Post: #51

While anyone who immigrates to this country should absolutely make a full effort to learn English, that doesn't mean it's a good idea to accost a stranger you observe speaking another language. You don't know that individual's situation. He could've just recently immigrated and be in the early stages of leaning English. He could be a tourist rather than an immigrant. He could know English but be speaking to someone who doesn't, as in this situation. It's idiotic to assume that the person you hear speaking Spanish must be some asshole who's making no attempt to assimilate.

Put more succinctly, just mind your own damn business.

That said, I suspect the white guy in this video is disabled mentally as well as physically, and egging on that little outburst of his was wrong too.

Post: #52

(05-24-2017 04:05 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(05-24-2017 02:42 PM)Veloce Wrote:  There's 2 sides to this though. I work with some Mexicans that have been in this country for 15 YEARS and can barely say 10 words in English. It pisses me the fuck off.

There's two sides are because one of the people is white. Let's blame his wheelchair or recent gambling losses instead of just saying he's a racist asshole. Let's not admit people like him exist. Let's put some of the blame on the brown people.

Did you watch the video? The guy clearly speaks Spanish and English. Do bilingual people piss you the fuck off?

White people don't have to deal with folks like the wheelchair guy. I wish it was somehow possible so some of you could understand how infuriating it is. Minding his own business waiting for a plane some asshole comes up and starts shit. But, let's blame the brown guy.

Aloha!

Relax dude. Did you miss the part where I refer to the dude in a wheelchair as a piece of shit? I deal with people like him every day. Fuck him

As far as bilinguals go, I'm pretty fluent in Spanish, so no. I do work with plenty of latinos that know this and take advantage of it by refusing to learn or speak English to me, so fuck them too.

I realize that doesn't relate to the video, but as you can see there's plenty of people out there sick and tired of going about their day around people who live or frequent the U.S. and refuse to even attempt to learn the official language here.

Post: #53

(05-24-2017 04:46 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(05-24-2017 04:20 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(05-24-2017 04:05 PM)Kona Wrote:  White people don't have to deal with folks like the wheelchair guy. I wish it was somehow possible so some of you could understand how infuriating it is. Minding his own business waiting for a plane some asshole comes up and starts shit. But, let's blame the brown guy.

Half a dozen times in my teen years, I was at a suburban train station near Paris, minding my own business waiting for a train; some racist migrant assholeS come up and start shit and assault me and rob my belongings. But, let's blame the white guy.

See Kona, you're sometimes suffering from verbal, racist aggression (which is bad), but we native Europeans ("Caucasians") sometimes suffer from physical, racist muggings... Please keep that in mind: not just you "brown" people occasionally suffer from racism, we white people also suffer from racism, at times.

But MSM refuse to acknowledge our pledge. That's the problem, all kinds of racism should be exposed and denounced, not only the official-racism fitting the narrative.

OK. So white people getting beat up at train stations in Paris is yet another reason why this guy waiting at the airport in Las Vegas is at fault here. Makes sense.

Parisian migrant train muggings, gambling losses, wheelchairs, and Mexicans in the kitchen all mean this guy waiting in the airport should be called a spick and its his own fault. Got it.

Aloha!

You are disingenuous. I never said that "migrants" muggings justify a dude being called "a spick" on the other side of the world.

I said that what you called "brown" people, usually only care about the racism they sometimes are faced with (verbal insults), and do not care at all about the very concrete racism (muggings) other ethnicities suffer. Focusing (encouraged by MSM) on his own (limited) suffering, brushing aside the suffering of others, it's alas all too common.

Post: #54

The only thing that gets me worked up about my neighbors to the south is they are sending too many of these...



and not enough of these...




Well, maybe the drug violence too. But that is the US gov't prohibition's fault, not thiers.

Post: #55

I'd like to keep the discussion about language tolerance if possible. IMO, the language issue transcends other issues in the video clip. For better or worse, the influence of Spanish and other languages is upon us like never before. I don't see this changing and it's a matter of adaptation moving forward. If nothing else, I think the younger generation is more tolerant of other languages and more willing to be multi-lingual. In addition, increased relocation and long term travel by Americans to non English speaking countries has also influenced this tolerance. I don't have data to substantiate any of this, but it is my gut feeling. At the same time, you can't teach an old dog new tricks is the old adage and I think there will be resentment towards other languages and a desire by some Americans in and out of the USA to have others value English like they value US currency for some time.

Post: #56

This is one of those Americans that gives Americans a bad name around the world. This is the dumb fuck that foreigners refer to as "uncultured" and they're right. He probably took a trip down to Mexico at some point in his life and complained that no one there speaks English either.

There are some Americans like this guy. They believe that everyone and anyone in the world has to speak English. I knew a guy who came back from France and complained about the lack of English competency there. I thought, "Yea, you asswipe, maybe you should've made an effort to learn a few of their basic phrases?"

Post: #57

If you really want to piss off a French Canadian, tell them to speak white and see what happens.

Something similar happened to me recently in Medellin, I was hanging outside my hotel with two other RVF members, I was sitting down and they were standing, as we were talking (in English) a guy approached us and said in English "you don't speak Spanish", I got up and said "si hablo espanol" and he kept saying we don't speak English, so I got in his face and called him a faggot (in Spanish) and asked him what he was going to do several times, he just kept backing up because he was a gutless faggot who probably didn't expect a gringo to talk back to him. Fortunately that's a rare occurance down there.

Post: #58

(05-25-2017 10:28 AM)scotian Wrote:  If you really want to piss off a French Canadian, tell them to speak white and see what happens.

Something similar happened to me recently in Medellin, I was hanging outside my hotel with two other RVF members, I was sitting down and they were standing, as we were talking (in English) a guy approached us and said in English "you don't speak Spanish", I got up and said "si hablo espanol" and he kept saying we don't speak English, so I got in his face and called him a faggot (in Spanish) and asked him what he was going to do several times, he just kept backing up because he was a gutless faggot who probably didn't expect a gringo to talk back to him. Fortunately that's a rare occurance down there.

That is why language is an ingroup preference and nations were created often on those lines.

Guys here should stop seeing it as something outrageously negative. As I said before - both were dicks. They were dicks, because it would be seen as insanely racist and bad if scotian had now taken out his phone and started recording the Colombian guy about his anti-American anti-White stance. What would you think if scotian then went to the net and TV stations and lambasted how racist Colombians are and are getting offended because a group of men are talking English to each other?

Only Whites get shit like that despite the fact that most tribes in the world behave like that if a foreigner group pisses them off. In that case it was a Colombian being pissed about gringos having a better life and banging their girls. In the US it is the poorer folk who get pissed about immigrants undercutting their wages, putting wage pressure on and taking their jobs while there are few jobs to go around anyway. Also the anti-White sentiment gets to them. The same guy would not be reacting that way to a Swede, because the Swedes are not doing anything to him (in his mind).

Either way guys - realize who is at fault here. One hint - it is not only the wheelchair guy. This anti-Western sentiment is responsible for giving that other dude even a means to go on the outrage-offensive. Scotian with his incident - which by the way could have become far more dangerous to him - he would be lambasted for being a terrible racist if he raised a fuss over this.

That is the reality of things - the globalists have shifted the narrative that much that even men here don't realize how far the anti-Western pendulum has swung.

Also on another note - this is not a uniquely American behavior. The British and Western Europeans react occasionally the same way when they hear Eastern European languages (because they too exert wage pressure in their countries if they are there in high enough numbers). They are less offended by Arabs strangely, probably because they expect Arabs to be aggressive (correct) and many Arabs don't work so there is no actual competition. But you can also observe this in behavior of passive-aggressive Koreans who give Western men shit (likely because of pussy-angst) and also with Japanese men. And I am mostly talking about a certain sub-group of men - in some countries way more of them than in others. As a rule Americans are quite liberal and forthcoming, but patience runs thin at 15% real unemployment.

Post: #59

(05-24-2017 10:00 PM)Veloce Wrote:  Relax dude.

(05-25-2017 04:57 AM)Going strong Wrote:  You are disingenuous.

I have been told privately that the humor and sarcasm I intended did not show through in my previous posts in this thread. Upon rereading them myself, I agree with such a statement. In fact, they don't even make sense to me. It is possible a portion of what I intended to type was cut out for some reason, possibly by errant cutting and pasting.

This is no excuse. It was never my intention to appear angry, or to trivialize the injustices any group of people face at the hands of others. In this case, whitefolks.

As stated in other threads, I love white people. I have many white friends.

Aloha!

Post: #60

(05-25-2017 03:58 PM)Kona Wrote:  I have been told privately that the humor and sarcasm I intended did not show through in my previous posts in this thread. Upon rereading them myself, I agree with such a statement. In fact, they don't even make sense to me. It is possible a portion of what I intended to type was cut out for some reason, possibly by errant cutting and pasting.

This is no excuse. It was never my intention to appear angry, or to trivialize the injustices any group of people face at the hands of others. In this case, whitefolks.

As stated in other threads, I love white people. I have many white friends.

Aloha!

Or put it like Atlanta Man - "I love White people - especially the tight 18yo white girls."

Post: #61

Don't speak Chinese around this "Canadian"




Another physically (possibly mentally) handicapped person goes on a rant against people who don't speak English, although she didn't randomly berate these people like the guy in the OP did, she was frustrated that the food service workers couldn't help her in English, its still pretty rude.

Post: #62

(06-05-2017 11:29 AM)scotian Wrote:  Don't speak Chinese around this "Canadian"




Another physically (possibly mentally) handicapped person goes on a rant against people who don't speak English, although she didn't randomly berate these people like the guy in the OP did, she was frustrated that the food service workers couldn't help her in English, its still pretty rude.

"if you're gonna work here, it's THE LAW to speak English"

She wasn't as nuts as the guy in the OP, but still cunty like you said. I will say this though: Chinese people....please.....learn the fucking language if you're gonna live in the US/Canada. Highest IQs in the world and we still can't understand a word you're saying - that's a problem.

Post: #63

I think that everyone who makes no effort to learn other language is a closed minded selfish person who chooses to live in his bubble.

This applies to both immigrants who don't put effort to learn the language of their host country and to natives who think the world owes to them to bring everything translated on a platter.

People who know only one language tend to be the real racists and supremacists - I have observed this in Russians, Americans, Mexicans ,Arabs, anyone - the bigger the country the more likely people will be like that. People who know only one language have the blindest form of nationalism and sense of supremacy even if their country is a relative shithole compared to others.

The person who speaks more languages is almost always the most experienced and most intellectual and the one who is right in these conflicts. If the conflict is between two dumb asses who both cannot speak to each other and think the other party is guilty for this situation - then both parties are losers.

Post: #64

She's definitely rude and over the top.

This being said, in Canada and much of blue state US, there is remarkably little friction and blowback from the rapidly shrinking white majority. Even as a sinophile who's pretty fond of their culture, the scale and pace of this dilution in a place like Vancouver, the largest metropole in western Canada, is a bit staggering. You wouldn't see anything like this in reverse in east Asian cities.




Visible minority composition of recent immigrant household heads in Canada’s 7 largest metropoles, 1971-2001 (I would guess the graph for Vancouver today would be one huge beige bar)

Post: #65

(06-05-2017 07:05 PM)911 Wrote:  Even as a sinophile who's pretty fond of their culture, the scale and pace of this dilution in a place like Vancouver, the largest metropole in western Canada, is a bit staggering.

You wouldn't see anything like this in reverse in east Asian cities.

No, they won't allow it.

There have been Westerners living in China, for example, throughout the last 200 years. But the periods of time where foreigners were free to travel wherever they wished in the country have been rare and during most of this history, they were confined to trade port cities, such as Hong Kong, Shanghai and Tianjin.

There have been ties where all non-Chinese have been forcibly removed from the country.

Outside of Hong Kong, no Western person has roots in mainland China.

They won't allow Permanent Residency or Naturalization.



The history in the West is quite different. In the US and Canada, the Chinese who arrived were peasants and were committed to staying. They wanted a better life than periodic starvation.

The Westerners who went to Asia did so to trade...not do other people's laundry.

Perhaps if all non-Westerners had been periodically purged from the US and Canada, things would be different now, but as that never happened, there are plenty of Chinese (and other Asian ethnicities) who are just as American/Canadian as you and I.

With that being the case, it would be pretty difficult to restrict the immigration of other visible minorities.

Westerners in East Asia, outside of Hong Kong, have no real foothold.

If you are interested, however, you can work/study in HK for 7 years after-which, permanent residency is a pretty straightforward process.

There's no shortage of ethnic Indians living and working (legally) in Hong Kong. Many are citizens who were born and grew up there. There's also a lot of recent refugees. For most Indians, Hong Kong has been a step up in standard of living for many, many years, so it's no surprise that many moved their in the last few decades (or earlier) doing whatever work was necessary to establish themselves.

As well, there's the Taiwanese option, where PR or citizenship is routinely granted after 5 years on residency on a work/investment visa.

However, for most Westerners, Hong Kong/Taiwan wouldn't represent a step up in standard of living long term. For many, the requirement to give up your birth citizenship in exchange for Taiwanese citizenship might be viewed as a step backwards.

There are some from the US/Canada who are taking this step, but I doubt it is going to be in large numbers any time soon.

If there was a large scale event (war, etc) that significantly reduced living standards in first world western nations, you could expect those numbers to go up, just as a ton of Dutch left their families behind in Europe and moved to Canada/The US after WWII.

Things were rough enough in Europe that leaving behind everything, including family, was a good option.

Things aren't bad enough in North America for most people to seriously consider doing so.