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RE: Van Plows into 8 People In Toronto
(04-24-2018 07:43 AM)heavy Wrote: It's amazing how little I've heard about this terror incident.
I heard about the stupid Starbucks thing for a week.
But if terror is committed without guns, (((America))) doesn't care.
It's not going to be talked about much because
A) Canada is perfect in the eyes of the libtard press
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B) The story inconveniently interrupted the one about the naked white nut who murdered 4 black people at a Waffle House with an AR15. That as supposed to last a week at least.
Meanwhile, there's other awkward to explain stories like the one about the big black dude in the MAGA hat pushing latin americans onto subway tracks in NYC.
One minute you have a black guy in a MAGA hat accusing a migrant of taking jobs from Americans, then the next there's another, actual MAGA supporting black man - on the way back from his manicure - getting wrongly accused and confronted by the NYPD.
Two MAGA hat wearing black guys, one a jerk, the other a metrosexual, and a juicy chance to blame NYPD for profiling and they pass it up.
When the stereotypes aren't wired right, they just drop it and wait for the next story.
Ditto for this Armenian incel. Too far outside of the template.
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RE: Van Plows into 8 People In Toronto
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RE: Van Plows into 8 People In Toronto
More coverage.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/04/24/...mpage.html
Quote:The Toronto van attack suspect was sexually frustrated and called for a "rebellion" by like-minded men just before he's accused of plowing a rental van into pedestrians, killing 10 people -- including at least one young woman.
Alek Minassian, 25, posted on his personal Facebook page that the “rebellion has already begun” for incels — someone who was involuntarily celibate — and hailed Elliot Rodger, a 22-year-old who killed six people in a 2014 vehicle and shooting rampage near the University of California, Santa Barbara.
“Private (Recruit) Minassian Infantry 00010, wishing to speak to Sgt 4chan please. C23249161. The Incel Rebellion has already begun! We will overthrow all the Chads and Stacys! All hail the Supreme Gentleman Elliot Rodger!” Minassian wrote in the post.
We’ve just obtained this Facebook post from the accused Alek Minassian, suspected in the #yongeandfinch mass casualty. Posted early this afternoon. FYI Incel=involuntarily celibate. Elliot Rodger killed 6 ppl at UCSB in 2014 before killing himself @globalnewsto pic.twitter.com/W84xt3D85I
— Catherine McDonald (@cmcdonaldglobal) April 23, 2018
Rodger had referred to himself as an "incel" before carrying out the mass killing because he was sexually frustrated. He later committed suicide.
Facebook on Tuesday confirmed the message, posted early Monday just before the deadly attack, was made by Minassian.
Alek_Minassian
Alek Minassian had called for an "incel rebellion" on Facebook moments before plowing his van into pedestrians Monday.
“This is a terrible tragedy and our hearts go out to the people who have been affected,” a Facebook spokesperson confirmed to Global News. “There is absolutely no place on our platform for people who commit such horrendous acts. We have found and immediately deleted the suspect’s Facebook account.”
In the post, which has since been removed, Minassian referenced overthrowing the “Chads and Stacys.” “Chads” are the men who are not rejected by women and sexually active while “Stacys” refer to the women who reject men. The attacker seem to use a code that was a unique identifier to a post on a 4chan subchannel for anime, the Globe and Mail reported. No post referring to the code was found.
Alek Minassian
Alek Minassian appeared in court on Tuesday and was charged with first-degree murder. (Pam Davies)
Authorities are still determining the motive of the attack. People who knew Minassian described him as someone who “wasn’t overly social” and would often be alone.
"I remember seeing him probably just walking down the halls, usually by himself, or in the cafeteria by himself," said Ari Blaff, who went to school with Minassian. "My memory is not perfect, but certainly, it would not be, I don't think, a misstatement to say that he wasn't overly social.”
The Toronto man accused of mowing down pedestrians was allegedly inspired by the incel "rebellion."
Minassian, from the Toronto subarb of Richmond Hill, reportedly graduated from Thornlea in 2011, before attending Seneca College from 2011 to April 2018, Reuters reported, citing an Internet archived version of his Facebook page.
Minassian appeared in court Tuesday donning a white jumpsuit. He appeared to have no emotion in the brief court appearance as he was charged with 10 counts of first-degree murder and 13 counts of attempted murder.
I just listened to a Catholic News Network piece on the attack. It was almost funny listening to a bunch of Catholic academics try to break down exactly what an "incel" was. And then they pondered why said "incels" would be frustrated enough to do anything, let alone anything violent.
Having dealt with a number of these types of men, myself, I am not at all surprised when things like this happen. In fact, I, like many on this forum, am surprised it is not happening more often. There was a brief discussion in the forum post on too many men in India and China of possible violence. Maybe not "over there". But in Canada? In the US? Maybe even in Europe? I can see that happening quite easily.
Related - If you're an incel, just learn game or go MGTOW. You'll either get laid and get totally RP'd, which might make you dislike women more but it should calm you down, or you can vent your frustrations in to some MGTOW political crap. Start a Youtube channel man. I never though I'd say this, but psychos like this make the neckbeards over at 4chan look bad.
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RE: Van Plows into 8 People In Toronto
Roosh avoids the most blatant pitfalls. He could now only be banned if a celebrity woman says the Roosh made her cry with a mean tweet.
I disagree on this Shoe0nHead - her boyfriend is Alpha enough for her, though I can't stand his idiotic "skepticism". But he knows enough about Game and Red Pill to be fine with her. And she is cute and somewhat Red Pill. I don't care too much what she says frankly - it's a mix between the ideas of her boy, some Red PIll anti SJW awareness and cutsey poses.
"Giving up the puss, so no one gets hurt" is funny, it's true, but of course those outliers in the sexual market of being supposedly intelligent, supposedly high-value (Eliott Rodgers being born wealthy and connected) while not getting any is extremely puzzling to those socially awkward men. Sure - some pussy would have helped, but pussy cannot be reasoned with. Also those guys wanted willing pussy that wanted them - not purchased one or forced/raped.
No Tinder slut would ever going to touch that guy - even obese Tinderella hippos have likely rejected him - and they probably did. When the sexual market is destroyed then telling the women to fuck those men is not going to work. Even in the sane past there were a ton of men who could not find women the normal way. If they found a job, then someone set them up on a date or they were semi-arranged with another awkward woman out there by their families. Nowadays the awkward slim woman in the West can get dates easily enough via Tinder and co, while the awkward man is no longer helped by family and friends since his female counterpart gets banged out by a less discriminating less socially awkward man (even sometimes by a Chad). So his female alias is banging her 20s away with hotter men while he has nothing.
This is not going to change anytime soon.
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RE: Van Plows into 8 People In Toronto
(04-24-2018 09:08 PM)Tiger Man Wrote: More coverage.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/04/24/...mpage.html
Quote:The Toronto van attack suspect was sexually frustrated and called for a "rebellion" by like-minded men just before he's accused of plowing a rental van into pedestrians, killing 10 people -- including at least one young woman.
Alek Minassian, 25, posted on his personal Facebook page that the “rebellion has already begun” for incels — someone who was involuntarily celibate — and hailed Elliot Rodger, a 22-year-old who killed six people in a 2014 vehicle and shooting rampage near the University of California, Santa Barbara.
“Private (Recruit) Minassian Infantry 00010, wishing to speak to Sgt 4chan please. C23249161. The Incel Rebellion has already begun! We will overthrow all the Chads and Stacys! All hail the Supreme Gentleman Elliot Rodger!” Minassian wrote in the post.
We’ve just obtained this Facebook post from the accused Alek Minassian, suspected in the #yongeandfinch mass casualty. Posted early this afternoon. FYI Incel=involuntarily celibate. Elliot Rodger killed 6 ppl at UCSB in 2014 before killing himself @globalnewsto pic.twitter.com/W84xt3D85I
— Catherine McDonald (@cmcdonaldglobal) April 23, 2018
Rodger had referred to himself as an "incel" before carrying out the mass killing because he was sexually frustrated. He later committed suicide.
Facebook on Tuesday confirmed the message, posted early Monday just before the deadly attack, was made by Minassian.
Alek_Minassian
Alek Minassian had called for an "incel rebellion" on Facebook moments before plowing his van into pedestrians Monday.
“This is a terrible tragedy and our hearts go out to the people who have been affected,” a Facebook spokesperson confirmed to Global News. “There is absolutely no place on our platform for people who commit such horrendous acts. We have found and immediately deleted the suspect’s Facebook account.”
In the post, which has since been removed, Minassian referenced overthrowing the “Chads and Stacys.” “Chads” are the men who are not rejected by women and sexually active while “Stacys” refer to the women who reject men. The attacker seem to use a code that was a unique identifier to a post on a 4chan subchannel for anime, the Globe and Mail reported. No post referring to the code was found.
Alek Minassian
Alek Minassian appeared in court on Tuesday and was charged with first-degree murder. (Pam Davies)
Authorities are still determining the motive of the attack. People who knew Minassian described him as someone who “wasn’t overly social” and would often be alone.
"I remember seeing him probably just walking down the halls, usually by himself, or in the cafeteria by himself," said Ari Blaff, who went to school with Minassian. "My memory is not perfect, but certainly, it would not be, I don't think, a misstatement to say that he wasn't overly social.”
The Toronto man accused of mowing down pedestrians was allegedly inspired by the incel "rebellion."
Minassian, from the Toronto subarb of Richmond Hill, reportedly graduated from Thornlea in 2011, before attending Seneca College from 2011 to April 2018, Reuters reported, citing an Internet archived version of his Facebook page.
Minassian appeared in court Tuesday donning a white jumpsuit. He appeared to have no emotion in the brief court appearance as he was charged with 10 counts of first-degree murder and 13 counts of attempted murder.
I just listened to a Catholic News Network piece on the attack. It was almost funny listening to a bunch of Catholic academics try to break down exactly what an "incel" was. And then they pondered why said "incels" would be frustrated enough to do anything, let alone anything violent.
Having dealt with a number of these types of men, myself, I am not at all surprised when things like this happen. In fact, I, like many on this forum, am surprised it is not happening more often. There was a brief discussion in the forum post on too many men in India and China of possible violence. Maybe not "over there". But in Canada? In the US? Maybe even in Europe? I can see that happening quite easily.
Related - If you're an incel, just learn game or go MGTOW. You'll either get laid and get totally RP'd, which might make you dislike women more but it should calm you down, or you can vent your frustrations in to some MGTOW political crap. Start a Youtube channel man. I never though I'd say this, but psychos like this make the neckbeards over at 4chan look bad.
A MGTOW terrorist? Really? I call HOAX / training exercise. Remember they must rotate the groups so that all citizens are suspicious of all others.
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RE: Van Plows into 8 People In Toronto
I honestly never heard of "incel" until tonight. From what I remember the term is a little more recent than Eliot Rodger.
There is something called an "incel rebellion". A bunch of dudes who are "forced" to be celibate are going to open revolt against the masses?
A lot of wtfisthisguydoing in this thread which is very understandable. I figured instead I would look for more information on this "new gender group"
http://dailyhive.com/toronto/incel-rebel...van-attack
Quote:What is Incel?
The public was introduced to Incel after Elliot Rodger’s deadly shooting in California. Rodger’s attack left six people dead and a dozen more injured in 2014. In a series of Youtube videos, one recorded just moments before the attack, Rodger blamed his actions on women who refused to notice him.
Rodger was immediately lionized by an internet subset Incel, short for involuntarily celibate. The group is made-up completely of men who have bonded together through their inability to connect physically or emotionally with the opposite sex.
The group owes its origins to the Reddit group r/Incel. The once 40,000 strong “support-group,” typically engaged in blaming the women who refused to sleep with them. Reddit shut the subchannel down last year after the forum site had received numerous complaints about the group and their postings.
Since leaving Reddit the group has been broken into several smaller standalone sites. The most prominent appears to be incel.me. The group has clear rules against trolling and harassment, but also makes it clear in its rules those who defend women will be banned.
What?
Quote:According to the site incel.me, there are various degrees that one can identify with inside the community. A person who is not in a relationship nor has had sex in a significant amount of time, despite numerous attempts, is an Incel, a person who has never had sex, a Truecel.
Women are outright banned from participating in the group in any way, as are homosexual men, and “Fakecels,” men who pretend to be celibate “but has recently had sex or been in a relationship.”
It is an online community, largely anonymous, without a central authority or leaders. Joining their chat forum requires an individual to answer numerous questions by both moderators and any onlookers. Failure to do so quickly or convincingly results in a ban.
An "incel" a "truecel" (which is a virgin) and a "fakecel" (which is someone who likes to troll incels while fucking real women). I feel like this is related to the 68 genders Facebook pushes.
Quote:The movement is similar to other online communities in how decentralized it is. This also makes pinning down their exact ideology difficult. While there are a variety of different philosophies entrenched within online haunts and chatrooms the group lives in, the members all agree that the system was rigged against them from the start.
In their view being born attractive or unattractive most determines how an individual’s life will progress. Posts on their site all in the past 24-hours include titles like “Daily Reminder: If you were good looking, getting laid would be as natural as breathing,” “Not getting girls isn’t nearly as bad as being a futureless neet,” and “Telling us to respect women is like telling WW1 ShellShock Victims to respect the bombs that are dropping on them.”
Attractive men and women are labeled as “Chads” and “Stacys” respectively. It is a group that has bonded through adversity, whether real or perceived.
So things like "Self improvement", "lift", and "game" are traits some men are born with. A "Chad" or a "Stacy" is like "cisgender" to the transsexual group.
Quote:The group has now seemingly produced two notable and public terrorist attacks in North America, but it is important to point out many members of numerous incel forums have been quick to denounce Minassian’s attack. In spite of this, the group remains a nexus for the discussion and sharing of ideas that are extremely degrading to women, while promoting both self-loathing and entitlement for its members.
The vast majority of Incel members will likely never commit violence and are just venting their frustrations, however, each Incel site does feature posts and discussions that paint women as simple caricatures, deserving of Incel’s anger and the source of their estrangement from normal society. Other posts outright promote violence and in some cases sexual assault.
Incel’s ideas resonate strongly in the echo chamber of the internet. It could just be the push an individual needs to fall over the edge.
I wonder if this kind of action will increase.
The forum indicated in the article considers themselves "Black Pill" (ehm....no). And yes I was shocked to see a whole subforum on that page of users begging not to be banned. There seemed to be 3-4 a day begging to be "let back in".
I looked into the forum that exists here. Here are the various genders that exist:
Quote:Incel (Allowed): Person who is not in a relationship nor has had sex in a significant amount of time, despite numerous attempts.
Truecel (Allowed): Type of incel who hasn't ever had sex or been in a relationship, despite numerous attempts.
Mentalcel (Allowed): Type of incel whose reason for failure in relationships/sex is related to mental illness or major insecurities.
Volcel (Allowed): Person who, for various reasons, is abstinent and does not engage in sex.
Blackpilled (Conditional): Person who is none of the above but has a blackpilled mentality.
Female (Not Allowed): Banned on sight, no exceptions.
Fakecel (Not Allowed): Person who claims to be incel but has recently had sex or been in a relationship.
Good god. There is so much here that would cause a man to just lose their fucking mind.
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RE: Van Plows into 8 People In Toronto
(04-24-2018 09:13 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote: Nowadays the awkward slim woman in the West can get dates easily enough via Tinder and co, while the awkward man is no longer helped by family and friends since his female counterpart gets banged out by a less discriminating less socially awkward man (even sometimes by a Chad). So his female alias is banging her 20s away with hotter men while he has nothing.
Absolutely. Reminds me of those rom-coms or dramas from, say, the early 90s, well before all the techno-shit, where the slim and cute female lead "can't find anyone", or is "unlucky in love". Even back in those years such a plot was a stretch, but just barely believable. Watching that kind of shit now, it's such a riot. Pure fiction. Today you'd think, "Ha-ha! Today, all she'd have to do is just go online & . . . "
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RE: Van Plows into 8 People In Toronto
Guardian article on this. One notable line that is being repeated ad nauseum in news outlets:
Quote:Such theories are often buttressed with half-understood theories about evolution, psychology and genetics. And at their heart is a belief that denying men sex is unjust.
I never came across anything like this statement in the manosphere. These idiots are mixing their own interpretations with the news.
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RE: Van Plows into 8 People In Toronto
These incels should have met me when I was in my late teens:
White.
Just over 6 feet tall.
Six pack.
Played sports.
Very pleasant and well-liked. Many friends in several different niche groups and ages.
Absolutely zero puss. Now, I wasn't very stylish and I wore glasses, so maybe that was a strike against me.
But as soon as I adjusted my mindset and learned a little about women, it was like living on a different planet.
I had plenty of times where a shorter and uglier and non-white guy swooped a woman I was aiming for. But according to these losers, height and facial symmetry are everything.
This incel shit is beyond pathetic.
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RE: Van Plows into 8 People In Toronto
I'm going to follow up on my previous thoughts about the effect of increasing inceldom. Not that many on the forum need to hear this rehashed, but it's true.
A lot of the guys I have met that were held down by involuntary virginity didn't want to learn game and didn't want to game chicks. They were still stuck swallowing the blue pill. Incel rage is not Red Pill rage. Incel rage is guys who are operating in a system that they still think works. They do "everything right" (as has been stated multiple times) and they still lose the game. So, they see the system as broken. This can really only result in three outcomes. One, they reassess the system and act in accordance with new information. This now often comes in the form of the Red Pill. Two, they exit the system. This usually happens with herbivore men types or those who just check out of life. Suicide also falls under this category, but so does the small subset of men who leave for "greener pastures". Three, they rebel against the system. This can be as innocent as a guy writing a legal treatise about why child custody laws should be changed. Or, it can be as deadly as an attack like this.
So, I'll second what many have said. I think these kind of attacks will increase. I don't think the cause is an increase in men choosing option three. I just think there will be more incels to make the choice.
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RE: Van Plows into 8 People In Toronto
Yet another young man and his family totally destroyed by big food and big pharma. There is NO other cause of this tragedy. Just as with Nikolas Cruz and pretty much every single case of school shootings etc. since Columbine. Including Elliot Rodger of course.
Asperger`s, like all other forms of neurological illness (so called psychological i.e. the soul) is caused by an unnatural diet for humans, and it`s downstream effect on hormones and neurotransmitters. Glutamate in particular which causes excitotoxicity is propagated by sugars, refined starches, caffeine, alcohol and artificial sweeteners. Also autoimmunity is a major factor since it supresses (in the context of a certain genetic phenotype) the GAD-67 enzyme which reduces the excitatory neurotransmitter glutamate to the calming GABA. The leading cause of all autoimmune disease is grains, low fat dairy and legumes. All of which are foods homonids did not evolve with, hence we have limited capacity to handle them. I could go on about this for a long time, but that is the essence of the etiology of mental disorders. Medication adds to the problem by the much studied effect of depersonalization, inhibition relief etc. This is well proven by now. So you have an excessively excitable and possibly psychotic person, (which is also caused by the dietary elements mentioned) which is now stripped of his natural inhibitions as well. This is a recipe for disaster, and should be understood by now. Unfortunately financial interests get in the way of the truth.
Even though we don`t know yet if this guy was medicated, (I find it very likely) the dietary causes is enough to cause the kind of volatility that could end in a tragedy like this. Had it been addressed properly with the dietary interventions necessary, this would never have happened. This goes for a huge part of the violence (including suicides) we see in Western societies today. Really, psychology as a "science" should be terminated totally. Instead it should reorganized as a part of the field of neurology, and the brain disorders in question handled by addressing the underlying, mostly dietary, causes mentioned above. It`s about time this happens.
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