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RE: A Balanced Guide to Instagram Game
(12-13-2018 02:40 PM)corsega Wrote:  During daygame, you ask the girl out in your second sentence?

No but I am usually quite forward and sexual straight away. Yesterday a girl followed me back and the convo went like this:

Me: "Hello"
She: "Hey"
Me: "I like that high estrogen upper lip you have I bet you squirt waterfalls"
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RE: A Balanced Guide to Instagram Game
(12-07-2018 03:17 AM)DigitalNomad Wrote:  
(12-06-2018 02:04 PM)jacknap Wrote:  should you only slide in dm's if you get a follow back? Feel like this is most logical step. It's almost like you're going to get a makeout before you fuck. Obviously exceptions but generally the way things go.
Depends on how many followers the girl has. If she has over 1-2k, she probably gets a ton of messages and might not see it. If she only has a few a few hundred followers she'll see it for sure.. IG sends a notification saying "blah blah would like to send you a message."

On a somewhat related note, Tinder removed the ability to visit a girl's IG from the app. I think that will help, as a lot of DMs girls received were guys creeping from Tinder.. see original post for proof.

I think it works both ways.
I matched with this weaboo on Bumble.
So much chit chat for 2-3 weeks even though I hinted on meeting up early in the first week.

She eventually complains I got too many girls following me on Instagram.
I held my frame and replied no I'm not unfollowing them.
She decided not to meet despite me insisting many times and eventually unmatched.

Yeah alright whatever. That was a first.

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(12-14-2018 02:27 AM)Jozi Wrote:  
(12-13-2018 02:40 PM)corsega Wrote:  During daygame, you ask the girl out in your second sentence?

No but I am usually quite forward and sexual straight away. Yesterday a girl followed me back and the convo went like this:

Me: "Hello"
She: "Hey"
Me: "I like that high estrogen upper lip you have I bet you squirt waterfalls"
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12-14-2018 06:08 AM
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RE: A Balanced Guide to Instagram Game
Guys with 20-30k followers or more, have you noticed an increase in response rate and follow back from attractive girls compared to when you were at say, 5k? Are you getting called out a lot for looking like you have a fake following?
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RE: A Balanced Guide to Instagram Game
(12-14-2018 02:27 AM)Jozi Wrote:  No but I am usually quite forward and sexual straight away. Yesterday a girl followed me back and the convo went like this:

Me: "Hello"
She: "Hey"
Me: "I like that high estrogen upper lip you have I bet you squirt waterfalls"
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Please, don't ever say that again. That is the type of shit that gives direct "sliding in the DM" game a bad rep and ruins it for the rest of us.
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RE: A Balanced Guide to Instagram Game
RSD dropped a video going in depth on this instagram game thing. I may have to seriously consider applying myself into social media, because the facts are facts; the MAJORITY of young women are on their phones constantly and instagram is a big reason for that. It still makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit when I think about it, but the times they are a changing.

Relevant video: RSD Guide to Social Media Game
12-14-2018 03:11 PM
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RE: A Balanced Guide to Instagram Game
(12-14-2018 03:11 PM)Monkey Business Wrote:  RSD dropped a video going in depth on this instagram game thing. I may have to seriously consider applying myself into social media, because the facts are facts; the MAJORITY of young women are on their phones constantly and instagram is a big reason for that. It still makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit when I think about it, but the times they are a changing.

Relevant video: RSD Guide to Social Media Game

Yes, and in typical RSD fashion it's the most exaggerated, dreamselling bullshit I've seen on "Instagram Game". It goes against the balanced approach I preach in this thread.

Don't be sucked in by their marketing.

Unless you are ACTUALLY high value, this shit doesn't work like they claim it will.

(You know why it works for the RSD guys? Because they have tens of thousands of completely legit followers, and actual status!)

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RE: A Balanced Guide to Instagram Game
(12-14-2018 03:11 PM)Monkey Business Wrote:  RSD dropped a video going in depth on this instagram game thing. I may have to seriously consider applying myself into social media, because the facts are facts; the MAJORITY of young women are on their phones constantly and instagram is a big reason for that. It still makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit when I think about it, but the times they are a changing.

Relevant video: RSD Guide to Social Media Game

Care to summarize the main points? (If you watched it all). It's a 2 hour video.
12-14-2018 03:38 PM
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I started using IG about 10 months and in the last month or so been a regular user.

What is with even conservative girls posting pics of themselves in bikinis, bras and panties? This is both U.S. and international

It seems even "good girls" need a dopamine hit for 'likes' and will attention whore as much as they possibly can...*sigh*
12-17-2018 02:35 PM
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Check out the Sam Vaknin interview to see why

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(12-17-2018 02:35 PM)Day Game Bang Wrote:  I started using IG about 10 months and in the last month or so been a regular user.

What is with even conservative girls posting pics of themselves in bikinis, bras and panties? This is both U.S. and international

It seems even "good girls" need a dopamine hit for 'likes' and will attention whore as much as they possibly can...*sigh*

Human beings do things that give them positive stimulus.

Nothing about this is new.

I suggest reading up on basic evolutionary psychology.

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Lol I wrote that out of frustration more than anything else. My follow back rate (my account is on private) on IG is awful...3/100

Can girls see your DM if your following them, but they are not following you back?
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RE: A Balanced Guide to Instagram Game
(12-17-2018 08:05 PM)Day Game Bang Wrote:  Lol I wrote that out of frustration more than anything else. My follow back rate (my account is on private) on IG is awful...3/100

Can girls see your DM if your following them, but they are not following you back?
If only I hadn’t answered basically that same question a week ago. If you really want to work on IG game, maybe read the thread? Why is your IG private? Do you really expect some random girls are going to go out of their way to follow you when they have no idea of your lifestyle or looks? And why would they reply to the dm of a guy they don’t know and can’t see? Do you right swipe blank profiles on tinder? I’m guessing not.

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(12-13-2018 02:18 AM)corsega Wrote:  Direct doesn't work on Instagram. You have to make the interactions even longer than Tinder.

Remember, you're messaging a total stranger. Treat it like a daygame interaction, but online.
This has not been my experience. I have a very consistent message system that gets me the girls number within 24 words in total across 4 messages. well over 100+ lays from insta and facebook from this without changing a word. direct but not sexual, short as possible, no capitals, no punctuation. as little effort as possible to convey interest and set up logistics. I avoid all questions and threads initiated by the girl and always lead back to the meet. if they keep asking me questions I tell them 'I only want to get to know people face to face. give me your number'. once on whatsapp I go straight to asking her what days she is available. does not work on girls with 20k+ followers, im guessing they never see my message

Some things I noticed you can train the integrated ai on these sites to show you only hot girls from your city. sucks if your traveling though as you have to be consistent for several weeks with what type of people you engage with

Ig biggest drawback imo is the very shitty messaging system. no search function.. if it used whatsapp system it would be soo much easier to crush it. cant even message from a computer>??

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12-18-2018 04:03 AM
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(12-14-2018 03:38 PM)Jozi Wrote:  Care to summarize the main points? (If you watched it all). It's a 2 hour video.

main idea is to post videos of all your dates for social proof and build familiarity and comfort. the girl gets to see what going out with you is like and frames you as a local celebrity they want to social network with
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(09-12-2018 07:04 PM)getdownonit Wrote:  You can use the little bookmark flag icon under her pic to put girls into groups, that’s the closest way I’ve found to keep them organized.

can some one explain how to do this please
12-18-2018 04:15 AM
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(12-18-2018 12:52 AM)DigitalNomad Wrote:  
(12-17-2018 08:05 PM)Day Game Bang Wrote:  Lol I wrote that out of frustration more than anything else. My follow back rate (my account is on private) on IG is awful...3/100

Can girls see your DM if your following them, but they are not following you back?
If only I hadn’t answered basically that same question a week ago. If you really want to work on IG game, maybe read the thread? Why is your IG private? Do you really expect some random girls are going to go out of their way to follow you when they have no idea of your lifestyle or looks? And why would they reply to the dm of a guy they don’t know and can’t see? Do you right swipe blank profiles on tinder? I’m guessing not.

Damn. That is a harsh reply. Sorry I do not have time to look thru 12 pages. Look at my username, online/social media game is not my thing.

I put my IG profile on private to be mysterious. I will no longer keep it on private and see what type of response I get.
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(12-18-2018 04:09 AM)Prince Charming Wrote:  
(12-14-2018 03:38 PM)Jozi Wrote:  Care to summarize the main points? (If you watched it all). It's a 2 hour video.

main idea is to post videos of all your dates for social proof and build familiarity and comfort. the girl gets to see what going out with you is like and frames you as a local celebrity they want to social network with

I watched it. Main points:

- Close with IG instead of numbers

- When closing, take her phone and follow yourself, and change some settings such as so that she receives notifications related to yourself (with permission)

- Tag the girl in your stories / posts instead of sending her a DM as the latter is too common and will often be ignored

- Make your stories fun and include various women in them

- Monitor who's viewing your stories and make them your priority leads
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(12-17-2018 08:05 PM)Day Game Bang Wrote:  Lol I wrote that out of frustration more than anything else. My follow back rate (my account is on private) on IG is awful...3/100

Can girls see your DM if your following them, but they are not following you back?

You have got to unfollow all the people who aren't following you save a few 10/10 hotties. if you follow massive amounts of women and none follow you back, you 100% look like a creep. I know this and I don't even use IG
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(12-18-2018 04:15 AM)Prince Charming Wrote:  
(09-12-2018 07:04 PM)getdownonit Wrote:  You can use the little bookmark flag icon under her pic to put girls into groups, that’s the closest way I’ve found to keep them organized.

can some one explain how to do this please
Here you go:
Click on this button:
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Click save to collection:
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Either add them to an existing folder, or create a new folder with the + button
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(12-18-2018 12:07 PM)Kieran Wrote:  I watched it. Main points:

- Close with IG instead of numbers

- When closing, take her phone and follow yourself, and change some settings such as so that she receives notifications related to yourself (with permission)

- Tag the girl in your stories / posts instead of sending her a DM as the latter is too common and will often be ignored

- Make your stories fun and include various women in them

- Monitor who's viewing your stories and make them your priority leads
Good take aways, that about sums up what works for me.

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Have you guys noticed that if your story gets early engagement (in the form of reactions or messages), Instagram will show it to more people?

I suspect this to be the case but I'm going to track some numbers to back it up.

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I came across this guy's site here and he seems to be doing quite well with Instagram:

https://goldmundunleashed.com/

I even had a chance to look through his account and the engagement rate is insane on some of these photos.

https://www.instagram.com/goldmundunleashed/

I found this pic of him here got the most likes:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjqKjk5nGFw/

It is weird because I know of some girls who fit the bill of being young, popular and good looking who don't get 800 to 900 likes on their pics.
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(12-18-2018 10:27 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  I came across this guy's site here and he seems to be doing quite well with Instagram:

https://goldmundunleashed.com/

I even had a chance to look through his account and the engagement rate is insane on some of these photos.

https://www.instagram.com/goldmundunleashed/

I found this pic of him here got the most likes:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjqKjk5nGFw/

It is weird because I know of some girls who fit the bill of being young, popular and good looking who don't get 800 to 900 likes on their pics.

Insane engagement rate? He is getting between 200 and 400 likes on his most recent photos with 9000 followers.

That is a "poor" engagement rate for Instagram standards, though it's par for the course these days with guys that have hacked their followings with automation, like I did.

Photos of me, similar to the one Goldmund posted, get 700-1000 likes, and I have 12000 followers.

Landscape/uninteresting photos for me get about 200-400 likes as well.

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Is there an ‘official’ book that describes how Instagram wants users to succeed with the app?

The search for the hack seems to be going round in circles and it seems to result in shadowbanning and the regular need to prune ghost followers.
12-19-2018 12:46 AM
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(12-19-2018 12:46 AM)N°6 Wrote:  Is there an ‘official’ book that describes how Instagram wants users to succeed with the app?

The search for the hack seems to be going round in circles and it seems to result in shadowbanning and the regular need to prune ghost followers.

There will never be such a resource, as it would be viciously exploited by those who would profit off of it.

Just like how Tinder or Google don't release their algorithms, Instagram will never release theirs.

The Red Queen's race is a facet of all adaptive systems.

They change the algorithm. We exploit it. They change it again, we exploit it again.

So on, so forth.

It makes Instagram "Game" rather tiring, actually. You're constantly having to keep up with the latest trends. First it was about followers, now it's about engagement.

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A girl I could close in 20-30 minutes thru a day game approach won't follow me back or reply to my DMs.

IG is taxing, I respect guys who are actually pulling girls off of it. I simply do not have the time and energy being a mid-30's guy.

I'm going to focus on girls with less than 1,000 followers, preferably less than 500. I see a cutie with 75 followers but she did not follow me back.

How do I grab their attention? Liking/commenting on their pics? Since they do not reply to my DMs. I am referring to girls with less than 1,000 followers and are not following me back
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