Post: #201

(11-09-2018 02:09 AM)Salesian Wrote:  Also, btw, I noticed two IOI's today. I got an IOI from a girl when I walked into a grocery store, then later got one from another girl when I was headed to the automatic checkout counter. The same girl then gave a proximity IOI when she stood directly in my field of vision while I was checking out my groceries.

I noticed these IOI's way more clearly than when I was e-flirting with girls thousands of miles away via IG. It could be that reliance on e-dating things like Tinder IG etc fuck up instinctual social acuity and dudes miss signals. Jus t a thought.

Good point, I think both males and females care less and their daily radar is down, it’s like walking with shoes having high soles, your feet sensors get less active.

Post: #202

Question. I have a “girlfriend” who comes and sees me every couple of months from abroad. I try and game other girls when she’s not around and a lot of it is from instagram game. Is it wise to post pictures of me and her on my Instagram? I have one but it doesn’t show her face so it’s quite mysterious.

In general what is the rule about showing girls in your photos? I know that in Latin America every guy has pictures with girls and it can help but in Europe they might think you’re a player.

Post: #203

(11-09-2018 06:19 AM)Mikestar Wrote:  Question. I have a “girlfriend” who comes and sees me every couple of months from abroad. I try and game other girls when she’s not around and a lot of it is from instagram game. Is it wise to post pictures of me and her on my Instagram? I have one but it doesn’t show her face so it’s quite mysterious.

In general what is the rule about showing girls in your photos? I know that in Latin America every guy has pictures with girls and it can help but in Europe they might think you’re a player.

I post photos of other girls on my IG but it's important to not go overboard. It's good pre-selection, and if a girl likes you enough it won't put her off. It might make her mad, but it won't put her off. However, if you're posting lots of pictures of the same girl then others might deduce she's your girlfriend and this could work against you if you're trying to game them.

Post: #204

Continuing on from the Tinder App thread, you guys have any feedback on my lifestyle fraud instagram?

https://imgur.com/a/aXsAh3q

I'm wondering what really good winner profiles look like? Does anyone have examples of good solid 5-10k followers instagram pages for medium status dudes?

Post: #205

(11-09-2018 09:37 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  Continuing on from the Tinder App thread, you guys have any feedback on my lifestyle fraud instagram?

https://imgur.com/a/aXsAh3q

I'm wondering what really good winner profiles look like? Does anyone have examples of good solid 5-10k followers instagram pages for medium status dudes?

I would remove the Waldo meme, it looks out of place. Are the photos spaced out, date-wise? How many likes do the photos have?

As I mentioned in the other thread, chicks will stalk your old photos. Everything has to look legit.

(11-09-2018 02:04 AM)Salesian Wrote:  When I hit ~800 on IG using FollowLiker I disabled it to test out a theory, that it was fucking up my ability to focus.

I'm a programmer so my ability to focus is my bread and butter. Beyond that I work on music, and focus is especially needed for that.

Soon as I disabled my Instagram account I began getting more work done and was better able to concentrate during the day.

This thread was useful, and IG is probably useful for game, but the cost to my productivity was too much.

Why not just block it from your phone during work hours or something like that? If you use Android, something like Tasker can probably do that.

Post: #206

I can only speak for 'murica but I posted some pics of two girls I went on dates with (and my ex)....dresses and tall af heels in both pics. When I DM'd other hoes, they would mostly say "Don't you have a gf?" "I thought you had a partner already" after I accepted their follow request. They just saw picture of me and girl, without noticing that one girl is Hispanic, one white, and the other asian.

Then the cat would get scared, so I deleted the pics.

Post: #207

^same. Even DTF chicks who I had missed connections with got bothered. Scares the cat every time.

Post: #208

(11-11-2018 03:32 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I can only speak for 'murica but I posted some pics of two girls I went on dates with (and my ex)....dresses and tall af heels in both pics. When I DM'd other hoes, they would mostly say "Don't you have a gf?" "I thought you had a partner already" after I accepted their follow request. They just saw picture of me and girl, without noticing that one girl is Hispanic, one white, and the other asian.

Then the cat would get scared, so I deleted the pics.

(11-11-2018 03:42 AM)Ten Feet Tall Right Now Wrote:  ^same. Even DTF chicks who I had missed connections with got bothered. Scares the cat every time.

I'm thinking the best way to show preselection would be to post either "ladies man" photos (you and 3-4 attractive girls) or mixed group photos, you and a couple other guys with a couple other attractive girls.

Every guy's profile I've seen where I could confidently say "this guy would get tail from IG" has had these.

Haven't tried it myself because I don't fuck with social circle or want to include them that much in my Instagram frauding. It's probably the main thing holding my Instagram results back.

Post: #209

Yeah that’s the best approach. Vinny told me personally never have just you and a girl. Always at least one other girl (besides one your fucking) for plausible deniability.

It’s suprisingly hard to get these photos right. I guess you really have to put yourself in a chicks brain. Think what would a prissy entitled attention bombarded young woman think of this photo? More specifically what one little potentially negative thing will she harp on?

I had some fun photos like that but still got dumb comments like “oh did you run train on all those chikas?” I never thought to stick a bunch of guys in there too. Like a team photo of guys and girls. Good idea.

Next time km out I’m going to do a reverse a Asian photo request. Ask a group of random people to take a souvenir photo with me (the token white guy) like we somehow know each other.

Post: #210

Are there any apps that show which followers do not comment or like your status's? One of the reasons i dont go crazy with those instagram builder companies is because it looks retarded if you have 20k followers and only 500 likes per post....

I think having 5,000-8,000 followers and receiving 1k-2k likes per post looks way better than having 105k followers and receiving 1-2 likes per post... I want to build my instagram but block all inactive follower so that i have 6-8k real followers and 1-2k real likes per post. and keep blocking followers that dont like my pics after i exceed 8k followers....

i have 7k followers right now (real, not bots but most of them dont like or comment on my posts, ) and receive 250-500 likes per post from my actual followes + an additional 600 likes that i pay $30 per post from 600 influencers of instagram.


I think blocking all inactive followers and using an app to build your instagram and only let the ones who comment or like your posts stick with you would be good... much better than having 50k followers and only 500 likes per post. just looks silly...


any apps that show your ghost followers??? that dont like any of your posts... all my followers are real but most of them dont like or comment on my pics.... looking to remove them and get new ones...

Post: #211

Damn, that's a great idea. I've been thinking about that recently as well. Many guys who followed the advice in here probably have huge follower counts and it looks really incongruent compared to how many likes they get on their photos. Especially since engagement on Instagram for random people is down across the board.

edit: Jarvee can apparently do it, but it's not free
https://www.androidtipster.com/unfollow-...instagram/

Post: #212

Completely feeling you guys on that follower and engagement rate dilemma. My issue with social media has always been that but I wonder how some of the people out there who are not celebrities are able to get to that point. I have known people who had around 1500 or so followers but get 400 to 500 likes per pic on a consistent basis, it makes me wonder what is going there.

From what I have witnessed, a couple of these people were popular in high school and college so a lot of the likes come from their teammates in sports, Greek Life and being involved in a large campus organization while having an active role there. I am starting to see that these social media accounts are a lot more genuine and these people are simply benefitting from the popularity they had in their adolescence and college years, it just carries over on to social media.

Or maybe I am fooled? Maybe these kids and people that were popular in those days are doing the same glitches on Instagram, I have not really had the chance to look through who is liking their pics as much.

Obviously a lot of us are well past those school years so we are in a different situation but I wanted to know of some IG success stories of guys you all know who managed to make it work. I mean guys who got their follower count up but also managed to have that kind of an engagement rate to where their social media accounts came off as more genuine.

What were those guys doing?

Big youtube channels maybe?

Post: #213

(11-11-2018 12:48 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  Completely feeling you guys on that follower and engagement rate dilemma. My issue with social media has always been that but I wonder how some of the people out there who are not celebrities are able to get to that point. I have known people who had around 1500 or so followers but get 400 to 500 likes per pic on a consistent basis, it makes me wonder what is going there.

From what I have witnessed, a couple of these people were popular in high school and college so a lot of the likes come from their teammates in sports, Greek Life and being involved in a large campus organization while having an active role there. I am starting to see that these social media accounts are a lot more genuine and these people are simply benefitting from the popularity they had in their adolescence and college years, it just carries over on to social media.

Yup.

Instagram "Game" is a sham, and I actually feel partially responsible for perpetrating the fact that it could actually work - though my original post tries to stay balanced and admit this.

You cannot fake it.

There are guys (naturals) out there with 700 followers that are crushing it on Instagram right now, compared to guys on this forum that are buying Followliker and trying to pad their follower counts, and trying to fake their way into having status.

It won't work.

The only way to get these hot girls is to become a "cool, attractive, insider". Your Instagram is just a lens onto your lifestyle.

No shortcuts.

I will be publishing a new blog post to clear this fact up, which I'll be posting here to make sure that guys are not misled.

Post: #214

Glad that you will be doing that post and look forward to it. When you do that post though, I'd love more suggestions about getting to that point as an older guy and how to go about building that value to where it can carry over on to Instagram.

Its not that I am as concerned of getting hot girls, its that I am more concerned about building an authentic but quality Instagram account where the engagement rate is high.

Post: #215

(11-11-2018 02:16 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  Its not that I am as concerned of getting hot girls, its that I am more concerned about building an authentic but quality Instagram account where the engagement rate is high.

Why? Why do you want to do this?

(11-11-2018 02:16 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  Glad that you will be doing that post and look forward to it. When you do that post though, I'd love more suggestions about getting to that point as an older guy and how to go about building that value to where it can carry over on to Instagram.

Functionality, this is impossible. You (and most of the members of this forum) are an outsider.

Read this blog post, and keep nothing the words "cool, attractive insider":
https://strengthbysonny.com/2018/11/06/2...bout-game/

I would recommend taking a good, hard look at yourself and try to figure out why you are not happy with you who are, and why you feel the need to change yourself in order to gain social acceptance from people you do not truly care about.

Post: #216

I have my personal reasons for it, this thread is not for that and I am not turning this thread into my soap box that devolves into arguing. All I will say is I have personal reasons for it and it is not worth taking any sort of a second look but thanks for your concern!

Post: #217

I'm building mine up for business purposes, hopefully it'll draw more "customers" in to my website. There's no way a profile with what mine has on it would ever be of interest to chicks, MAYBE a really ugly hipster girl but that seems unlikely too.

I won't post it here but you can PM me if you want to see it.

Post: #218

I've been doing some more research on what a winning instagram profile looks like and I came up with a few good accounts for inspiration:

gregogallagher, julienhimself, thecadclub, cobratate, talismantate, lunatic_living & kingketo

If you know any other accounts that portray a baller lifestyle with 10k+followers please share.

One thing I've noticed is that it's going to take at least 200+ posts to communicate a real solid lifestyle. But the stuff Christian McQueen is doing seems pretty emulatable, I can't even see for sure if any of the hot girls are with him since he's almost never in the same picture with them.

Post: #219

(11-12-2018 08:33 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  But the stuff Christian McQueen is doing seems pretty emulatable, I can't even see for sure if any of the hot girls are with him since he's almost never in the same picture with them.

Christian McQueen

Just to be clear it's obvious his social media and online presence is just massively fronting, it's all a fraud.

Post: #220

Great thread. I've been on IG for years. Mainly because I actually like photography and I travel a lot so I use the app as my own personal album. I might as well use those to my advantage and bang some IG girls.

So is FollowLiker still the best software to use? Any other alternatives?

Engagement rate opinion:
I'd say it's common to have a low engagement rate if you're using a bot like FollowLiker to get followers because at the end of the day, these people don't really know you. Most of my likes/comments are from close friends, people I've met IRL and some random "IG fans". That's why you see people with less than 1k followers (that doesn't use bot) but has higher engagement because most of their followers they've met IRL.

The best way to increase engagement is to obviously have great photos, add some funny/witty caption, show your personality/lifestyle through your photos/captions so they feel like they can connect with you and you also need to engage back with your followers. Just my 2 cents.

Post: #221

(11-12-2018 03:48 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 08:33 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  But the stuff Christian McQueen is doing seems pretty emulatable, I can't even see for sure if any of the hot girls are with him since he's almost never in the same picture with them.

Christian McQueen

Just to be clear it's obvious his social media and online presence is just massively fronting, it's all a fraud.

1. All of our social media and online presences are massively fronting. That is the entire point of this thread.

2. If you have a specific criticism to make, make it. Don't throw around the word "fraud" like it's supposed to mean something.

(11-12-2018 08:33 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  One thing I've noticed is that it's going to take at least 200+ posts to communicate a real solid lifestyle.

It doesn't. Quality over quantity. I have seen guys crush it with 20-40 photos. All of them need to be DHVs, however.

Post: #222

(11-13-2018 04:49 PM)corsega Wrote:  1. All of our social media and online presences are massively fronting. That is the entire point of this thread.

2. If you have a specific criticism to make, make it. Don't throw around the word "fraud" like it's supposed to mean something.

I mean to say he isn't actually banging all of those girls nor is he actually that rich nor does he actually have friends/connections, and it's pretty obvious to boot. To me why don't you actually have your social media reflect your actual life?

Post: #223

IG game is real. While I didn't follow any advice on this thread, nor have read it much.....I did get a bang from a girl that I DM'd.

Post: #224

(11-13-2018 05:09 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

(11-13-2018 04:49 PM)corsega Wrote:  1. All of our social media and online presences are massively fronting. That is the entire point of this thread.

2. If you have a specific criticism to make, make it. Don't throw around the word "fraud" like it's supposed to mean something.

I mean to say he isn't actually banging all of those girls nor is he actually that rich nor does he actually have friends/connections, and it's pretty obvious to boot. To me why don't you actually have your social media reflect your actual life?

he isn't actually banging all of those girls

Does he claim to be?

nor is he actually that rich

Does he claim to be?

It sounds like you are making all of these claims based on the image his profile is putting off. Sounds like his Game is working on you.

nor does he actually have friends/connections

You don't think he has friends/connections? Like, zero? Or can you clarify on the amount of friends/connections you think he has?

why don't you actually have your social media reflect your actual life?

Because we are not in this thread to discuss the truth.

The truth doesn't get you laid.

This is a forum about GAME.

Post: #225

Maybe I can add to this conversation. Some experience in this.
Insta is time consuming. the return on investment could be low.

Started and maintain insta for one purpose- getting MLTR's or FwB's.

Have gotten about 1 bang a month to a month and a half (I'm career orientated) plus several dates a month. with one of them being an incredible HB7 28yr old FwB/MLTR that I had the best sex with in my 40+ yrs. Took me 8 women just to get over her when I dropped her.

Have around 5.2k followers (72% women) about 200 posts (had a huge archive of great photos prior), get between 400-800 likes on a "journalist style" photo and about 600-900 likes on a selfie or portrait. Get a solid amount of comments and some thirst. I'm in finance so I am strapped for time and don't use this to promote a biz or service.

Followback ratio @ 12% (this could be higher- as high as 33% I suspect, but my feed gets muddled with people I don't want)

I get DMs frequently from women and also get stopped by women saying they follow me on insta. get drinks bought from women.

Majority are weird/bad that DM or stop me, but dated many 7s to 8s, have gotten many bangs since starting last December.

Find it helps my offline game when they creep me, if they add my number in their contacts- they get suggestions to add me in Instagram. (social proof)


This is my philosophy and what is a work in progress:
(some my be outright wrong, its a working theory)

1. Zero pics of me and my homies (women want to get to the "no" fast, if too douchy, you get disqualified)
2. Zero pics of me with women or kids (they all assume BF, hubby my kids, I assume same with women's insta's)
3. If any pics, its with powerful people (mayors, politicians, well known celebs, etc) (social proof game)
4. A selfie or portrait every 3rd or 4th. some shirtless pics, not too many, some in suits, some casual, some close, some full length (don't want to look like I am trying to hard or a narcissist)
5. The guise is that I like taking pictures, am good at it and once and a while show one of me. its my "art".
6. Don't do the heavy filter, snapchat or whatever on the ones showing me.
7. No hdr boring landscapes, people done photojournalism style is much more interesting. No insta style washed out look- I find it boring.
8. No text pics, no stock photo pics, no rando low quality pics. no snapchat badge pics. no me lifting in gym vids or pics.
9. No player pics, no me in my lambo, me in my heli, me in my private jet- provider type game pics for sugar babies or gold diggers to pick up on.
10. No preaching, no #blessed, no heavy bullshit long paragraph stuff.
11. In the stories, post something semi provocative at the end. Ask a semi-provocative question at the end of a story- keep stories short, 3-4 pics tops.
12. No multi photo posts above 3. No cliche photos (back turned on mountain, hand back extended in tropical paradise, boring tourist shots no MMA/boxing shots of me), no spamming with multiple photos per day.
13. no bot follow up DM'ing chicks thanking them for the follow or bot DM's when following- it doesn't work.

make it easy for chicks to DM you.


Don't:
-Like or dm girls with over 5k followers- waste of time unless you are a defs chad with a 6 pack and are top quartile. Girls with 15k followers are basket cases
-Like girls that look like sluts or have pro Boudoir photos- they are narcissistic sluts
-Bother with the discovery page, its all photos with 10,000+ likes
-Bother with out of town girls. waste of time.
-Never compliment. never.
-Cold dm, never works or rarely works depending on your SMV.
- Like or follow/dm the ones that don't show face, there is a reason 99.9% of the time. (they are fat or ugly)
- Like any girls with just bar shots or chick only group shots of them.
-99% of the time what their friends look like or do they do is what they are/do.
-Follow back chicks that follow you without liking a few of your pics- most of the time its bots they will just drop you in a couple days after you follow back- I actually punt these girls off my feed- use an unfollower app that allows me to make them unfollow without blocking.
- Reply to randos that want to send you a message who look hot- that's gay Indian, trade pics game. Just no. the only thing they will bug you for is getting you to send them gift cards.
- follow cam girls- wate of time.
- don't DM/ follow girls you swiped with on tinder- unless they respond on tinder prior.




Do/know:

-change it to a business account. you get metrics this way.
-like and flirt with foreign or non-local girls to get your text game down at first. don't have big long romantic text exchanges just witty prototype stuff you can try- if it blows up who cares.
target hot/attractive girls that don't look like total sluts with under 2k followers, ideally under 500.
-use all 30 hashtags when posting.
-if a posting day, for a selfie/portrait like a all of the girls you follow and comment on their latest pic. this will boost your ranking (my theory) if you have lots of local likers and commenters on your local hashtags. its your engagement
-if posting, do a story allude to it in the story, and post the pic immediately after or just before the story posts. I do this for selfie days.
-use a liking service for local hashtags. get it to view the stories and like the posts of your followers.
-realize its a large number game, and girls will play the follow/unfollow game all the time.
-girls with 250 followers will game their ratio as hard or harder than chicks with 5k followers.
- I cull male followers- my ideal is zero, right now I have 24% male, if/when I get time I will kick them when I find them. Same with commercial accounts like lashes, wigs, mma, boxing, bitcoin, etc. kick them all.
- if you do everything right and a girl doesn't DM you back or plays super hard to get/sassy- kick them delete your texts off the DM thread. if they view it and go cold- unfollow, delete your texts, unlike their photos (if you want), and kick them off your feed. Waste of time.
- drop the convo if you cannot convert to a date or feel they just want to talk to a guy. its a time waster. or if they are not picking up innuendo.
- if you cannot get a very clear understanding of their body type in their feed- unfollow, they are 100 p fat.
- if you see a instagram girl at the gym who follows you- approach or if cool on her - just nod, wave or wink and smile.



My steps to get a # and a date:

When trolling for girls look up local hashtags of the city, spots, night spots, etc.
Find the attractive ones, if they meet the above criteria follow this below:

Start by liking 3-6 photos of just them, comment on one of their last 3 pics, then wait. IF they like your shirtless photos and other selfies, they like you. Then like 1 more and follow them and DM them. Ideally when they are online. The extra like creates a bit of a space in their likes page in the app so it differentiates you a bit. DO not like another 6.
If they just like your comment- they are not attracted to you or have too many dicks in the pipeline.

If they just reciprocate by liking your landscapes or street shots, they are not attracted to you enough and probs just want more followers. The speed in which they do this, matters. IF they are liking back your selfies quickly- DM them. Tell them thanks for the likes, and open. Cheeky or super cocky doesn't work well on insta. Tone it down a bit. Confirm where they live quickly, then within 3-4 cool non-needy exchanges, ask them out.

Then DM them your number- the faster they text your phone, the better. Set the date as soon as possible. The rest is well documented.

another way is to find a good looking girl and if her friend is cute- go on their page and like and follow then go back and like the original girl, then follow the steps above.


Things to try:

+ sponsor a post
+ let your ratio go to 1:1
+ drop my non-local followers but my overall follower count would drop substantially.
+ Only if you are decent, and feel this is worth the risk- get a second Instagram and build up a portfolio of portraits that you have taken of your friends etc, then like and comment how you would take pics of the models you like (obviously free). Personally, wouldn't put in that kind of time to try and on the off chance to get a model bang- unless you really like photography and are decent and have or can rent good gear- they will call you out if you show with a consumer grade camera. Don't be surprised if mom or a friend shows. get model release forms.