Post: #26

(06-27-2017 01:51 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 01:40 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  She does not look so old that IVF would be needed, I wonder what the issue is?

Could be PCOS (which isn't that uncommon), bad eggs (not unknown in young women), or have issues with her uterus (mucus wall too thin) which is generally not age dependent.

It is not likely PCOS because she would have hirsutism and be overweight, Her eggs are likely ok if they were using them for IVF(unless she was using donor eggs..), so I will go with uterine mucuosal issues or progesterone abnormalities as a guess. Still WB though- on an unrelated note that IVF was expensive because her husband has on a fake polo shirt on (There are 2-3 horses running on that shirt).

Post: #27

(06-27-2017 03:11 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  I agree with this.

A white kid deserves white parents, and an Indian kid deserves Indian parents. I hate it when whites adopt Africans and fly them away from their homelands, and I don't like this any better. The adoption isn't about the parents and what they want, it's about the best interests of the kid.
An adoptee has enough problems to deal with already, he doesn't need the additional problems that come with trying to adopt across cultures.

The child they are trying to adopt is in a foster home or orphanage, they would do far better to be in a real home with this couple. If I was an African kid I would much rather be adopted and taken to Western civilization than remain in Africa as an orphan. The kid needs a home and there is not a surplus of people from 2 parent homes looking to take them in.

Post: #28

Personally I see no issue with them adopting white kids. Based on their pictures and their backstory they seem like a legitimate successful, attractive and interesting couple.

I'd imagine most adopted kids would have plenty more fun being adopted by than Joe Fat and his Wife.

It's ridiculous that a White Person can adopt a Black child but other races are blocked from doing the opposite.

Post: #29

(06-27-2017 03:16 PM)BelyyTigr Wrote:  But you must have some pride/interest in your Indian ancestry? Some interest in India doing well etc?
Wouldn't you feel cheated if you'd been adopted by whites over Indians (OK unless they were very rich etc hahaha!)

I do, but when I go to India I realise how "British" I am. My identity is more British than Indian. My sense of humour, tastes in culture are more British than Indian. I might watch 3 or 4 Indian movies in a year, whereas I'll watch 30-50 times more western movies in a year. To be honest with you, I don't get along with many people from India since I find them too judgemental. In the US just about everybody who's spent more than 5 minutes with me considers me British.

(06-27-2017 03:16 PM)BelyyTigr Wrote:  Is it really "bad" that an Indian couple rescue an INDIAN orphan rather than raise an indigeneous British kid? Surely not?

Maybe they don't want to deal with the hassle of international adoption?

(06-27-2017 03:19 PM)BelyyTigr Wrote:  But this case its about making sure someone doesn't lose their identity. Imagine a young Chinese kid adopted by indigeneous Brits when a Chinese couple could have done so. Imagine what that young kid has lost out on.

There's nothing new about a Chinese kids being raised by non-Chinese. Chinese have been giving up their kids for adoption to non-Chinese for years - in Malaysia they used to give their daughters to Malay or Indian families.

Malaysia: How come so many Chinese girls were given up for adoption to Malay families?

Quote:I think, due to poverty and the number of daugthers in that particular family, are the main reasons for adoption. Chinese is a very practical people, if you can not feed your children, just give it away. Malay people is a very compasionate people, someone cannot feed their child, I will take that child and raise her to the best that I can, because we believe for each child there is a provision allocated by Allah to that child.

THE INDIAN COUPLE WHO LOVED CHILDREN

Quote: In Kampar, my grandparents lived among the Chinese community. My grandmother was yearning for a child but they were unsuccessful in bearing a child, so they made a decision to adopt.

During those days, as it was common for Chinese families to preference a boy over a girl, it was not unusual to find Chinese girls being raised by Indian families because of the social stigma.

Soon, my grandparents were known in the community as the Indian couple who loved children. After adopting their first Chinese baby girl, word soon spread about them as doting parents. They were soon asked to adopt more unwanted Chinese babies.

Throughout their life, they adopted nine children - five Chinese girls, two Indian girls, one Indian boy and another mixed-race girl in their later years. My Chinese Mum, Beebi Christina was one of the babies they adopted. Sadly though, two adopted Chinese girls did not survive beyond a few years of age.

My grandparents left a legacy of an "Indianisation" of Chinese girls in Kampar. Whenever they had a family function, people used to be awestruck as all their children had different shades of skin colour.

In 1945, during the Japanese Occupation years, my grandma was reprimanded at the Kampar Railway Station by the Kempeitai (Japanese military soldiers), as she was travelling with my Mum then aged 6. At that time, it was a dangerous time for Chinese people as most of them were targeted and taken into custody.

As the soldiers were trying to grab my Mum, my grandma quickly protested and held onto her tightly. She insisted that my Mum was her own daughter by pointing to my Mum's nose-stud (“mukuthi”) to denote that she is a fair-skin Indian girl.

Luckily for them, the Japanese soldiers were naive and believed my grandmother. Thankfully, they were both released.

Post: #30

(06-27-2017 03:50 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  I'd imagine most adopted kids would have plenty more fun being adopted by than Joe Fat and his Wife.

But the most fun of all would be to get adopted by Fat Joe and his wife. :



Aloha!

Post: #31

I think it's stupid, if the single mother Angelina Jolie can attention whore around the world with her black/red/yellow/green/blue adopted kids, why can't a regular heterosexual Indian couple adopt a white kid?

Oh, and WB.

Post: #32

(06-27-2017 03:35 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  It is not likely PCOS because she would have hirsutism and be overweight,

Just to want point out that PCOS can occur in people without the hirsutism or being overweight. From personal experience, my Aunt has PCOS but does not follow standard presentation we would expect of PCOS patient. The girl in the article could be one of those few outliners of presentation. Then again, we don't have her full medical history for us to judge.

As for the race issue involving adoption, healthy home with mother and father is more important that matching the skin colour of the father and mother to the child. We are seeing a lot of kids these day becoming fucked up adults. One less children being screwed up, the better.

Post: #33

(06-27-2017 03:11 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  I agree with this.

A white kid deserves white parents, and an Indian kid deserves Indian parents. I hate it when whites adopt Africans and fly them away from their homelands, and I don't like this any better. The adoption isn't about the parents and what they want, it's about the best interests of the kid.
An adoptee has enough problems to deal with already, he doesn't need the additional problems that come with trying to adopt across cultures.

Absolutely.

The more I read about trans-racial adoption, the more fucked up it seems. The children are far worse off in every category from drugs to abuse to low education. It's double whammy. First when you discover you were adopted, you have to feel like you were abandoned by your own mother, then you are given this huge guilt of having to feel gratitude to people who doesn't look like you. That has to mess with your head.

In addition, there are genetical hereditary personality traits, nothing to do with race, but you will quite likely be a very different person on key areas than your parents and that will add to the massive confusion and feeling of alienation.

Often the adopted parents will refuse to let children contact their biological parents if still alive (they usually are, despite claims otherwise).

A very common attitude I've seen from adoptive parents is that they "own" the adopted child.

I know there are plenty of successful adoptions, also transracial, but it requires complete honesty and that the adopted parents accept they are actually only guardians or foster parents and will be upfront and ready to help the adoptee reconnect likely during teenage years.

Overall, transracial adoption, not a good idea imo. At its worst it is human trafficing and tricking poor mothers into selling their children.

Post: #34

(06-27-2017 04:54 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 03:11 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  I agree with this.

A white kid deserves white parents, and an Indian kid deserves Indian parents. I hate it when whites adopt Africans and fly them away from their homelands, and I don't like this any better. The adoption isn't about the parents and what they want, it's about the best interests of the kid.
An adoptee has enough problems to deal with already, he doesn't need the additional problems that come with trying to adopt across cultures.

Absolutely.

The more I read about trans-racial adoption, the more fucked up it seems. The children are far worse off in every category from drugs to abuse to low education. It's double whammy. First when you discover you were adopted, you have to feel like you were abandoned by your own mother, then you are given this huge guilt of having to feel gratitude to people who doesn't look like you. That has to mess with your head.

In addition, there are genetical hereditary personality traits, nothing to do with race, but you will quite likely be a very different person on key areas than your parents and that will add to the massive confusion and feeling of alienation.

Often the adopted parents will refuse to let children contact their biological parents if still alive (they usually are, despite claims otherwise).

A very common attitude I've seen from adoptive parents is that they "own" the adopted child.

I know there are plenty of successful adoptions, also transracial, but it requires complete honesty and that the adopted parents accept they are actually only guardians or foster parents and will be upfront and ready to help the adoptee reconnect likely during teenage years.

Overall, transracial adoption, not a good idea imo. At its worst it is human trafficing and tricking poor mothers into selling their children.

Let's take a look at this kid, who is available for adoption in India:



He's naked, filthy, eating what appears to be maggots, in piles of garbage and discarded Crocs.

You guys somehow think its worse for this kid to get adopted by, let's say, two homosexual Caucasian baristas in Seattle?

Aloha!

Post: #35

(06-27-2017 03:11 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  A white kid deserves white parents, and an Indian kid deserves Indian parents. I hate it when whites adopt Africans and fly them away from their homelands, and I don't like this any better. The adoption isn't about the parents and what they want, it's about the best interests of the kid.
An adoptee has enough problems to deal with already, he doesn't need the additional problems that come with trying to adopt across cultures.

So you are suggesting a British couple adopt an Indian and fly them away from their homeland.

Walter_Black is right, lots of Asians are more culturally British now then they are traditionally Indian. India is a foreign country to them, the UK isn't.

The only extra challenge is they'll have to tell the child they are adopted earlier, but some people actually advocate it, so as to preempt teenage "You're not my real dad" tantrums.

Post: #36

(06-27-2017 01:27 PM)kosko Wrote:  If adoption is the route a couple must take I don't have issues with it. Much better to provide a child with a caring home with traditional parents that are committed to it. I have many friends who have ben adopted and their parents made them all the top priority and they turned out fine (aside from the stress of not knowing who their maternal parents were).

This idea of race and adoption is taboo and comes up from time to time. It is taboo in the sense because white parents make up the large bulk of adoptions. Ethnic couples are a small percentage of those who adopt so cases like this creep up. There is an expectation that ethnic parents take on kids of their same background but this is not feasible in many cases and many times these parents just want a healthy kid to take care of. But again, it is taboo, because many white families will request a white kid, so is this just the agency going off their standard protocol? Who knows.

To me, I don't really care who the parents are as long as they want to do a good job and are male and female. The kid also, I don't think it matters as the alternative for the kid is foster care and to end up a fuck up of the public system in that regards.

I personally would think it would be much more smooth to raise a kid up who looks like you but I really don't think it matters. The kid will grow an attachment to whoever is providing it with its care.

I agree with Kosko. Tommy Davidson, the black comedian from Living Color, Booty Call and many more films, is a black guy brought up by white parents (adopted). He appears well put together.

Post: #37

Ultimately the racial angle is more or less irrelevant. Yes it looks funny to have white parents if you're black or vice versa, but as stated multiple times adoptive parents are better than no parents even if they are the wrong color or a pair of butt pirates. However, when it comes to adopting from overseas there is an inherent problem in that essentially its rewarding societies that have failed at the K-selected task of taking care of their own children. You take an r-selected society where people breed out of control and then are able to pawn off the results to the first world with manipulative sad pictures of dirty orphans. So these children of r-selected parents get a good dose of random violence at the youngest age to make sure all those r-selected epigenetic triggers go off, and then ship them to a K-selected society where wealthy infertile couples expend massive resources to raise their little precious and his attachment disorder.

It's actually the perfect reproductive strategy for rabbits: zero investment into offspring, promulgate rabbit genetics, but the offspring sent to the wolf society aren't subject to high mortality and can infest the wolf society with those rabbit genes.

Post: #38

(06-27-2017 01:40 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  She does not look so old that IVF would be needed, I wonder what the issue is?

He should let me fuck her and see if she gets pregnant.....

That's exactly my kind of thinking.

I will offer to bang her as well - I am very fertile, white, high IQ.
Atlanta Man can give them a mixed baby, so they have some variety in their kids - happy multicultural family.

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On a serious note - I would recommend them to adopt from India or China. Do an IQ test. There are exceptions with white kids ready for adoption, but unfortunately in the West many kids available are from really pathological families of the lowest caliber.

In poorer countries like China or India you can however find children from families who would be middle-class if transported to the West. So you may actually be able to find a saner child.

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As for the law - yeah - it is not that fair, but seems to be some kind of remnant of more ethnic orientation of old times. I would keep the law, because the law is primed for so much fucking multiculturalism and anti-White policies in the West, that you have almost to be happy if there is something left.

The Indian bloke and couple looks fine - he should let one of us have a go at his wife. I am sure that there are some Indian RVF members who would happily help out as well.

Post: #39

The issue here is supply.

In the UK I would imagine that there is a number of minority orphans up for adoption. Does this couple actually have a preference for a white kid over Asian kids? Are there Asian kids in the UK up for adoption who are having a harder time getting placed than white kids? If that is the case, then it makes sense for adoption agencies to encourage Indian couples to take them on.

Post: #40

I don't see a problem with this at all. I know plenty of Indian kids who are adopted and none seems to be worse for it. They are all very educated and seem to be doing well for themselves.

Post: #41

(06-27-2017 05:15 PM)Kona Wrote:  Let's take a look at this kid, who is available for adoption in India:



He's naked, filthy, eating what appears to be maggots, in piles of garbage and discarded Crocs.

You guys somehow think its worse for this kid to get adopted by, let's say, two homosexual Caucasian baristas in Seattle?

Aloha!

Correct, that it would be better, but you have to remember the new mental sickness.

What about two lesbian mothers and they convince the boy to start gender-reassignment proceedings at age 7?

Is that equivalent then, have his dick cut off at age 10 and then live a miserable life as an Eunuch and nitwit?

I would frankly take the common sense approach -

1) Stable conventional parents of similar/identical race get first picks
2) Second choice parents of different race / background
3) Third choice homosexual couples - so essentially if no normal parents would get them, then 2 gay dads in SanFran are legion better than this
4) All believers in gender crap should be barred from adoption - this is pure mental sickness and you would not let a pedophile, convicted cannibal or murderer/rapist adopt a child either

Post: #42

(06-27-2017 05:42 PM)KC4 Wrote:  I don't see a problem with this at all. I know plenty of Indian kids who are adopted and none seems to be worse for it. They are all very educated and seem to be doing well for themselves.

Confirms my theory. I know some adopted white kids from pathological families and almost all have massive problems - even loving parents could not solve them in most cases.

Kids from third world countries however are sometimes only plagued by poverty and not pathology/low state of consciousness. Stable parents and good upbringing can certainly solve that.

Post: #43

(06-27-2017 05:15 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 04:54 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 03:11 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  I agree with this.

A white kid deserves white parents, and an Indian kid deserves Indian parents. I hate it when whites adopt Africans and fly them away from their homelands, and I don't like this any better. The adoption isn't about the parents and what they want, it's about the best interests of the kid.
An adoptee has enough problems to deal with already, he doesn't need the additional problems that come with trying to adopt across cultures.

Absolutely.

The more I read about trans-racial adoption, the more fucked up it seems. The children are far worse off in every category from drugs to abuse to low education. It's double whammy. First when you discover you were adopted, you have to feel like you were abandoned by your own mother, then you are given this huge guilt of having to feel gratitude to people who doesn't look like you. That has to mess with your head.

In addition, there are genetical hereditary personality traits, nothing to do with race, but you will quite likely be a very different person on key areas than your parents and that will add to the massive confusion and feeling of alienation.

Often the adopted parents will refuse to let children contact their biological parents if still alive (they usually are, despite claims otherwise).

A very common attitude I've seen from adoptive parents is that they "own" the adopted child.

I know there are plenty of successful adoptions, also transracial, but it requires complete honesty and that the adopted parents accept they are actually only guardians or foster parents and will be upfront and ready to help the adoptee reconnect likely during teenage years.

Overall, transracial adoption, not a good idea imo. At its worst it is human trafficing and tricking poor mothers into selling their children.

Let's take a look at this kid, who is available for adoption in India:



He's naked, filthy, eating what appears to be maggots, in piles of garbage and discarded Crocs.

You guys somehow think its worse for this kid to get adopted by, let's say, two homosexual Caucasian baristas in Seattle?

Aloha!

He's eating rice Kona, not maggots, although that would actually be a great source of proteins.

His odds of getting sexually abused if adopted by gay parents are about 9x higher IIRC, so he might be better off growing up in the slums of India.

https://ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11501300
http://www.wnd.com/2002/04/13722/

Post: #44

(06-27-2017 05:15 PM)Kona Wrote:  Let's take a look at this kid, who is available for adoption in India:



He's naked, filthy, eating what appears to be maggots, in piles of garbage and discarded Crocs.

The kid is not eating maggots - that's a type of rice. Even poor Indians don't eat maggots.

One of my Indian born and raised distant uncles (now resident in UK) adopted a beggar kid in India in the 1960s before he moved to the UK.

He couldn't bring the kid to UK since he had no paperwork, so his adopted son is still in India. My uncle has 2 daughters who are born and raised in UK who see this guy as their brother. The adopted son is still in India and now in his 40s and is totally fine.

Post: #45

(06-27-2017 05:47 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Correct, that it would be better, but you have to remember the new mental sickness.

What about two lesbian mothers and they convince the boy to start gender-reassignment proceedings at age 7?

Is that equivalent then, have his dick cut off at age 10 and then live a miserable life as an Eunuch and nitwit?

Come on, how often does that happen. Let's spend 25k to adopt akid, then let's pressure him to chop his dick off. No.

Forget I said homos at all. Let's stick with the racial purity aspect.

Its way worse, these guys say, to adopt trans racially because of all the problems the kid may have because of it. Get he hell out of here.

So an Indian kid adopted by whitefolks in Tennessee is always gonna feel out of lace and maybe smokes some method because of it. But he's got access to schools and doctors and rehabs and whatnot.

Whereas its better to just leave him in India so they can burn his eyeball out to be a better beggar and die at 16 because hey, racial purity!

Think about it.

Aloha!

Post: #46

(06-27-2017 06:00 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 05:47 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Correct, that it would be better, but you have to remember the new mental sickness.

What about two lesbian mothers and they convince the boy to start gender-reassignment proceedings at age 7?

Is that equivalent then, have his dick cut off at age 10 and then live a miserable life as an Eunuch and nitwit?

Come on, how often does that happen. Let's spend 25k to adopt akid, then let's pressure him to chop his dick off. No.

Forget I said homos at all. Let's stick with the racial purity aspect.

Its way worse, these guys say, to adopt trans racially because of all the problems the kid may have because of it. Get he hell out of here.

So an Indian kid adopted by whitefolks in Tennessee is always gonna feel out of lace and maybe smokes some method because of it. But he's got access to schools and doctors and rehabs and whatnot.

Whereas its better to just leave him in India so they can burn his eyeball out to be a better beggar and die at 16 because hey, racial purity!

Think about it.

Aloha!

Never said that.

I would all couples adopt, just at different stages.

Gay couples have 800% more likelihood of sexual abuse - that makes them automatically second best option - there are other metrics.

But I would still let them do it after there are not takers from hetero ones.

The racial aspect is the least important. Sure - I would give preference to a mixed Indian couple to an Indian kid, but if a white or black couple wants them, then they should get them.

In fact as I said - I would expect them to have more trouble with Western adopted children than many third world ones.

Post: #47

(06-27-2017 01:49 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 01:18 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 01:16 PM)Baphomet Wrote:  I'm trying to imagine how I could possibly care less.

Oh, and WB.

You cared enough to comment about it

All pictures of bangable women on RVF are fair game for a WB/WNB post.

Oh, and WB.

Fixed.

WB.

Post: #48

The fundamental factor in play is that the child should have access to as normal a life as possible.

A life which didn't involve that awkward question hanging over them whenever they introduced their parents to someone.

"Are you taking the piss?"

Having said that, you're almost certainly still better off being raised by well screened adoptive parents of a different race than being stuck under state care and ending up in a Sorosian sex-toy/organ-donor meat grinder.

Post: #49

delete.

The nazi weighed in.

Post: #50

(06-27-2017 05:40 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 01:40 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  She does not look so old that IVF would be needed, I wonder what the issue is?

He should let me fuck her and see if she gets pregnant.....

That's exactly my kind of thinking.

I will offer to bang her as well - I am very fertile, white, high IQ.
Atlanta Man can give them a mixed baby, so they have some variety in their kids - happy multicultural family.

Id volunteer to provide the half Hispanic kid to the collection but only if I got to go before Atl Man

(06-09-2017 04:22 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 04:12 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  My two cents:

Don't do it to yourself. I have fucked many hot girls that were roommates with a dude that that they friendzoned after moving in with him. Imagine waking up Sunday morning and going to make breakfast and a large, half naked, half negro is there drinking the last of the orange juice (with vodka because he is not done partying from the night before), saying hello to you awkwardly before going upstairs to have round five of first night sex with your hot roommate-Don't let it happen, don't let her move in.

Especially demoralizing if it's the lower half that's naked and negro