What's the matter with Toronto? Seriously...
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RBerkley, have you contributed anything to the forum besides adding negativity to this thread?
Everyone here knows already that Toronto is far from a perfect place. There are better spots out there, just about anywhere under the travel section.
Dwelling on negativity leads to a form of unconscious bitterness, the kind that repels good male and female relationships. I'm not saying that's you, but your behaviour here is the same as some unfortunate cases I've seen first-hand.
And it doesn't add to the forum. Nothing I've seen you post so far in this thread has been constructive.
(07-28-2016 07:08 PM)Nascimento Wrote: RBerkley, have you contributed anything to the forum besides adding negativity to this thread?
Everyone here knows already that Toronto is far from a perfect place. There are better spots out there, just about anywhere under the travel section.
Dwelling on negativity leads to a form of unconscious bitterness, the kind that repels good male and female relationships. I'm not saying that's you, but your behaviour here is the same as some unfortunate cases I've seen first-hand.
And it doesn't add to the forum. Nothing I've seen you post so far in this thread has been constructive.
I honestly don't know what you're talking about because I'm only posting news articles relating to this thread.
Plus, Rudebwoy been asking me questions, and a few others let me respond to their inquires and opinions.
If Toronto women weren't making false rape accusations, feminist agenda and slandering Roosh, then I guess the OP wouldn't have started this thread in the first place.
I ain't bitter..I vigilant..My duty to spread awareness about the feminist agenda in Canada so that the other countries don't become infected with Anglo neo-Victorianism.
Sharing news articles ain't negativity and resentment..Something wrong with that place..It's negative by design, and I don't want that Toronto vybe to spread, so I share news articles and court Orders that I can find so that men can make an objective decision.
I can assure you that I also post in other threads not relating to dem Toronto feminazis..But in the next five years, it will be a Toronto feminazi who might infect another city..
Even Roosh feared that, and admitted that in five years men will have to record every interaction with a woman for protection against false accusations from a feminist.
I just don't like how the Canadian establishment slandered Roosh while using paid trolls and mercenaries to censor negative publicity about Canada via Harper bots.
In my spare time, I mainly chat up with French and Eastern European chicks..I just believe that it's my duty to protect the tribe of men from getting into unnecessary trouble with the man-haters in Toronto.
I'd even be a Wingman for socially awkward guys just for the fun of it..No negativity here..Just vigilance and posting news articles relating to the thread topic above.
(07-28-2016 10:36 AM)j.archer Wrote: ..Bad game is now considered a "hate crime" ....just wanna comment on this part. Ive seen alot of guys in toronto try to "talk" with girls and id compare it too a shake down or one of those aggressive door to door salesman. Alot of beta guys taking this route in toronto and it seems it just fuels these type of articles... Weak game could be seen as harassment especially when its persistent no? thoughts?
Sexual frustration in a sexually repressed place + Oneitis in dating + Oneitis in location= Disaster and Lashing Out.
tomtud · 2016-07-28 23:48:00 · #779
Each August long weekend is the caribana festival. Basically replicating a carnival party in the Caribbean. (Soooo Toronto to copy others).
A few concerns, cover charges for
Bars/clubs even those with no special guest jack up their prices (their excuse: ohhh it's caribana, meanwhile that club isn't doing anything special, traffic to the downtown core will be hectic and finally it's a festival marred with violence. Last year at muzik nightclub 2 people got shot and killed at the rapper drakes after party.
Yorkville is a sound alternative to the club district. Bars off of ossington or even college, queen streets can be worth a shot.
Besides, summer long weekends usually suck in toronto as the clubs/bars are usually sausage fests.
tomtud · 2016-08-02 17:29:00 · #780
Like I said last week, stay away from Toronto during caribana. Avoid those events if you can.
Long weekend in Toronto is marred by 3 days of violence
Global News
Duration 0:02:15
Mon, Aug 1: Stabbings, shootings and a robbery had Toronto police busy this long weekend and as Angie Seth reports, the aftermath has left 10 people injured, one of whom has life threatening injuries.
Source: Yahoo news
@tomtud - dude keep quiet.
I met some forum guys who came up from NYC for the Caribana, they simply loved it and are planning to return next year.
I was downtown on the friday, King St was packed with people. Tons of girls out and about, most of them were not even local.
Every city has some idiots that like to shoot people and cause trouble, not exclusive to Toronto.
@RBerkley - I asked you a simple question.
When did you live in Toronto? If you cannot answer that question then you are a troll.
You are bitter and I don't believe your stories about Montreal either.
Since you claim you live in the Caribbean, why would you care about a city you don't live in. I certainly wouldn't care about a city I have left.
Hiding is a weak move, beta to say the least.
(07-27-2016 02:08 PM)RBerkley Wrote: @ Rudebwoy, I lived in Toronto long enough to realize that Roosh was right when I saw his video in 2014...See the recent news story I posted about Roosh's "popular" spot in Toronto which he thought was chill and laid back like Liberty Village and Greektown.
Roosh wasn't in Liberty village or Greektown.
So please stop quoting him when you haven't even met him.
Your a bitter nerd.
I will troll you until you stop with your nonsense.
Toronto ain't easy but I know a lot of guys who are enjoying this city.
tomtud · 2016-08-02 18:56:00 · #784
Rudebwoy happens to be very sensitive about Toronto and caribana. Dude you can have Toronto. Enjoy
I may have been harsh as caribana does have a lot of parties and people do enjoy themselves. However, all I am trying to say is that everyone should be more conscious of your surroundings and if you can avoid this weekend as more idiots come out. Toronto does have fetes and Caribbean themed nights other than caribana. Luxy on Fridays in Woodbridge comes to mind.
I couldn't care less about Caribana and quite frankly wish they would cancel it, for reasons you would not understand.
Caribana has been around for decades, probably before you were born.
There are shootings every week in Toronto and surrounding areas, so not sure why you single out Caribana weekend.
This past Friday King St was packed with girls of all backgrounds parading up and down, it was nuts. I went to a new spot that was simply off the chain, I won't say the name because I don'T want to ruin it.
Again for the umpteenth time, Toronto is a tough ruthless place for gaming girls.
I don't see the point of beating a dead horse, with the endless videos and posts about SJW / feminists / LGBT etc. As Nascimento said, thinking negative breeds negative results.
Guys aren't exactly filling my inbox about moving to Toronto, so I think most men know Toronto isn't a place to move too unless they have a choice.
I myself am working on my location independent business, so I can escape some of the harsh winters here.
tomtud · 2016-08-02 21:04:00 · #786
Rudebwoy jump the ship. Ironic that you mentioned king st as it was when I pondered moving when I met up with moma. I finished my teaching degree and went overseas to teach in the international school circuit (not ESL). Best decision in my life.
But before you make the full time move I recommend that you visit a few places to get the feel of the place. For example some guys like Eastern Europe, others Philippines and like naughty nomad even Africa. Preaching to the choir here.
Good luck with your location independent business. I know in Medellin and Colombia in genral there are Facebook groups for expat business owners etc. Perhaps take a peak at the spots you fancy.
BTW why I single out caribana is from the increase in violence and money you have to spend to enter clubs. By all means folks enjoy that weekend, just keep your wits on high.
Moma · 2016-08-02 21:21:00 · #787
I swear Tomtud was the first forum member I met! Man hit me up immediately after my return from DR and we hit up a few joints on King as well as Yonge and Eg! Dude left Tdot and only returned to grab some documents, don't blame you, bro!
tomtud · 2016-08-02 21:54:00 · #788
I still haven't made my way to the DR moma. I so want to go. Yeah I owe you a few drinks for your insight into the Latin flavour world.
Wherever you are, all the best dude!!
Now the next crazy weekend should be Film festival coming up in a few weeks. Yorkville should be popping with the gold diggers to everyone else. Older crowds. Again i will add that same criticism as I made for caribana minus the violence part. Steeper cover charges may be the norm.
The only good thing that I personally see from these events is that last call is extended to 4am for most places.
@ Tomtud
A friend of Moma is a friend of mine.
I have been to over 30 countries, I am familiar with Eastern Europe and most of Europe. I love Europe for the social aspect but hate other aspects of it.
I would love to see South America, as a traveler that has to be on my bucket list.
Africa is on my list as well.
Asia I am not to fussed about, Japan is a must visit place for me though.
I contemplated moving to the Caribbean, but I know many who did that and could not handle the small island fever.
My roots are in Canada, the lifestyle I love.
I dream of going back to England, but sadly it isn't the England I left.
I am looking for months that I can escape, I am not looking to move away.
Banna · 2016-08-02 22:55:00 · #790
Oh c'mon these doom n gloom reports especially regarding Caribana are over exaggerations,lol. I've no vested interest in caribana whatsoever so. I don't even go unless visiting family needs to be driven there. You don't need to break bank with these "Caribana themed" ripoff "promoter/celebrity " parties.
I rolled solo what I consider my "go to" place wildflower Sunday night and the talent was by my standards above average. A few 8+s on the floor. I only go there on a Thurs or Sunday night though.
$20 cover I spent is my absolute max to go anywhere in this city. I swear by this place over any other venue downtown in terms of pickup,......especially I'm rolling into Toronto for a short visit and don't have time to waste.
I'm no pickup artist whatsoever but even if I don't get a # or even better laid ☺ I never leave that place without tounging and groping at least 1 girl for the night. ONS at a few girls pads, and in one case a multiple girl romp have happened from there. Everywhere else in King St W I'm lucky to get a whatsapp lolol. If I had a pad walking from there specifically I'd be banging girls left right n center. I really think women go there to have fun and then afterwards......
There were many out of towners looking to meet and have fun,....I opened one hot Miley Cyrus looking chick on the dance floor at 230am. After a dance she kinda backed away (i sensed caused she was married) and put her =ly hot 1/2 metis 1/2 Hungarian girlfriend on me... You know they weren't from Toronto with attitudes like that! Turns out they came from Vancouver to see Ovo drake. A third friend whispers in my ear while me n 1/2 dance: "My girl....I don't think you could handle her fuck".
Oh shit it's on!!
She asks me where I stay, (hoping I'm in the vicinity to escalate) what im up to after, sadly i know whats coming I replied: "Sauga"
Then the deal breaker: "You don't live Downtown....why you live so far?"
Fuck me I say to myself.
When going out in that scene my advice is avoid places like this new hyped (i'm sure its overrated) posh Lavalle pool bar and Addisons aka the old C lounge and even Maison or Muzik (a bit of a distance away from everywhere else) that focus heavily on social circles and people sitting around bored in their own groups for the entire night while charging a killing for bottle service. Maybe everyone is different but I like the dance floor to open girls.
I don't know how people enjoy those venues vs Wildflower or even citizen with a floor for people to dance which forces these lizards out of their shells a bit more.
tomtud · 2016-08-02 23:33:00 · #791
@rudebwoy, don't forget about your OHIP coverage / eligibility if you are gone for more than 3 months in a calendar year. Just a tip that cost me some pretty pennies. Check out
http://www.expatexchange.com to help you out with supplemental info on running a business/living as an expat albeit partially in your case.
Now for Toronto, can be hit or miss, but the salsa bar Lula lounge has a few girls. Mostly Cuban as the live band plays typical Cuban salsa and when they take a break the DJ plays crossover music (reggaeton, merengue etc).
The older I get I realize spending all that money on pretentious places and bottle service didn't always coincide with a proper return on investment wink wink. The bars and places off the club districts do just fine.
Btw, if you can't dance salsa, don't worry. Reggaeton is played at lula and you can grind all you want and break the ice.
(08-02-2016 05:45 PM)rudebwoy Wrote: @RBerkley - I asked you a simple question.
When did you live in Toronto? If you cannot answer that question then you are a troll.
You are bitter and I don't believe your stories about Montreal either.
Since you claim you live in the Caribbean, why would you care about a city you don't live in. I certainly wouldn't care about a city I have left.
Hiding is a weak move, beta to say the least.
I told ya how long I stayed in Toronto, but I'm suspecting that I'm not the troll here.
I ain't from Toronto at all man..I know this vehicle is a Pussy Magnet, and it ain't gotta be a Tesla or Lamboghini:
I'm not sure how will you prove your point if you tend to go on the "denial" side about Montreal.
I know that it's good manners to disengage from flame war threads and trolling on threads and causing flame wars.
I know that the last time someone from Toronto tried to diss me (claiming that I was somebody in a video), was some Indian Race Troll who complained about not getting even a smile from Montreal chicks in one of the best party streets Montreal has to offer for North America.
I don't want to engage in further trolling, which appears to be directed at me.
(08-02-2016 05:49 PM)rudebwoy Wrote: (07-27-2016 02:08 PM)RBerkley Wrote: @ Rudebwoy, I lived in Toronto long enough to realize that Roosh was right when I saw his video in 2014...See the recent news story I posted about Roosh's "popular" spot in Toronto which he thought was chill and laid back like Liberty Village and Greektown.
Roosh wasn't in Liberty village or Greektown.
So please stop quoting him when you haven't even met him.
Your a bitter nerd.
I will troll you until you stop with your nonsense.
Toronto ain't easy but I know a lot of guys who are enjoying this city.
"Like" is a Simile.
There are so many inaccuracies with your post. One for example, was that my face was plastered all over Montreal because I took a selfie with Roosh, and during the World Tour, the Canadian SJWs were making Memes of the selfie and sharing it online, as if the leftist Quebec people are going to harass a dark-skinned mixed-race man without looking like a racist group.
One of the organizers Aurelie Nix refused to strip for me to see her boobies when I requested her online to do so v.i.a online social media. Aurelie told me that Roosh should give me attention. I persisted in letting her strip for me, but she refused (It now looks like Aurelie is thinking more about Roosh because her YouTube channel is mainly videos of her activism against Roosh)
She went to the local authorities after her boobie pics were on the forum, and she tried to complain on me too.
I already have a bit of fame in Montreal because of that Roosh selfie. I haven't been attacked on the streets by the SJW hippie mobs in Montreal to date, because they aren't going to attack their Francophone speakers, which are declining in number.
Plus, when I flirt/flirted with Francophone chicks in Montreal, some of the older Quebecois white men support me on, probably because they want to get a piece of the prize.
Flirt culture is huge in Montreal, but try flirting in Toronto without any complaint about sexual harassment? I heard that even eye contact with a Toronto chick is taboo. On the other hand, chicks driving in Quebec license plates in Toronto were more keen to be giving traffic flirting signs than the Anglophone women with their bitter faces in their Range Rovers.
I'm not engaging any further. I already answered most of your questions. I am not the troll here.
You even admitted that you are trolling. Speaks volumes man. Something about criticizing Toronto brings out the MIB and Toronto Thought Police Maybe like Carly Rae Jepsen one-hit wonder song Call Me Maybe.
I've received a warning stating that I'm "negative" in my few posts on this thread, but if being "negative" is praising Montreal, then someone hating on another man opinions because the truth hurts like DEFCOCK 1 or a bad break-up.
(08-03-2016 06:03 PM)RBerkley Wrote: I don't want to engage in further trolling, which appears to be directed at me.

Damn RBerkley I can't believe that you've tarnished your reputation on this Forum... all because of Toronto... Toronto!! C'mon man! Toronto will stay the same no matter how much you hate it! You don't start bickering with established men for a crab basket! I'm sorry to write this... but I'm now putting you in the crab basket of PUA Hate... not because you hate game, because Toronto broke your mind and made you revengeful beyond repair. I almost took the same route of hatred, but that hatred was fueled by this city, however it was not created by this city.
I made some move to better myself, succeeded in getting in elite shape, but didn't reach the success I was aiming for in my new career. So now I'm back working in a snarky Toronto female environment that I hate...the same one that fuels your anger... but I'm alright because I made some move and lost a round... but as soon as I get enough cash in the bank... I'll be back for Round 2 baby! Time is the only resource that you cannot create more of, so quit wasting it on these ugly Toronto hambeasts... because while you're hatin. they're livin life at least!
Yes, the city has major flaws.
I do not see the point on focusing on retarded stuff like SJW/Feminists and girls who don't make the grade.
If you want to talk that nonsense, then there is the political thread.
If you have moved on, rejoice in the fact. Tell me about the spot you live in and what makes it so great.
Don't hide like a little girl because you fear people might be tracking you down.
What's the matter with Toronto? Simple answer - it is the men that have no game and gas up sub par girls. I was talking to my friend last night and he was telling me tales about how guys in other countries put women in their place. Something that doesn't happen here.
@ Captain GH:
I ain't PUAHate..That's the loser forum where those guys who deny game 100%. I gamed well in MTL and nearby suburbs.
I just been ranting how the Toronto harpies and their manginas are travelling all over the place to spread their agenda.
Some of my military homies in the Caribbean still upset at the false accuser from Canada who harassed a respected military officer in the Dominican Republic.
If Toronto was confined to a wall surrounded by all four sides, then a lot of people abroad wouldn't be complaining about Toronto.
Even in Montreal, there is a despise about people who come from Toronto. I thought hating on Toronto was a Canada thing, but that SJW nonsense is being exported abroad, and not many are pleased.
Lemme give you an example: In countries like Trinidad, Jamaica, Guyana, Surinam, etc the public bus system is mainly owned by private operators who own the 15-seater Toyota Hiace minibuses and use it for passenger transport.
If a local was to complain that the bus driver is going too fast when driving 120 km/h in a 48 km/h zone, be sure that the passenger is going to be "cussed up" and lectured by the bus driver and conductor.
The same goes for if the music is too loud in the bus. The bus driver doesn't give a shit which passenger complains, and many of those loud music buses operate for special groups of people who enjoy that type of ride.
Plus, many of the music buses are owned by police officers, army officials and government members themselves, so these buses aren't likely to be impounded for a mere complaint from a local member of public.
However, I've witnessed how these "foreign tourist" people would start bitching all the time, and when the bus driver and conductor try to do the same reaction as they do to everyone else who complains on their driving/bus music, these empowered 1st world tourists either snitch to police or go on Tumblr to shame the bus driver and bus conductor, leading to the bus being impounded because the local news found the Tumblr rant and the local government doesn't want to be given a bad image.
The majority of American chicks LOVE to ride these speeding music buses, but the empowered Canadian ones and their manginas keep on getting some of the buses impounded.
What are these Toronto SJW people doing in the Caribbean in the first place beats me, but it looks like they mainly going there to deprive a man of his income and livelihood.
Unfortunately, when an outsider like me criticizes the Toronto culture, I get hassled on the forum.
Luckily, most of the Caribbean people are aware of this SJW crap already, but they are only afraid that their governments are forced to bow down to these SJW losers.
Toronto is no longer a city which has their degeneracy confined to one state or country: It's becoming parasitical and epidemic in nature.
I've and many observed this SJW phenomenon recently growing in the law schools at the UWI University of the West Indies, then it was found out that York University in Toronto were providing training and grants to the Caribbean universities for feminist outreach programs.
Will the Toronto feminist programs turn the Caribbean into DEFCOCK 1? Probably not, but it's disgraceful that these SJWs dare force their agenda onto former colonized countries.
Feminism affects game, no matter what. This is why many men on here flock to countries where 3rd wave feminism and emasculation of men haven't infected them yet.
Even Mystery, with his skills in human psychology, appear to be fruity sometimes, which can explain why more masculine men like Dimitri the Lover are more subject to attack, though Mystery is considered more skilled in PUA.
I'd propose the argument that if Roosh portrayed himself as an effeminate man, he wouldn't have been subject to attack in Canada.
The only way that a man can make it in SJW places like Toronto without being treated like a potential criminal is to behave in a fruity way, conformist and non-critical of their SJW cause.
However, as these same people are trying to mess with another man's bread abroad, it isn't considered wrong to point out that fact, like the example where a man can pay around 15,000 USD for a minibus, only to have it impounded by 1st world tourist losers because of their values.
The Caribbean people have nationalism too, but it isn't the racist ones you find in Canada and USA because we mostly mixed race already. Sometimes you may find that same white guy in most of Mavado's party music videos. We just don't want conformist spoilsports messing up we vibes. We wanna be the party destination for the Southern side of North America and Europe.
@ Captain Gh and Rudebwoy:
In my post-secondary study life in Toronto, I've been defamed by a female colleague, my selfie with Roosh was plastered all over Toronto and Montreal, with Toronto people spying on my hottie Brazilian chicks by sending a "Friend Request" to my FB account, in which Facebook would automatically provide such person with some of my friend list as "Friend Suggestions", and a Torontoized woman tried to force one of my female chicks to unfriend me because she started a flame war on a FB thread and I started to shame her to the core.
I don't know what's wrong with SJW Toronto people in general, but just because I took a selfie with Roosh means that I should not speak up on how much online harassment, spying and weird stuff happened to me?
blah blah blah blah
Thought you said you were done!
Back on track:
I got a feeling that Instagram game (like
the new post by Vinny and Ragnar, or
the old one by Fisto) would work REAL well here in Toronto.
It fits with the overly-status-conscious caricature we have of Toronto girls. And didn't Sweet Jesus the soft-serve ice cream place get famous based only on the LOOK of its ice cream as opposed to the quality (
Source)?
Personally my problem is that I live a mundane life. Gotta get prepping.