Post: #26

(01-28-2018 12:55 AM)Cane Toad Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 12:30 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Who gives a shit if she ends up with a drug record?

Maybe it will be the kick in the guts she needs to get her life together.

You help her by forcing her to deal with reality.

But let's get serious. Were you shielding her from the consequences of her decisions or shielding your own drugs from the scrutiny of authorities?

I give a shit what happens to the girls I am with.

And mate, I get drugged tested so often that I wouldn't have time to even know what drugs were.

Where the fuck is your sense of decency Mr Medical Training? So you want a corpse , what then ?" RVF some girl with me died how do I dispose of the body?"

Next time call 911, dump her purse and throw away any illegal narcotics, keep any Rx bottles to give to emergency services-stop being a dick, women are fucking human beings and deserve basic fucking decency even if they have drug issues. I find your disposition concerning women in medical distress alarming , and your concern for her "drug record" unconvincing. I also think you are a troll.

We do not hate women on this forum, we may be disappointed in their behavior , but we care for them with basic humanity-when a woman over doses we call help, period.

Post: #27

(01-28-2018 12:55 AM)Cane Toad Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 12:30 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Who gives a shit if she ends up with a drug record?

Maybe it will be the kick in the guts she needs to get her life together.

You help her by forcing her to deal with reality.

But let's get serious. Were you shielding her from the consequences of her decisions or shielding your own drugs from the scrutiny of authorities?

I give a shit what happens to the girls I am with.

And mate, I get drugged tested so often that I wouldn't have time to even know what drugs were.

double post, delete.

Post: #28

Do not mix downers with downers, it can be fatal.
Do not abuse drugs

You are lucky this time, if a shit like that happens again immediately call 911

Post: #29

I would start a thread on RVF instead of calling 911, since anything the doctors do will be influenced by ((((((((them)))))))))

Post: #30

Hey guys,

A girl was in my bed last night and she had a heart attack. She said she felt like an elephant was on her chest and due to my medical training I put a stuffed animal mouse next to her because I know elephants are scared of mice. Should I have done anything different?

Post: #31

Did she affirmatively consent to the mouse? Or sign a HIPAA form?

Post: #32

(01-28-2018 02:27 AM)Cane Toad Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 01:39 AM)puckerman Wrote:  You either call 911 or take her to the emergency room yourself. There is no other option.

Well, I juxst tried another option...

Look, you fucked up. You should be ashamed of yourself. You're just lucky she didn't die. You did the wrong thing, but you got away with it this time.

You should come away from this and learn the lesson to always call 911 when somebody in your presence is unconcious and unable to be roused, due to drugs, or really for any reason whatsoever. Instead, judging by your responses in this thread, you have not taken that lesson to heart, and you're trying to hamster your way into thinking you did the right thing because there was no "drama" with the legitimate authorities looking into the situation to see what happened and what needs to be done to help this messed up girl. Avoiding "drama" was not the right choice.

You fucked up. You did the wrong thing. Take to heart that you should have called. Repent from your stupidity, and commit to do the right thing from now on, so you can redeem yourself. Don't continue being wrongheaded.

The fact that she thinks everything is fine is very unfortunate. Apologize to her for not calling, and promise her you will call 911 next time, whether she wants you to or not, so she can get some kind of wake up call out of this.

Post: #33

This is a real question? Having a manslaughter charge on your record is not good for any future game.

Post: #34

A girl I was with once tried to cut herself in front of me (some BS drama), except she did it across for attention instead of down.

I still called the police and now she'll never be able to buy a handgun.

Cane Toad, you fucked up but got lucky. Don't risk it again.

Post: #35

I suspect this thread is not going in the direction OP was hoping for.

Post: #36

I'm wondering if this post wasn't inspired by the second section of Lou Reed's magnum opus "Street Hassle." Anyone ever heard this? It's hilariously nasty advice as to what to do with a girlfriend who O.D.'d.

If you listen to the whole thing, Bruce Springsteen circa 1978 puts in an uncredited appearance after this part. I think he connected to Lou through Patti Smith.

Street Hassle

Hey, that cunt's not breathing
I think she's had too much of something or other
Hey, man, you know what I mean
I don't mean to scare you
But you're the one who came here
And you're the one who's gotta take her when you leave

I'm not being smart or trying to be cold on my part
And I'm not gonna wear my heart on my sleeve
But you know people get all emotional
And sometimes man they just don't act rationally
Oh, they think they're just on TV

Sha la la la, man
Why don't you just slip her away?

You know, I'm glad that we met man
It was really nice talking
And I really wish that there was a little more time to speak
But you know it could be a hassle
Trying to explain myself to a police officer
About how it was your old lady got herself stiffed

And it's not like we could help
But there's nothing no one could do
And if there was, man, you know I would have been the first
Oh when someone turns that blue
Well, it's a universal truth
Then you just know that bitch will never fuck again

By the way, that's really some bad shit
That you came to our place with
But you ought to be more careful around the little girls
It's either the best or it's the worst
And since I don't have to choose, I guess I won't
And I know this ain't no way to treat a guest
But why don't you grab your old lady by the feet
And just lay her out in the darkest street
And by morning, she's just another hit and run

You know, some people got no choice
And they can never find a voice
To talk with that they can even call their own
So the first thing that they see
That allows them the right to be
Why they follow it
You know, it's called bad luck

Post: #37

Word advice to anyone else that decides to searching about OD girlfriends in the distant future using search function of the fourm. Call the 911/EMS they do not care about the drugs. Any EMS personal that see any drug paraphernalia, they will tell you to hide the stuff before the cops show up. EMT and Paramedic in the US, care about getting they patient alive and stable to hospital.

Post: #38

I suspect this whole thread is fiction and a consequence of OP's drama troll proclivities

Post: #39

(01-28-2018 09:55 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  I'm wondering if this post wasn't inspired by the second section of Lou Reed's magnum opus "Street Hassle." Anyone ever heard this? It's hilariously nasty advice as to what to do with a girlfriend who O.D.'d.

If you listen to the whole thing, Bruce Springsteen circa 1978 puts in an uncredited appearance after this part. I think he connected to Lou through Patti Smith.

(snippped because I'm not a newbie who quotes entire walls of texts)

OP is either a very bad troll or very stupid. Maybe both. You've a person having a seizure in your house drifting in and out of consciousness and your first instinct is to go post about in on forum? Social media really does make people retarded. A small part of me wishes she dies just so OP can go to jail for negligent homicide.

And DOBA, Eminem covered the same topic:

Hook:

I never meant to give you mushrooms girl
I never meant to bring you to my world
Now you sitting in the corner crying
And now its my fault (My fault)
I never meant to give you mushrooms girl
I never meant to bring you to my world
Now you sitting in the corner crying
And now its my fault (My fault)
Verse1:
I went to Johns rave with Ron and Dave
And met a new wave blond babe with half of her head shaved
A nurse aid who came to get laid and tied up
With first aid tape and raped on the first date
Susan an ex heroin addict who just stopped using
She loved booze and alternative music
Told me she was going back to using again
I said wait first try this hallucinogen
Its better then heroin and booze and gin
Come here lets go in here
Who's in the den? (Its me and Kelly)
My bad lets try another room (I don't trust you)
Shut up slut chew up this mushroom
This will help you get in touch with your roots
Walking barefoot butt naked and run in the woods
(Oh hell I might as well try them this party is so drag)
Oh dag I didn't mean for you to eat the whole bag (Uh)

I never meant to give you mushrooms girl
I never meant to bring you to my world
Now you sitting in the corner crying
And now its my fault (My fault)
I never meant to give you mushrooms girl
I never meant to bring you to my world
Now you sitting in the corner crying
And now its my fault (My fault)

Yo Sue (Get away from me I don't know you)
Oh shoot she's tripping (I need to go puke)
I wasn't trying to turn this into something major
I just wanted to make you appreciate nature
Susie stop crying I don't hate ya
The world is not against you
I am sorry your father raped you
So you had your little coochie in your dad's mouth
That ain't no reason to start wiggin' and spaz out
She said (Help me I think I am having a seizure)
I said I am high too bitch
Quit grabbing my t-shirt (Let go)
Would you calm down you are starting to scare me
She said (I am 26 years old and I am not married I don't even have any
Kids and I can't cook)
I am over here Sue
You are talking to the plant
Look we need to get to a hospital
Before it is too late
'Cause I never seen one eat as many 'shrooms as you ate

I never meant to give you mushrooms girl
I never meant to bring you to my world
Now you sitting in the corner crying
And now its my fault (My fault)
I never meant to give you mushrooms girl
I never meant to bring you to my world
Now you sitting in the corner crying
And now its my fault (My fault)

Susie where you going you better be careful
(leave me alone dad I am sick of getting my hair pulled)
I am not your dad
And try not to swallow your tongue
Want some gum?
Put down the scissors before you do something dumb
I will be right back just chill baby please?
I got to go find Dave he is the one who gave me these
John where's Dave at before I bash you
He's in the bathroom
I think he is taking a crap dude
Dave pull up your pants
We need an ambulance
There's a girl upstairs talking to plants
Chopping her hair off
And there's only two days left of spring break
How long do these things take to wear off?
Well it depends on how may you've had
I took 3 she had the other 22 caps
Now she is upstairs crying out her eye balls
Drinking Lysol (She is going to die dude)
I know and its my fault (My god)

I never meant to give you mushrooms girl
I never meant to bring you to my world
Now you sitting in the corner crying
And now its my fault (My fault)
I never meant to give you mushrooms girl
I never meant to bring you to my world
Now you sitting in the corner crying
And now its my fault (My fault)
I am so sorry I am so sorry
Susie please wake up
What are you doing
Your not dead

Post: #40

(01-28-2018 12:44 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Interesting thread, and this touches on something I've been thinking about for a while.

If you're not living your life in a way that you can do what needs to be done without hesitating then your problem isn't a lack of guidelines, your problem is you.

This affects us all in various ways and fields of our lives, but to the greatest extent possible a man should be at peace with his ways and his means and execute them without hesitation or remorse.

You've obviously never lived in the US. Sometimes people have a medical problem and invite the police into their house and pick up a charge and probation for the smallest like like a joint in the ashtray.

The golden rule for dealing with police in the US is you never, under any circumstances invite them into your home. You'll find yourself standing before the man, probably on probation, unable to travel, probably pissing in a cup twice a week at $40 a pop out of your pocket, and picking up trash on the side of the road for community service.

Carry her outside on the lawn or sidewalk then call the cops. Say you were walking home from cigarettes or bubble gum at the gas station when she fell down. If you're really smart you'll just bring her outside and leave her there then call the cops when you're back inside.

Post: #41

(01-28-2018 11:15 AM)PainPositive Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 12:44 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Interesting thread, and this touches on something I've been thinking about for a while.

If you're not living your life in a way that you can do what needs to be done without hesitating then your problem isn't a lack of guidelines, your problem is you.

This affects us all in various ways and fields of our lives, but to the greatest extent possible a man should be at peace with his ways and his means and execute them without hesitation or remorse.

You've obviously never lived in the US. Sometimes people have a medical problem and invite the police into their house and pick up a charge and probation for the smallest like like a joint in the ashtray.

The golden rule for dealing with police in the US is you never, under any circumstances invite them into your home. You'll find yourself standing before the man, probably on probation, unable to travel, probably pissing in a cup twice a week at $40 a pop out of your pocket, and picking up trash on the side of the road for community service.

Carry her outside on the lawn or sidewalk then call the cops. Say you were walking home from cigarettes or bubble gum at the gas station when she fell down. If you're really smart you'll just bring her outside and leave her there then call the cops when you're back inside.

This is my point exactly. You have to have your ways and means locked down hard. Want to do drugs? Don't leave them in places they can easily be found. What if you're the one that ends up with some bad shit, or God forbid there's a fire in the apartment and you have to get out ASAP.

Don't want authorities at your house? The solution is not to sit next to a girl that might be dying and hope for the best. The solution is to get her the fuck out of your house. You take her to the hospital then you go home and clean your stash out (it's all in one place, right?) You flush the shit. It's going to be hours before the cops arrive, if they turn up at all, at which point you tell them "I'm happy to answer your questions but I don't consent to a search of my property just 'cause some chick took too many of her own sleeping pills".

You have a lawyer, right? What's his number?

This is what I'm talking about. You have to take control of situations like these, and the more ducks you have lined up in your everyday life the less you have to scramble to arrange the rest at the last second.

Post: #42

Whats with the poor quality of trolls lately? We're not attracting the best, folks.

Post: #43

One week ban for OP

Post: #44

(01-28-2018 11:15 AM)PainPositive Wrote:  You've obviously never lived in the US. Sometimes people have a medical problem and invite the police into their house and pick up a charge and probation for the smallest like like a joint in the ashtray.

Sorry Brother, this simply is not true. In fact, in most states stricken hardest with the opioid epidemic, it's actually illegal for the police to charge you for drug possession if you report an overdose. Simply for all the reasons we're talking about here. For the exact reason OP posted this--so people don't do stupid shit like we just read. If it's not illegal, it's definitely against law enforcement policy.

All police are now issued Narcan, the drug treatment for opioid overdoses and a lot of times the police are the first people on the scene because they are actively patrolling the area. If time is of the essence, you don't want to deny them access to the patient. Someone's life is on the line.

You're putting out some dangerous and unqualified information that could hurt someone.

Besides that, possession of a tiny amount of weed like you suggest is a friggin' citation. Like a speeding ticket. It's not even a drug charge.

Post: #45

RVF, my apartment smells of smoke and and the door handles are hot for some reason.

I have some fire training so I'm currently doing the dishes. I thought about calling the fire department but I don't want to jump the gun and look beta.

Anyone else had a similar experience?

Post: #46

Its called a 'concern for welfare' phone call.

You can look yourself in the mirror and make it now.

My buddy dated a complete idiot with substance abuse issues in her past. He finally got free of it and she sent him a text two weeks later saying 'goodbye, I've had a nice life etc.' - short, cryptic but hinting heavily. He showed it to me saying he didn't know what to do.

I got on the mobile and dialled '111' (911 in Australia where I was at the time) and had a row with the operator about which service I needed. "I dunno it sounds like that would be an ambulance?" she responded 'no with something like this its called a 'concern for welfare' and the police will go there and make sure that she's okay."

Hung up. quite a few people got stressed and ripped into me for it .. a 'single mother' a 'five year old daughter that loves her', 'this is gonna f$%k up her child care!" I shrugged.

Half an hour later my buddy gets a call from the police. They broke in, found her, she'd OD'ed. Much later she'd have been dead. She was in hospital, no charges and she was reunited with her kid. Still has her to this day.

Had a gang leader and his cronies try and kick me to death once. People did a lot to try and get the case dropped. When it went to court it came out that he had been getting or and more out of control. He went to jail. Apparently he's tucked his tail between his legs since he came back out.

It takes an intervention. Thats what interventions are for. No interventions and eventually a lot more addicts would end up OD'ing and lots more try hard 'tough guys' would eventually end up killing or maiming someone.

No one gives a sh*t if you are a decorated cop or not the best citizen or whatever. You can reach out to helplines, talk things through with people who are qualified or that you trust. You do what you can to make people aware of what happened, you go through the same channels and authorities that a weasel or a war hero or any other guy whatever would have to go through, you leave it in the hands of those with the expertise and the weight lifts off your shoulders.

>>>>The fact that you have asked for advice on here says everything, you want to be able to do the right thing, either now if you can or in the future<<<<

You want to act responsibly, doesn't have to be over responsible, just acting promptly in a way that avoids unnecessary harm from happening.

I wish you luck buddy.

Post: #47

Guys, i'm on a date, there's a girl grabbing my dick from under the table, and i'm not sure what to do.

I'm trained in the art of game. Do I order more appetizers or just take her home with a hug close?

Post: #48

(01-27-2018 11:49 PM)Cane Toad Wrote:  This is a bit of a blurt while I sit and watch that the dumb chick doesn't die...

(01-28-2018 12:04 AM)Cane Toad Wrote:  Not trolling here,

Just asking the question...at what point do you call emergency services and destroy a girl's life when she is admitted to hospital and then having a drug record?

At some point, you have to learn to stop worrying about silly bitches making silly bitch mistakes.

Your responsibility isn't to sit here and stress out about how to save her from herself, it's to get her to a hospital where she belongs and then extract yourself. She's a disaster and you don't need to be part of it.

Post: #49

Drag her ass outside and call the cops. The fuck is wrong with you?

Post: #50

This has to be one of the dumbest threads ever, if a girl OD's phone the fucking ambulance or if it would be quicker rush her to the hospital yourself, assuming you can drive there within minutes.

OP's next thread,

"House is burning down, what should I do? I have a garden house and some 5 gallon buckets......>"