Post: #276

I'm liking the direction where this thread is going.

Sometimes you gotta get into the nitty gritty of things to figure out what works best for you.


Just to clarify some points about my background:

I was born and raised in Southern California, Jordy is right I was surrounded by other races most my life.

I don't have any South Asian best friends or friends for that matter, I don't interact with much of my east coast family. (I've always been a black sheep doing my own thing)

I also don't practice religion and grew up a little punk rock anarcho liberal shit head, now I'm the complete opposite praising god emperor Trump and being a shitlord. (still going to punk shows).

Most my friends are white and mexican (the big demographics here) along with an Egyptian, and a few mixed kids.

I definitely have that southern california surfer style talk going, and yeah I'm definitely white washed, 100% American First/Parents Heritage second.

I dress the causal surfer/skater socal way (i grew up in the action sports industry). Basically I dress like the older skater/surfer DILF's out here.

I do dress in business casual for work, but dress to the 9's for company functions or going to clubs or formal events. I don't fuck around and ALWAYS am on point. (The forum boys pushed me to this)

I also am not super skinny, I'm floating around 160-170lbs and I'm cycling gear/test along with working out and having a decent diet on point. (Thanks to LINUX and the forum)

Girls usually assume I'm hispanic or arab - they usually guess Indian/Pakistani last.

Having a big ass beard (I see you Cr33pin), the way I dress, the way I talk, throws people off that's for sure.


On girls:

Ever since I lost my virginity at 15, I've always done well with whites and mexicans (once again the demographics out here and who I was raised with).

I've always had a tough time with asian girls, but the last two years, I've snagged a few darker asian girls and a couple light ones.

Black girls love Kaotic, and I love some of em back, I've had a few fine ones in my day.

As far as relationships go, it's practically all been white girls, except for a significant latina lover whom I truly loved but ended things with.

I can see myself with a latina if I ever get into a serious relationship or have kids. (Shit if I sneeze on a latina I'll knock her up)

My entire rotation at the moment is white girls, except for one indian cutie.

Post: #277

Loosing the v card at 15....late bloomer.

Post: #278

(05-28-2018 10:37 AM)doc holliday Wrote:  

(05-27-2018 04:11 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 12:22 AM)doc holliday Wrote:  I don't quite get the glorification of thug, ghetto ass behavior in these last couple of posts here. Quite frankly, I don't want to hang around or be some wanna be rachetty ghetto motherfucker doing stupid thug shit just so I can eat some pussy. I think those Indian gangster wanna be's are pathetic. See this is the fucking problem with Indians, they're either so insecure about their race that it prevents them from developing proper social skills or they're so insecure that they glorify the stupid things that hood minorities do.

These guys are not play acting. They grew up shitty areas around gangs. I know a lot of UK Indian guys that have been to prison and/or have serious drugs issues.

Whether they're fake or real is irrelevant to me. Point is that I take zero pride in glorifying criminals, pretend or real. It gives me no pride whatsoever to know that Indians, both Muslim and Hindu are contributing to the down fall of the UK into the utter shithole it has become. I have next to nothing in common with those people and I'm glad the Indians in the US are 100% different than these fuckheads. I'll take some socially awkward but otherwise intelligent and good people with pride in themselves over a bunch of degenerate people who are contributing greatly to the destruction of a once great nation.

The fortunate ones survive their past and evolve into high quality businessmen (or some learn a profession that will provide them with success.). I mean let's be real, past a certain age what kinds of guys are relying on being a "thug" to get by. When you're young & amidst a certain environment I guess I can understand it a bit more. Anyone's ambition no matter their race or socioeconomic background should be to elevate into a higher consciousness & thrive in some kind of purpose (ideally something that benefits or helps fill a demand or need in society).

Post: #279

(06-01-2018 12:21 AM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  Loosing the v card at 15....late bloomer.

I don't give a fuck what you think you race troll faggot.

Post: #280

(05-31-2018 04:26 PM)SLSlayer Wrote:  beer, that’s a good niche for browns guys with an edge. Out of curiosity how successful are in converting dating app matches to dates?

I've had a few dates and some lays off of bumble, cannot speak about success because I don't know what the results are supposed to look like on average. My go to trick is to tell them after a couple quick exchanges that we should meet up sometime, exchange numbers and then go for the date.

Post: #281

(06-01-2018 11:43 AM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 04:26 PM)SLSlayer Wrote:  beer, that’s a good niche for browns guys with an edge. Out of curiosity how successful are in converting dating app matches to dates?

I've had a few dates and some lays off of bumble, cannot speak about success because I don't know what the results are supposed to look like on average. My go to trick is to tell them after a couple quick exchanges that we should meet up sometime, exchange numbers and then go for the date.

That's exactly how it should be, get the number ASAP, and get them out ASAP.

Always strike while the iron is hot.

Post: #282

(06-01-2018 12:21 AM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  Loosing the v card at 15....late bloomer.

Is it better to fuck when your dick first gets hard from puberty at 12 or 13 and get a girl pregnant perhaps?

Post: #283

(06-01-2018 11:55 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

(06-01-2018 11:43 AM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 04:26 PM)SLSlayer Wrote:  beer, that’s a good niche for browns guys with an edge. Out of curiosity how successful are in converting dating app matches to dates?

I've had a few dates and some lays off of bumble, cannot speak about success because I don't know what the results are supposed to look like on average. My go to trick is to tell them after a couple quick exchanges that we should meet up sometime, exchange numbers and then go for the date.

That's exactly how it should be, get the number ASAP, and get them out ASAP.

Always strike while the iron is hot.

Absolutely, women have too many options on Bumble to keep entertaining chatting with you.

Post: #284

(06-01-2018 12:01 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

(06-01-2018 11:55 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

(06-01-2018 11:43 AM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 04:26 PM)SLSlayer Wrote:  beer, that’s a good niche for browns guys with an edge. Out of curiosity how successful are in converting dating app matches to dates?

I've had a few dates and some lays off of bumble, cannot speak about success because I don't know what the results are supposed to look like on average. My go to trick is to tell them after a couple quick exchanges that we should meet up sometime, exchange numbers and then go for the date.

That's exactly how it should be, get the number ASAP, and get them out ASAP.

Always strike while the iron is hot.

Absolutely, women have too many options on Bumble to keep entertaining chatting with you.

Yeah exactly. Something funny happens the second that a man realizes he has high value. You might become more selective yourself (just like the women can be) in terms of who you're going to spend your precious time trying to number close & take out on a date. Time is money & it's just not worth wasting it on a chick you're likely not going to be interested in.

Post: #285

(06-01-2018 12:05 PM)jordypip23 Wrote:  Yeah exactly. Something funny happens the second that a man realizes he has high value. You might become more selective yourself (just like the women can be) in terms of who you're going to spend your precious time trying to number close & take out on a date. Time is money & it's just not worth wasting it on a chick you're likely not going to be interested in.

I can't tell you how many times I got a girls number then realized she ain't worth it, or cut the date super shot after chugging my one drink.

Time is by far the most valuable resource I have.

Between the gym, work, riding, and my friends - girls are secondary nowadays.

Like Patrice O Neal said never let a woman rape your time.

Post: #286

Going off of Kaotic's post, might as well keep generalizing here but I think that for most Indian guys in the US, here is how the list of women from easiest to toughest based on ethnic background would typically go.

Easiest:

Black women (the darker the easier)

Darker skinned ethnic women of any kind (Asian, Indian, latina, etc.).

Doable:

White girls that are social misfits

Latinas as long as they aren't fully white

East Asian women are not as white-washed

Toughest:

Middle Eastern and even South Asian women with a light skin tone

White women who are popular or weary of their social status

White-washed ethnic women who are trying to be cool and fit in to pop culture

This is a generalization though and I think exceptions will exist every step of the way, especially if the guy is well put together.

I think good looks, great game, alpha male mindset, status and a cool lifestyle can go a very long way so a guy can tag hot girls of each type. Even with each group there will be exceptions, in my recent post I mentioned how I have noticed white girls who try to pull off that Kylie Jenner look (black hair and tan) seem to have a soft spot for a well put together ethnic guy. These girls aren't exactly crazy for Indian guys in particular but they love that exotic look that I think a well put together Indian guy can pull off.

A lot of exceptions throughout and I can say from experience that there are hot girls from each group that will make an exception towards a well put together guy.

I've matched with sexy Middle Eastern women on dating apps, received IOIs from a couple of hot ethnic girls that were whitewashed and I've known Indian guys who have tagged hot girls from the toughest category.

No matter what you are into, don't be discouraged, just keep on pursuing your type. The reason I made this post was because I wanted to help out Indian guys who are new to the game or aren't in a place where they can be picky.

While I do think a lot will depend on the guy, this was based off of just looks and situations where all a girl will have to go by is the guy's looks.

Post: #287

^ beer - that lines up perfectly with my own experiences and observations as well.

The one demographic though you didn't mention is European (some specific varieties) and EE women - these tend to be a bit more open minded towards us in general. I had my fun with them in NYC and know a number of other minority guys that were successfully able to tap into that demographic.

Post: #288

Nice, this thread is back in the game!

I liked Beer's quick breakdown, here's mine based on my experiences in the USA (East Coast):

Easiest:

*All black women - both light and dark. I've noticed that black women love dark/brown guys more than their white counterparts

*All Indian women - both light and dark, whitewashed or not. I am light brown myself and I get a ton of IOIs from even the lightest Indian women. Is that common among all Indians? Seems not after reading this thread..

*Any kind of Latinas as long as they aren't completely whitewashed - Latinas give me a shit ton of IOIs - think the moment they reach the Western world they lose the white god fever haha

*Western European women

Doable:

*American girls that are social misfits - artsy, yoga-minded, traveled a ton, etc.

*American girls that have recently (in the past decade) come back from a trip from India. They are nostalgic and feel cultured and shit

*Whitewashed latinas

*East Asian women that are not as white-washed

*Middle Eastern women

*Eastern Euros

Toughest:

*White women who are popular or weary of their social status

*White-washed Asian (chinese, Korean, etc. - not Indian) ethnic women who are trying to be cool and fit in to pop culture

*Extremely liberal women, extremely rich women, hipsters

Post: #289

I like Middle Eastern women, I really do. But the ones I've come across so far have been hella prudish, so lately I haven't bothered with them much.

From my travels in LatAm - yes there is a bit of a WG factor there, but it's not as pronounced as in SEA. I haven't been to Argentina/Brazil yet, but in the DR/Mexico/Colombia, I found that as long as you're well put together and socially calibrated enough, they'll give you a chance, no matter your ethnicity. And often that's all you really need to seal the deal

Post: #290

(06-01-2018 02:14 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  I like Middle Eastern women, I really do. But the ones I've come across so far have been hella prudish, so lately I haven't bothered with them much.

From my travels in LatAm - yes there is a bit of a WG factor there, but it's not as pronounced as in SEA. I haven't been to Argentina/Brazil yet, but in the DR/Mexico/Colombia, I found that as long as you're well put together and socially calibrated enough, they'll give you a chance, no matter your ethnicity. And often that's all you really need to seal the deal

I found that Middle Eastern women fuck with only other Middle Eastern guys and sometimes white guys. If you can pull off Middle Eastern (in my case I can), then it's actually not that hard to get dates. But It will take a few dates though and lots of bitch shields to get through, and since I'm only in the business of banging right now, I don't bother with them.

I killed parts of LatAm (Colombia, Mexico) but didn't do too well in the "lighter" parts of LatAM (Brazil), mainly because I blend in like a local with Argentinians and Brazilians. Then again, my game wasn't on point in those places so I can't be too sure about that. If my game/style was on point back then, I feel like I could have done some damage in those places

Post: #291

(06-01-2018 02:33 PM)Crash_Bandicoot Wrote:  I killed parts of LatAm (Colombia, Mexico) but didn't do too well in the "lighter" parts of LatAM (Brazil), mainly because I blend in like a local with Argentinians and Brazilians.

Isn't Argentina mostly white though? Whereabouts in Brazil and Argentina did you go? Planning on a trip sometime later this year, any pointers appreciated!

Post: #292

The more I think about it, I think I've only banged 1 or 2 middle eastern girls, like has been said, usually they fuck their own or white dudes.

I don't think I've even gone on dates with many of them.

Post: #293

(06-01-2018 02:58 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

(06-01-2018 02:33 PM)Crash_Bandicoot Wrote:  I killed parts of LatAm (Colombia, Mexico) but didn't do too well in the "lighter" parts of LatAM (Brazil), mainly because I blend in like a local with Argentinians and Brazilians.

Isn't Argentina mostly white though? Whereabouts in Brazil and Argentina did you go? Planning on a trip sometime later this year, any pointers appreciated!

Oh yeah, I meant to say that Argentina was a "lighter" LatAm county too.

I spent a very short time in Buenos Aires, Argentina and the large Brazilian cities:

For Buenos Aires, the game is actually pretty interesting: Argentinians are incredibly racist against dark people because they associate them with lower class. But if you can dress well, style up, etc. then you can overcome that "lower class" boundary.

Argentinian women prefer their own men and don't like being seen with gringos + all the backpacker girls are amazed with Argentinian men. I actually passed as Argentinean (light colored, tan, tall), so I was getting IOIs from all groups of women...it's ironic because lots of everything I've read on this forum is totally against Argentina. Then again, I literally spent less than 2 days there so I don't want to make assumptions

For Sao Paulo- I also blended in 100% as a Brazilian. I believe that any Indian guy can blend in as a Brazilian - Brazilians are colored from all across the spectrum from pale white and blonde hair to pitch black. Heck, my Italian friends even blended in as 100% Brazilian. Unless you have really distinct northern European features, you won't stand out.

I did get a ton of tinder matches though (25+ a day with some uglies and some cuties) so make sure to use online dating

Girls in Sao Paulo didn't think I was American until I told them that I was (the looking Brazilian factor). And even when they were convinced, they weren't that impressed. Reality is that Sao Paulo is a rich city so being a gringo doesn't bring that much value

With all that being said, Brazil and Argentina have the hottest girls in the world IMO.

Post: #294

^ crash - thanks for the info. Very curious about both Brazil and Argentina because I generally love Latinas. But yes I've heard Argentinian women are somewhat like Ukrainian/Russian girls - super hot, but not the easiest to game.

Post: #295

(06-01-2018 01:45 PM)Crash_Bandicoot Wrote:  Nice, this thread is back in the game!

I liked Beer's quick breakdown, here's mine based on my experiences in the USA (East Coast):

Easiest:

*All black women - both light and dark. I've noticed that black women love dark/brown guys more than their white counterparts

*All Indian women - both light and dark, whitewashed or not. I am light brown myself and I get a ton of IOIs from even the lightest Indian women. Is that common among all Indians? Seems not after reading this thread..

*Any kind of Latinas as long as they aren't completely whitewashed - Latinas give me a shit ton of IOIs - think the moment they reach the Western world they lose the white god fever haha

*Western European women

Doable:

*American girls that are social misfits - artsy, yoga-minded, traveled a ton, etc.

*American girls that have recently (in the past decade) come back from a trip from India. They are nostalgic and feel cultured and shit

*Whitewashed latinas

*East Asian women that are not as white-washed

*Middle Eastern women

*Eastern Euros

Toughest:

*White women who are popular or weary of their social status

*White-washed Asian (chinese, Korean, etc. - not Indian) ethnic women who are trying to be cool and fit in to pop culture

*Extremely liberal women, extremely rich women, hipsters

Good list, but it can be broken down even more:

Extremely open:

Black girls who are more bohemian or educated. I'm talking black neuroscience students, artsy film majors, super liberals. Helps if they grew up in a whiter or more diverse area. Skin color doesn't matter.

Indian girls of all kinds. The whole thing about white-worshipping Indian girls confuses me, I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen it happen. Asian girls are a different story, but I feel like I've seen as many Indian guys dating white girls as I've seen the reverse. Even the most high-society Indian girls who kick it with rich white girls end up going for Indian guys. There was one Indian Alpha Phi at my old college who was one of the only Indians in the sorority -- she ended up with a Sri Lankan dude from the rugby team.

I don't even think skin color really comes into it. I'm dark as hell and I would get stared up and down by this one Indian girl with light skin and blue eyes, even my buddies noticed it. I've had success with North Indians, South Indians, Bangladeshis, light-skin, dark-skin, Hindus, Muslims, and Christians. Same goes for many Indian guys I met. 99% of all Indian girls I've ever known had or were dating Indian guys.

Fairly open:


Asian girls who aren't completely whitewashed/grew up in diverse areas. My hometown was entirely second-gen immigrants in tech -- Indian/Asian couples were not uncommon at all. Hell I'm in such a relationship right now. I've found Asian girls in the Bay are actually super down for Indian guys, many have dated or hooked up with one in the past, there are plenty of Asian girls in general with darker-skinned dudes. SoCal was a little more iffy since they tend to be more whitewashed. Filipinos by and large are very open, Chinese are fairly open, Koreans and Vietnamese probably the least.


African/Caribbean immigrant women. I've had some success with Nigerians and Ethiopians, but I've also run into religious objections and ethnic cliquishness from them. Overall these communities can be a little more insular than normal middle-class black Americans. Still absolutely doable though and also a good option. Online/daygame is the way to go with these girls, worked well for me.

Somewhat open

Jewish/ethnic/hippie white women. More "alternative" white women (or white women who see themselves as Jewish, Russian, etc over being just "white") are the only white girls I've personally been successful with. Even with this demographic, I find things harder/less pleasant than with most non-white ethnic women. That's just me though, I still know a couple Indian guys who date/do well with Polish or Jewish women. I would put more down-home white women from the Midwest in this category as well. Indian male/white female relationships are not uncommon at all in places like Chicago or Urbana-Champaign. The more lower-middle class, less pretentious white girls fit in here too, I definitely know Indians who have had success with them.

Latinas of all kinds. This one is a little iffy for me. In many places Latinas are VERY true to their roots, almost entirely associating with other Mexicans, exclusively dating Mexican dudes. In California Latinos also kill it and have a great SMV going for them. I get along great with Latinos in general but haven't had much luck with the women considering how many Latin bros I've had in my life. Conversely I do know many Indians who have done well with them and they seem to be a great option overall.

Difficult

Middle Eastern/Arab women of all kinds. I know Indians who have dated Armenians and I myself have hooked up with an Egyptian girl, but outside of that, this demographic is a tough one for us. I know of a tiny minority that dates outside the community, but the majority stay true to their roots. This is especially true for groups like Persian Jews, who exclusively stick to each other. I don't know a single Indian guy dating a Middle Eastern girl, I know maybe three or four Persian/Arab girls dating Latinos, whites, or Asians. They're hard for everyone, we're no exception.

Very difficult

WASP women: Difficult primarily because of factors I talked about earlier. The Indian, Asian, etc guys in their social circles do absolutely fine with these women, the trouble is getting there in the first place. Your best shot at them was being in a cool frat in college, most of which are 90% rich white guys who knew each other in college. The number of minorities in this circle is not high at all -- the ones who are there do great but it's hard to break in for a lot of others. This isn't necessarily due to racism, more just an inability to relate (very, very different culture) and the closed-off nature of these groups. Plus some are very pretentious and look down on second-gen ethnic immigrants in general. White-washed ethnic girls are rare in my experience, but they can be even harder than the regular WASP women.

Extremely hood/urban or athletic black women: These are the two demographics of black women I have had absolutely no success with. D1 track athlete types are probably only going to go for other athletes, end of story. You're competing with some of the most ripped, athletic dudes on the planet when it comes to these girls, good luck getting anywhere with them.

Hood black women are tough too -- relating to them will be near impossible (the only culture more different from ours than WASP whites are hood black people). On top of that I feel like there aren't a ton of these women on Tinder, best place to meet them is at certain black clubs -- which again are hard as fuck to game in or vibe with. By this I don't mean generic hip-hop oriented clubs, I mean clubs that are 100% black with a very urban vibe. Haven't been in a while but I doubt I'd succeed in a place like that even now.

I feel like this applies to cholitas/hood Latinas but not nearly to the same extent.

Post: #296

Wow, it's crazy how we went from having such divergent experiences earlier in this thread to now noticing pretty much the exact same things across different demographics of women, lol. Solid info everyone!

Post: #297

If you show up somewhere with super high energy & charisma at the right place & right time I believe that you technically might have shot with someone from ANY of those categories you listed above. As long as there is an initial icebreaker & SOME kind of chemistry is there. Like she's feeling your energy or thinks you're funny or something.

Post: #298

I have a tough time believing that Indians, even northern Indians, could pass as locals in places like Argentina and Brazil. As much as my fellow Indian bros LOVE to be mistaken for Mediterranean and Latino, I don't think the two look even remotely alike. Hell, I don't even think Persians and Indians look that alike either.

Now I speak as someone who has never been to Brazil so I could be dead wrong here but with my experiences with latinos here in the US, they could tell right off the bat that I was an Indian.

All that being said I do applaud the Indian guys that are running game in South America, I've had an epiphany that I could use some ethnic pussy in my life. I've mainly been with white girls int he past and I am looking to expand my reach a bit more. Recently matched with a light skin Indian girl on Bumble and got those digits, supposed to meet up this weekend.

For me to think that Brazilians would see an Indian guy and think he is one of them is a bit tough to believe. Indians have our own very distinct look that makes it tough for people to mistake us for other races but I am not as well traveled so what do I know.....

Post: #299

Life's all about flavor man, I love dating all sorts of women, but eventually after a high enough notch count you know which ones you kill at and which ones are a harder challenge, and which ones are just right time right place.

I just see if a girls cute, no matter the race, then get her out on a date, if she's chill then proceed like usual.

Post: #300

(06-01-2018 06:40 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  I have a tough time believing that Indians, even northern Indians, could pass as locals in places like Argentina and Brazil. As much as my fellow Indian bros LOVE to be mistaken for Mediterranean and Latino, I don't think the two look even remotely alike. Hell, I don't even think Persians and Indians look that alike either.

Now I speak as someone who has never been to Brazil so I could be dead wrong here but with my experiences with latinos here in the US, they could tell right off the bat that I was an Indian.

All that being said I do applaud the Indian guys that are running game in South America, I've had an epiphany that I could use some ethnic pussy in my life. I've mainly been with white girls int he past and I am looking to expand my reach a bit more. Recently matched with a light skin Indian girl on Bumble and got those digits, supposed to meet up this weekend.

For me to think that Brazilians would see an Indian guy and think he is one of them is a bit tough to believe. Indians have our own very distinct look that makes it tough for people to mistake us for other races but I am not as well traveled so what do I know.....

You are sadly mistaken my man....unless you look like Aziz Ansari lol

Only way to find out is to check out Brazil/Argentina. Side benefit of your trip would be some of the finest booty you will ever see in your life