(12-14-2018 08:22 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  This not accurate as I understand the case. Its true that she was made to feel uncomfortable by some lame jokes in front of the entire crew. But then she did what she should do: confront the guy privately. As far as I can tell she actually did the right thing.

So in response to her chastising Weatherly for being a douche and a doofus her character was written off the show: in essence fired in retaliation. The $9.5 million was essentially what she would have been paid if she had been hired on as a permanent character.

This case does not belong in this thread

Let's not twist facts to suit a desired narrative. That's what "they" do.

The "right thing" would have been to keep her big mouth shut, not to confront the boss because she didn't like his jokes. She's a hot woman, people aren't supposed to notice that when it's the sole reason for her career?

If someone working for me told me in private or public that I had to treat them like a special snowflake because they couldn't take a joke then you're damn right I'd have them out the door as soon as possible.

She got herself fired because she thought she was the one with power. And it's influenced by MeToo because the pussy pass paid off - the guy joked about a threesome, that's sex assault in the current year.

(12-15-2018 01:15 AM)Malone Wrote:  On the other hand, are you not allowed to fire your employee for being a cunt? If one of my employees ever "chastised me for being a douche" they would be out the fucking door.

This wasn't that either. This was one employee (her) taking another employee (Weatherly) aside and to discuss the issue privately. Then Weatherly going to the producers / show runners like a bitch and complaining about her. Him being the star of the show they write her character out. It appears he was the one acting a cunt.

(12-15-2018 02:54 AM)Benoit Wrote:  

(12-14-2018 08:22 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  This not accurate as I understand the case. Its true that she was made to feel uncomfortable by some lame jokes in front of the entire crew. But then she did what she should do: confront the guy privately. As far as I can tell she actually did the right thing.

So in response to her chastising Weatherly for being a douche and a doofus her character was written off the show: in essence fired in retaliation. The $9.5 million was essentially what she would have been paid if she had been hired on as a permanent character.

This case does not belong in this thread

Let's not twist facts to suit a desired narrative. That's what "they" do.

The "right thing" would have been to keep her big mouth shut, not to confront the boss because she didn't like his jokes. She's a hot woman, people aren't supposed to notice that when it's the sole reason for her career?

If someone working for me told me in private or public that I had to treat them like a special snowflake because they couldn't take a joke then you're damn right I'd have them out the door as soon as possible.

She got herself fired because she thought she was the one with power. And it's influenced by MeToo because the pussy pass paid off - the guy joked about a threesome, that's sex assault in the current year.

So in other words if your gay colleague or boss jokes about wanting to butt fuck you in front of other employees you'd just keep your mouth shut....I see.


Again...there seemingly was no #metoo or pussy pass issue in this case. What there was is a case of wrongful termination and material damages incurred by a person who happens to be an attractive woman.

Some of you guys need to get a grip on your "all women deserve my hate".

(12-12-2018 07:38 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  NYT Writer: Cancel Holiday Office Parties So Women Avoid Sexual Harassment

New York Times opinion writer Jennifer Weiner told CBS This Morning hosts that holiday office parties are nothing more than another opportunity for women to be sexually harassed.
In her article titled “The Torture of Dressing for Your Office Holiday Party,” Weiner described the holiday season as “the least wonderful time of the year.”
“Why are we having holiday parties at all?” complained Weiner to Gayle King on Monday morning. “Wouldn’t you rather have an extra $100 in your paycheck than have to put on the Spanx, put on the heels, be social with the guy with, like, the stale coffee breath who’s looking at your backside every time you go to the copier? You know how that is.”
Weiner lamented that while men have it easy with a suit-and-tie “uniform,” women’s dress for office holiday parties is more complicated – particularly since the birth of the “MeToo” movement – because now they must find a balance between professional attire and the desire to look attractive and festive during the holiday season.
“This is such a throwback, though, the suggestion of what I wear is that I’m asking for it,” added Norah O’Donnell. “Why aren’t we focused more on behavior rather than what people are wearing? Why don’t we just have conversation about norms of behavior?”
Co-anchor Bianna Golodryga offered that women would be wise to avoid drinking at holiday office parties....

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/...arassment/


So now the supposed "strong career women" are so soft & fragile, even social parties need to be bubble-wrapped safe-spaces...?

Of course the truth of the matter may lie in the reality of the matter.
Jennifer here, must be wondering why all those guys out there simply can't resist attempting to rape her...

This woman lives in either the Bizarro World or Fantasyland. As an actual human being who lives in the real world, here is what I saw when I used to go to office Christmas parties:

1). Women LIKE to dress up. They LIKE to show they look good. Only in the minds of unattractive female New York Times reporters is this some sort of hardship. Just because she looks fugly in a short skirt doesn't mean everyone does.

2). Women LIKE the opportunity to let their hair down, drink, and flirt. Another reality check: Women are not robots programmed to do billing or analyze credit reports. They're grown-up versions of the girls you knew in college. Most sane ones want to have fun once in a while. Life if more than paper pushing.

What troubles me about all this is that this writer, Jennifer Weiner, has taken something festive and recast it as oppressive and somehow "wrong."

This is very similar to the way fanatical, right-wing bible thumpers used to chastise dancing and rock music as "sinful" (i.e. the movie "Footloose"). I see all of this as a form of social control.

H.L. Mencken: "Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy."

(12-15-2018 03:10 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  So in other words if your gay colleague or boss jokes about wanting to butt fuck you in front of other employees you'd just keep your mouth shut....I see.


Again...there seemingly was no #metoo or pussy pass issue in this case. What there was is a case of wrongful termination and material damages incurred by a person who happens to be an attractive woman.

Some of you guys need to get a grip on your "all women deserve my hate".

I really don't understand where your anger is coming from. Nobody is saying they hate women here, and suggesting that as the reason for people disagreeing with you is an extreme jump. This isn't a wrongful dismissal suit, this is a payout because she claimed harassment, which wouldn't have been accepted 10 years ago.


I think it can be viewed both ways. Read the full article. The guy seems like an unfunny asshole who can't make a decent joke to save his life. Nobody in this comes out well, but equally she's not some new starlet in her first job, she's been an actress for decades. She knows how the system works.

He made the jokes and everyone laughed except her.

That either means her sense of humour is out of whack with the whole group, or everyone recognises that he's got enough power that they should pretend he's funny.

In either of those situations, unless you're best friends, the right move is not to take him aside and tell him that his jokes are shit and he needs to change his behaviour so that you never feel uncomfortable.

He 'shouldn't' have gone to the bosses and got her sacked, but he did. Actions have consequences, and she understood the politics of the situation enough that she should have known this.

Bro...there's no anger on my part. I regret if Im coming across as angry. Im not. I dont care enough to be angry.

That said I think its important to keep the content on this thread as accurate as possible. The abuses of the movement cause real damage to innocent men.

This is not such a case.

I read several articles and below seems to (but who fucking knows) have the most thorough account:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/13/busin...sment.html

Quote:[size=small]In March 2017, Eliza Dushku, an actress known for her work on “Buffy the Vampire Slayer,” signed on to play a major role in three episodes of the CBS prime-time drama “Bull,” and there were plans to make her a full-time cast member.

Her time on the set began promisingly. The show’s star, Michael Weatherly — a mainstay of CBS’s prime-time lineup for 15 years — seemed friendly. And a producer and writer on “Bull,” Glenn Gordon Caron, told Ms. Dushku she would be more than a love interest.

Then came a series of comments that made Ms. Dushku uncomfortable. In front of the cast and crew, Mr. Weatherly remarked on her appearance, and made a rape joke and a comment about a threesome. Shortly after Ms. Dushku confronted the star about his behavior, she was written off the show. She believed her time on “Bull” came to a sudden end as a result of retaliation.

After she went through mediation with CBS, the company agreed to a confidential settlement that would pay her $9.5 million, roughly the equivalent of what Ms. Dushku would have earned if she had stayed on as a cast member for four seasons.


Details of Ms. Dushku’s experiences on “Bull” and the confidential settlement she reached with the company emerged during the course of an investigation that began in August, when the CBS Corporation board hired the law firms Covington & Burling and Debevoise & Plimpton to examine accusations of sexual misconduct made by multiple women against Leslie Moonves, the company’s former chief executive. The board also instructed the outside lawyers to investigate “cultural issues at all levels of CBS.”

In a draft of the investigation report, which was reviewed by The New York Times, the lawyers said the company’s handling of Ms. Dushku’s complaints was not only misguided, but emblematic of larger problems at CBS. When faced with instances of wrongdoing, the company had a tendency to protect itself, at the expense of victims, the investigators wrote.



Ms. Dushku declined to comment for this article. In a statement on Wednesday, CBS confirmed the settlement and pledged to improve working conditions.

“The allegations in Ms. Dushku’s claims are an example that, while we remain committed to a culture defined by a safe, inclusive and respectful workplace, our work is far from done,” the statement said. “The settlement of these claims reflects the projected amount that Ms. Dushku would have received for the balance of her contract as a series regular, and was determined in a mutually agreed upon mediation process at the time.”


In an emailed statement to The Times, Mr. Weatherly apologized for his behavior with Ms. Dushku.

“During the course of taping our show, I made some jokes mocking some lines in the script,” Mr. Weatherly said in the statement. “When Eliza told me that she wasn’t comfortable with my language and attempt at humor, I was mortified to have offended her and immediately apologized. After reflecting on this further, I better understand that what I said was both not funny and not appropriate and I am sorry and regret the pain this caused Eliza.”

Written Off
“Bull,” an hourlong procedural series that premiered in September 2016, is the 10th most-watched entertainment program on network television. The main character is loosely based on Dr. Phil McGraw, who worked as a trial consultant before he became a popular talk-show host.

Dr. McGraw is one of the producers of “Bull,” as is Mr. Caron, who created the prime-time hit “Moonlighting.” Shot mainly in New York, “Bull” is produced in association with Steven Spielberg’s Amblin Television.

Mr. Weatherly, 50, was a star of the network’s most popular drama, “NCIS,” for 13 seasons before CBS gave him “Bull.” The character he plays, Dr. Jason Bull, is a self-assured trial consultant. He is also a flirt.

CBS emphasized the character’s roguish side when it marketed the show in the summer of 2016. Billboards showed a close-up of Mr. Weatherly’s face behind a double entendre in huge red letters: “He’ll Get You Off.”

Ms. Dushku, 37, has been in show business for more than 20 years. In addition to her recurring role on “Buffy the Vampire Slayer,” she was a regular on the shows “Angel,” “Dollhouse” and “Banshee.” She became a voice in the #MeToo movement earlier this year when she claimed in a Facebook post that she had been molested by a stunt coordinator as a 12-year-old on the set of the 1994 movie “True Lies.” The stunt coordinator denied her allegations.

When Ms. Dushku signed on with “Bull” at $35,000 per episode — a figure that would have increased significantly, if she had continued on the show — there were “well developed plans” to have her become a regular cast member, according to the draft of the investigators’ report.




The investigation’s findings show how Ms. Dushku sought to address conduct she found demeaning, why she believed she faced retaliation and how a top CBS lawyer tried to undermine her claims with what investigators described as an “antiquated” view of how a woman should comport herself in the workplace.

On “Bull,” Ms. Dushku played J.P. Nunnelly, a criminal defense lawyer. Although she would have a running flirtation with Mr. Weatherly’s character, Mr. Caron, the producer, said that he “wouldn’t want intimacy” until the show’s fifth season, according to notes taken by a participant in an interview Ms. Dushku gave investigators in September.

But it wasn’t long before Mr. Weatherly started making comments that left her feeling uncomfortable. “Here comes legs,” he said on a day when Ms. Dushku was wearing a suit, according to the interview notes. On another occasion, Ms. Dushku told investigators, he said in front of the cast and crew that he would bend her over his leg and spank her.

In an interview, Mr. Weatherly said the remark about spanking was meant as a joke. “I ad-libbed a joke, a classic Cary Grant line from ‘Charade’ or ‘Philadelphia Story,’ and that meant not at all that that was an action I wanted to take,” he said.

Ms. Dushku also described to investigators a time on the set when, in character, she made a gesture with three fingers. In response, she said, Mr. Weatherly suggested — to laughs from the crew — that she wanted to have a threesome with him and another male cast member.


Ms. Dushku played J.P. Nunnelly, a criminal defense lawyer, on “Bull” last year.CreditDavid M. Russell/CBS

Because of his status on the show, his behavior was contagious, in Ms. Dushku’s view. She told investigators that a crew member approached her at one point and said with a chuckle, “I’m with Bull,” before suggesting that he, too, wanted to take part in a threesome with her.

The exchange left Ms. Dushku feeling “disgusting and violated,” according to the interview notes.

Mr. Weatherly said that when he mentioned a threesome, it was not to suggest Ms. Dushku take part in a threesome with him and another cast member. “While we’re shooting, in the context of the scene, she held up three fingers, suggesting something,” he said. “And I ad-libbed, ‘Threesome?’”

Then came the shooting of a scene involving a windowless van. With the cameras rolling, in front of the cast and crew, Mr. Weatherly said he would take Ms. Dushku to his “rape van,” which, he added, was filled with phallic objects and lubricant, according to the interview notes.

Mr. Weatherly said the “rape van” line was an attempted joke that misfired. “The scripted line in that scene was, ‘Hey, young lady, step into my windowless van,’” he said. “I didn’t particularly like that line, so I joked, in order to highlight how distasteful the emphasis of the line was, about an ‘r. van,’ a rape van. Which, in retrospect, was not a good idea.”

Ms. Dushku shared her concerns with Mr. Caron, who seemed receptive, according to the interview notes, and they agreed that she would approach Mr. Weatherly.

She began by telling Mr. Weatherly that “everyone loves” him on the set and followed his lead. She pointed out that after he made the threesome comment, a crew member said something similar to her, according to the interview notes. Mr. Weatherly asked Ms. Dushku who had made the remark and why she did not report it. As Ms. Dushku later told the lawyers, she did not have the sense that there was a “safe person you could go to” with that kind of complaint.

After the talk, Mr. Weatherly sent a text to David Stapf, the president of CBS Television Studios, saying that he wanted to talk about Ms. Dushku’s sense of humor. Mr. Stapf replied that Ms. Dushku made the show better, according to the interview notes.

Around the same time, Ms. Dushku expressed the worry to her representatives that Mr. Weatherly might go to CBS and get her fired.

Cont below

Cont from post above

Quote:That is effectively what happened. Within days of confronting Mr. Weatherly, Ms. Dushku was written off the show. The plan to make her part of the cast was over. By way of explanation, Mr. Caron told her that he “didn’t know how to write” her into the show anymore, according to the interview notes.

Mr. Weatherly denied pushing for Ms. Dushku’s removal. “It’s my recollection that I didn’t tell anyone how they should do their job regarding the hiring or firing of anybody,” he said.

Mr. Caron, who joined “Bull” in 2017 and later became its showrunner, said the decision to end Ms. Dushku’s run had nothing to do with her experiences on the set. “The idea that our not exercising her option to join the series was in any way punitive just couldn’t be further from the truth,” he said in a statement.

‘Embarrassed and Humiliated’
On one of her final days on “Bull,” Mr. Weatherly insisted that she stay for a champagne toast celebrating the wrap of another season. Ms. Dushku thought that was odd, because she would not be returning and had been open about the fact that she did not drink.

During the toast, Mr. Weatherly said he needed a “really beautiful woman” to grab a ticket for a raffle. “Eliza,” he said in front of everyone, according to the interview notes, “we need you, the most beautiful woman, to come grab the raffle ticket.”

Ms. Dushku, in her final moments as part of the “Bull” sphere, played along, although she felt “embarrassed and humiliated.”

Ms. Dushku told investigators that she relayed her experiences on “Bull” to Leslee Feldman, an executive at Amblin. “If Steven ever knew about this, he would be so horrified,” Ms. Feldman said, referring to Mr. Spielberg, the chief executive of Amblin Partners, according to what Ms. Dushku said during the interview. Amblin declined to comment.

After considering a lawsuit, Ms. Dushku entered into mediation with CBS. Mark Engstrom, the chief compliance officer at CBS, participated, along with Bettina B. Plevan, a partner at the law firm Proskauer Rose, who was serving as outside counsel for the company.

Mr. Engstrom handed over outtakes from “Bull” in the belief that they would help the company’s cause, because they showed Ms. Dushku cursing on the set, investigators wrote in the draft of their report.

The strategy backfired. The outtakes were a “gold mine” for Ms. Dushku, the lawyers wrote, because they “actually captured some of the harassment on film.”

Although the investigators praised Mr. Engstrom for his “tremendous institutional knowledge” and described him as a “smart and very capable lawyer,” they said the company’s failure to recognize the instances of harassment caught on tape was a symptom of larger problems at CBS, according to the draft of their report. Mr. Engstrom declined to comment.

Mr. Weatherly, Mr. Caron and Amblin Television were parties to the settlement agreement, which prohibited Ms. Dushku from discussing her experiences on the show in exchange for the $9.5 million payment.

The settlement agreement came about in January, when the #MeToo movement was on the rise, three months after the first articles on Harvey Weinstein’s alleged sexual misconduct appeared in The Times and The New Yorker.



Eight months after the settlement, when Ms. Dushku sat for the interview with the lawyers investigating CBS, she said she welcomed the chance to speak her piece. “You’re all I have at this point,” she told them. “My story is true and it’s really affected me, and I can’t talk about it.”[/size]

She felt disrespected and uncomfortable. A woman should have the right to address something that comes up at work just as a man does... shouldn't she?

Note she went to him directly first. That is the most important point Not the press as most #metoo abusers looking for attention do. Not the press. Not a lawyer.

I dont know anything else about this woman. She may be a cunt from hell but in this instance she seemed to have handled it like a professional and with class.

In return she got written off the show. Thats clear retaliation.

Where is the "#metoo" or "pussy pass" in the details above ?

If a gay colleague were to joke about butt fucking me or having a gay three way with me in front of others at work Id most definitely have a word in private with him the first time. I doubt there'd be a 2nd time but Id be 6'3" and 240lb angry Cuban. She doesnt have that option

What did she do wrong in that scenario other than be a woman standing up for herself?

I dont see it

By the way. This Weatherly chode's behavior is just another example of a thirsty dude with bad game. He was undoutedly wanting to bang her and these "jokes" were just awkward and show horrendous calibration

Shouldn't the #MeToo movement have lost it's credibility by now with the news of Asia Argento fucking a 16 year old boy?

(12-16-2018 08:31 PM)Kurgan Wrote:  Shouldn't the #MeToo movement have lost it's credibility by now with the news of Asia Argento fucking a 16 year old boy?

Hey, women can do no wrong, dontcha know? check your privilege, you patriarchal misogynist.

In other news, Woody Allen is under fire.

(12-17-2018 02:08 PM)MOVSM Wrote:  

(12-16-2018 08:31 PM)Kurgan Wrote:  Shouldn't the #MeToo movement have lost it's credibility by now with the news of Asia Argento fucking a 16 year old boy?

In other news, Woody Allen is under fire.

Given that she was only 16 years old, I think we can all agree he is definitely a pedophile. No straight, adult man could look at this innocent, virginal young woman and feel lust, impossible*:



*However, it would be very normal and healthy to wait 15 months until she turned 18, and THEN feel lust. That wouldn't be creepy, but thinking the above woman (really just a child) is hot would be. Just so we're clear.

^^^^^

If you go to Christina Engelhardt's Web site, there is a section called "Astrology" where she "calculates" (LOL) astrological charts and says: "I come from a ten generation lineage of psychic mediums and first began my training at age six."

So, right off the bat that tells me she has little credibility. When I started in journalism, anyone who claimed to be an astrologer or "medium" would never be taken seriously as a source.

But, of course, things are different now. We have to #believewomen.

OK, so I'll believe it. Her Web site also says she 5'8." Woody Allen is said to be 5'5" (which probably means 5'3").

So, here we have a nerdy guy not only dating a woman less than half his age but a taller woman who is a model...for eight years...while he was with Mia Farrow, a movie star.

If he really pulled this off, this is pretty damned impressive.

As for the underage factor: The age of consent in New York is 17. She's claiming he violated that by months...and she's claiming this decades later. My guess is that someone as famous as Allen would have known the law and played it safe. Even in the wild days of the 1970s, they enforced statutory rape laws and would have made him an example. He was too into his career to risk it. Just my opinion.

(12-17-2018 02:49 PM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  Given that she was only 16 years old, I think we can all agree he is definitely a pedophile. No straight, adult man could look at this innocent, virginal young woman and feel lust, impossible*:

<PICTURE CUT OUT OF HERE>

*However, it would be very normal and healthy to wait 15 months until she turned 18, and THEN feel lust. That wouldn't be creepy, but thinking the above woman (really just a child) is hot would be. Just so we're clear.

Here's the thing. This is a case (by her own admission) where he didn't know her age. In the state this occurred the age of consent was 17. She told him she was still in high school but not that she was 16.

Beyond that, she was only 16 for MAYBE a few weeks (again according to her in the article) when they started their relationship. That means he was at worst banging her a few times before it was legal to do so and it was with him unaware.

This is such a nothingburger. She is at least somewhat fair in not wanting to excoriate him for it but simply putting all this out there is a total attention grab. What a crappy human. I'm not saying he's a good person, I don't really know, but she's certainly a crappy person for putting this attention-whoring crap out there.

(12-17-2018 03:37 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  This is such a nothingburger. She is at least somewhat fair in not wanting to excoriate him for it but simply putting all this out there is a total attention grab. What a crappy human. I'm not saying he's a good person, I don't really know, but she's certainly a crappy person for putting this attention-whoring crap out there.

I was mostly joking, I don't think this is a big deal at all (and possibly fictional). Just poking fun at how absurdly puritanical the USA is becoming regarding sex.

There would be feminist riots if a line like this were included in a major movie today, despite it being funny and true:

(12-17-2018 04:24 PM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  

(12-17-2018 03:37 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  This is such a nothingburger. She is at least somewhat fair in not wanting to excoriate him for it but simply putting all this out there is a total attention grab. What a crappy human. I'm not saying he's a good person, I don't really know, but she's certainly a crappy person for putting this attention-whoring crap out there.

I was mostly joking, I don't think this is a big deal at all (and possibly fictional). Just poking fun at how absurdly puritanical the USA is becoming regarding sex.

There would be feminist riots if a line like this were included in a major movie today, despite it being funny and true:

Greatest character of all time. All right, all right, all right.

https://variety.com/2018/biz/news/harvey...90461/amp/

Quote: Harvey Weinstein was hit with a lawsuit Friday from an actress who claims he forcibly performed oral sex on her, repeatedly masturbated in front of her, and threatened to harm her career if she objected.

The suit details that Weinstein claimed he was trying to help her and that he was the gateway to her dreams. It alleges that he said, “I slept with Jennifer Lawrence and look where she is; she has just won an Oscar.”

Lawrence issued a statement on Friday denying that they had a sexual relationship.

“My heart breaks for all the women who were victimized by Harvey Weinstein,” Lawrence said. “I have never had anything but a professional relationship with him. This is yet another example of the predatory tactics and lies that he engaged in to lure countless women.”

According to the suit, Weinstein pushed the plaintiff to the ground during a meeting in his office in 2013. He then removed her underwear and began to perform oral sex, as she started to sob in protest. He then asked, “Do you even want to be an actress?,” according to the suit.

The plaintiff, identified in the suit only as Jane Doe, said she first met Weinstein at the Sundance Film Festival in 2013. She said she went to his suite at the Waldorf Astoria Park City, where Weinstein barged in on her while she was using the bathroom. She said Weinstein pulled down his pants and masturbated, eventually ejaculating on her skirt.

Weinstein’s attorneys have repeatedly denied that he engaged in non-consensual sex, and alleged that his accusers are lying about consensual relations. Weinstein’s representatives did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

I for one totally believe Ms. Lawrence. I mean, just because she took pictures with some guy's load all over her face, and just because her and Weinstein worked together on Silver Linings Playbook, arguably her first superstar role, doesn't mean Weinstein's claims are remotely true. #BelieveAllWomen !

(10-05-2017 06:52 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  If I was a big time Hollywood producer I would definitely require pussy for roles in my films. Notice the gay pedophiles have yet to be hung out to dry, while the heterosexual adult fuckers are under constant assault....

Being a manly man now seems to be a crime, feminists or feminazis accuse of raping them for any reason, now the famous #Metoo is spreading around the world, now in ARgentina accuse even famous actor Juan Darthes of raping a young actress .. . all the group of witches will end up lynching mediatically! even when we have to put up with that of female liberation ...

(12-18-2018 05:37 PM)Felipe Wrote:  

(10-05-2017 06:52 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  If I was a big time Hollywood producer I would definitely require pussy for roles in my films. Notice the gay pedophiles have yet to be hung out to dry, while the heterosexual adult fuckers are under constant assault....

Being a manly man now seems to be a crime, feminists or feminazis accuse of raping them for any reason, now the famous #Metoo is spreading around the world, now in ARgentina accuse even famous actor Juan Darthes of raping a young actress .. . all the group of witches will end up lynching mediatically! even when we have to put up with that of female liberation ...

Leftists do not give a flying fuck about young boys getting raped or molested. They care about the agenda to grab power by any means necessary, and getting women collectively riled up is a great means to do that.

(12-15-2018 05:23 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(12-12-2018 07:38 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  NYT Writer: Cancel Holiday Office Parties So Women Avoid Sexual Harassment

New York Times opinion writer Jennifer Weiner told CBS This Morning hosts that holiday office parties are nothing more than another opportunity for women to be sexually harassed.
In her article titled “The Torture of Dressing for Your Office Holiday Party,” Weiner described the holiday season as “the least wonderful time of the year.”
“Why are we having holiday parties at all?” complained Weiner to Gayle King on Monday morning. “Wouldn’t you rather have an extra $100 in your paycheck than have to put on the Spanx, put on the heels, be social with the guy with, like, the stale coffee breath who’s looking at your backside every time you go to the copier? You know how that is.”
Weiner lamented that while men have it easy with a suit-and-tie “uniform,” women’s dress for office holiday parties is more complicated – particularly since the birth of the “MeToo” movement – because now they must find a balance between professional attire and the desire to look attractive and festive during the holiday season.
“This is such a throwback, though, the suggestion of what I wear is that I’m asking for it,” added Norah O’Donnell. “Why aren’t we focused more on behavior rather than what people are wearing? Why don’t we just have conversation about norms of behavior?”
Co-anchor Bianna Golodryga offered that women would be wise to avoid drinking at holiday office parties....

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/...arassment/


So now the supposed "strong career women" are so soft & fragile, even social parties need to be bubble-wrapped safe-spaces...?

Of course the truth of the matter may lie in the reality of the matter.
Jennifer here, must be wondering why all those guys out there simply can't resist attempting to rape her...

This woman lives in either the Bizarro World or Fantasyland. As an actual human being who lives in the real world, here is what I saw when I used to go to office Christmas parties:

1). Women LIKE to dress up. They LIKE to show they look good. Only in the minds of unattractive female New York Times reporters is this some sort of hardship. Just because she looks fugly in a short skirt doesn't mean everyone does.

2). Women LIKE the opportunity to let their hair down, drink, and flirt. Another reality check: Women are not robots programmed to do billing or analyze credit reports. They're grown-up versions of the girls you knew in college. Most sane ones want to have fun once in a while. Life if more than paper pushing.

What troubles me about all this is that this writer, Jennifer Weiner, has taken something festive and recast it as oppressive and somehow "wrong."

This is very similar to the way fanatical, right-wing bible thumpers used to chastise dancing and rock music as "sinful" (i.e. the movie "Footloose"). I see all of this as a form of social control.

H.L. Mencken: "Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy."

Feminism is ALL about taking things and recasting them backwards.

Men have been fighting for hundreds of thousands of years...being butchered and maimed and burned...to protect women. Feminism says "Men oppress women"

Men have been giving their food/paychecks to women for thousands of years...Feminism says "Men make more money than women do"

Feminism is 100% mental illness. It always was. It was always intended to be. We're just seeing now the end result of 40 long, slow years of careful administration of poison, and just now the effects are becoming visible.

(12-18-2018 02:01 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  https://variety.com/2018/biz/news/harvey...90461/amp/

Quote: Harvey Weinstein was hit with a lawsuit Friday from an actress who claims he forcibly performed oral sex on her, repeatedly masturbated in front of her, and threatened to harm her career if she objected.

The suit details that Weinstein claimed he was trying to help her and that he was the gateway to her dreams. It alleges that he said, “I slept with Jennifer Lawrence and look where she is; she has just won an Oscar.”

Lawrence issued a statement on Friday denying that they had a sexual relationship.

“My heart breaks for all the women who were victimized by Harvey Weinstein,” Lawrence said. “I have never had anything but a professional relationship with him. This is yet another example of the predatory tactics and lies that he engaged in to lure countless women.”

According to the suit, Weinstein pushed the plaintiff to the ground during a meeting in his office in 2013. He then removed her underwear and began to perform oral sex, as she started to sob in protest. He then asked, “Do you even want to be an actress?,” according to the suit.

The plaintiff, identified in the suit only as Jane Doe, said she first met Weinstein at the Sundance Film Festival in 2013. She said she went to his suite at the Waldorf Astoria Park City, where Weinstein barged in on her while she was using the bathroom. She said Weinstein pulled down his pants and masturbated, eventually ejaculating on her skirt.

Weinstein’s attorneys have repeatedly denied that he engaged in non-consensual sex, and alleged that his accusers are lying about consensual relations. Weinstein’s representatives did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

I for one totally believe Ms. Lawrence. I mean, just because she took pictures with some guy's load all over her face, and just because her and Weinstein worked together on Silver Linings Playbook, arguably her first superstar role, doesn't mean Weinstein's claims are remotely true. #BelieveAllWomen !

Actually if you read the article(s) again, even Weinstein never have claimed to have slept with Lawrence. It's this other anonymous plaintiff (Jane Doe) who claims she fucked Weinstein because he told her he had fucked Lawrence and "look where she is now".

In other words whe fucked him for "quid pro quo" but didnt really need to so that just makes her a "quick pro hoe"

(12-17-2018 03:37 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(12-17-2018 02:49 PM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  Given that she was only 16 years old, I think we can all agree he is definitely a pedophile. No straight, adult man could look at this innocent, virginal young woman and feel lust, impossible*:

<PICTURE CUT OUT OF HERE>

*However, it would be very normal and healthy to wait 15 months until she turned 18, and THEN feel lust. That wouldn't be creepy, but thinking the above woman (really just a child) is hot would be. Just so we're clear.

Here's the thing. This is a case (by her own admission) where he didn't know her age. In the state this occurred the age of consent was 17. She told him she was still in high school but not that she was 16.

Beyond that, she was only 16 for MAYBE a few weeks (again according to her in the article) when they started their relationship. That means he was at worst banging her a few times before it was legal to do so and it was with him unaware.

This is such a nothingburger. She is at least somewhat fair in not wanting to excoriate him for it but simply putting all this out there is a total attention grab. What a crappy human. I'm not saying he's a good person, I don't really know, but she's certainly a crappy person for putting this attention-whoring crap out there.

Plus, who knows, the age of consent might have been 16 back them.

(12-18-2018 05:47 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  Feminism is 100% mental illness. It always was. It was always intended to be. We're just seeing now the end result of 40 long, slow years of careful administration of poison, and just now the effects are becoming visible.

This couldn't be more true. I found a gem of cognitive dissonance on Twitter, posted in a thread angry that Betsy Devos might not allow kangaroo courts to destroy young men accused of "rape". Apologies if this has already been posted elsewhere.

Trigger warning: this is one of the most insane takes I have ever read.

"My Rapist Might Not Know He’s a Rapist

I recently had an unpleasant surprise when a friend asked me, “How was it hooking up with ___________?”

Feeling the familiar gut punch at the name and fighting flashbacks to the worst night of my life, I replied, “Well, he raped me. So not great.”

My friend was deeply apologetic for having brought it up.

They also were confused, because my rapist boasted and laughed about our encounter with friends, painting it as a fun, consensual hookup. Meanwhile, I was wrought with devastation.

There was an obvious difference in the way my rapist and I had interpreted the incident, and his response gave little indication of any remorse for the irreparable damage done that night.

A disturbing thought formed: What if he doesn’t know what he’s done?

Is it possible that my rapist doesn’t know he’s a rapist?
........
If I had to guess what caused my rapist’s possible lack of understanding, it would be that in absence of a “yes,” there was also no shouting, “no!” In fact, there was nothing but immobilization.

Without a clear guideline of what consent is, an uninformed individual may perceive this immobilization as consent."

huffingtonpost.com/jess-davidson-/my-rapist-might-not-know-hes-a-rapist_b_9091426.html

You see, feminist comrades, just because you did not commit a crime, and are therefore unaware you committed any crime, does not excuse your criminal actions.

Ooh, I know! We can go after Mark Hamil! Queue the outrage mob! He harassed Carrie Fisher and she must be avenged from the afterlife!

Looks like Weinstein case will go to trial. Judge rejected his lawyer’s request to have case dismissed.

That satire wasn't that great.
Why have 3 non white women as the accusers when it's mostly white women making these allegations?