Post: #1126

Two oddball connections I keep coming back to:

1) Harvey Weinstein's bizarre claim when he was first exposed back in October that he would take time off from his company and focus on stopping the NRA. Remember how crazy and out-of-left-field that was? It was barely a week after Mandalay Bay, so I can see gun control having been something he as an uber-prog might conveniently (if clumsily) use to distract other progs from his sexual escapades and earn some brownie points from them. But it dovetails with the post-Parkland suspicions that there was a plan in the works for some time for a coordinated and all-in media, celebrity, Democrat, and activist response, ready to roll out when the next suitable event happened. Anyone who's read The Argument can picture a quiet, nerdy planner-type spending a year or two going from org to org, celebrity to celebrity, politician to politician, patiently laying out with PowerPoint slides how they can get what they want if they all work together and stick to a single shared strategy and message set (this is how Rob Stein brought the Democracy Alliance into being, if you haven't read the book). Weinstein, as a major player in Hollywood at the time, would have been a no-brainer to approach with such a plan, given his connections to people who could assemble high-quality propaganda media and events and his stated opposition to gun rights. In hindsight, his bizarre claim seems to let the cat out of the bag on this behind-the-scenes organizing effort - it was on his mind not only because of Las Vegas, but because he was involved in planning the coordinated propaganda response to a future gun-crime set piece.

2) Does nobody remember Cindy Sheehan, "Mother Sheehan", the apotheosis of maternal suffering? The anointed "ordinary grassroots citizen" spokesperson against the Iraq War? The woman with absolute moral authority to speak against the war and the Bush Regime? The woman one dared not question because to do so was an unspeakable insult to every mother of a dead or wounded American soldier since the founding of the Republic? Yeah, so, whatever happened to her? That's a question the Uncanny Mr. Hogg ought to be asking himself - and when he does, he ought to pray that he is merely forgotten when his utility to the cause wears thin. I've seen speculation in a number of places now that Hogg would do the cause more good at this point as a martyr than a spokesman, and I can understand the logic behind it: someone takes him out, the lefty media and politicians and activists blame it on the pro-2A crowd, and - the thinking goes - public opinion is swayed towards new gun control laws and possibly a 2A repeal "for David" and "in David's name". I don't see it happening (or working out that way if it did happen), but if I were in David Hogg's petite little slippers I think I'd be preoccupied with the thought of where his fame and influence are leading me and what comes next. (Disclaimer: I emphatically do not want that to happen to him. I'd rather he just slink back into obscurity like Cindy Sheehan did.)

Post: #1127

This is a tragedy for gun rights:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/31/gun...rally.html

Vermont has long been one of the states in the U.S. with the best gun laws (meaning little to none) and now they are buying into the Parkland hysteria and banning mags over 10 rounds. The governor has said he will sign the bill.

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(03-31-2018 09:53 PM)Alsos Wrote:  2) Does nobody remember Cindy Sheehan,... Yeah, so, whatever happened to her?

Cindy made the mistake of trying to parley her minor fame into a congressional campaign. She ran against Nancy Pelosi. The establishment wasn't going to have any of that - the former media darling was dropped the next day.

Post: #1129

(03-31-2018 10:05 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  This is a tragedy for gun rights:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/31/gun...rally.html

Vermont has long been one of the states in the U.S. with the best gun laws (meaning little to none) and now they are buying into the Parkland hysteria and banning mags over 10 rounds. The governor has said he will sign the bill.

The losses are really starting to rack up, the major retailers self banning sales to under 21 wasn't too big on it's own, but once Florida caved like a soggy pile of shit it became very disconcerting. For me the damage is done, Florida is now restricting constitutional rights to adults and it all happened under a republican governor. Will be interesting how many more states flip and pass some sort of legislation. Bump stocks, magazine sizes, all that stuff is just building the foundation for bigger prizes. That anyone can look themselves in the mirror and still say this is in response to the Douglas High School shooting is laughable.

And now we have leftists beginning to casually mention the 2nd amendment being repealed. I don't know if I've ever felt more conservative and right leaning than I do today.

Post: #1130

I wonder if this is the never-Trumpers of the one-party-two-party uni-state dropping the facade of competing ideas and hitting the gas pedal to tyranny.

Post: #1131

(03-31-2018 07:53 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  ^^

So he is basically the gamma Elliot Rodger? They do kind of look alike.

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Edit.

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(03-30-2018 09:04 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  Hypothetical question:

If we can't criticize stupid ideas because it's a 17 year old saying them, does that mean that it's also mean spirited bullying to attack a 17 year old white supremacist?

Very baity question.

People with stupid ideas should be criticized, gun control, racism, or otherwise.

Post: #1134

(03-31-2018 11:44 PM)Once Was Not Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 10:05 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  This is a tragedy for gun rights:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/31/gun...rally.html

Vermont has long been one of the states in the U.S. with the best gun laws (meaning little to none) and now they are buying into the Parkland hysteria and banning mags over 10 rounds. The governor has said he will sign the bill.

The losses are really starting to rack up, the major retailers self banning sales to under 21 wasn't too big on it's own, but once Florida caved like a soggy pile of shit it became very disconcerting. For me the damage is done, Florida is now restricting constitutional rights to adults and it all happened under a republican governor. Will be interesting how many more states flip and pass some sort of legislation. Bump stocks, magazine sizes, all that stuff is just building the foundation for bigger prizes. That anyone can look themselves in the mirror and still say this is in response to the Douglas High School shooting is laughable.

And now we have leftists beginning to casually mention the 2nd amendment being repealed. I don't know if I've ever felt more conservative and right leaning than I do today.

From the article:

Quote:Scott has indicated that he intends to sign the bill, and though he understands the disappointment of some in Vermont, he has faith that they will “get accustomed to the new normal.”

“I think at the end of the day," he said, "they’ll soon learn that what we have proposed, what’s being passed at this time, doesn’t intrude upon the Second Amendment. It doesn’t take away guns, and I believe that we will get accustomed to the new normal, which is trying to address this underlying violence that we are seeing across the nation.”

Sure, just like de-platforming people from social media doesn't intrude on the First Amendment, nor does FOSTA. But I guess they can get used to the new normal too, eh? And this politician is supposedly one of the "conservatives."

Post: #1135

Kaotic:

Leading question sure, but it uses a technique I learned from Trump: the double bind.

It forces the other person into a lose-lose choice where they either have to concede the point and say there are some situations that a Teenager should be attack verbally, or staying consistent results in them saying something that their peers will construe as defending nazism.

Post: #1136

There's nothing Naziesque about criticizing (emotionally seen as attacking) teenagers who want to talk about their political beliefs or public policy.

Once you open your mouth on public stage, all protections are off - if they're even younger - their parents get rightfully criticized also.

Post: #1137

(04-02-2018 11:14 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

(03-30-2018 09:04 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  does that mean that it's also mean spirited bullying to attack a 17 year old white supremacist?

People with stupid ideas should be criticized, gun control, racism, or otherwise.

The rules of engagement in The West are:

a) Are you promoting the reorganisation of society and redistribution of value to the left's certified victim groups?

You're a good person. Say what you like.

b) Are you promoting free association, meritocracy and either no or the diminishment of organising society around identity groups?

You're a bad person. Shut up.

c) Are you promoting the reorganisation of society and redistribution of value to the left's certified oppressor groups?

You're literally Hitler. Ban them.

Even though the policies of a) are almost always unpopular, society has been so characterised by a)'s dominance and the fear of feeling and being labeled as bad for challenging it is unsurprisingly too much for the softest generation in history.

The left is the new Church of Rome, but with a twist. We are all born equal. But then we are corrupted by various insidious forces like Torryism, capitalism and the patriarchy. If you end up under the oppression of such influences you are a victim and your only path to dignity and survival is joining the left. If you end up as a beneficiary of oppression the only act of salvation is to subjugate yourself to the will of the left and pay your penance in the form of giving away your labour and resources.

Speak ill of the left's doctrine and you shall be excommunicated from mainstream society.

Produce scientific work at odds with the left's doctrine and you shall be hounded from your practice.

Post: #1138

(04-02-2018 12:32 PM)kaotic Wrote:  their parents get rightfully criticized also.

Which one--the FBI Agent or the CNN producer?

Post: #1139

(04-02-2018 02:55 PM)Hypno Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 12:32 PM)kaotic Wrote:  their parents get rightfully criticized also.

Which one--the FBI Agent or the CNN producer?

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Jack Abernethy has more stones than that spineless coward Ingraham, who should be sacked for being both spineless and witless against that creep Hogg. It's the current year and you still have people like that foolishly hand over a scalp to the left by "apologizing".

Post: #1142

I hope he at least gave Laura Cuckaham a good lecture before intervening on her behalf.

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(04-02-2018 05:54 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

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Background Checks for Gun Sales Shatter March Record

Quote:Background checks for gun sales shattered a record in March while celebrities and Parkland gun control activists pushed for more restrictions on Second Amendment rights.

The previous record for March was 2,523,265 background checks in 2016, but FBI numbers show there were 2,767,699 background checks in March 2018.

There were 19 consecutive months wherein background check records were broken during the Obama administration. That string of record months began with May 2015 and ended with November 2016. Every month a record was set regarding background checks for that particular month.

The number of background checks declined from record numbers by 500,000 in December 2016. But Breitbart News pointed out that even with the 500,000 decrease, December 2016 remained one of the top three Decembers of all time. Only December 2015 and 2012 surpassed it.

Background checks have not been moving at a record-breaking pace during the Trump administration, and this was largely believed to be the result of a lack of any real threat of gun control. Then came the February 14 Parkland school shooting–and the gun control activism that followed–and Americans had reason to fear more laws once more.

On March 28, 2018, Breitbart News predicted that the Parkland gun control activists would drive Americans toward the Second Amendment instead of away from it. Reports of the Second Amendment Foundation’s surge in membership, skyrocketing donations to the NRA PAC during the month of February, and now, record-breaking background checks in March, bolster that prediction.

Post: #1148

After the shooting Parkland HS has required all students to use clear plastic backpacks for security reasons. Since then the student body has gone ballistic claiming the policy a violation of their first amendment rights. I sincerely wonder if someone on the school staff is trolling them to make a point about civil rights.

Post: #1149

Its really a violation of their Fourth Amendment rights, but they've never read the Constitution so what difference does it make?

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