nomadbrah
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RE: Iceland Outlaws Male Genital Mutilation
There's a reason both muslims and jews fight so hard for this, even if they don't articulate it.
I believe it has to do with the cult behavior of both religions. The worst is the islamic practice because it takes place when the boy is like 8 years old or so. That is an intense trauma for a young child.
Imagine that your parents or someone you trust, lure you somewhere and then other males in your family will hold you down, while you scream and shout. Some stranger then cuts your foreskin. This is actually how it happens often in Islam. An immense emotional trauma and feelings of betrayal.
I believe this creates cognitive dissonance which is resolved through a Stockholm syndrome. The anger towards the parents, which is not possible because they are your caretakers, is directed outwards, towards the non-muslims, who "forced" this on you, because they are impure. This creates a powerful emotional bond, where you have to embrace islam, because the alternative would be to hate your parents.
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RE: Iceland Outlaws Male Genital Mutilation
(03-10-2018 05:26 PM)nomadbrah Wrote: There's a reason both muslims and jews fight so hard for this, even if they don't articulate it.
I believe it has to do with the cult behavior of both religions. The worst is the islamic practice because it takes place when the boy is like 8 years old or so. That is an intense trauma for a young child.
Imagine that your parents or someone you trust, lure you somewhere and then other males in your family will hold you down, while you scream and shout. Some stranger then cuts your foreskin. This is actually how it happens often in Islam. An immense emotional trauma and feelings of betrayal.
I believe this creates cognitive dissonance which is resolved through a Stockholm syndrome. The anger towards the parents, which is not possible because they are your caretakers, is directed outwards, towards the non-muslims, who "forced" this on you, because they are impure. This creates a powerful emotional bond, where you have to embrace islam, because the alternative would be to hate your parents.
I agree that this is the worst system. The Jewish custom of doing it very early on creates some physical trauma, but most psychologists including Stefan Molyneux highly overestimate the meaning of experiences in the early 1-2 years. There are psychologists who state that every tiny miniature difference in experience, in micro-aggression or loud noise create huge ramifications in later personality development. I once believed it myself as a young idiot who read Freud at age 17. Then I met plenty of people who had great physical pain in their toddler years through diseases - cried constantly as kids. They turned out absolutely fine. Most long-term trauma is rather connected with such experiences above or sexual abuse while being already very aware of things.
And no -every country in the world can ban circumcision since it's an unnecessary practice. But I would punish it differently than FGM. There should be a fine for normal early-stage circumcision, but prison sentences for Islamic ones done at age 8, and certainly severe punishments for ones done by Muslims. And maybe that is what the lawmakers intended to do. Since they did have some Muslims recently, it was easier to ban the entire practice than to differentiate based on religion and direct practice.
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RE: Iceland Outlaws Male Genital Mutilation
I'm a rarity in Europe as a circumcised man, HOWEVER, it was done in adulthood for medical reasons. It's definitely cleaner and what not, but there's no question it reduces sensitivity fairly significantly, I feel sorry for American/Muslim/Jewish guys who were never given a choice. I imagine the sensitivity gets less and less with age, so if you have it done at birth, well...you're missing out on something nature/God put there on purpose.
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RE: Iceland Outlaws Male Genital Mutilation
I'll support it if it permit to stop things like this:
Quote:The Hollywood EGF Facial — a $650 treatment — involves a cleanse, chemical peel, microneedling, an “electrifying” face mask and a so-called “Epidermal Growth Factor (EGF)” — a serum that happens to be derived from the foreskin of Korean newborns. The substance supposedly helps generate collagen and elastin in the skin.
Following links you get lost and you can't recall all the quotes from previous articles until you stumble upon the site of the woman providing the "facials" :
Quote:THE Hollywood EGF FACIAL
Please call or email for more information and pricing.
Celebrity facialist, Georgia Louise has a secret facial - and Cate Blanchett just leaked it.
Cate Blanchett told Vogue Australia: “Sandy Bullock and I saw this facialist in New York, Georgia Louise, and she gives what we call the penis facial and it’s something – I don’t know what it is, or whether it’s just cause it smells a bit like sperm – there’s some enzyme in it so Sandy refers to it as the penis facial."The facial Cate Blanchett is referring to is Georgia Louise’s ‘Hollywood EGF Facial’ which until now has – somewhat understandably – been an ‘under the radar’ treatment you had to be in the know and on Georgia’s A-list to get … until now.
The facial includes a cleanse, followed by an intensive TCA peel, micro-needling machine and an electrifying mask to calm the skin, followed by her ‘secret box’ of EGF serum (Epidermal Growth Factor). EGF is derived from the progenitor cells of the human fibroblast taken from Korean newborn baby foreskin – which helps to generate collagen and elastin. FDA approved stem cells and peptides are penetrated deep into the skin using a special electric micro- needling wand. This process allows the active ingredients to be transported deep in the skin by creating temporary micro- channel[/i].
I was aware of people eating placenta but this is a new low.
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RE: Iceland Outlaws Male Genital Mutilation
(03-11-2018 08:31 AM)Teedub Wrote: I'm a rarity in Europe as a circumcised man, HOWEVER, it was done in adulthood for medical reasons. It's definitely cleaner and what not, but there's no question it reduces sensitivity fairly significantly, I feel sorry for American/Muslim/Jewish guys who were never given a choice. I imagine the sensitivity gets less and less with age, so if you have it done at birth, well...you're missing out on something nature/God put there on purpose.
It was done to me when I was like 6 or 7, and I only keep two vague souvenirs from it, one of them being about to cry when I was in the hospital bed lol.
Maybe this explains why I can have sometimes several difficulties in orgasming (and having to finish myself). Sometimes that's very annoying for me, and might be for my sexual partners too.
Am I opposed to it? I don't think so. However I support the idea of teaching at least the kids about the pros and cons of it. I never had any proper explanation for why, and my own mother only repeated to me what the tradition tells us. Thank God it was done in a hospital, and not traditionnally (on a piece of cloth, on the floor, then having all kids go for a week in the woods and spend the day and nights singing, and-probably- getting sexually abused).
Well I guess I can thank her, if it allowed me to avoid STDs with all the rawdogging I do.
#Blessed
(This post was last modified: 03-17-2018 06:34 PM by mikado.)
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