Post: #51

(03-17-2017 02:07 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  I wish the article gave more details about the law and the case.  They don't tell us what the judge was basing her ruling on.  

According to Wikipedia (for what that's worth), this is Scotland's statutory rape law:

In Scotland, the Sexual Offences (Scotland) Act 2009 also fixes an age of consent of 16, and is also two tiered, treating children under 13 differently than children 13–16. Section 18, Rape of a young child, applies to children under 13. Before the enactment of this Act, Scotland had very few statutory sexual offences, with most of its sexual legislation being defined at common law, which was increasingly seen as a problem in particular for the issue of consent.[36] The creation of a two tier age limit was deemed very important during the drafting of the Act.

QC we still have Scots Law (somewhat!) from nearly a thousand years ago. 


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_law



As we had to Marry off our infant Heirs to Foreign Nobility to stop our Country from falling into the hands of the Enemy!

It was only in 1929 the law was changed to only allow Marriage between couples of at least 16 years. Beforehand a boy of 14 years or a girl of 12 years could Marry without parental consent!

I gather the States in the US that allowed Marriage at 14 years took it from this. Just checked, New Hampshire with parental consent 13 years for girls 14 years for boys.

In 2009 new legislation passed, including the law on rape. Previously, rape of a minor, as of any rape, was only considered such, if it was a male penis entering a female vagina, under 14 years was considered a minor.


http://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2009/9/contents


From Wikipedia:

Quote:Sections 18-47 of the Act are on the subject of sexual offences relating to children, and to people under a duty of care such as mentally disordered persons. A person under the age of 16 cannot consent to a sexual activity in Scots law, and two key offences exist: 'Rape of a Young Child' (if the child is aged 0-13), and 'Rape of an Older Child' (aged between 13-15). It is a defence in the latter to argue a reasonable belief that the child had attained age 16, but there is no similar defence regarding the former offence.

Let's not forget, this young lad has pleaded guilty in a court of law to the charge of 'rape of a young child'.His name and picture have gone viral, both have been splashed over the media globally.His life is already fucked.

 There is no defence, as per the law above, to fucking a child who is 12 years old, no matter what they look like, whether they consented or not, also from the age of 13-15 consent is unable to be given by a child.

Lady Scott has taken the view of "exceptional circumstances" in sentencing.

The "exceptional circumstances" were:

Her physical appearance...the Police had no concern of her age when they came upon her at 3am, the taxi driver who picked them up thought she looked around 20 years old, she had told the lad and his friend that she was 16 and her friend was 17.

She was also an "active participant" in sexual activity....which I don't know if that means during this encounter, or if she admitted in the previous hearing, to prior sexual activity before this incident.

The Judge I feel will face a shitstorm over this, by setting a precedent that was argued during the legislation debates, that now anyone can have sex with a 13 year old, get a couple of mates and a taxi driver to say they looked 16 and 'hey presto' it doesn't even get to court. The Gary Glitter brigade will be on their way in droves.

Firstly she allowed, because the girl was a couple of months from her 13th Birthday, the evidence usually associated with the 'older child' defence of 'reasonable belief that the child had attained age 16'. Then used the defence of this with the mitigating circumstances to say "justice is best served" with an absolute discharge. As Zelcorpian said the Globalists want the age of consent taken down, they have been in control of my Country for nearly 40 years now and I see this as their move to start the normalisation of the paedos.

The Absolute Discharge means no jail time, no criminal record and no sexual offender register. The conviction will only appear if the defendant appears in court again, where it can be used as a previous conviction.

a Scottish tabloid Wrote:A student who admitting raping a 12 year-old girl today walked free from court.

A judge showed leniency to Daniel Cieslak by handing him an absolute discharge meaning he escaped further punishment.

The shock move happened as the 21 year-old returned to the High Court in Glasgow having earlier pled guilty to a rape charge.

The student had sex with the child in July 2015 after meeting her at a taxi queue in Edinburgh city centre.

Cieslak had believed she was 16. He later burst into tears when police revealed her true age.

Lady Scott today said she had decided “justice is best served” by taking the “wholly exceptional decision” to give Cieslak an absolute discharge.

She told the court the statutory rape offence had a “very wide scope” with, as a result, a “variation” in sentencing.

The judge went on: “The fact the Lord Advocate decided it was in the public interest in bringing this prosecution does not limit my discretion in deciding the appropriate disposal.”

She said the purpose of the offence was to “protect young girls” - but added there were “exceptional circumstances” in this case.

The number of factors included Cieslak – and other witnesses – believing the victim was 16 or older.

Lady Scott said the 12 year-old was also an “active participant” in sexual activity and that there was no suggestion of “predatory conduct” or grooming.

The judge concluded: “I am satisfied you have been subject to considerable pressure and distress from the burden of this prosecution.

“I do not consider there is any need – or public interest – in punishment.

“To do so would, in my view, be disproportionate given the nature of the criminal culpability here.”

Cieslak, of the capital's Leith, will also avoid being on the sex offenders list.

He appeared to be on the verge of tears as he left the dock. Cieslak was then hugged by a number of weeping women who had joined him at court.

A hearing was last month told how the victim and a teenage friend had been in Edinburgh city centre on July 31 2015.

In the early hours of the next morning, police were in Princes Street following a report of a missing girl.

The 12 year-old happened to direct officers to the child they were looking for.

Despite the time, prosecutor Kath Harper explained: “Police spoke to (the girl who was raped), but did not note her details as they were not concerned by her age.”

The girl and her friend were later in taxi queue when they got talking to Cieslak and his pal.

They all got in a cab together and headed to a flat in the city's Gorgie.

It was there Cieslak and the 12 year-old began kissing before the Polish-born student had sex with her.

Days later, the youngster told her sister she was “extremely worried” she could be pregnant

Miss Harper told the court: “She was distressed at this time.”

The 12 year-old's GP “encouraged” her to go to the police. It was the girl's sister who reported the incident.

Cieslak later admitted he had sex with the girl, but denied it was rape.

He said he was told the girl was 16.

Prosecutor Miss Harper said: “When it became clear police were suggesting she was younger, he asked them what age she was.

“When told she was 12 years-old, he started to cry and held his head in his hands.”

Cieslak had been due to start an Architectural Technology course at Napier University at the time. He had been studying engineering.

His lawyer David Nicolson said Cielsak “genuinely believed” the girl was years older.

3am she directed Police to the reported missing child.  

Where were all the fuckin Parent(s)? They all deserve a trip in front of a judge too.

Well I suppose at least one Parent noticed their kid was missing. Fuck!

(03-18-2017 10:32 AM)scotian Wrote:  I've never been to Scotland but I've read enough Irvine Welsh's novels (author or Trainspotting) to know that this is the type of shit that goes down in Leith, Edinburgh.

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Hey scotian, the invite still stands.

Irvine got all his stories first hand from people that grew up in the housing scheme's (project's) he only elaborated on them.

The scheme's are full of hood rats like this and I would guarantee she had been pumped at least 20 times by the local bro's before she decided to pop on the high heels and head up town. Fuck no doubt she's probably up around the 50 mark now with her 'celebrity status', she may even make Roosh's 100 before she's even legal!

'Skagboys' was set around the time at the end of the fight against Globalism in Scotland. All our heavy industries had been stripped away finishing with the coal miners strikes. The inner cities, scheme's, most of the male population infact found themselves unemployed with no signs of any jobs to replace the lost ones (sound familiar?). Glue bags gave way to 'teenth's of hash and £1 bags of skag (heroin, for the unaware). Social housing had become scarce because of 'The Right To Buy'. Preference were given to single mothers who then shacked up with numerous partners, on the sly obviously, and then popped out kid after kid. Fast forward 35 odd years and no doubt the girl from this case is a product of that environment.

And fuck Frankie's RELAX. We ended up, during those dark days with the unenviable tag of 'the AIDS Capital of Europe'. Faggots.

Post: #52

There might be too much truth in this thread.

Basic idea: Girls mature faster than men, and stop maturing sooner.

Only problem is, we have societal rules to the contrary.

Hence this forum rule:

Quote:11. No jailbait/illegal/p4p threads. Do not talk about where to find girls under 18 or how to have sex with them, even if it's legal in the location being discussed. Do not post sexy pictures of girls that are confirmed to be under 18. Do not talk about illegal drug use, breaking the law, or prostitution.

A good rule, not for the sake of truth, but of practicality.

No one can handle the red pill truth of women. We pretend it ain't so.

Aw shucks, they're just kids.

They aren't hitting on you, they are just testing limits or seeing what power they have.

Yeah.

Women think that they are the glue that holds society together.

Nopes.

Society is held together by men controlling their urges for the sake of the common good.

The first time you are a fifty year old and a 17 year old gives you her phone number out of the blue you become painfully aware of this fact.

Accent on the painfully.

Or, to paraphrase Norm MacDonald:

Some things you don't do not because they are wrong, but because they are against the law.




We are piloting this baby, and making sacrifices to keep it sailing smoothly, and don't let any feminists tell you different.

And thank god for that.

Post: #53

(03-17-2017 03:37 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  She is one fake id away from becoming a weapon of ass destruction.

Weapon of ass destruction.

Post: #54

(03-19-2017 06:26 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  The one think I like about Atlanta and several other southern States is they lowered the age of consent to 16 which is somewhat reasonable. At least if a girl is driving and lies and says she is 18, she has a drivers licence and insurance so you are not facing prison, just angry parents.

I am not a lawyer, but aren't there still ten ways to get fucked til Sunday if she's under 18, in most states? Not being close in age is one exception, another being from out of state (crossing state lines)...etc. This isn't something to fuck around with.

Data sheet maps

Post: #55

(03-19-2017 01:23 PM)polar Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 06:26 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  The one think I like about Atlanta and several other southern States is they lowered the age of consent to 16 which is somewhat reasonable. At least if a girl is driving and lies and says she is 18, she has a drivers licence and insurance so you are not facing prison, just angry parents.

I am not a lawyer, but aren't there still ten ways to get fucked til Sunday if she's under 18, in most states? Not being close in age is one exception, another being from out of state (crossing state lines)...etc. This isn't something to fuck around with.

This is true. If I have a 16 year old girlfriend, which is legal, she cannot send me nudes- she would be producing child porn, I would be receiving and possessing it (even if I deleted it immediately and told her never to do it again). Also because she is a minor if I take her on vacation to Florida the law says I am taking a minor over state lines for sex-Technically I can take her to Florida, we just cannot have sex there.Furthermore I cannot drink with her or do any illicit substances, that is contributing to the delinquency of a minor. So the law is reasonable in some respects, but an asshole cop or prosecutor can make life difficult if they so choose.

Post: #56

Yeah i was taught girls are more mature than boys. guess that's not the case when in the law is involved.

Post: #57

(03-19-2017 03:26 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 01:23 PM)polar Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 06:26 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  The one think I like about Atlanta and several other southern States is they lowered the age of consent to 16 which is somewhat reasonable. At least if a girl is driving and lies and says she is 18, she has a drivers licence and insurance so you are not facing prison, just angry parents.

I am not a lawyer, but aren't there still ten ways to get fucked til Sunday if she's under 18, in most states? Not being close in age is one exception, another being from out of state (crossing state lines)...etc. This isn't something to fuck around with.

This is true. If I have a 16 year old girlfriend, which is legal, she cannot send me nudes- she would be producing child porn, I would be receiving and possessing it (even if I deleted it immediately and told her never to do it again). Also because she is a minor if I take her on vacation to Florida the law says I am taking a minor over state lines for sex-Technically I can take her to Florida, we just cannot have sex there.Furthermore I cannot drink with her or do any illicit substances, that is contributing to the delinquency of a minor. So the law is reasonable in some respects, but an asshole cop or prosecutor can make life difficult if they so choose.

There's a big consent sex scandal happening now in Canada involving a senator and a woman he banged when she was 18 but apparently he "groomed" her according to police, the senator is black so he's pulling the race card: Don Meredith 'groomed' teen for sex, former police chief says

Quote: Meredith maintains he didn't have intercourse with the woman until she turned 18. Ottawa Police investigated the allegations but didn't lay charges against Meredith. The age of consent in Canada is 16 years old, except for the exploitative situations described in section 153. White said the Criminal Code provision describes what Meredith is alleged to have done. "It talks about people in a position of trust or power who literally groom someone between the age of 16 and 18 years for sexual favour. That's exactly what is described by the [Senate] investigator," he said.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/don-mered...-1.3329776

Fuck this grooming bullshit, so what he chatted with a teenager? He did the right thing by waiting until she was 18 to go for the bang, maybe it was a bit greasy to do this if he was married but fuck it, sex between two consenting adults shouldn't be shamed. As Pierre Trudeau once quipped "there's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation."

Post: #58

"Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed", they used to say.

Although I reflexively recoil at the thought of sexing up an adolescent, there is something to be said for marrying them off in their mid teens (hello Quinceaneras, Bat Mitzvahs, and Sweet Sixteens---all ceremonies releasing the debutante into the world of courtship).

As irritating as teen girls are, they are wonderfully malleable. Imagine how sweet a person your wife could become if you became the male authority in her life when she was only a handful of years past girlhood---rather than after she had experienced a decade plus of using her pussy pass to get what she wanted, becoming a hardened bitch in the process.

There's a reason Roosh named his site "Return of KINGS", not "The Incel Strikes Back"

Post: #59

There was this classic sequence from Animal House. Observe that the girl comes after him as much as he goes after her:

Post: #60

(03-17-2017 03:37 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

(03-17-2017 02:37 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Girls are going through puberty at earlier ages. If you saw the "Cash Me outside" girl outside on the street, would you guess she's 13?

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I honestly did not know about this girl until just now but she is a perfect example of why Statutory Rape Laws do not need to be strict liability. She is exactly the fatherless, poorly supervised, manipulative girl who could easily fuck up a man's life. All it takes is her getting into a bar, a nightclub, or college party and it is game over for whichever man picks her up. She is one fake id away from becoming a weapon of ass destruction. Imagine some college sophomore at a pregame keg party the night before homecoming drunk and horny running into her at a frathouse-48 hours and a smartphone video later-Child pornography frathouse rape party at State University article on every news channel.

Hold on Hold on Hold on..........

If a man ONS a girl he met at a bar and she turn out to be underaged, HE would face charges? Wouldn't the bar be liable for letting her in the bar in the first place?

Post: #61

Around 14 years old some girls can pass for 18. 12 is pushing it but could have passed for 16 (legal in some states) I suppose.

I would rather a judge throw it out as a regular thing then be forced to ask for ID (I tell them to buy me smokes if it's questionable, I'm not at the point of consent contracts etc Chapelle style at this point.)

Post: #62

(03-19-2017 03:50 PM)scotian Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 03:26 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 01:23 PM)polar Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 06:26 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  The one think I like about Atlanta and several other southern States is they lowered the age of consent to 16 which is somewhat reasonable. At least if a girl is driving and lies and says she is 18, she has a drivers licence and insurance so you are not facing prison, just angry parents.

I am not a lawyer, but aren't there still ten ways to get fucked til Sunday if she's under 18, in most states? Not being close in age is one exception, another being from out of state (crossing state lines)...etc. This isn't something to fuck around with.

This is true. If I have a 16 year old girlfriend, which is legal, she cannot send me nudes- she would be producing child porn, I would be receiving and possessing it (even if I deleted it immediately and told her never to do it again). Also because she is a minor if I take her on vacation to Florida the law says I am taking a minor over state lines for sex-Technically I can take her to Florida, we just cannot have sex there.Furthermore I cannot drink with her or do any illicit substances, that is contributing to the delinquency of a minor. So the law is reasonable in some respects, but an asshole cop or prosecutor can make life difficult if they so choose.

There's a big consent sex scandal happening now in Canada involving a senator and a woman he banged when she was 18 but apparently he "groomed" her according to police, the senator is black so he's pulling the race card: Don Meredith 'groomed' teen for sex, former police chief says

Quote: Meredith maintains he didn't have intercourse with the woman until she turned 18. Ottawa Police investigated the allegations but didn't lay charges against Meredith. The age of consent in Canada is 16 years old, except for the exploitative situations described in section 153. White said the Criminal Code provision describes what Meredith is alleged to have done. "It talks about people in a position of trust or power who literally groom someone between the age of 16 and 18 years for sexual favour. That's exactly what is described by the [Senate] investigator," he said.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/don-mered...-1.3329776

Fuck this grooming bullshit, so what he chatted with a teenager? He did the right thing by waiting until she was 18 to go for the bang, maybe it was a bit greasy to do this if he was married but fuck it, sex between two consenting adults shouldn't be shamed. As Pierre Trudeau once quipped "there's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation."

This reminds me of one of Roosh's quotes

"Anything you do that increases your ability to be sexually successful while decreasing your dependence on dating American women will result in them trying to isolate and disparage you."

God forbid the man use the status he worked his as off to get for his benefit.

I don't necessarily approve of any cheating for a man/women who is married but to say its a bigger problem because he banged a 18 year old he "groomed" is preposterous

Post: #63

(03-17-2017 02:37 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Girls are going through puberty at earlier ages. If you saw the "Cash Me outside" girl outside on the street, would you guess she's 13?

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Eminem asks Dre to look at her bush does it got hair (Got Milk? parody) LoL.

By the way regarding AoC to other posters, Roosh already stated in his 2015 World Tour that lowering the Age of consent will only apply to the Elite, LGBT and feministe people. That Cash Me out chick will still be considered illegal jailbait that I wouldn't even be surprised if a male accidentally smelled her farts it will be considered "rape".

So you may find the Aoc for Girls to increase to 21 for hetero-sex, while the female teacher is getting fucked inside her glasshouse by a 5-year-old boy who reached puberty earlier from GMO foods and early Introduction to Sexual Education at school.

Post: #64

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XVrHvo_OssE

Post: #65

I feel like a man of average sensibilities could tell if a girl was 12. But then again, after reading this thread, I'm not so sure.

Post: #66

RIslander I agree 12 is pushing it hard, even if they have some curves it should be pretty obvious as far as I'm concerned. There's some dumb people out there, either this dude was dumb or caught a big break.

Post: #67

(03-18-2017 09:44 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  From Excelsior in funny pictures thread.




Pretty much sums it up but she does look like a child.

This chick knows how to twerk her ass at 13?


Hopefully, there aren't unsuspecting men who wouldn't be coerced by that chick to drain out their bank account or throw racks, bricks and the entire Cash supply from the Federal Reserve bank vault at that bitch who wanna play like she 18 and up. It's not that easy to recognize that she under 18 if you can only see her twerking in a video. You can hardly see her face, which appears to be modified to look older, like at least 16 or 17.

Post: #68

(03-19-2017 03:50 PM)scotian Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 03:26 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 01:23 PM)polar Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 06:26 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  The one think I like about Atlanta and several other southern States is they lowered the age of consent to 16 which is somewhat reasonable. At least if a girl is driving and lies and says she is 18, she has a drivers licence and insurance so you are not facing prison, just angry parents.

I am not a lawyer, but aren't there still ten ways to get fucked til Sunday if she's under 18, in most states? Not being close in age is one exception, another being from out of state (crossing state lines)...etc. This isn't something to fuck around with.

This is true. If I have a 16 year old girlfriend, which is legal, she cannot send me nudes- she would be producing child porn, I would be receiving and possessing it (even if I deleted it immediately and told her never to do it again). Also because she is a minor if I take her on vacation to Florida the law says I am taking a minor over state lines for sex-Technically I can take her to Florida, we just cannot have sex there.Furthermore I cannot drink with her or do any illicit substances, that is contributing to the delinquency of a minor. So the law is reasonable in some respects, but an asshole cop or prosecutor can make life difficult if they so choose.

There's a big consent sex scandal happening now in Canada involving a senator and a woman he banged when she was 18 but apparently he "groomed" her according to police, the senator is black so he's pulling the race card: Don Meredith 'groomed' teen for sex, former police chief says

Quote: Meredith maintains he didn't have intercourse with the woman until she turned 18. Ottawa Police investigated the allegations but didn't lay charges against Meredith. The age of consent in Canada is 16 years old, except for the exploitative situations described in section 153. White said the Criminal Code provision describes what Meredith is alleged to have done. "It talks about people in a position of trust or power who literally groom someone between the age of 16 and 18 years for sexual favour. That's exactly what is described by the [Senate] investigator," he said.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/don-mered...-1.3329776

Fuck this grooming bullshit, so what he chatted with a teenager? He did the right thing by waiting until she was 18 to go for the bang, maybe it was a bit greasy to do this if he was married but fuck it, sex between two consenting adults shouldn't be shamed. As Pierre Trudeau once quipped "there's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation."

There are white knight cops in Canada who will claim that a 30+ female teacher who fucks a 16-year-old schoolboy in her car after school isn't committing a crime, but a young man in his early 20s who receive sexting pics from a 17-year-old chick will be arrested for a child rape-related crime such as electronic grooming of minor on internet.

Hey, there was even that story in Toronto about some thot teacher named Nathalie Champagne who videoed herself on Skype sucking a 16-year-old boy's cock on a Skype conference between other under-age male students who were reportedly masturbating to the video of her acting sexy to her student...She only lost her Teaching license...No reported arrest.

Post: #69

When the cash me outside thing was all over youtube I saw one video of her going in on this girl called "Malu", who is a 14 year old "belly dancer" on youtube. Not going to link to them because I'm not sure why they haven't been taken down yet.

I think it's a bit weird and scary to see 13-14 year old girls like this sexualized so early to the point where it's just not possible to tell the difference. It's all an effect of the sick western culture: a woman rewarded with hundreds of millions of dollars, goddess like worship the world over... effectively for banging Ray J on camera. And as much of a creative genius some people regard Kanye may be, he is still worshipping a whore and has made her the mother of his children. For someone so intelligent it's disappointing that he bought into the hype as well.

Now 13 year old girls are putting in ass implants, plastering on makeup, not going a day without having a boyfriend otherwise they would die, broadcasting it to the world as if it's something to be proud of? A few quotes from this 13-14 year old Malu chick: "I've only kissed 20 guys. That's not a lot." and "Me and my bf broke up. I want to [die]. I want to be in a car accident."

There is the nature versus nurture argument regarding mental illness. I believe that in the Anglosphere in particular and some other parts of the west, both politics and pop culture trends have converged to create an increasingly strong "nurture" component in young women's likelihood of developing this particular sort of mental illness, which when combined with the inherent genetic nature of women is creating quite a scary epidemic indeed.

The knock on effect of this is of course mental illness in adolescent men and men in general: a large part of a man's mental health is determined by the quantity and quality of intimate relationships he has with women. If the supply of women is so widely and severely affected with a certain mental illness that renders them attention seeking whores from an increasingly young age, then inevitably insufferable into "older" age (by "older" I mean 18+ in this context!)... men, too, are more likely to go insane. Hence the 3.5:1 male:female suicide rate. A girl at 14 may feel she "wants to die" when she breaks up with her boyfriend and cuts herself, but two days later she jumps on another dick and is on top of the world. Adolescent men and men in general don't have that luxury. We either adapt in some way (e.g. high level game, expatriation, MGTOW etc.) or die, all too often by our own hand.

Post: #70

After watching Malu dance, and seeing her and Danielle go at it I have discover that the only way to really know a girls age is to really have a conversation with them while you are completely sober. Malu is calm enough where it might take a few minutes to figure out she is a 15 year old (one year from legal in Georgia ) , that crazy Danellie girl would just take roughly 5-10 seconds before her age shows. It is king of crazy because when I was 24 I had an 18 year old girlfriend who would regularly get called out by other 21 year olds for being under age when I got her in the clubs, and she looked a lot like Malu back in 1999 when I was on the rave scene hardcore. When I was 26 my girlfriend was 17 but she was a freshman in college from Russia and nobody could tell she was under 21 because she was very mature in the way she behaved, she used to make fun of 21-26 year old women and call them "stupid American girls" and could not believe how obnoxious they were (keep in mind she graduated high school at 16 and came to America on a full tennis scholarship, so her mind was on another level). As men to protect ourselves we have to only fuck sober women after an hour of conversation with proper ID, and full social media background check-it is the only way to be safe.

Post: #71

That Malu girl has a mother and a father so at least you don't have to worry about her being unsupervised, wild, and out of control at an adult spot with a fake id. If you see Malu on a college campus she will be 18 and in college not 15 with a fake ID. Those videos were kind of funny, Danielle going ballistic and ghetto-and Malu calmly explaining that her parents taught her how to speak properly and act like a calm educated person, at one point she says she cannot understand what Danielle is even saying and she needs to speak clearly and in normal English. America needs more two parent homes.

Post: #72

I can see why you would prefer Malu based on some of the videos. On other videos Malu actually swears more than Cashme ("fucking" and "motherfucking" almost every sentence). There are also signs Malu is in many ways more mentally ill than Cashme. Malu is the kind of girl who can definitely fool you into believing she is 16 or 18 or whatever the legal age is where you live, and manipulate you with her looks and innocent charm.

Malu claims she is a virgin and even if you give her the benefit of the doubt she also admitted to having kissed 20 guys by the time she was 13 years old but thinks that is completely fine. The multiple personality girls are the ones that can be the most dangerous:

crazy+vulgar+slutty/normal+graceful+innocent.

Every girl who is old enough to give birth to an extent has those two sides to her, but there are definite pathological extremes that are quite incredible. "Weapons of ass destruction" indeed.

Cashme has the same two sides, but the feminine "normal" side is rarely apparent and is overshadowed by the strong ghetto, aggressive, crazy, vulgar, slutty side. So with Cashme you know more or less what you are getting. She is more "real" and bizarrely mature for her age in personality as well, even though she is obviously very immature as well. I guess because "in the streets" "keeping it 100" is a virtue. "Fake ass bitches" are not very well looked upon. She is 13 years old and listens to Kodak Black, and understands a lot of the things he raps about. If she were a real child, there is no way she could comprehend any of that shit. I'm not a fan but Kodak is known for rapping very frankly about the most disturbing and depressing things he has seen growing up in the projects.





Instead of this rabid, irrational witch hunt against normal men deceived by manipulative, physically and psychologically grown young women, western society should address the increasingly fast sexualization of pubescent girls and the consequent rapid degradation of their personalities. No longer do we have as the default sweet, innocent, feminine girls who just wish to be good wives and mothers. This has been replaced by CASHMEOUSSIDEHOWBOWDAH and God-tier levels of highly vulgar, highly sexualized attention whoring.

Of course the rot has set in and it's too late now. That's why so much of this forum is about "what is the best shithole I can go to where women are at least tolerable". As the internet and social media spreads across the world, these places become increasingly rare. Why else do men voluntarily go to small 3rd tier towns in Belarus? There you might not have many of the comforts of modern western society but you also have girls that would look upon specimens like Cashme and Malu with complete confusion.

Nobody will be surprised to know that Cashme has now got a reality TV show. One measure of how degenerate a society has become is how degenerate behavior is punished. It's not even punished anymore; it's rewarded. All women see this from a young age and adapt accordingly.

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I agree with everything you wrote, I think the new trend in America is sexualizing thirteen to sixteen year old girls and it is all powered by social media. It is absolutely bizarre to watch it happen in real time so suddenly. I am not into Islam , but this is what they see when they rail against western civilization - my niece is thirteen, I would rather see her put on a burka than become an Instagram THOT. Weimerica is really a thing, they are going to normalize the sexualizing of eleven year olds next-it is coming , mark my words.......

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If any of y'all have Snapchat and notice the "featured" stories it's brutally apparent that Atlanta Man is right. I only use the app for hooking up with chicks (which is disgusting in itself ), but the featured stories which are clearly geared at high school and younger are bizarrely sexual and some just vulgar.

Imagine back in the 90s or whenever time period you want, an 11 year old girl reading a Cosmopolitan slut handbook. They would have had to go to a store and get someone to sell it to them and then hopefully have to sneak it past their folks and read it in hiding or something. Now all of the same info is directly funneled to any young kid with a smart phone for free.

Atlanta Man your signature is great bro.

Post: #75

You guys are not serious there.

Let me historically Red Pill all of YA!

Up until roughly 100 years ago the entire world was one massive fuck-fest where many women of the lower class were losing their virginity as soon as her pussy started to itch them. Also right about the same time the lower bottom 20% were selling pussy. That was the norm in almost all societies. Even the Muslim world was similiar, but there the massive amount of non-Muslim sex-slave girls took their roles. So essentially they only outsourced it to other women that had to be bought and captured as slaves (or born to slaves).

Quote:Sin city: Georgian London evokes images of elegance and fine art... in truth one in five women were prostitutes

20% of women in London in the late 17th century were whores!


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All societies were like that and it was normal. With rising wealth, rise of a large middle class that number of women got less and less. Still - even in the so-called conservative 1950s there was a stark surprisingly high number of whores - some cities had 1000% more prostitutes than today!



Why was that?

There was a difference between whores and the women you married with virginity intact (and you married them very early - usually starting at puberty).

Also poverty pushed many women into prostitution early on.

What you are looking at is the last 100 years and being upset about a 13yo whose pussy likely is itching her 10 times more than other girls. Just as there are men out there who have 10 times the libido of other men, there are women out there who have 10 times the libido of other women.

Sure - the internet and slut culture is promoting this behavior without poverty forcing women to do this. But this is nothing new frankly. Instincts are instincts and when they kick in, then they are there.

This is the norm for all of human history. We can muse around here and construct our ideal social systems, but putting a Burka on your female children is not worth it. That crap comes with it's own set of problems and they are worse than rampant slutting around.


No sluts, no prostitutes, no slave girls - then you have ladyboys - enjoy - the best of Pakistan.

Most women unless they have terrible role models can reign in their instincts in our times as well in the West.

The reality of sex starting at puberty has to be faced as the norm throughout all of human history. And frankly this will probably be the norm in 2000 years when humanity has interstellar travel.

The pendulum of degeneration will swing back to conservatism. That also isn't the first time in human history. This is not new. It may get worse for a while and then maybe in 80 years most of humanity will be more uptight again. Or they will lower the age of consent to the Japanese 13 years, also let everyone vote and do porn at that age - who knows.

As for maturity - 18 year old men are allowed to march into wars while still being highly immature - being maimed for bullshit causes for the elite. Sometimes you have to live with decisions you make for yourself early on.

Awareness of your actions has to start early - in most of human history it did - only our times are allowing both genders to remain childish for so long:



I am not saying that this is necessarily good in all aspects, but we have to face the fact that we humans can if needs be grow up fast. The ceremonies of Rites of Passage like the Bar Mitzvah is chosen not without reason at age 12. Something similar happened in most cultures - after that you were viewed as a man or a woman, albeit a very young one. Still - you could marry already or start working.

Either way - our current perception of "childhood" and "adolescence" is not based on biology frankly.