Post: #51

(01-08-2018 12:44 PM)S3K2 Wrote:  

Quote: Man, why are you cheating on your wife if she is submissive, cooks and cleans for you? Any particular reasons? You said that if you find a quality woman, it is totally worth it.

Is it because she married you for your money?

People should understand that at no point in history (pre-history to as late as the 1800’s) was men ever deemed to have 1 partner, i.e. be monogamous.

-Men were always expected to have concubines, few wives and be Promiscuous. Men are promiscuous creatures by nature.

-Trying to force a guy to be Monogamous (having 1 woman) is essentially forcing him to go against his nature and what he’s always innately known as a man [to be promiscuous].

-Being faithful is NOT normal for a men. Yes: it can be done, and is done [men are typically far more faithful than women]. However, it still doesn’t negate the fact that being faithful to 1 woman is still an un-natural and foreign act.

-The very tainted Bible that everyone loves to death, it’s a haven for promiscuous men (prophets), and it advocates Polygany (having more than one wife). Should read it between the lines and see for yourself!

-The pre-history men (Neanderthal & homo-erectus), aka Caveman, they of course partook in promiscuity, sleeping with various women, etc.

-Every step along history (pre- and modern), men were known as Promiscuous. It was the norm, accepted, no big deal.

-It’s virtually IMPOSSIBLE for anyone, or any guy, to erase what is essentially in his genes, hardwired over the course of millions of years that men has existed.

-So its’ fallacious to expect men to suddenly re-wire our genetical makeup because of what “modern” society considers Wrong, Unfaithful and Cheating.

-Modern society (particularly the western world) and the feminist movement, are trying to force men into living an Un-Natural lifestyle (being faithful to 1 woman).

-So rather than screaming, “All men are dogs“. People (especially women) need to look at Infidelity on a man’s part as a biological, evolutionary and internal struggle for us men. You’re expecting us to virtually eradicate what was ingrained in us for millions of years [having more than 1 partner].

-I'm red pill

-I view myself as a king and live life accordingly

Hope that answered your question.

THEN you should have not gotten married, simple as that.

Or else, you could have chosen a woman who does not mind you fucking other women.

OR, You could have spent the rest of your life just GAMING.

You cannot get the best of both worlds. Sorry man, but you do not deserve your wife.

I'm red pill as fuck but you disgust me. You're no honorable man.

Now, where's my cigar.

Post: #52

@S3K2.....I agree on the male evolutionary need to "spread the seed".....but that is to build a bigger group of females (harem) to fuck which (I guess) the male homo erectus could actually protect and support (based on resources)...and the big one being he was very loyal too the female in his group

Males hung out in tribes. There were young rogues (Beta orbiters) that wanted to kill the Alpha and fuck the odd stray female (who put herself out there)

Women today love the....tall strong man ...the one that is loyal...the one that can support ...and offer security.....but as all men know only for a certain amount of time.

The problem for the Alpha male....who had to fight others males to retain his status among the females (who didn't care much who is the king).....is the females themselves looking for genetic diversity.

Evolutionist have tried to figure out why (mostly males) have this trait of getting jealous (murderous in some cases) and suspicious of women(s) loyalty...in a perfect harem there should be zero need for jealousy. It was found the women in the harems were sneaking off to get different sperm.

Today we have simplified things...one man and woman pair bond...produce 2.5 kids end of story.

But old (evolutionary) habits die hard.....there's a saying in some divorces......the marriage went downhill and ended when the woman had her last desired child. (I'll add ..with that Alpha male). The other divorce excuses (for women) ..she lost interest sexually.....the (she) relationship became stale......the (she) was bored. Lot's of women remarry and have more kids with other Alphas (mixed marriages)...and guys spread the seed also.

There is no downside to not ever marrying..... marriage is a religious thing to stop savages screwing....pair bonding was supposed to be fuck like crazy..don't inbreed and do it fast before a lion ate you or before you died (39 was old age many years ago)

I think male loyalty is a 2 part item.......young (ego driven) males to prove/make a harem (to be loyal too...say at 40 women).......and the older (statesman) male willing to be loyal to one female....meaning sowed his oats. (which females are naturally drawn to)

Going one step further to today.....electronic media has never before offered up so many ALPHA males to females who as we know can't handle all the choice...don't know what to decide...don't even know what they want anymore. Which I assume is proof positive males may have more of an interest in "spreading the seed" making little people like himself. Women would prefer to do offspring on there own clock (ALPHA male and BETA male merge into one and none really matter.... for evolutionary success)...if woman have off spring at all

Thoughts

Post: #53

Quote: Casanova1004
THEN you should have not gotten married, simple as that.

Or else, you could have chosen a woman who does not mind you fucking other women.

OR, You could have spent the rest of your life just GAMING.

You cannot get the best of both worlds. Sorry man, but you do not deserve your wife.

I'm red pill as fuck but you disgust me. You're no honorable man.

Now, where's my cigar.

You seem beta as fuck bro. Whos not saying my wife isn't doing the same shit behind my back? Do I think she is, no but if your alpha you know how there hampsters work. Every mans going to get tired of fucking the same chick, UNLESS he's fucking multiple chicks. This is why I fuck my wife like shes the last female on earth, everytime. Once i had kids my priorities shifted from managing my harem to focusing on my children. Hence, one of the reasons i got married. I was a single father who had custody of my kids.

So far, I seem to be doing just fine getting the best of both worlds. Shit, ed stark from game of thrones was an honerable man and even he cheated on his wife. If my posts disgusts you than please quit reading and responding to them.

Quote: Incubus:
@S3K2.....I agree on the male evolutionary need to "spread the seed".....but that is to build a bigger group of females (harem) to fuck which (I guess) the male homo erectus could actually protect and support (based on resources)...and the big one being he was very loyal too the female in his group

Males hung out in tribes. There were young rogues (Beta orbiters) that wanted to kill the Alpha and fuck the odd stray female (who put herself out there)

Women today love the....tall strong man ...the one that is loyal...the one that can support ...and offer security.....but as all men know only for a certain amount of time.

The problem for the Alpha male....who had to fight others males to retain his status among the females (who didn't care much who is the king).....is the females themselves looking for genetic diversity.

Evolutionist have tried to figure out why (mostly males) have this trait of getting jealous (murderous in some cases) and suspicious of women(s) loyalty...in a perfect harem there should be zero need for jealousy. It was found the women in the harems were sneaking off to get different sperm.

Today we have simplified things...one man and woman pair bond...produce 2.5 kids end of story.

But old (evolutionary) habits die hard.....there's a saying in some divorces......the marriage went downhill and ended when the woman had her last desired child. (I'll add ..with that Alpha male). The other divorce excuses (for women) ..she lost interest sexually.....the (she) relationship became stale......the (she) was bored. Lot's of women remarry and have more kids with other Alphas (mixed marriages)...and guys spread the seed also.

There is no downside to not ever marrying..... marriage is a religious thing to stop savages screwing....pair bonding was supposed to be fuck like crazy..don't inbreed and do it fast before a lion ate you or before you died (39 was old age many years ago)

I think male loyalty is a 2 part item.......young (ego driven) males to prove/make a harem (to be loyal too...say at 40 women).......and the older (statesman) male willing to be loyal to one female....meaning sowed his oats. (which females are naturally drawn to)

Going one step further to today.....electronic media has never before offered up so many ALPHA males to females who as we know can't handle all the choice...don't know what to decide...don't even know what they want anymore. Which I assume is proof positive males may have more of an interest in "spreading the seed" making little people like himself. Women would prefer to do offspring on there own clock (ALPHA male and BETA male merge into one and none really matter.... for evolutionary success)...if woman have off spring at all

Thoughts

I support my wife finacially, sexually, emotionally etc..
I support my harem with my dick, thats it. We are not the only sex (males) that get jealous. Females do too, ever heard of dread game?

Yes woman will leave you on all kind of excuses, even after 32 years of marriage. She wanted to find her way with the cable guy. This is especially true for the honest beta. We only live once so why not live life like a fucking king?

I disagree about no downside of getting married. I already explained it in a previous post in this thread. You really have to get married to a quality girl to understand what this downside I speak of is. Back then yes thats what pair bonding was but were in 2018 and I dont have to worry about getting devoured by a lion or pass away of menningitis at 39.

These males being served up to females (especially online) are not alpha males, there beta males. You can see it in there game, trying to wine and dine them at the bar or the infamous "can I take you out sometime to dinner and the movies" online game. Not saying 100% of these males are beta but around 95% are. Shit I have some online profiles I use when a chick falls out of the harem and I need a replacement.

Post: #54

Even married alphas become beta, atleast to their wives.

You find your wife less attractive as time goes on. It would be foolish to think she finds you as appealing as you were at first.

No amount of game can fix this. Mitigate it to an extent? Perhaps. But eventually everything loses its shine.

The desire to cheat is inevitable.

Post: #55

(01-03-2018 07:35 PM)xxx Wrote:  I think there is almost a biological obligation to find a life partner and have children; otherwise, like childless women, we risk damaging our mental health. I feel there are risks in not getting married that may be equal to those of getting married.

Agreed. Although some men will never marry. I think there will always be the urge to marry at some point in life. I am not talking about the legal commitment but the need to build a strong bond with someone. Also it is an undeniable fact that a woman who has no children at all will eventually self-destruct. That is how evolution works in some sort of way. Although it is important to remember that mother nature actually only takes into account 1 thing: reproduction. Hypergamy is therefore very common, and monogamy is something that we have taught ourselves.

Time has disproved that marriage is a golden ticket to happiness. This code has only been cracked recently. True happiness can only be achieved by making your own life successful. The right woman will come on your path naturally this way. And is she there to stay? A successful marriage depends on two factors: a sprinkle of luck, and hard work.

Post: #56

Beta is running around cheating on your wife when you should just dump her so that you don't have to sneak around.

Post: #57

(01-08-2018 12:44 PM)S3K2 Wrote:  People should understand that at no point in history (pre-history to as late as the 1800’s) was men ever deemed to have 1 partner, i.e. be monogamous.

Bullshit. Everything happened. Non-monogamous AND monogamous. Just like now.

Post: #58

(01-08-2018 06:56 PM)Casanova1004 Wrote:  THEN you should have not gotten married, simple as that.

Or else, you could have chosen a woman who does not mind you fucking other women.

OR, You could have spent the rest of your life just GAMING.

You cannot get the best of both worlds. Sorry man, but you do not deserve your wife.

I'm red pill as fuck but you disgust me. You're no honorable man.

Now, where's my cigar.

WTF? I'm not even that guy... but GTFO with that shit. He can do as he pleases.

Post: #59

(01-09-2018 08:10 AM)S3K2 Wrote:  

Quote: Casanova1004
THEN you should have not gotten married, simple as that.

Or else, you could have chosen a woman who does not mind you fucking other women.

OR, You could have spent the rest of your life just GAMING.

You cannot get the best of both worlds. Sorry man, but you do not deserve your wife.

I'm red pill as fuck but you disgust me. You're no honorable man.

Now, where's my cigar.

You seem beta as fuck bro. Whos not saying my wife isn't doing the same shit behind my back? Do I think she is, no but if your alpha you know how there hampsters work. Every mans going to get tired of fucking the same chick, UNLESS he's fucking multiple chicks.

If my posts disgusts you than please quit reading and responding to them.

In other words, you are operating with "guilty until proven innocent" mentality?
Lol.

Being alpha is about having the right mindset.
It is the ability to lead when necessary, assertive when necessary, ambitious and dominant.

Alpha doesn't mean you go cheat and do whatever the fuck you want.
There is a difference between a bully just picking up a stupid fight just because he "feels" like it and has nothing to lose and an alpha guy walking away from the situation trying to de-escalate because he has a lot intangible assets that he can lose such as reputation and status.

Cheating is not alpha by all means. That's actually pretty beta.
That's operating in a "scarcity mindset" where you are scared to lose her.
You are afraid that you won't be able to find a girl in that caliber who likes you back, but still wanting to do your "fun" on the side.

What nationality are you?
Where do you live?
How old are you?

Post: #60

The biggest down side of not getting married is that by the 30s you start to get lonely. You friends are marrying or in a serious relationship, moving to other countries or cities or financially struggling. You will have less and less company to do anything, until you have no company at all.

I don't see any down side in getting married if your expectation is that your wife eventually will become a big problem and leave or you will leave yourself. Women want something out of you, it may not be anything material. Once you can't provide anymore or she is already satisfied the relationship is over. And you will be cheated before that. Women are not friends or loyal beings.

Post: #61

It’s actually easier to bang around and have multiple gfs when you are married. This is because you can always tell them that you are « spending time with family » and they will leave you alone while you bang others.

Post: #62

I can think of many downsides:

1. Less material wealth
If your wife works then you split the costs = massive savings on mortgage/rent
If your wife doesn't work but takes care of the house you have more time to focus on your job/business, you are more productive which would bring in more money
If you're married you will spend less money on going out

2. Pump and dump does not equal good sex
When you're young and horny a wife can save you a lot of headache (and blue balls)

3. The more you wait, the older you'll be when your kids grow up

4. Harder to find a partner later on
As you get older your standards go up

I believe the best approach is to find a high school sweetheart and if the relationship lasts through university then get married right away so you can pop a couple children by the age of 25.

Of course this requires a lot of insight and maturity at a very young age, combined with an environment that promotes family values. It's up to your parents and your community to put you on the right path.

Post: #63

I am married, have been for 3 years, have been with my wife for over 10 years.

I read a post on here that really hit the nail on the head for me. The bigger problem than the “fear of dying alone” is the problem that most men as they enter their 30s deal increasingly poorly with “living alone.” You ever see a single man in his late 30s without enough game to be an elite player and no family, who held out too long? It’s a sad sight. The reality is most men should and will get married and have kids. Now I do believe there is about 5-7% of the male population who are just natural and will not ever need to be married. I know a couple of them and this forum probably has a higher ratio of them on here than the general population. But by and large most men need a life partner and family/warm presence to come home to as they age. Marriage is a part of that. “Co-habitation” with no marriage doesn’t provide the same kind of concrete foundation for raising kids. Most men will feel the urge by their late 20s and certainly by their mid 30s. If you find the right partner who shares your values, knows her role and does not nag.... it’s hard to describe. It’s not just a sexual connection but it is a partner that is there for you on this investment we call life.

Now I also believe it is healthy for men to fuck fresh pussy on the side. I’ve been doing it forever, and I think it’s natural. You cannot engage in affairs with women of equal value as your wife but I think it is healthy to keep game strong and fuck a new women, there is nothing like that. This isn’t something you engage in frequently, but occasionally life will present you with opportunities. It cannot interfer in your life at home but if you’re smart it won’t ever.

Post: #64

Quote:I am married, have been for 3 years, have been with my wife for over 10 years.

I read a post on here that really hit the nail on the head for me. The bigger problem than the “fear of dying alone” is the problem that most men as they enter their 30s deal increasingly poorly with “living alone.” You ever see a single man in his late 30s without enough game to be an elite player and no family, who held out too long? It’s a sad sight. The reality is most men should and will get married and have kids. Now I do believe there is about 5-7% of the male population who are just natural and will not ever need to be married. I know a couple of them and this forum probably has a higher ratio of them on here than the general population. But by and large most men need a life partner and family/warm presence to come home to as they age. Marriage is a part of that. “Co-habitation” with no marriage doesn’t provide the same kind of concrete foundation for raising kids. Most men will feel the urge by their late 20s and certainly by their mid 30s. If you find the right partner who shares your values, knows her role and does not nag.... it’s hard to describe. It’s not just a sexual connection but it is a partner that is there for you on this investment we call life.

Now I also believe it is healthy for men to fuck fresh pussy on the side. I’ve been doing it forever, and I think it’s natural. You cannot engage in affairs with women of equal value as your wife but I think it is healthy to keep game strong and fuck a new women, there is nothing like that. This isn’t something you engage in frequently, but occasionally life will present you with opportunities. It cannot interfer in your life at home but if you’re smart it won’t ever.

Well said, well said.
Now time to fend off the white knights on this board white knighting your wife, as they to me lmao.

Post: #65

The only reason to get married is to have kids

If you don't want kids stay the fuck away from that shit.

Post: #66

H1N1's post earlier in the thread is excellent. I agree with the general thread sentiment that a good marriage is going to be a positive factor in 90%+ of men's lives. For health reasons, for emotional support, for companionship in later years, for the social networks it opens, and for childbearing/raising and many more reasons. But the problem is so many men enter into bad marriages, with terrible women. A bad marriage, and divorce rape, is definitely worse than staying unmarried.

If more men waited longer to get married, had more experience dating various women before they got married, and/or were more selective with who they married, it would really help reduce the divorce rate and ensure more marriages were good marriages. But that would probably require a serious uptake in average 'game' levels for the male population of the Western World. I'd love to see the divorce rates stats for say long-term members of this forum in 20 years time vs the average population - I would expect the members here to have had on average far more successful, good, worthwhile, marriages as a result of their game awareness.

As a sidebar I can't believe there are multiple people posting in this thread (bgbusiness, BassPlayaYo, Casanova1004 etc) giving out to S3K2 for being in a happy, healthy marriage but spinning plates on the side. Thats some blue pill crap right there. You guys do realize you're on a forum literally dedicated to questioning orthodox societal expectations and experiencing the joys of gaming women right? Do you also unquestioningly disapprove of, shock horror, sex before marriage because you were taught that its 'morally wrong' in school?

Every single man I've ever known well whos successful with women has ended up cheating on their long term girlfriend / wife at some stage. And theres a reason so many celebrities, sports stars, wealthy men, politicians etc - ie men who have women coming on to them regularly - do it. It doesn't matter how wonderful your wife is, or how much you love them, or how good the sex life is. Its just never the same sex in a 5+ year relationship as it is with a new flame. If you're going out and doing it weekly obviously there may be serious relationship problems in your marriage. But as something that happens a few times a year, acknowledging that its likely to happen, and just ensuring you're smart about it (ie only having one night stands, only in foreign cities while on work trips, whatever works best for you), is the best approach. Its completely possible to be in a healthy, happy relationship while banging a few girls a year on the side. They're not mutually exclusive as a man, and anyone who tells you otherwise has likely never tried it. Its also something that will likely help increase how much you value your wife as a life partner, as spending time around hot 21 year old girls while sexually satisfying is often emotionally and intellectually horrendous.

The only men I ever hear condemning other men cheating are either 1) those who are married but never have the opportunity to play away from home - its easy for them to judge when they never have the option to indulge in it themselves. "Don't eat from the desert buffet!" they scream from their salad bar. Or 2) men who've never been in a serious long term relationship.

bgbusiness, BassPlayaYo, Casanova1004 - have you ever been married? Have you ever dated someone for 5+ years?

Post: #67

Why not just have a fake wedding (say I do then go home, don't sign anything), get her a ring and call her your wife.

Also I don't understand why being married means you have to act a certain way. Why can't you be married (or fake married, see above) and just continue doing whatever you were doing before, instead of behaving in the typical married way? As long as you're paying the bills and spending a reasonable amount of time with your wife and kids, you should do what you like.

Post: #68

Because if every man did that then every thing would descend into chaos, and we would end up back in the Stone ages. Or at least that's what I heard. I'm sure lots of men do this. It just depends on how muh the girl fears societal judgement/acceptance. Vin diesel has three kids with a chick and they aren't married. Other women may require a religious ceremony and ring but no document.

Post: #69

(01-24-2018 05:59 AM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  Why not just have a fake wedding (say I do then go home, don't sign anything), get her a ring and call her your wife.

Lots of places in the world (particularly in the West) these days it doesn't matter if you're actually married or not. Once you're living with a girl for a number of years, regardless of any marriage ceremony/documents or lack thereof, she counts as your common law spouse to the legal system. Which gives her rights to half your property, and potential alimony payments for the rest of her life. Its pretty crazy.

It just means it really, really pays these days to be extremely selective when settling down long-term I guess.

Post: #70

(01-24-2018 05:42 PM)zatara Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 05:59 AM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  Why not just have a fake wedding (say I do then go home, don't sign anything), get her a ring and call her your wife.

Lots of places in the world (particularly in the West) these days it doesn't matter if you're actually married or not. Once you're living with a girl for a number of years, regardless of any marriage ceremony/documents or lack thereof, she counts as your common law spouse to the legal system. Which gives her rights to half your property, and potential alimony payments for the rest of her life. Its pretty crazy.

It just means it really, really pays these days to be extremely selective when settling down long-term I guess.

True. But you can always live separately.