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(07-24-2018 11:06 PM)RIslander Wrote:  Borat sucked. It had a handful of funny moments but I dislike Borat fans as much as anyone that liked Forrest Gump.

I like Borat... and a love me sum Forrest Gump. I guess I should kill myself. Ha.

Debeguiled... always interesting to hear from an American who likes Ali G. As I said in my post, it's so 'nunancedly'-British on several levels, I'm genuinely interested as to how perceptive Americans like yourself see the character, and who he's supposed to be satirising. Would black Americans feel offended, for example?

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Man ya'll are reading way into this and don't have a sense of humor, especially if you didn't know about him before Borat.

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(07-25-2018 02:43 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Man ya'll are reading way into this and don't have a sense of humor, especially if you didn't know about him before Borat.

Indeed. People on here (and elsewhere too... ahem, SJWs) view literally everything through the prism of politics. It's insufferable, and this isn't exactly a groundbreaking statement. It's become the most recent schism on the forum.

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FYI Jason Spencer just resigned.

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This is offensive to me and my people. 40 years in the desert and this is what we get.

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(07-25-2018 04:09 PM)Kona Wrote:  This is offensive to me and my people. 40 years in the desert and this is what we get.

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(07-25-2018 01:58 PM)Teedub Wrote:  
(07-24-2018 11:06 PM)RIslander Wrote:  Borat sucked. It had a handful of funny moments but I dislike Borat fans as much as anyone that liked Forrest Gump.

I like Borat... and a love me sum Forrest Gump. I guess I should kill myself. Ha.

Debeguiled... always interesting to hear from an American who likes Ali G. As I said in my post, it's so 'nunancedly'-British on several levels, I'm genuinely interested as to how perceptive Americans like yourself see the character, and who he's supposed to be satirising. Would black Americans feel offended, for example?

Lived in the UK three years when I first came across him, so I just saw him as making fun of chavs and that, English people imitating American culture. Even with that, his character was more of an excuse to be a complete dummy and wind people up (See, I might have been exposed to too much English culture to give an purely American read on him, since I'm not even supposed to know what a windup is or how it differs from taking the piss.)

Don't know if black guys from the U.S. find him offensive or not, but it was my impression that despite the same language, the UK and the US are two very very different cultures, and it wasn't intended for them, it was intended for his home grown audience.

Even living there, it takes a while to figure cultural stuff out, and some stuff you never get, but when you live there, you kind of have to at least try. Wink

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This is offensive to me and my people. 40 years in the desert and this is what we get.

Aloha!

You are officially named the RVF Jew Troll. The "Owning a Zebra" thread has just been bumped... I challenge you to find a way to link it to the tribe. Laugh

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(07-25-2018 06:08 PM)RIslander Wrote:  
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This is offensive to me and my people. 40 years in the desert and this is what we get.

Aloha!

You are officially named the RVF Jew Troll. The "Owning a Zebra" thread has just been bumped... I challenge you to find a way to link it to the tribe. Laugh

Well happy Zebrahunkah, because I did it: /thread-23238...pid1825077

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I don't find modern comedians funny. It has nothing to do with politics. It is more of an asthetic thing. Borat just doesn't make me laugh. But I will laugh at Rodney Dangerfield. It seems that all modern comedians have this anger thing going on. Like the angry feminist comedian who puts down men. Borat also has the same "humor" as Howard Stern, who I also don't find funny. And all the Yiddish inspired comedians find jokes about shit to be hysterical, which makes me sick. The classical comedians would make jokes about themselves, but today they make jokes at the expense of other people. Fuck the modernists.


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(07-25-2018 06:36 PM)Kona Wrote:  
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(07-25-2018 04:09 PM)Kona Wrote:  



This is offensive to me and my people. 40 years in the desert and this is what we get.

Aloha!

You are officially named the RVF Jew Troll. The "Owning a Zebra" thread has just been bumped... I challenge you to find a way to link it to the tribe. Laugh

Well happy Zebrahunkah, because I did it: /thread-23238...pid1825077

Aloha!

Haha I liked your post even before I clicked the link because I knew it would deliver.

I also updated your rep point.

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(07-25-2018 03:17 PM)kaotic Wrote:  FYI Jason Spencer just resigned.
He only had 5 months left to serve, but still it is fucked up. No one on either side has a fucking sense of humor anymore......

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(07-25-2018 09:58 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  
(07-25-2018 03:17 PM)kaotic Wrote:  FYI Jason Spencer just resigned.
He only had 5 months left to serve, but still it is fucked up. No one on either side has a fucking sense of humor anymore......




My theory:
The skit between this guy & Cohen was 100% scripted and fully prepared.
Why ?
I'm guessing he needed the money very badly.
Cause he's probably gonna be in A LOT of trouble soon....but not because of this skit.


You can watch it here...it's totally scripted.



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(07-26-2018 10:10 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  
(07-25-2018 09:58 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  
(07-25-2018 03:17 PM)kaotic Wrote:  FYI Jason Spencer just resigned.
He only had 5 months left to serve, but still it is fucked up. No one on either side has a fucking sense of humor anymore......




My theory:
The skit between this guy & Cohen was 100% scripted and fully prepared.
Why ?
I'm guessing he needed the money very badly.
Cause he's probably gonna be in A LOT of trouble soon.


You can watch it here...it's totally scripted.




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Here's something we can all agree on.

His wife is pretty fucking hot:

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The new episode had me in stitches. Dude trolls Dick Cheney and a conservative town in Arizona.
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What is the big deal? I thought this Erran Morad concept is funny. My favourite Ali g moment is with Naomi Wolf. They are both Jewish, he should have hit that.

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(07-25-2018 06:36 PM)Kona Wrote:  
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(07-25-2018 04:09 PM)Kona Wrote:  



This is offensive to me and my people. 40 years in the desert and this is what we get.

Aloha!

You are officially named the RVF Jew Troll. The "Owning a Zebra" thread has just been bumped... I challenge you to find a way to link it to the tribe. Laugh

Well happy Zebrahunkah, because I did it: /thread-23238...pid1825077

Aloha!

LOL yeah that was a funny bit from Borat. Just like Black dudes get a certain liberty to make fun of their own or Indian dudes can clown their own in a special way, a Jewish dude like Cohen received the same liberty. The Jewish masters of Hollywood would've blackballed him if he wasn't Jewish (after pulling off these self deprecating yet funny stunts).
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The thing is this - his jokes and Borat exaggerations are leaving Jews better off. He does not make fun of Jews. In Borat he stays at a small BnB led by a lovely angelic elderly Jewish couple. The only ones who come off worse are the gentiles. Even blacks are more or less neutral - except for this one time he goes to a crowd with his pants pulled down.

So his agenda is actually quite clear - make the White Christians, conservatives and some White cucks look bad - either showing them too gun-crazy, anti-semitic, homophobic etc. When he walks into a synagogue or the ADL gaslighting them, then we can talk. Even the Borat movie was a satire of backwards Kossak/Muslims/Slavs. The Bruno movie aside from promoting homosexuality makes fun of the Euro-cucks - the Austrian uber-gay Bruno. His non-Jackass movies like The Dictator made fun of Muslims and the Brothers Grimsby of the British working class.

And the guy is brilliant and highly intelligent - his comedy shown on Ali G was fantastic - all on the fly with little preparations. Back then he was more or less apolitical and just showing the madness of our world. I feel that even the stunts he pulls on feminists are not even serious.

So yeah - he will be funny, but his comedy will achieve the desired effect - more propaganda for the globo-homo Jewish elite. That includes also the Israeli colonel - sure, he is a parody of "toxic masculinity", but he is not the butt of the joke.
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I could never stand the guy or any of his personas, whether it was Ali G, Borat, or the more recent incarnations. In fact, I find it tough to get through any of the clips posted in this thread.

He is a skilled imitator, is quick on his feet, and has a sharp sense of timing, all virtues in a comedian. But he completely lacks both charm and character. The personas he creates are thin, they have no depth and do not grow on you. There is no joy of recognition in seeing any of them over time and absolutely no feeling of comic warmth. What he has is a shtick with a certain nasty edge and that is what people respond to.

The richness of the comedic genius of a Rodney Dangerfield, a Larry David, or the creators of the great animated shows like Family Guy and King of the Hill, is something different in kind from this type of skilled but ultimately thin and empty satire. There is more real humor -- and love -- in a single five second clip of Peter Griffin tumbling down a set of stairs than there is in the entirety of Sacha's sleazy and overdetermined clowning.

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(07-25-2018 06:36 PM)Kona Wrote:  
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This is offensive to me and my people. 40 years in the desert and this is what we get.

Aloha!

You are officially named the RVF Jew Troll. The "Owning a Zebra" thread has just been bumped... I challenge you to find a way to link it to the tribe. Laugh

Well happy Zebrahunkah, because I did it: /thread-23238...pid1825077

Aloha!


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(07-26-2018 02:06 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  The thing is this - his jokes and Borat exaggerations are leaving Jews better off. He does not make fun of Jews. In Borat he stays at a small BnB led by a lovely angelic elderly Jewish couple. The only ones who come off worse are the gentiles. Even blacks are more or less neutral - except for this one time he goes to a crowd with his pants pulled down.

So his agenda is actually quite clear - make the White Christians, conservatives and some White cucks look bad - either showing them too gun-crazy, anti-semitic, homophobic etc. When he walks into a synagogue or the ADL gaslighting them, then we can talk. Even the Borat movie was a satire of backwards Kossak/Muslims/Slavs. The Bruno movie aside from promoting homosexuality makes fun of the Euro-cucks - the Austrian uber-gay Bruno. His non-Jackass movies like The Dictator made fun of Muslims and the Brothers Grimsby of the British working class.

And the guy is brilliant and highly intelligent - his comedy shown on Ali G was fantastic - all on the fly with little preparations. Back then he was more or less apolitical and just showing the madness of our world. I feel that even the stunts he pulls on feminists are not even serious.

So yeah - he will be funny, but his comedy will achieve the desired effect - more propaganda for the globo-homo Jewish elite. That includes also the Israeli colonel - sure, he is a parody of "toxic masculinity", but he is not the butt of the joke.

Sasha made his wife convert to Orthodox Judaism before they could get married.
Usually the wife keeps her religion and the husband may convert if he wants.
But in Judaism, the mother has to be Jewish for the children to be Jewish.

I guess if a guy is rich and famous enough, he can get a woman to do anything. Even the Saudi princes who marry white women force them to convert to Islam.
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(07-26-2018 02:06 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  The thing is this - his jokes and Borat exaggerations are leaving Jews better off. He does not make fun of Jews. In Borat he stays at a small BnB led by a lovely angelic elderly Jewish couple...his comedy will achieve the desired effect - more propaganda for the globo-homo Jewish elite.

Very true. Borat is just continuing the Hollywood tradition: (1) mocking any criticism of the faith; (2) presenting a flowery portrait of Jewish life. It's really that simple. All the elaborate manifestations can be placed neatly into these two boxes.

It reminds me of a scene in the movie Wedding Crashers that I saw last week. Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn stumble upon a Jewish event and their enjoyment of the party is a ridiculous exaggeration. It's almost painful to watch when you realize how contrived it is.




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Isla fisher is good looking for an average broad but she really paled in comparison to Gal Gadot when they were in a movie together (Mr and Mrs Jones or something).
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^Isla is average looking?! Her elbows must be too pointy.

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