Post: #26

(01-05-2018 02:11 PM)TheGoldenJew Wrote:  This should help.

You don't need a ring to show someone else that your dick works and you got some cash. In fact when you don't got cash, not getting sex and you show off your ring, it can come off very incongruent and fake.

Just drive your expensive car around and have an arm candy when you really want to show off those stuff...
Also when I see someone with a ring, I am thinking he is a cuck most of the time especially if he is young.

Post: #27

(01-05-2018 12:28 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 07:35 PM)xxx Wrote:  A lot is made about the risks involved in modern marriage, but not enough is said about the effects that avoiding marriage may have on man and his potential.

A wife provides a stability and a sense of support that cannot be replicated. If ones goal is to reach a position of power or even just stability and optimal performance in work, a wife's role as supporter cannot be underestimated. The role as a father is also one that is crucial in order to find balance between work and family life, and is almost impossible to replace.

I think there is almost a biological obligation to find a life partner and have children; otherwise, like childless women, we risk damaging our mental health. I feel there are risks in not getting married that may be equal to those of getting married.

I've never been married and have no kids and I'm just fine. The overwhelming majority of my friends have been married and divorced and have custody issues with the children, have no retirement funds, lost their homes in the divorce, etc.

In contrast, I own 2 homes, own my car, am debt free, have a rocking retirement fund (Thank you, Mr. Trump)... I don't have to worry about which weekend the crumb-snatchers are coming over. I can keep loaded firearms in the house, watch porn, bang a different chick when the opportunity arises. I can travel at will, go wherever I want and when I want. I can come home and watch Sports Center in my undies on the couch. I don't have to watch retarded kids movies... I've never changed a shit-filled diaper. I don't have to worry about my daughter having a teen pregnancy. I don't have to worry that my son grows up to be a criminal or a drug addict. I don't get sick every other week because kids are nasty and bring home a cold or flu continuously. I don't have stupid toys and shit scattered all over the house. I never lost sleep because of a crying kid.

I don't regret a thing. Where's the downside of that?

How old are you? Because if you're already over forty and feel this way, I think you''ll be fine. But if you're younger, then I think you'll run the "risk" of changing your mind. Think about great fatherhood must be to put up with all those negatives, and still decide to have children. Or maybe most men don't even take into account these negative reasons and go in with blinders on, then wonder what the fuck happened to their life 5-10+ years later. I'm not completely sure I agree with Lizard that most men need to marry, but that this is what's best for society so men are shamed into it.

Post: #28

First of all, great thread topic. I am married, have been for almost a year now. Before we got married we have been together for 5 years. I believe getting married is 100% for the woman in the west. However, marriage is not a bad thing if you find a quality good woman who shares the same vommon values. My wife knows i'm the leader of my household. She knows i'm red pill. She knows I will leave her on a drop of a dime. I fuck her like shes the last female on earth like every red pill man should be doing. Sometimes i'll go out and spin plates on the side, but still make sure im ready to take care of her when i get home. A good marriage is worth getting married for. Me and my wife has a lot of kids (blended family) With that being said I can literally sit down all day long and not lift a finger and she will not complain until about 3 days of doing so. Mother and father in law were rated before I got married. They are tolerable along with the rest of her family. So..in a nutshell if you do your homework and somehow find a quality girl in the west (raised by both koms and pops with good family values and a strong since of commitment) marriage is absolutly worth it. Its feast or fathom with marriage. It can be the worse thing that will ever happen to you or the best thing that ever happened to you. I believe marriage is what you make it. Are you constantly gaming your wife? Being red pill we know theres not that special one, only a tolerable woman. We also know that woman will stray on you if she is unhappy. Marriage is hard work but if you put in the work, marriage can be a beautiful thing.

I gave my wife divorce papers already and she smiled, went to the bathroom and wiped her ass with them. Her exact words were "your the leader of this family and your getting off course. Look at the kids S3K. Is this that serious which we can't get through? Though i'm submissive to you, you told me you value my opionion. And my opionion is I truely think this is something we can work out". We worked it out. She was correct, Though i was ready to call it quits I didn't spend enough time evaluating the situation. A good wife will keep you on course. Marriage is worth it if you do your homework. Of course I have a pre-nup. Concerning the kids only though 50/50. If we dont work out she deserves some money for the duration she was in the marriage. Being in a LTR is NOT the same (from a womans point of view) of being married. Not because of the money, but because of the emotion which comes with marriage. Now the normal slut will get married, pop a kid out and get a divorce for the money. You'll know a quality woman when you interact with one.

Post: #29

(01-05-2018 04:31 PM)Conquistador Wrote:  How old are you? Because if you're already over forty and feel this way, I think you''ll be fine. But if you're younger, then I think you'll run the "risk" of changing your mind. Think about great fatherhood must be to put up with all those negatives, and still decide to have children. Or maybe most men don't even take into account these negative reasons and go in with blinders on, then wonder what the fuck happened to their life 5-10+ years later. I'm not completely sure I agree with Lizard that most men need to marry, but that this is what's best for society so men are shamed into it.

I'm old enough to be fine and I generally date/attract younger women.

I can still have children if I choose, but at least I have all my shit in order and didn't lose it all in a divorce in my 30's, nor squander my savings in the early years when I didn't have all my shit in order.

I spent my younger years balling out and not stuck at home with a person I'm going to learn to despise and divorce in a few years after we have children together and are inextricably intertwined for the rest of our lives.

I can't think of one downside for this, but I can think of hundreds of downsides for getting married and having kids.

Post: #30

(01-05-2018 04:45 PM)S3K2 Wrote:  First of all, great thread topic. I am married, have been for almost a year now. Before we got married we have been together for 5 years. I believe getting married is 100% for the woman in the west. However, marriage is not a bad thing if you find a quality good woman who shares the same vommon values. My wife knows i'm the leader of my household. She knows i'm red pill. She knows I will leave her on a drop of a dime. I fuck her like shes the last female on earth like every red pill man should be doing. Sometimes i'll go out and spin plates on the side, but still make sure im ready to take care of her when i get home. A good marriage is worth getting married for. Me and my wife has a lot of kids (blended family) With that being said I can literally sit down all day long and not lift a finger and she will not complain until about 3 days of doing so. Mother and father in law were rated before I got married. They are tolerable along with the rest of her family. So..in a nutshell if you do your homework and somehow find a quality girl in the west (raised by both koms and pops with good family values and a strong since of commitment) marriage is absolutly worth it. Its feast or fathom with marriage. It can be the worse thing that will ever happen to you or the best thing that ever happened to you. I believe marriage is what you make it. Are you constantly gaming your wife? Being red pill we know theres not that special one, only a tolerable woman. We also know that woman will stray on you if she is unhappy. Marriage is hard work but if you put in the work, marriage can be a beautiful thing.

I gave my wife divorce papers already and she smiled, went to the bathroom and wiped her ass with them. Her exact words were "your the leader of this family and your getting off course. Look at the kids S3K. Is this that serious which we can't get through? Though i'm submissive to you, you told me you value my opionion. And my opionion is I truely think this is something we can work out". We worked it out. She was correct, Though i was ready to call it quits I didn't spend enough time evaluating the situation. A good wife will keep you on course. Marriage is worth it if you do your homework. Of course I have a pre-nup. Concerning the kids only though 50/50. If we dont work out she deserves some money for the duration she was in the marriage. Being in a LTR is NOT the same (from a womans point of view) of being married. Not because of the money, but because of the emotion which comes with marriage. Now the normal slut will get married, pop a kid out and get a divorce for the money. You'll know a quality woman when you interact with one.

Why did you hand divorce papers to your wife? Did she show you those shit smeared papers to prove that she wiped her ass with them?

Post: #31

I like love...I like everything Hollywood tells me what love is

I understand in a galaxy far far away love meant commitment and social integration and family

Young girls played with dolls (pseudo children)..boys like toy cars and toy soldiers

The only change between the genders..... girls still want their dolls (children)....and the KEN doll doesn't matter.

IF government and women are telling men.....men don't matter (except their money)

Whats the upside to getting married?....I got a sock puppet with money ...he's very cute and I can throw the sock away on laundry day

Post: #32

Why marry? What is wrong with cohabitation?

Post: #33

Quote: Why did you hand divorce papers to your wife? Did she show you those shit smeared papers to prove that she wiped her ass with them?

She gave me a hard time about working when she knows I expect her to be a house wife. She knew how I felt about woman working vs being a house wife.

No, she didn't show me the shit smeared papers. She told me she had done so. I watched her go into the bathroom with them.

Post: #34

(01-05-2018 04:45 PM)S3K2 Wrote:  First of all, great thread topic. I am married, have been for almost a year now. Before we got married we have been together for 5 years. I believe getting married is 100% for the woman in the west. However, marriage is not a bad thing if you find a quality good woman who shares the same vommon values. My wife knows i'm the leader of my household. She knows i'm red pill. She knows I will leave her on a drop of a dime. I fuck her like shes the last female on earth like every red pill man should be doing. Sometimes i'll go out and spin plates on the side, but still make sure im ready to take care of her when i get home. A good marriage is worth getting married for. Me and my wife has a lot of kids (blended family) With that being said I can literally sit down all day long and not lift a finger and she will not complain until about 3 days of doing so. Mother and father in law were rated before I got married. They are tolerable along with the rest of her family. So..in a nutshell if you do your homework and somehow find a quality girl in the west (raised by both koms and pops with good family values and a strong since of commitment) marriage is absolutly worth it. Its feast or fathom with marriage. It can be the worse thing that will ever happen to you or the best thing that ever happened to you. I believe marriage is what you make it. Are you constantly gaming your wife? Being red pill we know theres not that special one, only a tolerable woman. We also know that woman will stray on you if she is unhappy. Marriage is hard work but if you put in the work, marriage can be a beautiful thing.

I gave my wife divorce papers already and she smiled, went to the bathroom and wiped her ass with them. Her exact words were "your the leader of this family and your getting off course. Look at the kids S3K. Is this that serious which we can't get through? Though i'm submissive to you, you told me you value my opionion. And my opionion is I truely think this is something we can work out". We worked it out. She was correct, Though i was ready to call it quits I didn't spend enough time evaluating the situation. A good wife will keep you on course. Marriage is worth it if you do your homework. Of course I have a pre-nup. Concerning the kids only though 50/50. If we dont work out she deserves some money for the duration she was in the marriage. Being in a LTR is NOT the same (from a womans point of view) of being married. Not because of the money, but because of the emotion which comes with marriage. Now the normal slut will get married, pop a kid out and get a divorce for the money. You'll know a quality woman when you interact with one.

Does your wife know that you are gaming on the side ( as you commented in your other posts) ? Does she know you are hitting up other women and cheating on her?

Post: #35

"Marry or don't marry, and you will regret it." - Kierkegaard

To answer OP's question: any downsides mentioned so far are trivial unless you're a corporate guy and everyone's goal should be to get out of that racket and sort out your money situation, then decide if you want to get married or not.

Doesn't matter who you pick as long as she doesn't have any red flags. You're the man so it's your job to lead and shape her.

Post: #36

(01-05-2018 12:28 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 07:35 PM)xxx Wrote:  A lot is made about the risks involved in modern marriage, but not enough is said about the effects that avoiding marriage may have on man and his potential.

A wife provides a stability and a sense of support that cannot be replicated. If ones goal is to reach a position of power or even just stability and optimal performance in work, a wife's role as supporter cannot be underestimated. The role as a father is also one that is crucial in order to find balance between work and family life, and is almost impossible to replace.

I think there is almost a biological obligation to find a life partner and have children; otherwise, like childless women, we risk damaging our mental health. I feel there are risks in not getting married that may be equal to those of getting married.

I've never been married and have no kids and I'm just fine. The overwhelming majority of my friends have been married and divorced and have custody issues with the children, have no retirement funds, lost their homes in the divorce, etc.

In contrast, I own 2 homes, own my car, am debt free, have a rocking retirement fund (Thank you, Mr. Trump)... I don't have to worry about which weekend the crumb-snatchers are coming over. I can keep loaded firearms in the house, watch porn, bang a different chick when the opportunity arises. I can travel at will, go wherever I want and when I want. I can come home and watch Sports Center in my undies on the couch. I don't have to watch retarded kids movies... I've never changed a shit-filled diaper. I don't have to worry about my daughter having a teen pregnancy. I don't have to worry that my son grows up to be a criminal or a drug addict. I don't get sick every other week because kids are nasty and bring home a cold or flu continuously. I don't have stupid toys and shit scattered all over the house. I never lost sleep because of a crying kid.

I don't regret a thing. Where's the downside of that?

I think the point is there are always downsides to every decision to make in life, so the question is how to evaluate them clearly and chose the best possible path. Simply acknowledging an advantage you might be giving up doesn't mean anything about what decision you should make in your life.

So I think asking the question on a forum like this is likely to result in some interesting answers that you wouldn't hear on some feminized mainstream site.

Post: #37

There is a lot of fear surrounding this question.

As if you are going to die alone without anyone there, which, for someone that hasnt had any children or have any solid friends/family, that could very well be likely.

But is that the worst thing that can ever happen to you in life?

You have to reframe the question; Are the downsides of not getting married, worse than the downsides of getting divorced?

If your odds are 50% to stay married, you have to factor that in. Without thinking this through, your running into blindly into a burning building.
Choosing the right partner, and doing your best to maintain it, are the key factors in success.

Divorce causes utter ruin in most men. It destroys their lives. Countless suicides, bankruptcies, ruined finances, health, relationships, careers, and on and on. Robin Williams, Chris Cornell, etc, and many others suffer the fate of utter devastation to their lives due to divorce.

On the flip side; the greatest increase in my annual income happened when I was married. Did the ring help, and all that comes with it(thank you Mr Baldwin)? It probably had something to do with that.

Living alone, being alone? I think its more about how you choose, and who you choose, which will determine your happiness. If you're a lonely person, I am sure that can hurt badly. But what about the people who are content? What about the people who don't suffer fools lightly, and are ok on their own? Or people who tried pair bonding and no longer do it. Do these people yearn for something more. I am willing to say most, if not all men in this position, are totally happy alone. Younger men have a hard time grasping this concept. But I am sure anyone over 35 can relate.

At the end of the day, this is all about the legacy you want to leave on this Earth. If you want to have children. While its nice to be with a hot woman, to go through life with, you have to choose wisely.

Post: #38

Quote:Does your wife know that you are gaming on the side ( as you commented in your other posts) ? Does she know you are hitting up other women and cheating on her?

No.

To answer op's question you really have to be in a happy marriage at some point in your life. I won't call anyone out but its really clear of the posters who never been in a happy marriage. Or never married period. Not a LTR but a happy marriage, theres a diffrence.

Post: #39

(01-06-2018 01:24 PM)S3K2 Wrote:  

Quote:Does your wife know that you are gaming on the side ( as you commented in your other posts) ? Does she know you are hitting up other women and cheating on her?

No.

To answer op's question you really have to be in a happy marriage at some point in your life. I won't call anyone out but its really clear of the posters who never been in a happy marriage. Or never married period. Not a LTR but a happy marriage, theres a diffrence.

Man, why are you cheating on your wife if she is submissive, cooks and cleans for you? Any particular reasons? You said that if you find a quality woman, it is totally worth it.

Is it because she married you for your money?

Post: #40

(01-07-2018 02:35 PM)Casanova1004 Wrote:  Man, why are you cheating on your wife if she is submissive, cooks and cleans for you? Any particular reasons? You said that if you find a quality woman, it is totally worth it.
Is it because she married you for your money?

I can't speak for S3K2, but I know for me the answer to this is that it has nothing to do with my wife. There is just something about me that requires it. Maybe I'm broken.

Post: #41

(01-05-2018 04:01 PM)bgbusiness Wrote:  

(01-05-2018 02:11 PM)TheGoldenJew Wrote:  This should help.

Also when I see someone with a ring, I am thinking he is a cuck most of the time especially if he is young.

What's up with that?

Post: #42

I have been married once, and in LTR with several hot girls in my life. So, what can I say?
It depends on your personality.
I like to spin plates and live a players lifestyle more, than LTR and marriage. But I like it, let's say - 25% more. But definitely - I like it more. So- it's a matter of choice.
If you have a young, hot girl, who you really like - and she is loyal and wants LTR- try it! Don't be a cuck, watch the red flags. And it is a thing that is worth to try on this planet. Then you will see - is it for you or not.
I have a friend - he is relationship guy. He was married for more than 15 years, and he is in LTRs all the time. He don't like nightclubs and so. He want just one women in his life. I am different.

Post: #43

(01-07-2018 04:03 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 02:35 PM)Casanova1004 Wrote:  Man, why are you cheating on your wife if she is submissive, cooks and cleans for you? Any particular reasons? You said that if you find a quality woman, it is totally worth it.
Is it because she married you for your money?

I can't speak for S3K2, but I know for me the answer to this is that it has nothing to do with my wife. There is just something about me that requires it. Maybe I'm broken.

Why are you not being a man of honour, if she respects you? You should work on yourself man.

Post: #44

(01-03-2018 11:57 PM)Irish Wrote:  This thread is of particular interest to me as at 38 I'm weighing up the pros and cons of marriage and kids more than I ever have done before. Particularly given I've got a proper awesome girl now whom I'm pretty serious with. Plus I've had a darn good innings in my pussy chasing days, so am starting to feel fairly settled and thinking a lot more of the future now.

I'm very interested to hear from any older guys who haven't been married and/or had kids who perhaps regret it (or not?). There's plenty of information out there on the risks of marriage but interested for the sake of balance to hear about the upsides also

All I would say is that having kids is TIRING. I'm a similar age to you and just had my first. I don't care what your lifestyle or health is, your mindset and stamina change when you get up towards 40.

Also you'll be OLD when your kids aren't very old.

As others have said being married with kids opens the door to a whole other set of social structures that aren't open to singles. You might argue this is worse that what the singleton has access to and maybe I wouldn't disagree, but it is true.

I've been a lot of places and maybe I'm just jaded but I'm really not bothered about travelling and sluts any more (people are basically the same). A lot just depends on your mindset.

Nothing can prepare you for a kid if you are emotionally stable. When I held my child in my arms I cried my eyes out like a big girl, I don't mind admitting. In fact the pure evil cruelty of separating fathers from their children really hits you when you have one, but that's a different debate.

Post: #45

Strom Thurmond fathered a child at 88 with a 22 year old super model. (and he once beat another senator with a cane on the steps of the White House--Bonus)

Post: #46

(01-05-2018 02:14 PM)Pancho Wrote:  You need a life partner. You don't want to be alone when.youre 60 or 70. We can't all be Playboy pussy chasers forever.

Speak for yourself.

Post: #47

Quote: Man, why are you cheating on your wife if she is submissive, cooks and cleans for you? Any particular reasons? You said that if you find a quality woman, it is totally worth it.

Is it because she married you for your money?

People should understand that at no point in history (pre-history to as late as the 1800’s) was men ever deemed to have 1 partner, i.e. be monogamous.

-Men were always expected to have concubines, few wives and be Promiscuous. Men are promiscuous creatures by nature.

-Trying to force a guy to be Monogamous (having 1 woman) is essentially forcing him to go against his nature and what he’s always innately known as a man [to be promiscuous].

-Being faithful is NOT normal for a men. Yes: it can be done, and is done [men are typically far more faithful than women]. However, it still doesn’t negate the fact that being faithful to 1 woman is still an un-natural and foreign act.

-The very tainted Bible that everyone loves to death, it’s a haven for promiscuous men (prophets), and it advocates Polygany (having more than one wife). Should read it between the lines and see for yourself!

-The pre-history men (Neanderthal & homo-erectus), aka Caveman, they of course partook in promiscuity, sleeping with various women, etc.

-Every step along history (pre- and modern), men were known as Promiscuous. It was the norm, accepted, no big deal.

-It’s virtually IMPOSSIBLE for anyone, or any guy, to erase what is essentially in his genes, hardwired over the course of millions of years that men has existed.

-So its’ fallacious to expect men to suddenly re-wire our genetical makeup because of what “modern” society considers Wrong, Unfaithful and Cheating.

-Modern society (particularly the western world) and the feminist movement, are trying to force men into living an Un-Natural lifestyle (being faithful to 1 woman).

-So rather than screaming, “All men are dogs“. People (especially women) need to look at Infidelity on a man’s part as a biological, evolutionary and internal struggle for us men. You’re expecting us to virtually eradicate what was ingrained in us for millions of years [having more than 1 partner].

-I'm red pill

-I view myself as a king and live life accordingly

Hope that answered your question.

Post: #48

He asked why you do it. Not how you rationalize it.

Post: #49

It's fine fathering children when you're old if you have cash to hire other people to do the leg work. Most average income people need and want to put a lot of time in themselves.

Post: #50

It's 'natural' to physically attack people who annoy you. Society is set up to prevent us all from carrying out our animalistic impulses all the time.