Post: #151

(10-02-2017 09:26 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 08:29 AM)Only One Man Wrote:  How many liberal democrats do you know that are super into guns?

Texas has plenty of those believe it or not. Mostly in Houston, Dallas, and Austin. Some are even into Open Carry.

Some percentage of black gun nuts are liberal or Democrat as well. I could not guess the % of how many of them are, but it's enough to be noticeable when you go to gun ranges and see what guns they have, then see liberal bumper stickers on their cars.

It's tough to know without exact polling data for people "super into guns" but the Pew Center claims in 2014 that 23% of households with guns are liberal. So it stands to reason that a gun nut percentage would be less than that 23%.

Agreed, way more common than you realize. Anyone else ever banged a chick who isn't especially conservative who - you later discover by her nightstand as she slept - has a Glock for safekeeping?

Even though she's probably never fired it since the day she bought it, would never consider the NRA and probably never tell anyone about it, there are PLENTY of otherwise outwardly leftie women with guns by their side at night.

Why? The single life and the cock carousel left them alone with nothing more than a cat for protection. This is one of the major showstoppers from an outright ban - lefties like the idea, but single spinsters ain't ready to surrender theirs yet.



As for the asshole boomer shooter, that guy was a licensed pilot - not sure when the last time he had a flight physical or flew commercially, but they would have known about any psychiatric meds at some point. Still not sure how "well off" he really was 0 might have been dead ass broke by now.

Post: #152

Post: #153

(10-02-2017 09:15 AM)monsquid Wrote:  https://twitter.com/abbytheodros/status/...6943607808

Twitter commenters have identified the weapon as an AR with a bump fire stock, which apparently uses a custom stock to make civilian AR's fire as if automatic by using the recoil to pull the trigger faster than human can.

I agree with this, it sounded like a bump fire stock to me as well. He may have also had a high capacity magazine or a drum as well.

Drums are a hot issue for sure. Not all gun lovers are big on defending those, including some NRA folks. There is not hunting application for those, just pure recreation for unloading on a target somewhere outdoors. It's a tough sell, like defending civilian ownership of LMGs. Most that have those are usually Class 3 license guys though.

Post: #154

I wouldn't be shocked if he was radicalized by the Maddows, the Colberts, the CNNs, the MSNBCs, etc..

Based on the makeup of the concert goers it's a real possibility.

Post: #155

Yeah...nah. ISIS would claim responsibility for anything because they lost their CIA funded war in Syria and need more propaganda.

Post: #156

(10-02-2017 09:37 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Fresh convert to Islam it seems.

ISIS claimed responsibility.

Seems to be a cultural marxist who after joining Islam took it up a notch.

Unlikely to be a false flag in this case. The globalists don't want war with Islam for now. And they will be hard pressed to suppress the full truth of this today.

Marxists and Islamists are the two biggest terrorists out there in terms of body count and violent ideology.

Seems to be a combination of both. Crazy that Dan Bilzerian almost got shot.

I'm still not sold on ISIS. I would be somewhat suspicious if the MSM runs with this narrative as it will conveniently bolster the notion that travel bans and the like are useless due to 'homegrown' terrorism. All signs still point towards left wing media radicalisation.

Post: #157

Automatic weapons are hard to get, but not impossible, if you have a clean record and a lot of money.




I think this might be the first time in history an automatic weapon has been used in a mass shooting on American soil.

If it comes out that this dude had 10 automatic weapons in his room that's at least 100k worth of weapons, most likely more.

Post: #158

(10-02-2017 06:39 AM)mikado Wrote:  What's your issue? Both are terrorists, and I equally wish them hell on earth and afterlife.
I think this Guy had political motives according To the type of crowd he shoot, and his heavily leftist views

Turns out that the terrorists seem to have converted to your fucking Religion of Peace just a few months before. And he correctly did the right Muslim thing - slaughtering infidels.

Post: #159

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Post: #160

Is there any truth to this you think?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...78941.html

Post: #161

(10-02-2017 09:19 AM)Suits Wrote:  It's just a guess, but I'm suspecting that it would be easier to modify a rifle to fire in full automatic than to buy one that came that way stock.

Depends upon the rifle. Most of the time it's not so simple and would require some level of gun smithing ability, the right parts and the right tools to make it work. Even then reliability would be questionable. The bump stock explanation is much more likely. Watch for an insta-ban on those coming down as well as a change to the regulations that they slipped through in the first place. I think they're crap anyway.

Post: #162

Trump going live.

Post: #163

Stop pushing this IsIs trash. The fact the MSM media is trying to push it seems dubious. Any goat lover in the Middle East can post on a message board that he is IsIs and this guy was one of them. How many mosques in rural Nevada for his guy to weekly prayers?

It's too early. I'd rather focus on this guy being into Rachael Maddow and a hardcore lefty, because this would put the responsibility in MSM that has been adding fuel to the flames of hostilities for over a year now.

Media radicalized this guy, not ISIS.

Let Maddow answer for her fan on her show.
Focus on that stuff.

Once you start talking IsIs it just goes into some black hole and folks will tune it out

Post: #164

(10-02-2017 09:38 AM)Turnus Wrote:  

Absolutely nutty. I want to believe it, but the skeptic in me would want to look into more.

That said, can anyone be shocked? Look at how much flirtation there is everyday with Islam. Black football players showing black power fists and other BN bullshit. Probably half of those retards have Christian crosses on their skin or on gold chains, which is more disgraceful. Europeans cucking their countries to Muslims and letting rapes get out of control.

Liberals in the USA are not immune to this bullshit, because any Antifa-like elements down to Limosine Liberals, like Lebron James or Rachel Maddow are very much pro-Islam.

Post: #165

< I would agree somewhat. Even if he converted to Islam for the oppression, his motives seem to have been created by CNN and company.

Islam came in last and pushed that fucktard over the edge giving him a somewhat religious last excuse to do what he intended to do anyway.

Post: #166

Whole thing doesn't add up because the pattern doesn't make sense.

Remember the House Republicans and Capitol Police who were targeted and shot by a lone Liberal gunman last June at a congressional baseball team practice? This is the only pattern I could think of, but in this case, a Liberal used a much more powerful gun to cut down a number of people at a concert.

Where did he learn to shoot? How did he obtained and bought the guns? What groups - i.e., ISIS or Antifa - promoted and encouraged violence by targeting specific groups (i.e., Trump supporters, white people, Christians, Conservatives, etc.)?

Edited.
Another possibility, but highly doubtful, if he converted to Islam because of the woman he associated with - i.e., "You are all going to die tonight" - could have connections to ISIS, then that would somewhat fit the pattern. Again, I highly doubt it.

Post: #167

(10-02-2017 09:37 AM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 09:26 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 08:29 AM)Only One Man Wrote:  How many liberal democrats do you know that are super into guns?

Texas has plenty of those believe it or not. Mostly in Houston, Dallas, and Austin. Some are even into Open Carry.

Some percentage of black gun nuts are liberal or Democrat as well. I could not guess the % of how many of them are, but it's enough to be noticeable when you go to gun ranges and see what guns they have, then see liberal bumper stickers on their cars.

It's tough to know without exact polling data for people "super into guns" but the Pew Center claims in 2014 that 23% of households with guns are liberal. So it stands to reason that a gun nut percentage would be less than that 23%.

Agreed, way more common than you realize. Anyone else ever banged a chick who isn't especially conservative who - you later discover by her nightstand as she slept - has a Glock for safekeeping?

Even though she's probably never fired it since the day she bought it, would never consider the NRA and probably never tell anyone about it, there are PLENTY of otherwise outwardly leftie women with guns by their side at night.

Why? The single life and the cock carousel left them alone with nothing more than a cat for protection. This is one of the major showstoppers from an outright ban - lefties like the idea, but single spinsters ain't ready to surrender theirs yet.



As for the asshole boomer shooter, that guy was a licensed pilot - not sure when the last time he had a flight physical or flew commercially, but they would have known about any psychiatric meds at some point. Still not sure how "well off" he really was 0 might have been dead ass broke by now.

People who simply own a handgun or shotgun for protection wouldn't qualify as being super into guns. I'm talking about gun nuts. They found 10 other rifles in the guy's hotel room.

Post: #168

< We also should never forget that it could have been a false flag. The more strange coincidences you find, anomalies, mental illnesses of the shooter etc - the more likely that it was a government sponsored operation with the usual end-goal of grabbing the guns.

In this case it won't matter to them that he obtained the gun illegally.

Post: #169

It's relatively unlikely. Unhinged, drugged up BernieBro is the most likely possibility. This guy's kinda that group's demographic much less so Islam which is mainly attractive to Yuppie liberals.

Post: #170

Trump orders flags flown at half-staff

Post: #171

(10-02-2017 09:56 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  < We also should never forget that it could have been a false flag. The more strange coincidences you find, anomalies, mental illnesses of the shooter etc - the more likely that it was a government sponsored operation with the usual end-goal of grabbing the guns.

In this case it won't matter to them that he obtained the gun illegally.

This seems to be the most likely. And not just to grab guns, but to create more chaos, division, and distraction.

Post: #172

(10-02-2017 09:54 AM)Only One Man Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 09:37 AM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 09:26 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 08:29 AM)Only One Man Wrote:  How many liberal democrats do you know that are super into guns?

Texas has plenty of those believe it or not. Mostly in Houston, Dallas, and Austin. Some are even into Open Carry.

Some percentage of black gun nuts are liberal or Democrat as well. I could not guess the % of how many of them are, but it's enough to be noticeable when you go to gun ranges and see what guns they have, then see liberal bumper stickers on their cars.

It's tough to know without exact polling data for people "super into guns" but the Pew Center claims in 2014 that 23% of households with guns are liberal. So it stands to reason that a gun nut percentage would be less than that 23%.

Agreed, way more common than you realize. Anyone else ever banged a chick who isn't especially conservative who - you later discover by her nightstand as she slept - has a Glock for safekeeping?

Even though she's probably never fired it since the day she bought it, would never consider the NRA and probably never tell anyone about it, there are PLENTY of otherwise outwardly leftie women with guns by their side at night.

Why? The single life and the cock carousel left them alone with nothing more than a cat for protection. This is one of the major showstoppers from an outright ban - lefties like the idea, but single spinsters ain't ready to surrender theirs yet.



As for the asshole boomer shooter, that guy was a licensed pilot - not sure when the last time he had a flight physical or flew commercially, but they would have known about any psychiatric meds at some point. Still not sure how "well off" he really was 0 might have been dead ass broke by now.

People who simply own a handgun or shotgun for protection wouldn't qualify as being super into guns. I'm talking about gun nuts. They found 10 other rifles in the guy's hotel room.

To the left, if you own even one, you are indeed a gun nut.

BTW, this incident definitely does a good job of redirecting the focus away from truck attacks, like the one in Edmonton yesterday.

Post: #173

Shocked and disgusted by this senseless tragedy.

Motive? I have my doubts about this "ISIS claim of responsibility." They've tried to play this game before, of taking "responsibility" for things they had nothing to do with. The game is to "confuse and demoralize the Crusaders."

There is nothing I've seen right now to indicate this guy was a convert to Islam or had any religious motivation:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-02...his-motive

He also doesn't seem to fit the profile of a typical radicalized convert. He's older (64), white, and apparently middle class. I'll change my opinion if I see proof that says otherwise, but for now this looks like some marginalized, dysfunctional, rootless person with some grudge against society and people in general. Our society seems to be breeding more and more of these angry loners, and they are starting to explode.

Post: #174

I'm not any defender of Islam. But this doesn't sound like ISIS AT ALL. I think they're trying to salvage what's left of the Democratic party.

Post: #175

Serious. This is her first thought?