Post: #776

(10-29-2018 08:35 PM)browndude Wrote:  Ya'll need to step out more. When i lived in nyc i'd see multiple a day it's super common

What parts of NYC? I lived and partied in Manhattan, and I'll bet good money it's not "super common" at all. If you happen to be in NYC when I visit there (I travel often) I'd be happy to meet up and stroll and see if what you say is true.

Post: #777

In Toronto, Brown Male+Non-Brown Female couples are on the order of like 1 in 200... or 1 in 500... something near non-existent like that basically. The most common interracial pairing is Black Male+White Female. It used to be White Male+Asian Female, but I don't see them as much anymore.

Post: #778

Agree with kaotic.

The only person seeing a "brown guy" is the brown guy community.

When I met with kaotic, there was no question he was brown from my perspective but he's just a high energy, cool mofo that exudes confidence and frame.

I think I forgot he was even brown because we connected so well beyond the race bull shit.

Post: #779

Some dudes won't break out of their own stigma, insecurities, and racial chains.

They want to sit there and complain, tear down others, and lash out like incels do.

This thread is 32 pages long and the majority of it is FILLED with negativity - compare that to Black man game thread. (albeit larger).

I'd love to see this thread go in that direction.

Post: #780

(10-29-2018 10:31 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 08:35 PM)browndude Wrote:  Ya'll need to step out more. When i lived in nyc i'd see multiple a day it's super common

What parts of NYC? I lived and partied in Manhattan, and I'll bet good money it's not "super common" at all. If you happen to be in NYC when I visit there (I travel often) I'd be happy to meet up and stroll and see if what you say is true.

I wouldn't say it's 'super' common, but it's definitely common. All the professional brown dudes I know here in NYC have no trouble picking up non-brown women and I would say most of the ones that I know are either dating or married to non-brown women. There are definitely brown groups that like to keep to themselves but those are usually ones that came to the U.S. later in their life.

Post: #781

(10-31-2018 05:46 PM)PakMan Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 10:31 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 08:35 PM)browndude Wrote:  Ya'll need to step out more. When i lived in nyc i'd see multiple a day it's super common

What parts of NYC? I lived and partied in Manhattan, and I'll bet good money it's not "super common" at all. If you happen to be in NYC when I visit there (I travel often) I'd be happy to meet up and stroll and see if what you say is true.

I wouldn't say it's 'super' common, but it's definitely common. All the professional brown dudes I know here in NYC have no trouble picking up non-brown women and I would say most of the ones that I know are either dating or married to non-brown women. There are definitely brown groups that like to keep to themselves but those are usually ones that came to the U.S. later in their life.

Good to hear Indian dudes are doin well. I can't deny what you're saying but FWIW I was there for 5+ years until very recently and save for maybe one or two Indian guys, the vast majority of Indian bros were struggling. Maybe I just didn't run across those that were killing it, but I certainly didn't see it happening often in Manhattan either when out and about. Areas I hung out included pretty much all the usual spots: East and West Villages, LES, SoHo, TriBeCa, MeatPacking, Greenwich Village, occasionally midtown. Once in a blue moon the UES/UWS.

I know that there's a large Indian population in NJ, so it's quite possible I didn't run into them because I rarely ventured into NJ.

Anyway - more power to them if they're slaying!

Post: #782

In this vein I'll say: the more stereotypically masculine I've gotten, the better I've done. The more I've travelled alone, the more I've built up my net worth, the more self-contained and antifragile I've become, the more direct I speak, and yes, the more I'm capable of being a huge asshole: the better I've done.

That's the thing I learned from living in Miami: hot women like fucking men. Actual men. Big, smelly, loud, boorish, bawdy, stupid men wearing big gold chains.

Where a lot of brown guys fuck up is that they are leading lives they hate for the approval of others. They don't have genuine confidence or Frame because they never earned it. If you don't have a strong Frame in a vacuum, when you are alone, how will you expect a woman to buy into it?

This reliance on Tinder, on trying to locate areas where girls think you are pretty, on SMV arbitratage, is the height of weaseling pussy shit. Once you're a fucking man, you're a man everywhere. You'll never have to worry again about women not drawing into your Frame.

Post: #783

I was saying seeing brown and white couples is super common not that I see brown dudes picking up white chicks at clubs easily. Though I’ve seen that as well just not nearly as frequently as regular old couples on dates.

Oh and anywhere I was having dinner at xyst the other day and the table next to me was a couple. Point is I see it often.

Post: #784

As a brown guy from New Zealand but of Indian origin, I would like to share some of my thoughts and experiences:

- Your race can have some impact but overall success with women and more importantly life, far more depends on you the individual. To me honestly race is mostly negligible.

- I have had very good success with women of all backgrounds e.g. Kiwi, Australian, Persian, Indian, European, Korean, Palestinian, French-Moroccan, etc.

- For the record, I'm in my my late twenties, 5'7, have an above average build, and an okay face. In essence, I'm ordinary looking though I dress pretty well.

- I've done well because of my confidence, easy-going attitude and decent style. I don't have an inferiority complex about my race like some guys here with their continuous obsession about being Indian. If anything I'm very proud of my origins and culture. I can speak my mother-tongue though not to a native level.

- I like girls of all races as long as they are hot and sweet. I don't waste my time with girls that have toxic mindsets. Some guys here have an obsession with trying to find ways to be successful with girls that hate their own race. Why the fuck would you do that? Some of them also go into ridiculous details about the perception of Indian people in various areas. Who gives a shit man. You are you, and you be you!

- This thread should have Indian guys sharing experiences about their successes to guide those still learning and also failures to get feedback from those more experienced.

- This should not be a place to vent and cry about being Indian like fucking pussies. Don't be weak, it is not your race hampering your success. I repeat, it is not your race. It is you. If a normal guy like me has no problems succeeding with girls of all backgrounds, there is no reason you also cannot find success.

- That being said maybe you are in an area facing an uphill battle because of your skin colour (I haven't experienced this though). Once again, a healthier mentality is to accept the reality and find ways to overcome the challenge. Complaining about how unfair life and being Indian is, isn't the solution. There is no doubt that if you're a free-spirited, confident and well-presented guy, even in places where 'fairer' skin is preferred, you can absolutely find success. Most importantly don't victimise yourself and your race. This is a dangerous and toxic mindset.

- That being said, there is nothing wrong with discussing strategies about leveraging our unique backgrounds/culture. These discussions should be productive though and not for complaining that "white chicks aren't interested in me".

- Keep this in mind too, every individual will have a different experience even if they are of the same race and/or look similar. Personality, character, style, build, confidence, etc. can lead to a huge variance in success. Just remember that the biggest difference-maker is you. How confident you are and how much you believe in yourself - these are priceless attributes.

- Lastly, be proud of your origin. A lot of people here and in the outside world mock our kind of people. You know why they do that? Because we give them a reason to. Our insecurity of our identity, lack of confidence and desperation is why. If you start walking around with a bit of swag, head held up high and self-belief that nothing will ever bring you down, you'll be surprised how much people's perceptions can change. Be proud of who you are and your identity. And for fuck's sake don't try and pass off as an "Italian" especially when you probably eat with your hands haha (looking at you Rossi)

Post: #785

(10-31-2018 10:03 PM)Salesian Wrote:  That's the thing I learned from living in Miami: hot women like fucking men. Actual men. Big, smelly, loud, boorish, bawdy, stupid men wearing big gold chains.

Miami is very pretentious and snobby, but its a very diverse and international city. You will find all types of women.

I have a British Indian (Punjabi?) friend from London, here in Miami, who is cleaning up with Latinas, Italians/Mediterranean and European tourist women. His British accent and London/UK style, along with being a brown guy is very unique and sticks out in the crowd. He has a posh accent and went to one of the top universities in London. Maybe he is reading this forum?

My friend has been in Miami for 6-7 months and he told me has slept with 50-60 women. I believe him. I banged a few of his sloppy seconds and we tag teamed 5 different girls lol...Miami is crazy

My advice to Indian dudes: Put on a fake British accent and pretend to be from London, when gaming women. British accent + being from London will open doors, conversations and most importantly legs hahahhaha

Post: #786

(10-31-2018 10:03 PM)Salesian Wrote:  In this vein I'll say: the more stereotypically masculine I've gotten, the better I've done. The more I've travelled alone, the more I've built up my net worth, the more self-contained and antifragile I've become, the more direct I speak, and yes, the more I'm capable of being a huge asshole: the better I've done.

That's the thing I learned from living in Miami: hot women like fucking men. Actual men. Big, smelly, loud, boorish, bawdy, stupid men wearing big gold chains.

Where a lot of brown guys fuck up is that they are leading lives they hate for the approval of others. They don't have genuine confidence or Frame because they never earned it. If you don't have a strong Frame in a vacuum, when you are alone, how will you expect a woman to buy into it?

This reliance on Tinder, on trying to locate areas where girls think you are pretty, on SMV arbitratage, is the height of weaseling pussy shit. Once you're a fucking man, you're a man everywhere. You'll never have to worry again about women not drawing into your Frame.

Great post. You must be kaotic's long lost south Floridian brother that he never met with that unshakable machismo & bravado heheh.

Post: #787

(11-01-2018 12:03 AM)Coconut Juice Wrote:  

(10-31-2018 10:03 PM)Salesian Wrote:  That's the thing I learned from living in Miami: hot women like fucking men. Actual men. Big, smelly, loud, boorish, bawdy, stupid men wearing big gold chains.

Miami is very pretentious and snobby, but its a very diverse and international city. You will find all types of women.

I have a British Indian (Punjabi?) friend from London, here in Miami, who is cleaning up with Latinas, Italians/Mediterranean and European tourist women. His British accent and London/UK style, along with being a brown guy is very unique and sticks out in the crowd. He has a posh accent and went to one of the top universities in London. Maybe he is reading this forum?

My friend has been in Miami for 6-7 months and he told me has slept with 50-60 women. I believe him. I banged a few of his sloppy seconds and we tag teamed 5 different girls lol...Miami is crazy

My advice to Indian dudes: Put on a fake British accent and pretend to be from London, when gaming women. British accent + being from London will open doors, conversations and most importantly legs hahahhaha

Dude no lol

Post: #788

^^Its game strategy -- certain accents and being from xyz city/country drops panties quicker; obviously it depends on the location and girl

My friends and I have used the fake British accent and can confirm that it helps in getting one-night stands. Another repertoire to add to your game

Its basically acting...its not hard to mimic accents...brush up on your acting skills and take a few acting courses? American/Canadian/Aussie actors in Hollywood do it all the time in movies

Women in the Anglo-saxon world (especially American girls lol) cannot tell the difference between a real British accent and a fake one...only thing you have to worry about is cockblockers (mostly men) ruining your act

I haven't used the fake British accent in Europe, South America or Asia...so I have no idea how it would work there...the point of my comment to Indian guys reading this thread is that the British accent + London style + brown guy will get you laid in Miami...its a novelty here for the local and international women

Post: #789

By London style, I mean Topshop and those type of stores. I'm not British and only been to London 1 time, so its based off my British Indian friend and his fashion sense, mannerisms and wit

Use both a posh accent and a working class peasant Brit accent and see which works on better on women

Hahahaha I wonder if this will increase sex tourism to Miami. Good luck to any Indian men who want to try this game strategy

Post: #790

See now this thread is going in the right direction, I'm digging it.

(10-31-2018 10:03 PM)Salesian Wrote:  In this vein I'll say: the more stereotypically masculine I've gotten, the better I've done. The more I've travelled alone, the more I've built up my net worth, the more self-contained and antifragile I've become, the more direct I speak, and yes, the more I'm capable of being a huge asshole: the better I've done.

This speaks volumes as in, fuck you I don't care, as in, fuck you what can you do for me, instead of what I can do for you when it comes to women.

I've always been the shit talking (teasing) funny asshole who'll take advantage of any comment a girl will say and turn it sexual or against them in a funny way.

I've been asshole only when need be, when a chick tries to one up me or tries checking me and I have to nuke her.

Most of the first paragraph is what EVERY single man should be doing.

Becoming an actual man that it oozes out of your fucking pores - naturally.

Quote:Where a lot of brown guys fuck up is that they are leading lives they hate for the approval of others. They don't have genuine confidence or Frame because they never earned it. If you don't have a strong Frame in a vacuum, when you are alone, how will you expect a woman to buy into it?

DING DING DING!

One the biggest things is living their life for the approval of their parents and family.

I was a black sheep right at the beginning of my teens - I carved out my own path and did what I want - regardless of what family thought.

Eventually they realized I wasn't ever going to what they wanted so they gave trying to mold me.

Lost my virginity at 15 1/2, dated girls, drank, smoked weed, went to shows. (Son I am dissapoint!)

Walked away from Islam at the same time, went hardcore leftist atheist anarcho punk. (My son disrespects our culture!)

I didn't go directly to University, I paid my way through a JC first. (How dare he not go directly to a Uni!)

I didn't do my GMATS nor go into grad school. (My son is a failure!)

I make decent coin now but could make alot better. (My son isn't a doctor!)

I've ran through alot of women, dated some cool ones, and some stupid ones. (My son isn't getting married, I am ashamed)

You know what I've always said about all that and their judgemental view?

FUCK THEM, they don't matter, they need to live their own lives.

I'm pretty anti fragile as well, I don't answer to my family, I live my life for myself and have some fucking pretty fun while doing it.

I honestly don't talk to my cousins much or my aunts and uncles (it helps they're on the other side of the US).

We don't have much in common, some highlights:

-One of my cousins is now married to a feminist lawyer cunt, I didn't bother going to the wedding
-One families 3 daughters are all born again Muslims, the son is doing his own thing.
-Majority of my family or leftist SJW's save for one Uncle that I'm close with (we're both MAGA Trump Supporters)

I'm always doing my own thing, peoples views of you don't mean a fucking thing, especially if you're happy doing what you're doing and not harming anyone.

Hands down the biggest stigma come from your fellow brown people - and embracing western culture, women, style, values, etc.

Now don't get me wrong some of the values from our culture are important and valuable.

But man your family can be a drag and shame for being "white washed" aka assimilated to your host country.

Thankfully I was born in the US - I wouldn't want to be born anywhere else and hold it's values highly.

Post: #791

(11-01-2018 07:05 AM)Coconut Juice Wrote:  ^^Its game strategy -- certain accents and being from xyz city/country drops panties quicker; obviously it depends on the location and girl

My friends and I have used the fake British accent and can confirm that it helps in getting one-night stands. Another repertoire to add to your game

Its basically acting...its not hard to mimic accents...brush up on your acting skills and take a few acting courses? American/Canadian/Aussie actors in Hollywood do it all the time in movies

Women in the Anglo-saxon world (especially American girls lol) cannot tell the difference between a real British accent and a fake one...only thing you have to worry about is cockblockers (mostly men) ruining your act

I haven't used the fake British accent in Europe, South America or Asia...so I have no idea how it would work there...the point of my comment to Indian guys reading this thread is that the British accent + London style + brown guy will get you laid in Miami...its a novelty here for the local and international women

Not just having a British accent, but even if you have a particular American accent, it can work in your favor. I know girls who are turned on by the 'southern' accent as long as the guy sounds educated as opposed to some ignorant redneck. Knowing slang and being aware of pop culture also helps quite a bit. Since I grew up in Queens, I have a bit of that Brooklyn/Queens accent and growing up around Latin people I'm aware of their culture and their lingo as well. Just an accent isn't enough rather it's more important that you can reveal that you have some 'street' knowledge as it shows that you're someone with a strong social intelligence.

Post: #792

not sure I agree with the above around demonizing Indian emphasis on family values / education etc. key is balance. I have always grinded hard in the traditional way went to an Ivy League school etc. it’s paying dividends now I’m super financially free at a very young age but at the same time I also focused on developing socially.

Point is you can maximize academic achievement, believe in traditional family values and still slay... not mutually exclusive at all. To put more specificity: I visit my parents a lot, involve them in life decisions, travel with them, speak to them in my native language. All these are good things imo

Post: #793

(11-01-2018 03:11 PM)browndude Wrote:  not sure I agree with the above around demonizing Indian emphasis on family values / education etc. key is balance. I have always grinded hard in the traditional way went to an Ivy League school etc. it’s paying dividends now I’m super financially free at a very young age but at the same time I also focused on developing socially.

Point is you can maximize academic achievement, believe in traditional family values and still slay... not mutually exclusive at all. To put more specificity: I visit my parents a lot, involve them in life decisions, travel with them, speak to them in my native language. All these are good things imo

I'm not demonizing, I'm explaining how if you aren't happy with the direction you're going, then CHANGE it yourself, and don't' be afraid of the friction from your family or friends. I'm also explaining my upbringing and how I've always been fiercely independent and carved my own path.

That's the Catch 22 it's very rare to find a guy whose grinded hard at a young age - and has killer game at the same time. (the forum is the exception to the rule)

Most guys discover game, kill it with women, and then focus on being well off financially OR vice versa.

I think alot of South Asian traditions can be compatible with the western traditions and I see nothing wrong with involving parents.

What I'm saying is when they're running your life with no freedom of choice.

Post: #794

(11-01-2018 11:24 AM)kaotic Wrote:  FUCK THEM, they don't matter, they need to live their own lives.
I'm pretty anti fragile as well, I don't answer to my family, I live my life for myself and have some fucking pretty fun while doing it.

Mate, unless you've had some very abusive or neglectful parents, that's a very sad way to live life and treat your parents.

I can relate to you more than the vast majority of this forum so I know exactly what you mean. Keep in mind though, if you're ever in a great deal of trouble or are hospitalised or something, the first ones to rush to your aid would be your parents. If anything happens to you and say you die, the only ones who will cry for the rest of their lives would be your parents. We should be grateful to them for at least giving us food to eat, a place to sleep, clothes to wear and sending us to school as a kid.

I know Indian parents can have very high expectations and sometimes pressure their children which can be very challenging to deal with, but they certainly do love them. Every human being is flawed, but we have to remember to be grateful for the good things they have done and not just hold them accountable for the bad.

Post: #795

I can see how a newer or inexperienced Indian guy will have those limiting beliefs given all the doom and gloom that is out there about race and dating, it can be tough to silence the background noise. When you hear something over and over again, it can take a hold on your mind and alter your thoughts in a big way. Similar to how watching too much of the news will have you thinking that the world sucks and is a miserable place.

To some degree I struggle with this sort of thing in regards to being a bachelor after the age of 30 when most guys are usually married and the things I hear about how tough it can be to make friends or have a social life when you get older.

Its not just an Indian guy thing either, minorities in general have to deal with that background noise. When most guys of your race are crying about racism, talking about how online dating is rigged against minorities and then, my personal favorite, saying that the minorities doing well are only doing well because they are handsome, rich or have game it fucks you up mentally. It can be so tough to avoid when most guys of your background are crying all around about how tough it is. Even having the mindset that you are inherently lesser because of things you cannot change puts you at a point where you either act a victim or think like someone who has to overcompensate for their genetics, neither of which in my opinion are healthy mindsets.

What will benefit an Indian guy or any minority struggling with inner game issues is that you should train your mind to where you are seeing yourself as an individual and not your race.

You don't have to own up to your "roots" because of your skin color, you can if you want to but that is because you genuinely want to, if you don't then that is okay.

You don't have to be proud of your origin if you don't relate to it. If your skin is brown, then its fucking brown, so what.

You don't have to be around people or make friends that reduce you to a stereotype unless absolutely necessary (workplace).

You don't have to relate to some guy of your race crying about how tough the dating game is.

I think that when you really see yourself as a person first, an individual and not as an extension of your race you can make a lot of progress towards that shift. It isn't an easy journey, a lot of it involves being around the right kinds of people who will help you grow.

Cannot blame Cobra for having more white friends than brown friends, it helps when you are around people who are not making you answer for your ethnic background.

(10-28-2018 10:01 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  Beer, is this you? Did you do this????

No, The Simpsons was actually funny.

Post: #796

(11-01-2018 04:30 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  What will benefit an Indian guy or any minority struggling with inner game issues is that you should train your mind to where you are seeing yourself as an individual and not your race.

Totally agree. Frankly, I think if you grow up in a diverse part of the world and mingle with people from all different backgrounds your entire life, you naturally become conditioned to not view your race as a factor in most aspects of life. I'm Pakistani, but I don't 'feel' Pakistani as I go out and about. When I get rejected, it never occurs to me that perhaps the girl doesn't like me because of my race, I just assume that either she just has her bitch shield up, my approach wasn't strong enough or maybe she just simply doesn't find me attractive.

The more one internalizes their insecurities, the more of a self-fulfilling prophecy it becomes. Generally speaking, even if white guys do in fact have an advantage, there are plenty of women who are open to hooking up with and/or dating brown dudes. If one rejects you, don't linger, just move on to the next one. Just my $0.02.

Post: #797

(11-01-2018 04:24 PM)Suave Wrote:  

(11-01-2018 11:24 AM)kaotic Wrote:  FUCK THEM, they don't matter, they need to live their own lives.
I'm pretty anti fragile as well, I don't answer to my family, I live my life for myself and have some fucking pretty fun while doing it.

Mate, unless you've had some very abusive or neglectful parents, that's a very sad way to live life and treat your parents.

When I said that, I meant their views on what you do dont matter, I don't mean literally tell them to fuck off.

I also wasn't raised by parents so I came from a unique situation. That's why my views are very different from your standard brown dude in the states.

Post: #798

(11-01-2018 04:30 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  You don't have to relate to some guy of your race crying about how tough the dating game is.

Yeah, instead you should help them and uplift our brothers

Post: #799

As an Indian - American, I have had the most difficulty getting white sorority girls. I am currently in NYC and still have problems getting white american women. Had better experiences and successes with non-white girls (asian and black), but can't get that elusive white girl. White European women are approachable but not so much the anglo ones.

For Indian men in NYC, where do you approach white women in Manhattan and Brooklyn?

My background:

-27 years old
-5'10"
-Bachelors in Engineering & MBA
-6/10 (average looks, but I have a good job)

Post: #800

(11-04-2018 09:45 PM)I Love White Women Wrote:  As an Indian - American, I have had the most difficulty getting white sorority girls. I am currently in NYC and still have problems getting white american women. Had better experiences and successes with non-white girls (asian and black), but can't get that elusive white girl. White European women are approachable but not so much the anglo ones.

For Indian men in NYC, where do you approach white women in Manhattan and Brooklyn?

My background:

-27 years old
-5'10"
-Bachelors in Engineering & MBA
-6/10 (average looks, but I have a good job)

Why are you putting white women on a pedestal. Besides you say you are a 6/10 then you cannot expect a 9 or a 10 unless you improve yourself physically and emotionally.