@chemistry - I joined it recently and had some girl hound me, asking me if I was local.

My page is pretty good, I might have to review the IG thread to improve it.

Long time lurker here. I thought this was an interesting post on TO I found:
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Soooo I saw this thread when googling: where to meet the hottest women in toronto, and I just have to say that what I'm seeing here screams: i suck with girls! Let me introduce myself. I've lived in toronto my entire life. In the last year I began approaching women pretty much everywhere. I can give you a comprehensive overview of every type of girl you could ever want to find, I know where specific "types" of girls are more densely populated. That, and I know at what time these girls tend to populate the areas more. However I don't feel like it would help anyone here one bit. I've approached A LOT of girls here, and yeah occasionally I can see the that the girls here can be a bit rude (you guys think a girl rejecting you in a club is bad, try younge street close to the eaton centre on a monday at 4 o'clock where some won't even stop to talk to you). However as a whole the girls in toronto aren't really that stuck up. What i hear on this forum is a lot of people making excuses for getting rejected over and over again, therefore in order to distance yourselves from rejection you're saying that the women here are "stuck up", or "snobby" or whatever. Most of you will deny this, but its true. I know this because I have approached every "type" of woman there is in the city, from the cool laid back artsy girls to the sophisticated office girls, from girls in colleges to women working on bay street. And everything in between. The women of Toronto aren't stuck up, they just have STANDARDS. Seriously when I run around this city, its like there is literally no competition here. Lots of girls have told me they have boyfriends, only for them to dial their phone numbers in my phone minutes later. In clubs I'm able to literally RIP girls away from guys twice my size and either they do nothing or get butthurt & try to fight, either way the girl is mine. The girls here want a champion. They want a guy that can look past their initial resistant bitchy attitudes. Why do they give that? Well if they're too nice to some guys those guys start thinking they like them and then they start overcomplicating everything. So they have to be mean to get rid of the guys that are just being nice cause they wanna get some. Can you really blame them? Okay now where am I going? Point of this little rant is that it is not the girls per se (yes I'll agree some can be a bit difficult, but if you hang in there long enough they also eventually turn around, the bitchiest girls are usually the nicest after an hour or two, or really hot sex), it has more to do with the way YOU are presenting yourself to them. So from a guy that has walked up to quite a few girls in his time let me give you all some pointers:

1. Stop trying to be james bond. I can't tell you how many dudes talk to these girls holding their drinks up against their chest, talking about how they're marketers of some kind, trying to look all cool with their $1500 watches, and the designer shirts, etc... I walk up to these girls saying "I love you", then go for a hug lift them up and walk them away. Be yourself and have fun. Girls just want FUN.

2. BE LOUDER. In a club you need to project your voice. Your voice is who you are, she won't pay attention if you can't even get over the music.

3. Try smiling. Seriously, **** is like magic.

4. When they start giving you the "biotch treatment", simply stand there and laugh at them. Call them cute for doing it. Tell them you love that. Whatever you like, just don't run away after she starts being mean. If she's being a ***** it means she likes you, that's her way of playing with you, play back.

5. If she starts ignoring you then there's two things you can do. You can snap your fingers and literally tell her to focus (sounds strange but it works), and consider lowering the bar for what you'll talk about. Here's most guys game: hi im andy, whats your name? what do you do? do you come here often? thats cool, i sell real estate? yeah the markets down. oh you gotta go to your friends, okay bye.

heres me: YOU THERE! YES YOU, I LIKE YOUR HAIR, COME HERE LET ME MESS IT UP. *proceeds to mess up hair*. I LOVE YOU WHATS YOUR NAME. AWESOME. *HI FIVE* AND WHERE DO YOU HAIL FROM? OMG I LOVE THAT PLACE *makeout*


Toronto is a great city, I can't stand people dissing it, if girls don't like you here then guess what, you go almost any other cities and the only difference in your "success" with them is that the ways of being rejected are slightly different. Hope i helped



Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/toronto/1...z4GkB3Abzt

Ok so to pull girls at clubs in Tdot, you just have to scream at them, hug them and tell them you love them and mess up their hair, gotchya!

(08-08-2016 08:07 AM)lake Wrote:  Long time lurker here. I thought this was an interesting post on TO I found:
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Soooo I saw this thread when googling: where to meet the hottest women in toronto, and I just have to say that what I'm seeing here screams: i suck with girls! Let me introduce myself. I've lived in toronto my entire life. In the last year I began approaching women pretty much everywhere. I can give you a comprehensive overview of every type of girl you could ever want to find, I know where specific "types" of girls are more densely populated. That, and I know at what time these girls tend to populate the areas more. However I don't feel like it would help anyone here one bit. I've approached A LOT of girls here, and yeah occasionally I can see the that the girls here can be a bit rude (you guys think a girl rejecting you in a club is bad, try younge street close to the eaton centre on a monday at 4 o'clock where some won't even stop to talk to you). However as a whole the girls in toronto aren't really that stuck up. What i hear on this forum is a lot of people making excuses for getting rejected over and over again, therefore in order to distance yourselves from rejection you're saying that the women here are "stuck up", or "snobby" or whatever. Most of you will deny this, but its true. I know this because I have approached every "type" of woman there is in the city, from the cool laid back artsy girls to the sophisticated office girls, from girls in colleges to women working on bay street. And everything in between. The women of Toronto aren't stuck up, they just have STANDARDS. Seriously when I run around this city, its like there is literally no competition here. Lots of girls have told me they have boyfriends, only for them to dial their phone numbers in my phone minutes later. In clubs I'm able to literally RIP girls away from guys twice my size and either they do nothing or get butthurt & try to fight, either way the girl is mine. The girls here want a champion. They want a guy that can look past their initial resistant bitchy attitudes. Why do they give that? Well if they're too nice to some guys those guys start thinking they like them and then they start overcomplicating everything. So they have to be mean to get rid of the guys that are just being nice cause they wanna get some. Can you really blame them? Okay now where am I going? Point of this little rant is that it is not the girls per se (yes I'll agree some can be a bit difficult, but if you hang in there long enough they also eventually turn around, the bitchiest girls are usually the nicest after an hour or two, or really hot sex), it has more to do with the way YOU are presenting yourself to them. So from a guy that has walked up to quite a few girls in his time let me give you all some pointers:

1. Stop trying to be james bond. I can't tell you how many dudes talk to these girls holding their drinks up against their chest, talking about how they're marketers of some kind, trying to look all cool with their $1500 watches, and the designer shirts, etc... I walk up to these girls saying "I love you", then go for a hug lift them up and walk them away. Be yourself and have fun. Girls just want FUN.

2. BE LOUDER. In a club you need to project your voice. Your voice is who you are, she won't pay attention if you can't even get over the music.

3. Try smiling. Seriously, **** is like magic.

4. When they start giving you the "biotch treatment", simply stand there and laugh at them. Call them cute for doing it. Tell them you love that. Whatever you like, just don't run away after she starts being mean. If she's being a ***** it means she likes you, that's her way of playing with you, play back.

5. If she starts ignoring you then there's two things you can do. You can snap your fingers and literally tell her to focus (sounds strange but it works), and consider lowering the bar for what you'll talk about. Here's most guys game: hi im andy, whats your name? what do you do? do you come here often? thats cool, i sell real estate? yeah the markets down. oh you gotta go to your friends, okay bye.

heres me: YOU THERE! YES YOU, I LIKE YOUR HAIR, COME HERE LET ME MESS IT UP. *proceeds to mess up hair*. I LOVE YOU WHATS YOUR NAME. AWESOME. *HI FIVE* AND WHERE DO YOU HAIL FROM? OMG I LOVE THAT PLACE *makeout*


Toronto is a great city, I can't stand people dissing it, if girls don't like you here then guess what, you go almost any other cities and the only difference in your "success" with them is that the ways of being rejected are slightly different. Hope i helped



Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/toronto/1...z4GkB3Abzt

Ah... and the cycle continues about this wonderful city of ours!! The Guy who wrote this is still in the "I'm happy to be talking to Girls phase" of Pick Up. We've all been there, when you're feeling on top of the world after getting some digits (or a hug from a chick with Giant tits But after he tries to unsuccessfully Get it in a couple of times, AND travels... then he'll get it. But for now fellas, how about we let him bask in his glory shall we

I was in Tdot last week for stopover day, the talent didn't look so bad downtown around the ferry, tons of people playing pokemon go with some cute asian girls sprinkled in. There's a lot of fat chicks, but they're mostly older. Girls around the college age or up to 30 looked pretty good downtown. What really surprised me was the ethnic diversity of it all, tons of cute ethnic girls, saw some really hot black girls too.

The post is part of a long discussion thread about TO that was written in 2013. I think it is one of the most in depth and interesting threads on TO so far. Definitely worth a read to understand the broader reasons why TO is the way it is.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/toronto/1...ronto.html

Good morning Lake.....welcome to the forum. I'm a newbie here too.

I don't want to come across as critical of you....but talking of scooping up involved women and out white Knighting other guys to score are things I will never do......even if it costs me the opportunity to bang the hottest woman on earth.

And guys may label themselves "players".....but that behavior to me is allowing these Toronto broads to lessen what THEY bring to the table for a guy as long as they're the ones with the option to have men at their disposal.

Nearly all these women I meet the main thing they seem to talk of in terms of what makes them appealing is the amount of attention they draw from guys and all things guys have done to be with them.

Torontos only hope of changing is when guys as a whole start holding women to a STANDARD of what they can bring to the table as a whole other than being a piece of fine ass.

Of course I'm not holding my breath for that and am content to find my niche for the time I'm here til I'm overseas.

(08-08-2016 09:31 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  Ah... and the cycle continues about this wonderful city of ours!! The Guy who wrote this is still in the "I'm happy to be talking to Girls phase" of Pick Up. We've all been there, when you're feeling on top of the world after getting some digits (or a hug from a chick with Giant tits But after he tries to unsuccessfully Get it in a couple of times, AND travels... then he'll get it. But for now fellas, how about we let him bask in his glory shall we

Getting #s means mostly jack shit to me with the flakiness of women (my biggest gripe with TDOT women) here. And I know with the right set up, a few guys in Toronto are by passing all this back n forth b/s of lessening their bitch shields (why any many revels in breaking them out of that I don't know) and banging these women within a week.

These broads will almost always "I've been so busy with blah-blah-blah". As if they live some sophisticated life like they're in charge or a country or some bullshit. With Whatsapp and the log in time, I can even clearly see I've sent them a message and they just skipped it. I have some girls I had some vacation fun with living 1000s of miles on another continent that don't even speak English that I haven't seen in years, I send them a message every odd month or week or so to say what's up and within the day or hour I hear back.

But a lazy Toronto puta living in my neck of the woods can't even reply to a potential meetup for a drink or hello?

Guys here that "think" they're playing the game great and boast openly of their exploits are just as bad or worse than these broads here......that's partly why I hardly roll with anyone here.

(08-08-2016 09:31 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

(08-08-2016 08:07 AM)lake Wrote:  Long time lurker here. I thought this was an interesting post on TO I found:
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Soooo I saw this thread when googling: where to meet the hottest women in toronto, and I just have to say that what I'm seeing here screams: i suck with girls! Let me introduce myself. I've lived in toronto my entire life. In the last year I began approaching women pretty much everywhere. I can give you a comprehensive overview of every type of girl you could ever want to find, I know where specific "types" of girls are more densely populated. That, and I know at what time these girls tend to populate the areas more. However I don't feel like it would help anyone here one bit. I've approached A LOT of girls here, and yeah occasionally I can see the that the girls here can be a bit rude (you guys think a girl rejecting you in a club is bad, try younge street close to the eaton centre on a monday at 4 o'clock where some won't even stop to talk to you). However as a whole the girls in toronto aren't really that stuck up. What i hear on this forum is a lot of people making excuses for getting rejected over and over again, therefore in order to distance yourselves from rejection you're saying that the women here are "stuck up", or "snobby" or whatever. Most of you will deny this, but its true. I know this because I have approached every "type" of woman there is in the city, from the cool laid back artsy girls to the sophisticated office girls, from girls in colleges to women working on bay street. And everything in between. The women of Toronto aren't stuck up, they just have STANDARDS. Seriously when I run around this city, its like there is literally no competition here. Lots of girls have told me they have boyfriends, only for them to dial their phone numbers in my phone minutes later. In clubs I'm able to literally RIP girls away from guys twice my size and either they do nothing or get butthurt & try to fight, either way the girl is mine. The girls here want a champion. They want a guy that can look past their initial resistant bitchy attitudes. Why do they give that? Well if they're too nice to some guys those guys start thinking they like them and then they start overcomplicating everything. So they have to be mean to get rid of the guys that are just being nice cause they wanna get some. Can you really blame them? Okay now where am I going? Point of this little rant is that it is not the girls per se (yes I'll agree some can be a bit difficult, but if you hang in there long enough they also eventually turn around, the bitchiest girls are usually the nicest after an hour or two, or really hot sex), it has more to do with the way YOU are presenting yourself to them. So from a guy that has walked up to quite a few girls in his time let me give you all some pointers:

1. Stop trying to be james bond. I can't tell you how many dudes talk to these girls holding their drinks up against their chest, talking about how they're marketers of some kind, trying to look all cool with their $1500 watches, and the designer shirts, etc... I walk up to these girls saying "I love you", then go for a hug lift them up and walk them away. Be yourself and have fun. Girls just want FUN.

2. BE LOUDER. In a club you need to project your voice. Your voice is who you are, she won't pay attention if you can't even get over the music.

3. Try smiling. Seriously, **** is like magic.

4. When they start giving you the "biotch treatment", simply stand there and laugh at them. Call them cute for doing it. Tell them you love that. Whatever you like, just don't run away after she starts being mean. If she's being a ***** it means she likes you, that's her way of playing with you, play back.

5. If she starts ignoring you then there's two things you can do. You can snap your fingers and literally tell her to focus (sounds strange but it works), and consider lowering the bar for what you'll talk about. Here's most guys game: hi im andy, whats your name? what do you do? do you come here often? thats cool, i sell real estate? yeah the markets down. oh you gotta go to your friends, okay bye.

heres me: YOU THERE! YES YOU, I LIKE YOUR HAIR, COME HERE LET ME MESS IT UP. *proceeds to mess up hair*. I LOVE YOU WHATS YOUR NAME. AWESOME. *HI FIVE* AND WHERE DO YOU HAIL FROM? OMG I LOVE THAT PLACE *makeout*


Toronto is a great city, I can't stand people dissing it, if girls don't like you here then guess what, you go almost any other cities and the only difference in your "success" with them is that the ways of being rejected are slightly different. Hope i helped



Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/toronto/1...z4GkB3Abzt

Ah... and the cycle continues about this wonderful city of ours!! The Guy who wrote this is still in the "I'm happy to be talking to Girls phase" of Pick Up. We've all been there, when you're feeling on top of the world after getting some digits (or a hug from a chick with Giant tits But after he tries to unsuccessfully Get it in a couple of times, AND travels... then he'll get it. But for now fellas, how about we let him bask in his glory shall we

I lived in Toronto from 2010-15, and frequented the city long before that. I honestly loved the place prior to 2012 or so. I'm not sure what exactly happened, but I think the cultural tipping point happened sometime around then. I know this isn't directly what you're getting at. But the place used to be much better. But yeah, maybe it's just that I was younger then.

Recently i have met some guys coming from Toronto to Montreal thinking like you guys.

After a month,They all saying now we miss Toronto.
They did not get laid since they came to Montreal.
Actually they all said girls in Montreal are more beautiful less bitchy and nice to talk, but to get somthing sexual Toronto is by far easier for the same girl.

Who dont beleive that,he had just to come to Montreal and he will leave soon.

^ No one is denying that about T.O... on a short term basis. The point is how much BS are you willing to go through for some Pu**y? Eventually you'll switch over from quantity to quality... and to get quality in T.O... takes way harder work than something equivalent in MTL hands down

Keep chasing those French unicorns

(08-08-2016 09:22 AM)scotian Wrote:  Ok so to pull girls at clubs in Tdot, you just have to scream at them, hug them and tell them you love them and mess up their hair, gotchya!

Don't have that much knowledge about Toronto clubs except from Roosh reviews, but I know that in MTL the Francophone chicks appear to like it when ya say "Bonjour/ Bon Soir Petite-Madame" "Ma jolie amie".

A few of the college chicks at the Saint Laurent club area were willing to twerk their rear pon di cocky (dry humping doggy style) in public on a Saturday night.

Haven't heard about that hair pulling though.

Many of the French-local Montreal chicks I met like to be treated as sex objects and dominated, while the cougar types in Montreal like to be treated like they are in high school again. Justin Bieber game works good on Francophone Montreal women age 35-45.

I tried to game some female Montreal street cops, but because it was the Roosh Outrage, I wanted to keep a low profile. I did game some female politicians ages 23-30 in Quebec.

Overall, It was surprising how Quebec men tend to be like "You go son" when approaching and hustling chicks in Montreal.

In other words, that OP with those gaming tips really got some desperate information.

A majority of Chicks only like it when the man kisses their punanny and says love for it after the "deal is sealed".

Vybz Kartel "Romping Shop" lyrics works well for Montreal game, not sure about Toronto game.

(08-10-2016 07:03 PM)casa-nostra Wrote:  Recently i have met some guys coming from Toronto to Montreal thinking like you guys.

After a month,They all saying now we miss Toronto.
They did not get laid since they came to Montreal.
Actually they all said girls in Montreal are more beautiful less bitchy and nice to talk, but to get somthing sexual Toronto is by far easier for the same girl.

Who dont beleive that,he had just to come to Montreal and he will leave soon.

Montreal is way harder for someone who doesn't speak French because many requirements to "fit in" in places like Quebec is to speak French.

Some people might find Montreal to be a culture-shock as compared to the rest of Canada.

However, if a bearded Iranian man like Roosh went there back in 2012 and received approaches from 18-year-old Francophone chicks, then there is at least the potential to game well, though Roosh did admit that it's more work to get laid there in Montreal due to cultural, linguistic and social differences as compared to the Anglosphere of North America.

If the friends that Montreal women are "girls in Montreal are more beautiful less bitchy and nice to talk", then what is stopping them from sealing the deal?

It's also inconsistent that the friends claim that Montreal chicks are "less bitchy and nice to talk" than Toronto women, but Toronto women are more sexual. It doesn't make sense.

A conversation starts the path to sex.

I clearly remember that former Toronto Indian Race Troll dissing me by inferring me as some foreign Roosh supporter who was in a YouTube video, but on a later thread, he went to Montreal and he cried out how he couldn't even get as much as a conversation opener from the party area of downtown Montreal, and he wanted to go back to Toronto (with the tail between his legs of course).

I admit that Montreal is a culture shock to many English speakers, but there is less nonsense to deal with when interacting with the local Francophone chicks.

Avoiding the Mc Gill-Concordia Anglophone students and anywhere Anglo will improve chances to meet the Francophone chicks.

My French is broken up with Jamaican accent and Patois, yet Francophone chicks feel flattered with my French words and phrases that I made up mixing different languages and dialects.

The last time I just said "Hi" to a Toronto woman on Facebook, my message got flagged as harassing spam and I couldn't post or comment for 3 days due to a FB ban.

(08-10-2016 07:31 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  ^ No one is denying that about T.O... on a short term basis. The point is how much BS are you willing to go through for some Pu**y? Eventually you'll switch over from quantity to quality... and to get quality in T.O... takes way harder work than something equivalent in MTL hands down

Screw dis Toronto vs Montreal war.

I gonna spend more time down in the state of Vermont, USA and Rochester, NY, USA area.

A run-down hellhole like Buffalo showed me some potential too.

I heard that Thunder Bay, ON has some nice Aborigine women, but that place is a hard knocks life.

It looks like leftwing cities in Canada will always have their game difficulties while the run-down areas are survival of the fittest and most bolder in game.

(08-11-2016 05:56 PM)RBerkley Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 07:03 PM)casa-nostra Wrote:  Recently i have met some guys coming from Toronto to Montreal thinking like you guys.

After a month,They all saying now we miss Toronto.
They did not get laid since they came to Montreal.
Actually they all said girls in Montreal are more beautiful less bitchy and nice to talk, but to get somthing sexual Toronto is by far easier for the same girl.

Who dont beleive that,he had just to come to Montreal and he will leave soon.

Montreal is way harder for someone who doesn't speak French because many requirements to "fit in" in places like Quebec is to speak French.

Some people might find Montreal to be a culture-shock as compared to the rest of Canada.

However, if a bearded Iranian man like Roosh went there back in 2012 and received approaches from 18-year-old Francophone chicks, then there is at least the potential to game well, though Roosh did admit that it's more work to get laid there in Montreal due to cultural, linguistic and social differences as compared to the Anglosphere of North America.

If the friends that Montreal women are "girls in Montreal are more beautiful less bitchy and nice to talk", then what is stopping them from sealing the deal?

It's also inconsistent that the friends claim that Montreal chicks are "less bitchy and nice to talk" than Toronto women, but Toronto women are more sexual. It doesn't make sense.

A conversation starts the path to sex.

I clearly remember that former Toronto Indian Race Troll dissing me by inferring me as some foreign Roosh supporter who was in a YouTube video, but on a later thread, he went to Montreal and he cried out how he couldn't even get as much as a conversation opener from the party area of downtown Montreal, and he wanted to go back to Toronto (with the tail between his legs of course).

I admit that Montreal is a culture shock to many English speakers, but there is less nonsense to deal with when interacting with the local Francophone chicks.

Avoiding the Mc Gill-Concordia Anglophone students and anywhere Anglo will improve chances to meet the Francophone chicks.

My French is broken up with Jamaican accent and Patois, yet Francophone chicks feel flattered with my French words and phrases that I made up mixing different languages and dialects.

The last time I just said "Hi" to a Toronto woman on Facebook, my message got flagged as harassing spam and I couldn't post or comment for 3 days due to a FB ban.

Roosh said that girls in MTL are just nice and approches just to be polite not more.

French girls(quebecois) are more difficult than anglo canadians to get laid with.They are very attached to their culture,and they dont like cold approches by strangers.However,sometimes they will not act bitchy and they will talk with you but then dont expect somthing.Fake numbers is king in MTL.
Anglo Canadians if they dont like you they will ignore you.

The ONS is not in the culture of Quebecois.

Many guys call Montréal the city of Watch and don't touch.

So where can a Canadian get laid then?

You read the last few pages of this thread and apparently nobody has sex in Montreal or Toronto.

I can't take serious any notion that some how Montreal is much worse than Toronto.

Toronto is classic for poor ROI. The effort, resources, and time you need to get your dick wet here isn't worth it. For half or a quarter of the resources and game you can get with much better women any place else. People trying to sell me on any place worse, I won't believe it.

Are all the Big 3 cities in Canada shit holes and pussy wastelands?

People can't be serious.

RE: @ casa notra:

How can you say with confidence that Anglo-Ontario-GTA-Toronto women are considered more down-to-earth than these Francophone chicks in Montreal, even when you haven't even stepped foot in Toronto as yet? It's like me claiming that Pepsi tastes better than Coca-Cola even though I don't drink soft drink beverages.

I understand that because lefties in EU are importing hoardes of male ISIS combatants into France which are responsible for whatever is going on there, it makes men from certain French-Arab & African countries be more hated on by far-right nationalists, but Montreal is one of the most lefty cities in North America.

Cities like Toronto only play the lefty card so that they can indoctrinate Middle Eastern women into digesting the worst attitudes and belief systems which come mainly from the Anglo-women. Toronto does not care about straight men regardless of background. Toronto only plays lefty for feminists, LGBTQ and public sector workers. Toronto is a bit "conservative" when it comes to chatting up with even co-workers at a workplace, or fellow students on campus.

Montreal women are more open to conversation, while many men from Toronto on many forums claim that Toronto women typically don't even give as much as eye contact, and men on various campuses in Toronto are wanted or have their names plastered online for "unwanted conversations" which carries a misdemeanor or caution offense for first timers.

I remember at a university I attended in Toronto how I was merely seated a few seats away from a Toronto-ized chick in a small lecture room, and she kept on giving me this stare like how deer would look at coyotes, or gazelles would look at lions in FEAR.

She then proceeded to give me that ubiquitous Toronto nasty stare, and she later packed up her bags and left the class even though she was early for that class and it was an important topic that class.

After realizing that the Toronto college & university life sucks, I prepared my withdrawal process from the university (because in Canada I can still get billed if I don't enroll for the next semester and attend classes) and I never regret that decision. Toronto college & university life is too toxic for me. I don't understand why the Anglo chicks and their manginas in Toronto keep on hating on me just for having an extroverted, carefree attitude.

Montreal college and university party life is known to be the Life of the Party that even Tyga's main beach 18-year-old hottie celebrated her 18th birthday in Montreal.

I stated before, avoiding Toronto-ized places like Mc Gill University and Concordia University will help with gaming in Montreal. Mc Gill University feels like University of Toronto U of T while Concordia University feels like Ryerson University.

I understand that there is tensions going on in France which makes certain groups of men subject to contempt, but in a lefty place like Montreal, I don't think that the chicks will be that xenophobic unless you were trying to court the wife of the former Parti-Quebecois leader.

When you move to Toronto you'll understand how the worst of Montreal is not even as bad as Toronto-occupied Ontario GTA Metropolis.

RE @ Kosko:

Markham, Ontario looked like it has potential with those Asian chicks. When I was there around 2013, there were Asian women who were friendly in their vibes. The thing with Asian Oriental chicks is that they like men of certain backgrounds, but their culture frowns on such relationships. Asian Oriental chicks who spent most of their life in Toronto will eventually turn into the typical Toronto woman sad enough.

The Montreal vs. Toronto debate is getting very bizarre now.

Last year I got a nice big booty European chick aged around 19-22 to twerk on my crotch in public at late Saturday night in the popular Saint Laurent-UQAM area of Montreal. There were those hipster Francophone Montreal chicks who were literally smiling at me after I enjoyed that chick's twerking.

I told my friends in Toronto about that night, and the first thing which they mentioned that if that happened in Toronto, Me and the chick would have been arrested for public indecency.

Toronto doesn't have that drive to meet hot chicks and have a good time, unless one can afford a Maserati to attract the gold-diggers who frequent the clubs in Toronto demanding 80$ champagnes and wines and other stuff like a donkey chasing a carrot on a stick.

I'm not going to disclose on this forum the best places in Quebec to get it on with a chick, by Quebec overall experiences a more "sexually liberating" attitude for the party scene.

In Toronto, there are posters on top of urinals warning men about "not to take advantage of women who drink", or "how there is a rape culture 1 in 3 women are sexually assaulted on this campus".

The only places in Montreal I would forsee such posters are at Mc Gill University where many of the University Toronto, Ryerson U and York University students flock to after obtaining their Bachelors degree in Toronto.

However, Toronto feminism does have a risk of infecting Montreal... The Roosh World Tour Outrage proved that hypothesis.

Toronto housing is very expensive is in my opinion the biggest downfall. By being so expensive it takes a huge nut out of any single guys income unless he has a very large income and to be frank not many guys under 30 are pulling 200k+ in Toronto. When your shitty 1 bedroom condo is 500k your disposable income truly is shot.

I don't even bother going to Toronto unless its to see a sporting or entertainment event. Toronto clubs have 0 appeal to me. My ideal of practical isn't spending a couple thousand at Muzik or ____(insert other expensive nightclub) on a weekend. With that 2k I could travel for a week including airfare.

I found the woman in Montreal to be much more nice and bubbly when I was last there. Montreal feels like a city that would be nice to live in. Toronto feels like a big condo factory where everyone is over stressed and overworked.

(08-14-2016 10:32 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  Toronto housing is very expensive is in my opinion the biggest downfall. By being so expensive it takes a huge nut out of any single guys income unless he has a very large income and to be frank not many guys under 30 are pulling 200k+ in Toronto. When your shitty 1 bedroom condo is 500k your disposable income truly is shot.

I don't even bother going to Toronto unless its to see a sporting or entertainment event. Toronto clubs have 0 appeal to me. My ideal of practical isn't spending a couple thousand at Muzik or ____(insert other expensive nightclub) on a weekend. With that 2k I could travel for a week including airfare.

I found the woman in Montreal to be much more nice and bubbly when I was last there. Montreal feels like a city that would be nice to live in. Toronto feels like a big condo factory where everyone is over stressed and overworked.

Guys in Toronto spend thousands on a Saturday night at Musik club? Roosh took a bus ride from Toronto to Montreal for about 60$.

Toronto culture is like Rihanna+ Drake top song "Work, Work, Work, Work, Work" in a literal sense to pay for rent which increases by around 50$-100$ per month when the rent lease is renewed.

Renting a condo for 1,500$ a month in Toronto back in 2012, may cost around 1,800$-2,000$ per month today for the same condo.

Bus fares in Toronto used to be $3 cash fare, now in 2016 it's 3.25$ though oil prices have dramatically declined from its 2012 peak. I even heard that bus fares in the GTA start from 4$ cash fare. That is ridiculous.

Some people live within 5km of the downtown core of Montreal and complain that they are paying around 500$ a month rent for a 1-bedroom apartment utilities included.

A post-secondary school in Toronto around 20km from the downtown core is charging students at least 1,000$ per month for SHARED student residence.

Plus, in Montreal, it is considered easier to obtain healthcare benefits, disability benefits, lower tuition costs and other social safety nets.

In Toronto, try asking for government assistance or student loans, and they look upon a man as scum. I heard that in Toronto, they give people 500$ a month in social assistance while the average rent in Toronto for one person in a shared residence is around 600$ per month.

Student loans in Toronto is also that Catch-22 situation because many students are given 10,000$ in loans, but the tuition and textbooks alone cost almost 10,000$, leaving the students to find money elsewhere for bus fare and other school supplies.

Toronto sure knows how to plat itself as a lefty city, but they sure play "conservative" on certain stuff.

Toronto is very expensive that working below 40,000$ a year isn't going to be a liveable wage for one person. Toronto is just too expensive with a very poor club life.

Vancouver is expensive in terms of buying detached homes, but the milder climate and friendlier women are merits and benefits for a man using game.

Dude is still flapping his gums WTF!!!!

GO away already, thought you got a warning.

We get it - YOU despise Toronto.

Montreal ain't as easy as it was 20 years ago, loads of dudes are flocking there now.

Easy pussy to be found in Ottawa, Winnipeg and Edmonton.

Ya another problem is that even though Toronto might be more expensive than Montreal, but without french you won't be able to find a decent enough job to live "The Good Life" here.

(08-14-2016 10:32 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  Toronto housing is very expensive is in my opinion the biggest downfall. By being so expensive it takes a huge nut out of any single guys income unless he has a very large income and to be frank not many guys under 30 are pulling 200k+ in Toronto. When your shitty 1 bedroom condo is 500k your disposable income truly is shot.

I don't even bother going to Toronto unless its to see a sporting or entertainment event. Toronto clubs have 0 appeal to me. My ideal of practical isn't spending a couple thousand at Muzik or ____(insert other expensive nightclub) on a weekend. With that 2k I could travel for a week including airfare.

I found the woman in Montreal to be much more nice and bubbly when I was last there. Montreal feels like a city that would be nice to live in. Toronto feels like a big condo factory where everyone is over stressed and overworked.

RE: Housing.

I guess be thankfull we don't have it as bad as Vancouver?

House prices are terrible here but you can still find pockets with some deals. No point buying. Might as well rent and put your lump for a down payment on good performing investments with dividends.

I have no idea who the next waves of buyers will be. Just wait till all those boomers have to unload those home and are desperate for that cash to retire.

All these condos downtown. You hear horror stories of busted up elevators, leaks, and cracks already forming.

As far as incomes go it is very hard to gauge. Many in Toronto are doing well but mos are just getting payed a decent amount for being young with no kids to feed. I am sure a good chunk taking in 100k a year but I have never ever believe this city was flowin with money. Like places such as Boston, Dallas/Houston, SF.

If I had to relive my youth today, having to stay inside the GTA, my solution would be to try living in the suburbs. Generally, Pickering ..Ajax..Whitby ..Oshawa.

The Eastern Suburbs of Toronto just have a different vibe. They should be experienced by any guys frustrated from downtown Toronto.

You will be astonished by the amount of attractive college girls in Oshawa, it's 90 per cent white and it's a place always dealing with some economic problem. Women are much friendlier and approachable.

I would say that social circles definitely matter. But the guys generally do not have style, it's common to see guys go out on Saturdays in Tshirts and Blue Jeans.

I think a good looking foreign guy would do Amazing there.