Post: #101

(05-09-2017 08:04 PM)Uruz Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 04:37 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  I would love to see Uruz, ChrisGaines and some of these other joker's reaction if these were a bunch of white kids throwing an elderly black lady into a pool after body slamming her. Instead they want to defend Obama's second son as a good boy who realized his mistake and turned himself in. Give me a fucking break.

Excuse me. Who was defending who? Are you so scare of it that when someone mentions "race" in motive it means that he is trying to use it as an argument for defence of blacks? Hmm, I thought that saying "I would gladly watch all of the cunts at the pool and their whole family die" would make the point but I guess word "racism" is so deeply rooted in westerns as bad.

I think that like me, 99% of the forum has been totally drunk at some point but I don't remember seeing behaviour like this, ever and I have done some stupid shit drunk. I am not that extremely surprised that the trash boy did to the woman what he did, I was more surprised that everyones reaction was "RUN!!!" - From what the fuck they were running, so they are not associated with a white old woman probably dead in the pool? If that's their first thought, hmmm. I guess it says it all.

Their lives matter less than the cost of bullets, but we should not be that cheap.

Dude I'm sorry but I've read this over and over and I have no idea what the hell it is you're saying here. Maybe English is your second language but truly I can't decipher this gibberish.

Post: #102

The guys that are saying give him years are ridiculous. Try him like he broke her spine. Why and how?

He didn't break her spine and there was no intent to break her spine. Please tell me how that can be a conviction for assault great bodily harm or a manslaughter charge. She had bruises. Sounds like a simple assault and battery.

What he did was totally fucked up and wrong. He still has to be punished appropriately.

Post: #103

(05-10-2017 05:24 AM)realologist Wrote:  The guys that are saying give him years are ridiculous. Try him like he broke her spine. Why and how?

He didn't break her spine and there was no intent to break her spine. Please tell me how that can be a conviction for assault great bodily harm or a manslaughter charge. She had bruises. Sounds like a simple assault and battery.

What he did was totally fucked up and wrong. He still has to be punished appropriately.

The guy was incredibly reckless with that old lady, to the point where this practically conflates with intent. He slipped once and dropped her on hard surface, yet he still tries to pick her up again. So there is premeditation there. He did put her health in danger. People go to jail for DUIs, this is worse.

50 years ago this kid's father would have given him a proper thumping. That kind of thugish behavior wasn't tolerated in traditional southern Black communities. Today, chances are his father isn't even there, and therein lies the problem.

Post: #104

It is frankly even more telling of savage behavior that not one rushed to her aid, but they preferred to scream and run away.

Yeah - but white oppression is holding them down - right.

Post: #105

(05-09-2017 11:00 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 08:04 PM)Uruz Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 04:37 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  I would love to see Uruz, ChrisGaines and some of these other joker's reaction if these were a bunch of white kids throwing an elderly black lady into a pool after body slamming her. Instead they want to defend Obama's second son as a good boy who realized his mistake and turned himself in. Give me a fucking break.

Excuse me. Who was defending who? Are you so scare of it that when someone mentions "race" in motive it means that he is trying to use it as an argument for defence of blacks? Hmm, I thought that saying "I would gladly watch all of the cunts at the pool and their whole family die" would make the point but I guess word "racism" is so deeply rooted in westerns as bad.

I think that like me, 99% of the forum has been totally drunk at some point but I don't remember seeing behaviour like this, ever and I have done some stupid shit drunk. I am not that extremely surprised that the trash boy did to the woman what he did, I was more surprised that everyones reaction was "RUN!!!" - From what the fuck they were running, so they are not associated with a white old woman probably dead in the pool? If that's their first thought, hmmm. I guess it says it all.

Their lives matter less than the cost of bullets, but we should not be that cheap.

Dude I'm sorry but I've read this over and over and I have no idea what the hell it is you're saying here. Maybe English is your second language but truly I can't decipher this gibberish.

It's why I asked him politely to make his point before. Maybe English is not his first language, but he speaks it enough to rant. He ignored my request.

It was a genuine request as well, not one of those obtuse "I really don't know what you are saying" ploys. I honestly did not know what the fuck he was talking about and I speak 'sperg' pretty well. This was beyond that. It was just 'rant'.

But he was so belligerent and forthright, that I thought it worth the effort to get him to explain himself. Glad I'm not the only one that doesn't have a clue.

It might even be that he has something interesting to say. Guess we'll never know. He speaks da lingo well enough to rant, but not enough to reply to a polite request to elucidate on his argument.

Post: #106

(05-10-2017 08:20 PM)Rigsby Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 11:00 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 08:04 PM)Uruz Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 04:37 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  I would love to see Uruz, ChrisGaines and some of these other joker's reaction if these were a bunch of white kids throwing an elderly black lady into a pool after body slamming her. Instead they want to defend Obama's second son as a good boy who realized his mistake and turned himself in. Give me a fucking break.

Excuse me. Who was defending who? Are you so scare of it that when someone mentions "race" in motive it means that he is trying to use it as an argument for defence of blacks? Hmm, I thought that saying "I would gladly watch all of the cunts at the pool and their whole family die" would make the point but I guess word "racism" is so deeply rooted in westerns as bad.

I think that like me, 99% of the forum has been totally drunk at some point but I don't remember seeing behaviour like this, ever and I have done some stupid shit drunk. I am not that extremely surprised that the trash boy did to the woman what he did, I was more surprised that everyones reaction was "RUN!!!" - From what the fuck they were running, so they are not associated with a white old woman probably dead in the pool? If that's their first thought, hmmm. I guess it says it all.

Their lives matter less than the cost of bullets, but we should not be that cheap.

Dude I'm sorry but I've read this over and over and I have no idea what the hell it is you're saying here. Maybe English is your second language but truly I can't decipher this gibberish.

It's why I asked him politely to make his point before. Maybe English is not his first language, but he speaks it enough to rant. He ignored my request.

It was a genuine request as well, not one of those obtuse "I really don't know what you are saying" ploys. I honestly did not know what the fuck he was talking about and I speak 'sperg' pretty well. This was beyond that. It was just 'rant'.

But he was so belligerent and forthright, that I thought it worth the effort to get him to explain himself. Glad I'm not the only one that doesn't have a clue.

It might even be that he has something interesting to say. Guess we'll never know. He speaks da lingo well enough to rant, but not enough to reply to a polite request to elucidate on his argument.

Oh you guys really can't figure it out? Let me try to help

He was implying that likely a major reason pol doxxed him, was because he was black, simply because that's the way pol is(saying nigger a bunch etc and sometimes being white nationalist).

When Uruz was bashing the people at the pool and hopefully their family would die he would hope people would get the point that he's NOT irrationally pro-black, like Doc seemed to think.

Then the next paragraph was about how horrible their actions were and how being drunk wasn't an excuse

Then the last sentence was a comparison of how worthless their lives are, but also a clever joke about how you shouldn't skimp on the bullets just because they're worth more.

Post: #107

Ah, that makes things so much clearer. Thanks.

Post: #108

(05-10-2017 08:37 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  Oh you guys really can't figure it out? Let me try to help

He was implying that likely a major reason pol doxxed him, was because he was black, simply because that's the way pol is(saying nigger a bunch etc and sometimes being white nationalist).

When Uruz was bashing the people at the pool and hopefully their family would die he would hope people would get the point that he's NOT irrationally pro-black, like Doc seemed to think.

Then the next paragraph was about how horrible their actions were and how being drunk wasn't an excuse

Then the last sentence was a comparison of how worthless their lives are, but also a clever joke about how you shouldn't skimp on the bullets just because they're worth more.

Surprised that this point went right over Rigbsy's head honestly. Uruz couldn't have made it more clear than he did and I think he's right.

/pol is probably 99% White. The victim is White. The perp is Black. Seeing a member of a different tribe commit an act of violence against "one of their own" is what spurred /pol to action. If the victim and criminal in this story were the same race and the scenario were otherwise completely identical, no one, rvf, /pol, etc, would've given a shit.

Example: There's was a thread about an old Black man who got shot in the face and killed by a beta(who was also Black) and that thread is only three pages.

This woman survived with no serious injuries and this thread is twice as long and growing still. I think it's because the victim is White and the majority of rvf is White and therefore they're more interested and emotionally invested in, and angered by, the story.

Not complaining or disparaging the White people who are disgusted/angered by this incident just making an observation. It is what it is.

Post: #109

(05-10-2017 08:37 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 08:20 PM)Rigsby Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 11:00 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 08:04 PM)Uruz Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 04:37 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  I would love to see Uruz, ChrisGaines and some of these other joker's reaction if these were a bunch of white kids throwing an elderly black lady into a pool after body slamming her. Instead they want to defend Obama's second son as a good boy who realized his mistake and turned himself in. Give me a fucking break.

Excuse me. Who was defending who? Are you so scare of it that when someone mentions "race" in motive it means that he is trying to use it as an argument for defence of blacks? Hmm, I thought that saying "I would gladly watch all of the cunts at the pool and their whole family die" would make the point but I guess word "racism" is so deeply rooted in westerns as bad.

I think that like me, 99% of the forum has been totally drunk at some point but I don't remember seeing behaviour like this, ever and I have done some stupid shit drunk. I am not that extremely surprised that the trash boy did to the woman what he did, I was more surprised that everyones reaction was "RUN!!!" - From what the fuck they were running, so they are not associated with a white old woman probably dead in the pool? If that's their first thought, hmmm. I guess it says it all.

Their lives matter less than the cost of bullets, but we should not be that cheap.

Dude I'm sorry but I've read this over and over and I have no idea what the hell it is you're saying here. Maybe English is your second language but truly I can't decipher this gibberish.

It's why I asked him politely to make his point before. Maybe English is not his first language, but he speaks it enough to rant. He ignored my request.

It was a genuine request as well, not one of those obtuse "I really don't know what you are saying" ploys. I honestly did not know what the fuck he was talking about and I speak 'sperg' pretty well. This was beyond that. It was just 'rant'.

But he was so belligerent and forthright, that I thought it worth the effort to get him to explain himself. Glad I'm not the only one that doesn't have a clue.

It might even be that he has something interesting to say. Guess we'll never know. He speaks da lingo well enough to rant, but not enough to reply to a polite request to elucidate on his argument.

Oh you guys really can't figure it out? Let me try to help

He was implying that likely a major reason pol doxxed him, was because he was black, simply because that's the way pol is(saying nigger a bunch etc and sometimes being white nationalist).

When Uruz was bashing the people at the pool and hopefully their family would die he would hope people would get the point that he's NOT irrationally pro-black, like Doc seemed to think.

Then the next paragraph was about how horrible their actions were and how being drunk wasn't an excuse

Then the last sentence was a comparison of how worthless their lives are, but also a clever joke about how you shouldn't skimp on the bullets just because they're worth more.

Excellent work. Do you do this professionally?

Post: #110

(05-10-2017 09:04 PM)Uruz Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 08:37 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  Oh you guys really can't figure it out? Let me try to help

He was implying that likely a major reason pol doxxed him, was because he was black, simply because that's the way pol is(saying nigger a bunch etc and sometimes being white nationalist).

When Uruz was bashing the people at the pool and hopefully their family would die he would hope people would get the point that he's NOT irrationally pro-black, like Doc seemed to think.

Then the next paragraph was about how horrible their actions were and how being drunk wasn't an excuse

Then the last sentence was a comparison of how worthless their lives are, but also a clever joke about how you shouldn't skimp on the bullets just because they're worth more.

Excellent work. Do you do this professionally?

I have an autistic gf

Post: #111

Was this a flash mob party? I've read about those before.

Post: #112

Remember the cops in Texas getting in trouble when "youths" took over a swimming pool?

Post: #113

(05-10-2017 09:39 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Remember the cops in Texas getting in trouble when "youths" took over a swimming pool?

Good, if it was an old lady they would body slam her and throw her into a pool. The one on the ground has a nice booty though.

Post: #114

(05-09-2017 01:22 PM)frenchcorporation Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 09:18 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  They are in their own house, let them deal with it and we will enjoy the fruits of their labours because if any one community can drive the intelligence agencies, MSM, governments and mass numbers of the public into a frenzy and hysterics over a protracted period of time again and again then they should be admired in a way.

Just don't be a major asshole or piece of shit whilst a camera is rolling and you're safe.

I often see posts on this forum (and on heartiste) extolling the virtues of 4chan ("weaponised austism!!!!11!") , but never see any mentioning the child porn, obsession with black men in any context etc etc

for example, I went on their **just now** and saw this on the front page of /b/ (NSFW):
http://i.imgur.com/FtteQwn.png

Why is this never discussed when these forum members talk about how great and edgy 4chan is? Anybody who has spent more than 10 minutes there would have seen similar stuff.

those guys habitually partake of "cuckish" habits , yet are constantly held up as some beacon of unfiltered guys, telling it how it is.

Very strange.

They are referring to /pol/, a specific board, different from all the others in a lot of regards. Equating /pol/ to /b/ speaks volumes of your understanding of said website as a whole. I would honestly refrain from commenting on the subject any further, your post reads like a CNN article.

Post: #115

(05-09-2017 04:52 PM)LeeEnfield303 Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 10:45 PM)TigOlBitties Wrote:  You should check out Chicago during the summer. The kids in this video would fit right in.

In Chicago that woman would have never gone over there.

Obviously not in the ghetto, but stuff like this can and does happen in Chicago. Packs of kids/young adults from the ghetto cause problems in nicer neighborhoods, especially in the summer.

Post: #116

After looking at the vid again it is not really a deliberate thug attack. It is more something stupid and exuberant that he did.

He stupidly intended to carry her over to the pool and throw her in never thinking about the age of the lady and also about the small dogs that she had in tow. She could have been fatally hurt even by impact of the water and the dogs could have gotten their necks broken in a crowd. This was massively negligent. The behavior of the entire entourage however was even worse - not one shithead coming over to help her at least in the video.

I frankly don't care about racial connotation or whether he would have done it to a black granny. He can be as racist as he wants against cracker-old-ladies. What matters is what he did and what the whole bunch did afterwards - no one even intercepted when he smashed with her to the ground (which he did not intend to do, but it still does not make it better).

Ah well - feral kids from single-motherhood households with little impulse control will behave exactly that way. We should not sugarcoat it, but we should not see the young guy as malicious at least in this incident. I would give him community service in an old people home and leave it at that.

Post: #117

A whole lotta virtue signaling in favor of a clumsy and aggressive old woman, who thought nothing could ever touch her, and that everyone is the same.

Fact is, IF she had called the cops already, why confront an unruly mob? Why not just wait? To tell them she ratted them out? Why confront them unnecessarily and expect 100 people to obey some goofy old woman?

Post: #118

(05-12-2017 04:55 PM)scrambled Wrote:  A whole lotta virtue signaling in favor of a clumsy and aggressive old woman, who thought nothing could ever touch her, and that everyone is the same.

Fact is, IF she had called the cops already, why confront an unruly mob? Why not just wait? To tell them she ratted them out? Why confront them unnecessarily and expect 100 people to obey some goofy old woman?

You're right, but he could have killed her. Pure luck she didn't die. I hate female entitlement as much as anyone, and we all know that teenagers don't think sometimes, but that was dehumanizing. She was an it to him.

Post: #119

One of the key features of the Western legal system is that we maintain a sense of justice by punishing people for what happened. Not for what could have happened.

And before anyone mentions DUI charges, that's a simple case of punishing someone for something that did happen. They did get behind the wheel of a car while under the influence.

Post: #120

(05-12-2017 05:52 PM)Suits Wrote:  One of the key features of the Western legal system is that we maintain a sense of justice for punishing people for what happened. Not what could have happened.

And before anyone mentions DUI charges, that's a simple case of punishing someone for something that did happen. They did get behind the wheel of a car while under the influence.

There were multiple times in my life where I could have killed people in my car. I did not - sometimes I drove recklessly, but nothing ever happened like that. A few times I was also in fights which could have ended badly.

Let's not overcook this - this was not a knockout game or any act of deliberate assault, just an overzealous youngster pumped up in the atmosphere doing something careless and stupid. He was lucky that no one got hurt, but luck belongs to life. His intent is what counts and it was not malicious or criminal.

Post: #121

(05-12-2017 04:55 PM)scrambled Wrote:  A whole lotta virtue signaling in favor of a clumsy and aggressive old woman, who thought nothing could ever touch her, and that everyone is the same.

Fact is, IF she had called the cops already, why confront an unruly mob? Why not just wait? To tell them she ratted them out? Why confront them unnecessarily and expect 100 people to obey some goofy old woman?

Because it's her's not their's. And not yours.

Post: #122

What could have easily happened is manslaughter; I have not seen anyone call in earnest for a manslaughter conviction.

What did happen was somewhere in the ballpark of battery--people pointing out the dangers of his actions are reminding colleagues here that this incident can't simply be brushed off as "dint do nuffin" or "it was just a prank!"

Even if he's a gud boi who said he was sorry because he got caught.

Post: #123

(05-10-2017 05:24 AM)realologist Wrote:  The guys that are saying give him years are ridiculous. Try him like he broke her spine. Why and how?

He didn't break her spine and there was no intent to break her spine. Please tell me how that can be a conviction for assault great bodily harm or a manslaughter charge. She had bruises. Sounds like a simple assault and battery.

Appropriately is a minimum sentence of 3 years under existing law, if he lives in Florida like his twitter profile says he does.
Because of how frail they are, attacks on the elderly are treated differently than attacks on other people. You don't need manslaughter or anything else, simple aggravated assault (Which seems entirely warrented for a body slam onto concrete and then throwing in a pool) will do fine. And it's an automatic felony.

Here's the relevant section from the Florida criminal code regarding the minimum sentence of 3 years:
"784.08 Assault or battery on persons 65 years of age or older; reclassification of offenses; minimum sentence.—
(1) A person who is convicted of an aggravated assault or aggravated battery upon a person 65 years of age or older shall be sentenced to a minimum term of imprisonment of 3 years and fined not more than $10,000 and shall also be ordered by the sentencing judge to make restitution to the victim of such offense and to perform up to 500 hours of community service work. Restitution and community service work shall be in addition to any fine or sentence which may be imposed and shall not be in lieu thereof."

So he'll be off to jail for 3 years, at an absolute minimum. Dude is fucked, hard.

Post: #124

(05-11-2017 11:19 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  After looking at the vid again it is not really a deliberate thug attack. It is more something stupid and exuberant that he did.

You are right. It was stupid, and it was exuberant. Easy mistake to make.

I do it all the time, walking around the mean streets of the Tottenham High Road. Some black lady asks me to turn my headphones down. I dunk her. I don't mean to. It's ok. No one else seems to mind. They accept my stupidness and exuberance.

I'm being sarcastic.

Again, one more time for feeling. If this thug had done this to my mother, then I would have got stupid and exuberant on his arse. I couldn't let that go man. How could I? Could you?

Even if she didn't have a broken back or ended up drowning. Could you take the loss of face and humiliation? Do you think any of those punks would ever show you respect ever again if you let it go? They aren't your friend bro.

And I say all this, as if all of those dudes were white. They might be Russian. Still, everything I said applies.

I know I'm never going to get in to such a scenario. And I would lock my stupid arse bitch mother down to make sure she didn't get us all in to a situation we couldn't get ourselves out of. But really. You would let someone do that to your mum and let it go? Or your girlfriend even?

I would never do that to anyone. People think I'm a pussy because of that. They mistake my kindness and my niceness for weakness. I beg to differ.

If I was the bigger man, and subscribed to the higher doctrines of Buddhist thought, I would of course let it go.

But I'd rather do time than reach enlightenment on this one. That is why I said I would have shot up all his mates too. In for a penny in for a pound. If you can't keep your boy in line, pay the price.

Then again, I'm probably just an internet warrior, and I would have just gone out and handed them a crate of beer for dunking my Mum on her back. All in the name of achieving buddahood and race relations. Bit of a problem if they were white, but we could call it international relations.

Big aggressive men get to throw their weight around by virtue of the fact that they are big and aggressive men. And usually they have the numbers too.

I've never once seen a single 5'4" bloke kick off against a pack of 6, 6'5" men. Not once. Why is that I wonder.

I get it. The dude was stoked. He over reacted. Let's not hang him over it. But let's not give him a pussy pass either. Coz that is what he got here. Only pussies do that to women. It's not like she was being cuntish about things. I would hope that we know the difference here.

Just remember, all I've said goes as much for Ivan as it does for Leroy.

The self-hate would eat me away. I wouldn't be able to live with myself.

Remember this the next time you slam-dunk some old lady on the concrete and dump her in the pool. People might surprise you!

Post: #125

(05-12-2017 04:55 PM)scrambled Wrote:  A whole lotta virtue signaling in favor of a clumsy and aggressive old woman, who thought nothing could ever touch her, and that everyone is the same.

Fact is, IF she had called the cops already, why confront an unruly mob? Why not just wait? To tell them she ratted them out? Why confront them unnecessarily and expect 100 people to obey some goofy old woman?

Are you seriously inferring that this woman is responsible for what happened to her?

Normally team Diversity try to apply that on a broader societal scale, but you seem to actually be claiming on this individual level that she's the guilty party here.

What's the inference? That if she just cowered in her apartment then she would never have been assaulted, so really, this is her fault?

I'm interested to know if this is a valid defence in court. "Your honour, if that old lady just stayed in her apartment then this would never have happened..."