Post: #676

This whole thread is comedy gold

(02-12-2018 01:41 PM)Dragan Wrote:  You need to carefully vet your friends first to avoid any problems.

Post: #677

For posterity.

   

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Post: #678

(06-28-2018 01:09 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  This whole thread is comedy gold

(02-12-2018 01:41 PM)Dragan Wrote:  You need to carefully vet your friends first to avoid any problems.

Oh man there are some highlights in this thread. Someone needs to make a reel because I get a headache reading through most of those posts in full from the lack of social awareness.

Post: #679

I'd love to go Dragon hunting with PP and smash that greasy little fuck weasel in the face. According to his bum buddies "Beebop and Rocksteady" you can pay bouncers to beat the tar out of a guy for a few Euros.

who's in?

I'll do it, I'll fuckin do it!!!

Post: #680

Dragan is in his Yugoslav studio apartment now getting ready for when he is next spotted by a RVF member in Belgrade

Post: #681

Much respect to Pain Positive for putting up with this bullshit and risking his own skin to vet someone for the forum. If you're ever in my area, be sure to drop by for dinner.

Post: #682

Dragan IS gonna get laid, alright - by some hardened war criminal in Sremska Mitrovica, if the Nautism Crew keep leading him astray.

Post: #683

I was on the way out the door when one of my friends on this thread told me my voice was posted by Fatso. While the message was a little over the top it was still pretty funny. I'm not mad at all. Nothing bad happened and this was the best possible outcome.

I try to see the best in people and give them the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes this can bite you in the ass. That being said, I have met some of the best guys in the world on this forum. Loyal awesome friends that put up with grumpy temperament, wild behavior, and my loud, long-winded stories. Some of my very best friends came from this forum so I'll continue to meet people and occasionally extend a helping hand to some newbie like I always have.

I fucked up with my assessment of Dragan so this is my own fault. I've done this a couple other times on and off the forum. I want to be nice to people and all that shit so I sometimes just assume people are mostly good. I haven't lived in a small town in more than ten years but I still act small-town towards people. I still think Dragan is mostly good too but is all screwed up in life. I wish him well and hope he gets laid someday.

As for me, I just had a great night at some splav that I usually don't like. My friend was with me and was super high energy for some reason. Some would have called him a clown but he had such a good vibe girls were laughing and dancing with him. This gave me some energy and I stared in as well and had an awesome night. I was winging for my buddy and asked the other girl how old she was and she said 18. I didn't believe her and asked what year she was born and she said 2000! This hit me like a ton of bricks. When did this happen? That's what I love about these Belgrade girls man...

Anyway, just wanted let you all know everything is cool and I don't regret anything about this situation. Life is good and tomorrow I won't wake up a fat virgin so that's always nice to look forward to. I might even bang my girlfriend. (Because pussy's awesome.)

Thanks for the kind words and you guys ever need someone's existence verified again just do me a favor and kindly leave me the fuck out of it.

Cheers!

Post: #684

A few comments on the city itself.

FOOD

The food is great in Belgrade! Saying that there is no diversity is a fucking lie. When I lived there, I would usually go Chinese. Delicious and affordable. http://asiafood-bg.com/jelovnik-menu.php

A few times, I visited this Japanese restaurant, and it was good. http://marukoshi.rs/en/

If you want sushi, I would recommend Moon. http://www.moon-sushi.com/en/delivery/menu-set

WOMEN

Some members have commented on Belgrade's women in a negative/neutral fashion. I don't appreciate that. I lived in the city center and every day I took a walk to the store. I was amazed by their sex appeal. When I want to describe Serbian beauty to someone who was never there, I usually say that Serbian women are more sexy than beautiful. The capital of Serbia has an endless supply of boner test graduates! That is one of the best things about it. Other great things are cheap food & drinks, affordable accommodation, and party vibe.

Post: #685

(06-28-2018 04:12 AM)PainPositive Wrote:  I was on the way out the door when one of my friends on this thread told me my voice was posted by Fatso. While the message was a little over the top it was still pretty funny. I'm not mad at all. Nothing bad happened and this was the best possible outcome.

I agree. I heard your voice-message before the mods removed it, and, I don't understand what Dragan was hoping to achieve there (except looking himself like a treacherous fool). For this message gave a good image of you, and a very bad image indeed of Dragan.

I mean, you sounded legitimately upset, but you uttered no actual threat, nothing that the Law could hold against you. You just sounded like a normal Alpha dude giving a lesson in life to a beta-guy who had disrespected him. So you came out on top, and yes, your message was quite funny too. Something like, "I shook your hand and looked you in the eye like a man, and you go and lie and try to back-stab like a bitch" : legendary, man! It's a Clint-Eastwood-level line here!

Actual recording of Pain Positive meeting Dragan and his Nola+Climber(on the fence) crew, all smiles at first, but then...

"get three coffins ready"




So my advice, Dragan: apologize to PP's mule, like I know you're going to!

"My mistake, four coffins": well yes, we had to include Papa-Hemingway, too.

Post: #686

I'll guess I'll give the city a few days. What's the best time of the year to visit there?

Post: #687

Late spring, early autumn is ideal, mostly because of high temperature and exodus of students during the Summer. July is probably the worst month outside of winter time.

Post: #688

Not that it matters anymore, but there's no doubt in my mind that nola/NTP is actively targeting and manipulating Dragan for God knows what reason. Nola was probably in the background cheering while Dragan stabbed us in the back.

What's interesting is that most guys on the forum actually rooted for Dragan's success until Dragan started vehemently defending nola in the French Legionnaire thread. So Dragan was actually doing somewhat OK until he got close with nola.

Who even knows what weird reasons nola is "social engineering" a mentally weak and vulnerable kid like Dragan. There could be some really dark and fucked up shit going on here.

It's no wonder the women in Belgrade are initially skeptical of foreigners who say they're staying in Belgrade long-term. You get some fucking weird scumbags who show up in Belgrade from time to time.

Either way, I learned a valuable lesson here, which is to be extremely careful about the people who you spend any amount of time with. Next time I see an early warning sign, I'm staying the fuck away.

Dragan actually hurt people in his same position. The odds of me trying to help another socially inexperienced virgin are non-existent now. I no longer give a fuck because of this narcissistic piece of shit.

Post: #689

I say we get over this event. There is an infinite amount of losers in this world and it is not worth it.

I'll be probably checking Belgrade early autumn. Will drop my opinion after that.

Post: #690

This event is an important lesson for anyone on RVF who meets people from the forum.

Are you going to meet people from RVF when you go to Belgrade?

I see that you only have 3 rep points. Now, people are going to wonder who you are and what your intentions might be. Guys will be hesitant to meet you.

Dragan actually fucked you too.

Post: #691

(06-28-2018 09:01 AM)stefpdt Wrote:  This event is an important lesson for anyone on RVF who meets people from the forum.

Are you going to meet people from RVF when you go to Belgrade?

I see that you only have 3 rep points. Now, people are going to wonder who you are and what your intentions might be. Guys will be hesitant to meet you.

Dragan actually fucked you too.

For my case I'm really just going there to see the "vibe" of the city and the quality of the girls. Some places/food/girls tick with me better than anything else and i'd not mind putting a couple grands on another city if it is worth it.

I never thought the rep points hold any "credibility" value. any group can rep each other so it is just a matter of time before it is abused.

Post: #692

It's less about the rep points and more about who reps you.

Guys with good reputations are now less likely to risk their own reputations meeting newer people like yourself (thanks Dragan).

One of my friends tried meeting guy friends through Couchsurfing meetups, and he found most of them to be beta males with zero game.

Then he started networking through RVF, and met a bunch of genuinely cool motherfuckers who actually like to get laid.

This place is an invaluable resource IMO. So it's worth building a good reputation here.

Post: #693

I'm not really bothered by it stefpdt. You can still meet people outside. I think the rep system should be disabled or limited to higher members. I already see some snob repping me neutral for "trolling". He didn't even quote the part where I was "trolling".

Post: #694

Yes you can still meet people outside. That can work too. You just have to put in a lot more work that way compared to having a built-in network in place wherever you go in the world.

Post: #695

Dragan needed to go and it was just a matter of time. From the beginning his posts were very rose tinted about Belgrade and outright misleading at times, probably in hopes of convincing more foreign guys to come be his wing men. He only expressed a more balanced view of Belgrade's shortcomings once the ban hammer was clearly imminent.

About Pain Positive
I lived in Belgrade for over a year ('15) and hung out with him there and in several other cities since then. He had my apartment parties stocked with attractive Serbian women on several occasions. I was very impressed with both the quality of his results and his ability to network with locals. It's worth mentioning he's tall and a natural leader (important to Serbian women who are strong themselves), so not every guy will get the same mileage.

He is all around a straight shooter and I struggle to recall a better wing man from my travels (a rare mix of skill and generosity). The fact that Dragan managed to burn a bridge with a cool laid back guy in a matter of days is testament to how maladjusted he is socially.

Post: #696

(06-28-2018 09:36 AM)jcardial Wrote:  Dragan needed to go and it was just a matter of time. From the beginning his posts were very rose tinted about Belgrade and outright misleading at times, probably in hopes of convincing more foreign guys to come be his wing men. He only expressed a more balanced view of Belgrade's shortcomings once the ban hammer was clearly imminent.

Very good points. I think Dragan had good intentions from the beginning and his posts seemed to be genuine. But his huge problem was that his posts and opinion were totally one eyed. For some reason in every single post on every single topic he made Belgrade looking like the heaven on earth. Then he went on and went to Sofia for three days and got wasted with his low level Serbian crew and came back here starting a thread describing what a shithole Sofia is. He also continually posted in the Ukrainian threads how ruined Ukraine and Kiev especially is through the influx of Arabic sex tourists despite never ever having set a foot into Ukraine.

In my opinion Serbia has the most beautiful girls on this planet but it will help you nothing if you can´t get access to them. There is a reason why more RVF members go to Ukraine or Russia. For people considering going to Serbia just a few points why the city is not the best city to live for more than a week:

- Public transportation is bad. For such a big city there is no subway system
- City and nightlife is spread out but there is no Uber and taxis are total scammers
- Serbian guys especially football fans can be really racist even towards white foreign looking guys (I have first hand experience)
- The hottest girls are going to Turbo Folk clubs. These clubs don't have a dancefloor and u should reserve a table. Even places at the bar are usually reserved. This makes gaming there a nightmare. Especially if you on your own or just with another guy
- Serbian guys are attractive and tall. So if you short like me u have another disadvantage.

These are just a few points which I can think of. I have huge respect for a guy like Pain Positive who seemed like to be able to build a social circle and to get integrated into Serbian society.

One last word about Dragan. Serbians do not like it if foreigners are acting like they own the place and are acting superior. For a foreigner in any EE country it is the best to stay under the radar. If Dragan does not follow this advice sooner or later he will end in hospital.

Post: #697

(06-28-2018 09:33 AM)stefpdt Wrote:  Yes you can still meet people outside. That can work too. You just have to put in a lot more work that way compared to having a built-in network in place wherever you go in the world.

I don't really agree with this. I have found that people will get very comfortable with you fast if they find you compatible. Not saying meeting forum members is not valuable but not the end of the world either. I also don't think the dragan event should change the dynamics. Maybe make the members more careful.

If you go to the beginning of the post, dragran was inviting random people for "project belgrade". Even if these people are from roosh and share the same motif, i still think it's a recipe for disaster. you need to see how comfortable these people are with each other.

Quote:Dragan needed to go and it was just a matter of time. From the beginning his posts were very rose tinted about Belgrade and outright misleading at times, probably in hopes of convincing more foreign guys to come be his wing men. He only expressed a more balanced view of Belgrade's shortcomings once the ban hammer was clearly imminent.

I really wanted to shit on the thread on the beginning but resisted to do it not to look like an asshole. How come the place is the paradise if you don't get laid there? It is a good nice beautiful city but it is dirty too. People are nice but they'll scam you, etc...

Post: #698

(06-28-2018 09:36 AM)jcardial Wrote:  Dragan needed to go and it was just a matter of time. From the beginning his posts were very rose tinted about Belgrade and outright misleading at times, probably in hopes of convincing more foreign guys to come be his wing men. He only expressed a more balanced view of Belgrade's shortcomings once the ban hammer was clearly imminent.

About Pain Positive
I lived in Belgrade for over a year ('15) and hung out with him there and in several other cities since then. He had my apartment parties stocked with attractive Serbian women on several occasions. I was very impressed with both the quality of his results and his ability to network with locals. It's worth mentioning he's tall and a natural leader (important to Serbian women who are strong themselves), so not every guy will get the same mileage.

He is all around a straight shooter and I struggle to recall a better wing man from my travels (a rare mix of skill and generosity). The fact that Dragan managed to burn a bridge with a cool laid back guy in a matter of days is testament to how maladjusted he is socially.

Those were the best times man! I wish we took more pictures. One thing that becomes more clear to me though is it's not the city as much as it is the social group you have. Good friends really make the difference and is honestly the biggest reason I'm moving.

Post: #699

^^Are there any cities in particular that you find better than Belgrade for single guys? In terms of long-term living I mean.

Post: #700

I think Belgrade is one of the best cities in the world for having mini-relationships with sexy, sweet, smart and feminine women. So rather than having SNL's, you're focusing on retention, and keeping a bunch of attractive women in your life. This can actually help your lifestyle if you're a businessman and you have a lot of shit going on.

Rather than going out and partying looking for SNL's, you just put in an hour of daygame every day, and go on dates throughout the week, while you focus on your online business and other shit that you have going on.

That's why I like Belgrade and consider it a mini "heaven" of sorts.

But I'm also coming from the USA, which feels like a prison state to me, where if you make a single wrong move you can end up with a sexual harassment allegation. Serbia feels like the Wild Wild East, and I love it for that reason.

That said, I realize that cities like Krakow, Medellin, or Bangkok may be a lot better for long-term living as a single guy.

Still curious to hear PainPositive's opinion on this.