight, intelligent white man in today's society to find such an end.

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It's unlikely he had 2,100 lbs of fuel... He had 2,100 gallons. A gallon of Jet-A fuel weighs roughly 6 lbs. He took off with 3000 gallons, which is roughly two hours worth of fuel.

Line service guys like him generally measure fuel in pounds while pilots, and the cockpit indications, use gallons.

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WHat a strange story.

There’s something about this that is deeply sad but listening to te guy talking on the audio there is something about his voice that just sounds so normal. Not like a guy who’s about to off himself.

I hope he’s at peace now and that we find out what exactly it was that was troubling him.

There are a lot of sad guys out there, everyone of us should be on the loo out for them and offer them the chance to talk or help.
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(08-13-2018 04:12 AM)Ski pro Wrote:  WHat a strange story...


Oh you think the media narrative is strange?
Then prepare for the qurious tale of the "Sky King"... :

https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/08/12/th...-pedogate/
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(08-13-2018 07:48 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 04:12 AM)Ski pro Wrote:  WHat a strange story...


Oh you think the media narrative is strange?
Then prepare for the qurious tale of the "Sky King"... :

https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/08/12/th...-pedogate/

ah, it’s never as straightforward as you think. That’s a proper rabbit hole I don’t want to go down.
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(08-13-2018 08:38 AM)Ski pro Wrote:  ah, it’s never as straightforward as you think. That’s a proper rabbit hole I don’t want to go down.


The "Sky King" gives new meaning to : may you live in interesting times...
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I have been playing aircraft simulation games since that moment. Sad end. It's curious tho that there is not much attention from the MSM.
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(08-13-2018 09:37 AM)Drax Wrote:  I have been playing aircraft simulation games since that moment. Sad end. It's curious tho that there is not much attention from the MSM.

You may be surprised to know it received a fair bit of attention in print & TV media in Australia.
Especially as it is really at this time, just an oddity as opposed to any serious terrorist / security event.
Plus an event that has nothing to do with Australia in any way.
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(08-11-2018 11:10 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  This guy represents the majority of white guys living in Seattle. My cousin worked for Horizon. She frequently got promoted over much more qualified men because they like to keep the guys doing grunt work. They also promote ethnic minorities who power trip like mutherfuckers. Most white guys bail on this company in the first year... the only ones you see stick around are gay.

He met his wife in Oregon. She had a successful career while his was failing. What are the chances she was fucking around or pushing him to make changes and this is the reason he offed himself in spectacular fashion.

I think you hit the nail on the head. Recruitment is agenda based. Right from the heart of the Establishment. People talk about "leftists" and "the right". But the ones that promote this "diversity" cancer are just "Establishment". Left and right are just different faces, different spin.

The workplace is even worse in England because we have the added dimension of the so called "class system" and croney capitalism.It means a talented working or even middle class male might struggle to get many jobs, whereas a women, male or immigrant from a connected family with far less talent would very likely get the job.

I believe faggotry is being promoted because its not just about their warped physical acts. The Establishment want compliant bitches in every sense of the word. Its my theory that eventually they want a form of "sexualised submissiveness" in the workplace. Fags love being ordered about by powertripping dykes etc Any healthy male would be repulsed by it. But less and less males are healthy these days.
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(08-12-2018 02:40 PM)Kona Wrote:  Seattle is the SJW and all around liberal capital of the USA. Everyone is gay and walks a three legged dog. If the shelter has only four legged dogs the neon hair people will cut one off to look cool.

Lundy West lives there. She's a big fat lady married to some black guy whose name is something like "Amahamawafflelee." Fat acceptance is mainstream up there. She really hit the trifecta meeting that guy even though he's born somewhere like s Scranton, pa.

All the kids in Seattle have autism and if the don't the parents just say they do.

Seattle is very diverse, or so they say, but the only minorities there are the Seattle Seahawks, who are a bad football team, and this guy that some kind of outdoor faggot shopping mall that throws fish.

All accurate.

Further, the weather is mild year-round, so the nation's entire population of homeless crackheads gradually washes into the Pacific Northwest like the tide, putting "progressives" in quite the philosophical pickle.

You see, everyone has had their Prius thoroughly trashed in their own locked garage at least three times when some wretched hobo takes a crowbar to their windshield to steal a cheap umbrella, old gym shoes, or 78 cents of Canadian pennies, then shits in their driver's seat out of spite because even they hate the paste-colored, shapeless mopes who choose to live there.

Yet it is socially unacceptable to question the official toleration of vagrancy. Here is a Wall Street Journal opinion piece about the "campsite" of the immigration protesters in Portland, the storm drain for liberals who can't afford Seattle:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/anarchy-bre...1533331454

Quote:Along the trolley tracks behind the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement field office, a biohazard cleanup crew works under police protection. It finds used needles and buckets of human waste simmering in nearly 100-degree heat. The smell of urine and feces fills the block. For more than five weeks, as many as 200 people had occupied the site to demand ICE’s immediate abolition.

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Alert missions aren't necessarily run out of big bases. There are advantages to being at a quieter airfield, and often the responsible units are national guard.

An alert F-15 can be off the ground in minutes and then go very fast to the target. The F-15 also has a very good radar and could have engaged from a significant distance. Portland to Seattle would be a reasonable distance (edit: for the total engagement, not for a missile shot).

The rules of engagement were probably to shoot it down if he made a move for Seattle or another population center.


(08-12-2018 02:30 AM)frozen-ace Wrote:  The fighter jets that were scrambled to intercept the plane- they came from Portland? How long did it take for air traffic to realize something wasn’t right? And how long did it take for the fighter jets to show up? I wonder if the air traffic controllers have a phone free of important numbers to call right there on their desk.

I know the military keeps planes on standby for emergency situations, but i’m surprised that planes from Portland would be pulled in when you have Joint Base Lewis McChord right there.

Do you think they were prepared / authorized to shoot down the plane if it looked like it was going to hit a building or head for downtown Seattle?
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Even the normally don’t jump too fast to conclusions crew at airliners.net think this one is a bit odd

http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic...&start=550
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What really happened:

   

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(08-13-2018 12:25 PM)MidJack Wrote:  Alert missions aren't necessarily run out of big bases. There are advantages to being at a quieter airfield, and often the responsible units are national guard.

An alert F-15 can be off the ground in minutes and then go very fast to the target. The F-15 also has a very good radar and could have engaged from a significant distance. Portland to Seattle would be a reasonable distance (edit: for the total engagement, not for a missile shot).

The rules of engagement were probably to shoot it down if he made a move for Seattle or another population center.


(08-12-2018 02:30 AM)frozen-ace Wrote:  The fighter jets that were scrambled to intercept the plane- they came from Portland? How long did it take for air traffic to realize something wasn’t right? And how long did it take for the fighter jets to show up? I wonder if the air traffic controllers have a phone free of important numbers to call right there on their desk.

I know the military keeps planes on standby for emergency situations, but i’m surprised that planes from Portland would be pulled in when you have Joint Base Lewis McChord right there.

Do you think they were prepared / authorized to shoot down the plane if it looked like it was going to hit a building or head for downtown Seattle?

In a number of states, especially on the coasts and near big cities, Air National Guard and AF Reserve units rotate having 2-4 aircraft on homeland defense alert duty. Air traffic control en-route and approach control centers likely have it on their checklist that if they encounter an unresponsive aircraft, an aircraft with unauthorized flight crew, or which has it's transponder on the wrong setting, to notify the military alert field to get launched. I think an alert unit has to commit to having their 2-ship in the air within 15 minutes or something like that.

By the way, it's obvious that the officials redacted large amounts of the audio between the pilot and ATC. Perhaps he complained about unfair social justice nonsense in his workplace, but more likely he talked about his wife stepping out on him or something like that and how his marriage was failing. If that turns out to be the case, then this is the second example, at least, in a few years time of someone crashing a plane in part because of woman trouble, the other being that German pilot who crashed his airliner into the mountains in Europe.
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So no one thinks it's odd that a baggage handler with no military training or flight experience just jumps in the cockpit and starts doing maneuvers that even highly trained pilots can't do?





Just watch a few youtube videos and in a couple hours you will be doing barrel rolls and escaping from F-16s???

Play enough Flight Simulator video games and you are fucking Ice Man from Top Gun....GTFOH!

Who actually buys this story at face value? Whatever the fuck is going on here, it's definitely not the bullshit story we are being fed.
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^^^
When he references "video games" in the audio, he may be referring to Microsoft Flight Simulator or similar software which tries to be as realistic as possible for various aircraft types.
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(08-13-2018 03:09 PM)C-Note Wrote:  ^^^
When he references "video games" in the audio, he may be referring to Microsoft Flight Simulator or similar software which tries to be as realistic as possible for various aircraft types.

My buddy was doing a college program which included certification as commercial pilot on multi-engine (twin props) - all his "homework" was on MS Flight Simulator.

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(08-13-2018 02:57 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  Just watch a few youtube videos and in a couple hours you will be doing barrel rolls and escaping from F-16s???

Play enough Flight Simulator video games and you are fucking Ice Man from Top Gun....GTFOH!

Speaking of Ice Man...

If you watch this video enough you may not get good at volleyball, but you will want start Playing With The Boys!





Most of the views there are probably from guys in Seattle.

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