Post: #151

So there's a little-known chapter in this whole matter. I doubt many would have heard about this.

The man at the centre of it all is Billie Sol Estes. His entry into this entire quagmire began relatively innocuously, as it involved the death of a man more than two decades prior.

Quote:In 1961, Henry Marshall was found shot to death on his remote Texas farm. He had been shot five times with a .22 caliber rifle and, since the rifle was lying beside his body, the coroner had no problem coming up with the probable scenario: Suicide

By the time Marshall died, Estes was a very wealthy man, however he had been involved in some dishonest business practices, which eventually led to his conviction.

Quote:Henry Marshall, in reviewing the cotton allotment irregularities connected with Billy Sol Estes, evidently uncovered a warm path that led to Vice President Johnson, but also to his own untimely death. Billie Sol went to trial and then prison, never once breathing the name of Lyndon Johnson - until his release in 1984. A Texas Ranger, Clint Peoples, had befriended Estes and convinced him that he should come clean with the whole truth. True to his word, Estes agreed to appear before a Robertson County grand jury and clear the record concerning the cotton allotments, the death of Henry Marshall and the involvement of LBJ and others. He recounted the whole ugly picture - from the millions he had funnelled into Johnson's secret slush fund, to the illegal cotton allotment scheme, to the murder of Henry Marshall. Estes testified that Lyndon Johnson, Cliff Carter, Malcolm Wallace and himself met several times to discuss the issue of the "loose cannon" - Henry Marshall. Marshall had refused a LBJ-arranged promotion to Washington headquarters, and it was feared that he was about to talk. Johnson, according to Estes finally said, "Get rid of him," and Malcolm "Mac" Wallace was given the assignment. According to testimony, Wallace followed Marshall to a remote area of his farm and beat him nearly unconscious. Then while trying to asphyxiate him with exhaust from Marshall's pickup truck, Wallace thought he heard someone approaching the scene, and hastily grabbed a rifle which customarily rested in the window rack of the truck. Quickly pumping five shots into Marshall's body, Wallace fled the scene. Suicide. That 1984 grand jury testimony accomplished only one official action. Marshall's death certificate was finally changed to read: "Cause of death - murder by gunshot." All of the guilty participants were dead - Johnson, Carter and Wallace. The only one left was Estes, and the U. S. Justice Department, getting wind of the Robertson grand jury testimony, wanted to talk to him. A letter was sent to Estes, requesting a meeting with him to discuss the provocative charges he had made. Estes enlisted the legal services of Douglas Caddy to represent him in the matter. Caddy then wrote a letter to the Justice Department asking for the protection of immunity, among other things for his client. In his letter, Caddy outlined far more than the Justice Dept. had bargained for. In addition to the crimes Estes had testified to for the Robertson County grand jury, Estes listed seven more murders directly linked to Lyndon Johnson, one of them being that of President John F. Kennedy; and all of them at the hand of Malcolm Wallace. After many months of negotiating at the highest levels of the Justice Department, Estes refused to testify to federal officials regarding the details of these crimes of the 1960's.

Here's where it really gets interesting

Quote:A few months after the November, 1995 release of our book: "THE MEN ON THE SIXTH FLOOR," I received two of these letters of negotiation, from two different sources. The content of these letters was startling. These letters have never been released to the public and since they are private negotiations between the Justice Department and a citizen, it is doubtful that they ever would have been released, even to the Assassination Records Revue Board, whose federally mandated job it is to examine and oversee the release of documents pertaining to the assassination of President Kennedy.

(letter number 1 from the Justice Dept. is pretty bland. The full text is in the link at the bottom).

Quote:LETTER #2 - FROM DOUGLAS CADDY:
August 9, 1984
Mr. Stephen S. Trott
Assistant Attorney General, Criminal Division
U.S. Department of Justice
Washington, D. C. 20530

RE: Mr. Billie Sol Estes

Dear Mr. Trott:

My client, Mr. Estes, has authorized me to make this reply to your letter of May 29, 1984. Mr. Estes was a member of a four-member group, headed by Lyndon Johnson, which committed criminal acts in Texas in the 1960's. The other two, besides Mr. Estes and LBJ, were Cliff Carter and Mac Wallace. Mr. Estes is willing to disclose his knowledge concerning the following criminal offenses:

I. Murders

1. The killing of Henry Marshall
2. The killing of George Krutilek
3. The killing of Ike Rogers and his secretary
4. The killing of Harold Orr
5. The killing of Coleman Wade
6. The killing of Josefa Johnson (Lyndon Johnson's sister)
7. The killing of John Kinser
8. The killing of President J. F. Kennedy.

Mr. Estes is willing to testify that LBJ ordered these killings, and that he transmitted his orders through Cliff Carter to Mac Wallace, who executed the murders. In the cases of murders nos. 1-7, Mr. Estes' knowledge of the precise details concerning the way the murders were executed stems from conversations he had shortly after each event with Cliff Carter and Mac Wallace. In addition, a short time after Mr. Estes was released from prison in 1971, he met with Cliff Carter and they reminisced about what had occurred in the past, including the murders. During their conversation, Carter orally compiled a list of 17 murders which had been committed, some of which Mr. Estes was unfamiliar. A living witness was present at that meeting and should be willing to testify about it. He is Kyle Brown, recently of Houston and now living in Brady, Texas. Mr. Estes, states that Mac Wallace, whom he describes as a "stone killer" with a communist background, recruited Jack Ruby, who in turn recruited Lee Harvey Oswald. Mr. Estes says that Cliff Carter told him that Mac Wallace fired a shot from the grassy knoll in Dallas, which hit JFK from the front during the assassination. Mr. Estes declares that Cliff Carter told him the day Kennedy was killed, Fidel Castro also was supposed to be assassinated and that Robert Kennedy, awaiting word of Castro's death, instead received news of his brother's killing. Mr. Estes says that the Mafia did not participate in the Kennedy assassination but that itparticipation was discussed prior to the event, but rejected by LBJ, who believed if the Mafia were involved, he would never be out from under its blackmail. Mr. Estes asserts that Mr. Ronnie Clark, of Wichita, Kansas, has attempted on several occasions to engage him in conversation. Mr. Clark, who is a frequent visitor to Las Vegas, has indicated in these conversations a detailed knowledge corresponding to Mr. Estes' knowledge of the JFK assassination. Mr. Clark claims to have met with Mr. Jack Ruby a few days prior to the assassination, at which time Kennedy's planned murder was discussed. Mr. Estes declares that discussions were had with Jimmy Hoffa concerning having his aide, Larry Cabell, kill Robert Kennedy while the latter drove around in his convertible. Mr. Estes has records of his phone calls during the relevant years to key persons mentioned in the foregoing account.

Excerpts from the rest of the letter:

Quote:II. The Illegal Cotton Allotments

Mr. Estes desires to discuss the infamous illegal cotton allotment schemes in great detail. He has recordings made at the time of LBJ, Cliff Carter and himself discussing the scheme. These recordings were made with Cliff Carter's knowledge as a means of Carter and Estes protecting them selves should LBJ order their deaths. Mr. Estes believes these tape recordings and the rumors of other recordings allegedly in his possession are the reason he has not been murdered.

Quote:In connection with your Item #3, Mr. Estes states that he never participated in any of the murders. It may be alleged that he participated in subsequent cover-ups. His response to this is that had he conducted himself any differently, he, too, would have been a murder victim. Mr. Estes wishes to confirm that he will abide by the conditions set forth in your letter and that he plans to act with total honesty and candor in any dealings with the Department of Justice or any federal investigative agency. In return for his cooperation, Mr. Estes wishes in exchange his being given immunity, his parole restrictions being lifted and favorable consideration being given to recommending his long-standing tax leins being removed and his obtaining a pardon.

Sincerely yours,

Douglas Caddy

http://home.earthlink.net/~sixthfloor/estes.htm

So apparently Fidel Castro was supposed to have been assassinated on 23 November 1963? And the Mafia wanted to assassinate Robert Kennedy, years before he actually died in 1968. And Lee Harvey Oswald was a co-conspirator who was recruited by none other than Jack Ruby, his eventual killer.
Despite all the information that Estes could have provided about the above claims, and even more, his request for immunity and other indulgences were apparently refused, for reasons I haven't looked into yet. It is quite damning that the Justice Dept. did not see it fit to have the man fully disclose all he knew about parts of the plot to kill JFK. From the little I have seen, he wasn't trying to mislead anyone.

Anyway, unlike so many who knew too much, Estes passed away at the age of 88 years.

Post: #152

Woody Allen shows how JFK assassination theorising can be used as an excuse to next a girl you don't want to bang anymore:

Post: #153

Quote: I've read 6 pages of this thread and I still don't understand WHY exactly was Kennedy killed? What was his worst offense as president?

-How about clandestinely supporting and orchestrating the overthrow and eventual murder of foreign leaders such as the then president of South Vietnam, Ngo Dinh Diem?
-How about multiple failed attempts at knocking off Castro?
-How about bringing the world to the precipice of another world war?

While not an exact answer to your question, its not hard to see how some of the CIAs actions, supported by him, contributed to making him a marked man.

Its worth noting that one of the reasons the U.S. gov't had to sanitize the Warren commission report was because there was a realization that if some of the actions of the CIA came to light, it would lead to a much broader, deeper and damaging inquiry into the covert operations that were being carried out by the CIA, and that would have had far reaching ramifications.

Recently released documents detail the very likely possibility that the man contracted by the CIA to take out Castro was a double agent and possibly leaked the details of the plot to the Soviets/Cubans.

LBJ said of of the Kennedy assassination "He tried to get Castro but Castro got to him first."

Post: #154

What do Andrew Jackson, Jesus, Hitler and JFk have in common? They tried to get rid of the bank.

Post: #155

Have any of the JFK buffs in here read James Ellroy's "American Tabloid" and "The Cold Six Thousand"?

If so, what do you think of his rendition of these conspiracies?

Post: #156

Digital enhancement of several photographs of the Grassy Knoll, taken shortly after noon on 22 November 1963, provide some hints to the identity of JFK's true assassin.

Post: #157

Thatswhatamtalkinbout, Tokyo Joe!

Post: #158

(06-11-2017 01:14 AM)Tokyo Joe Wrote:  Digital enhancement of several photographs of the Grassy Knoll, taken shortly after noon on 22 November 1963, provide some hints to the identity of JFK's true assassin.

That explains everything!

Post: #159

Bringing this thread back from the dead to post a reminder that a fairly significant date is now impending in the release of JFK documents:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-17...assination

Quote:More than 3,000 never-before-seen documents from the FBI, CIA, and Justice Department on the assassination of John F. Kennedy are scheduled be released, with many experts fearing that such a large release of secret JFK assassination documents will spur “a new generation of conspiracy theories.”

ccording to Roger Stone, the CIA is urging President Donald Trump to delay disclosing some of the files for another 25 years.

Roger Stone said in a post on his website…

“They must reflect badly on the CIA even though virtually everyone involved is long dead.”
Newsmax reports:

More than 3,000 never-before-seen documents from the FBI, CIA, and Justice Department are set to be released, along with 30,000 that have only been partially released in the past. The document dump “will simply fuel a new generation of conspiracy theories,” write Philip Shenon and Larry J. Sabato.

Sabato is the director of the University of Virginia Center for Politics and author of “The Kennedy Half-Century” and Shenon is a former reporter for the New York Times and author of, “A Cruel and Shocking Act: The Secret History of the Kennedy Assassination.”

The CIA is urging President Donald Trump to delay disclosing some of the files for another 25 years according to friend and political adviser Roger Stone but the National Archives would not say whether any agencies have appealed the release of the documents.

According to The Gateway Pundit Roger Stone and Gerald Posner, two New York Times bestselling authors who are polar opposites about who killed JFK, have joined together to urge Donald Trump to release all the remaining classified files on Kennedy’s assassination.

About 3,100 files are still sealed in the National Archives. Under the 1992 JFK Records Act, the Archives have until October 26 to decide which of those files to publicly disclose.

Some of the classified documents include a CIA personality study of Oswald, top-secret testimony of former CIA officers to congressional committees, transcripts of interrogations with Soviet defector and Oswald handler Yuri Nosenko, letters about the case from J. Edgar Hoover and Jackie Kennedy, the CIA file on Jack Wasserman, the attorney for New Orleans mob boss Carlos Marcello, and the operational file of E. Howard Hunt, career spy and Watergate burglar.

Roger Stone, in his bestselling 2013 The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ, set forth the case that LBJ was the mastermind of plot that included the CIA, the Mob and Big Texas Oil to kill Kennedy.

Gerald Posner, in his 1993 bestselling finalist for the Pulitzer for History, Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK, concluded that the Warren Commission conclusions are correct and Oswald acting alone had killed Kennedy.

While they might not agree on who killed Kennedy, Stone and Posner are longstanding advocates for the release of all the government files on the assassination.

“These files should have been released long ago,” says Posner. “The government does this all the time, over classified documents and then holds on to them for decades under the guise of ‘national security.’ All the secrecy just feeds people’s suspicions that the government has something to hide and adds fuel to conspiracy theories.” Posner is convinced the case will still be closed when the last document is made public.

”I know CIA Director Pompeo is urging the President to delay release of these records for another 25 years,” said Stone. “They must reflect badly on the CIA even though virtually everyone involved is long dead.” Stone believes the evidence supporting the case in his book is still hidden somewhere in government files.

Both authors called on President Trump – who is empowered to make the final decision should the National Archives or CIA balk on releasing all the files – to opt for transparency.

October 26 is now 8 days away. This needs a quick boost via /pol or some of the other services. Trump is about our best hope for the disclosure of these materials. There is no reason at all now for them not to be turned over to the people.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #160

Post: #161

^^^^

Next up: big false flag operation on 25 October, and at 11:30 pm they grab Trump in the Lincoln bedroom and tell him not to release the documents.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #162

(10-21-2017 08:39 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  ^^^^

Next up: big false flag operation on 25 October, and at 11:30 pm they grab Trump in the Lincoln bedroom and tell him not to release the documents.

Even better actually - He's spending Oct. 25th in Dallas. If they're going to go after him on release day, he's going to make it look a ugly as possibly.

Post: #163

I've looked into this for years and have come to the conclusion Oswald did it himself after seeing the parade route in the paper. It was the opportunity of a lifetime. He could have stood on the sidewalk and shot the president even easier than he did from the textbook depository. CIA fucked up, FBI fucked up. Secret Service fucked up. They should have been on this guy since his coming back from Russia and they let him slip through. He was so crazy nobody took him seriously. Big mistake.

Post: #164

(10-21-2017 09:55 PM)rpg Wrote:  I've looked into this for years and have come to the conclusion Oswald did it himself after seeing the parade route in the paper. It was the opportunity of a lifetime. He could have stood on the sidewalk and shot the president even easier than he did from the textbook depository. CIA fucked up, FBI fucked up. Secret Service fucked up. They should have been on this guy since his coming back from Russia and they let him slip through. He was so crazy nobody took him seriously. Big mistake.

Oswald came back from Russia on a US military jet plane.

Corbett's 4min capsule on the JFK conspiracy:




Longer doc focusing on LH Oswald:

Post: #165

(10-21-2017 09:55 PM)rpg Wrote:  I've looked into this for years and have come to the conclusion Oswald did it himself after seeing the parade route in the paper. It was the opportunity of a lifetime. He could have stood on the sidewalk and shot the president even easier than he did from the textbook depository. CIA fucked up, FBI fucked up. Secret Service fucked up. They should have been on this guy since his coming back from Russia and they let him slip through. He was so crazy nobody took him seriously. Big mistake.

As I posted long ago, this is clear.

The saying is clear and truer than ever when talking about the gov't:

"Never consign to crazy theories or malice what can easily be explained by incompetence"

He did it, Nova proved it all scientifically, and it makes the most sense.

As I also said, who put Oswald up to it, who else was involved, etc. we'll probably never know. Unless these documents clearly show the trail, which I doubt.

Post: #166

What about the bullet that hit Jfk from the front? How did Oswald do tat from the repository?

Post: #167

(10-24-2017 09:36 AM)Chris Brown Wrote:  What about the bullet that hit Jfk from the front? How did Oswald do tat from the repository?

That was Oswald's bullet exiting. Exit wounds are always larger and ghastlier than entry wounds.

Penn and Teller on their Bullshit! show demonstrated that quite convincingly.

Post: #168

(10-21-2017 09:55 PM)rpg Wrote:  I've looked into this for years and have come to the conclusion Oswald did it himself after seeing the parade route in the paper. It was the opportunity of a lifetime. He could have stood on the sidewalk and shot the president even easier than he did from the textbook depository. CIA fucked up, FBI fucked up. Secret Service fucked up. They should have been on this guy since his coming back from Russia and they let him slip through. He was so crazy nobody took him seriously. Big mistake.

Then why the need for Johnson to appoint one of Kennedy's blood enemies (former CIA director Alan Dulles) to chair the Warren Commission? With all the weird irregularities, the simplest solution to me is just another run of the mill coup. It's more believable to me than magical bullets defying the laws of physics and all the other nonsense, and it's a tale as old as time. LBJ desperately wanted to be President, he took the Vice Presidency as cold consolation after Kennedy kicked his ass. Eventually Kennedy pissed off enough people to give Johnson the perfect coalition to seize power. The CIA was probably the best organization in history for pulling off these kinds of coups, and just because their charter says not to do it in the US, they're certainly capable of it with the right backing and the right motivation. And Kennedy had just sacked their longtime leader and was threatening their whole organization after the Bay of Pigs fiasco.

Post: #169

If Oswald was the sole assassin, there would have been no need for the government to classify countless files for 54 years, hide thousands of difference types of evidence, and kill off and silence numerous key witnesses.

Just as an example, on the day of the assassination, more than 15 different people took home movies on or near Dealey Plaza....yet to this day not a single one of these videos is uncut and unedited. They ALL have missing portions in the key moments of the shooting.

If the evidence proved Oswald did it alone, there would be no need to hide anything.

Post: #170

All these key witnesses died within just 3 years of the assassination:






More deaths of key witnesses from 1967 to 1973

Post: #171

The so called Babushka Lady is the only witness on Dealey plaza never to be identified. To this day, no one knows who she really was. All other witnesses were identified, but not her. Nor has her home video ever been published. She had the best, clearest and (above all) closest view of the headshot with the grassy knoll as background.

More interestingly...when the final shots rang out most people hit the ground to avoid being shot....yet this "old lady" just stood there motionless and kept filming JFK's brain being blown apart and splattered across the limo and all over the street like some fucking icy emotionless terminator.

Post: #172

Nah, be good boy and go to sleep. Nothing to see here...

But seriously, discussion about JFK is good red pilling thread for those who get into the whole "conspiracy stuff", even though we will get nothing in a few days.

Post: #173

(10-24-2017 10:10 AM)MOVSM Wrote:  

(10-24-2017 09:36 AM)Chris Brown Wrote:  What about the bullet that hit Jfk from the front? How did Oswald do tat from the repository?

That was Oswald's bullet exiting. Exit wounds are always larger and ghastlier than entry wounds.

Penn and Teller on their Bullshit! show demonstrated that quite convincingly.

Penn and Teller are professional liars, that's what they do for a living. The essence of magic is sleight of hand, and they are masters at it. They have an anti-family, ant-traditionalist liberal political agenda, and are very good at manipulating their public. Like the other popular debunkers, their main staple is mostly easy subjects like bigfoot, astrology or ESP scams. They draw you in with these in order to push a militant atheist agenda, pro-homosexual, pro-degeneracy





Atheism is not in and of itself a terrible thing, I've been one most of my life, but militant atheists like Penn often harbor a hidden, darker set of beliefs, I'm fairly sure he is a satanist, though like many influential satanists, he will not come out and reveal this.


Their case rests on the "jet effect", a phenomenon used to justify why Kennedy's head rocked from front to back despite his (allegedly) getting shot from the back. The sleight of hand here is they used a water balloon to demonstrate this "jet effect", when in fact the human skull is a hard, fairly thick object that wouldn't behave the same way at all.

Had they used say, a coconut instead of a melon, which is a lot more similar to a human skull (hard shell with a soft/liquid interior), they would have seen that the target would move in the direction of the shot, not opposite, as the hard outer shell/skull resists the bullet, which has to push through the hard shell in order to breaks through.

Quote: the shear strength of human bone is so
much greater than that of the melon rind,
the shear forces on the skull are much greater. The
shear force required for a 6.5 millimeter
projectile to penetrate and pass through a live hum
an skull (the average thickness of a human
skull is ¾ of a centimeter or about 0.300 of an inc
h), even using the lower parallel to the grain
bone shear strength, is about 1,700 pounds at both
entrance and exit, or 3,400 pounds total.
Since the same diameter projectile is used and the
same size temporary cavity should occur,
the jet effect will produce a similar amount of for
ce toward the shooter of 413 pounds. The net force
equation for shooting through a live human skull with a
jet effect occurring is then

-413 pounds + 3,400 pounds = + 2,987 pounds

showing the net force on the skull is resoundingly in the direction
of the projectile’s motion.

The trick with the use of the melon, to show the jet effect
could cause it to move towards the shooter, was that the
force required to shear through its skin was so low that it allowed
the jet effect generated force to dominate. This situation
is not true when a human skull is involved.

http://jfklancer.com/pdf/Jet_Effect_Rebu...-2012).pdf

They can get away with this because nearly all their audience has a very limited understanding of ballistics. The notion that someone who is shot in the head would move forwards towards the shot is ridiculous for those with extensive ballistics experience.

Penn and Teller are closet satanists, Penn is a shady character who lives in a dungeon-like house in the Vegas desert. He is reported to have one of the largest collection of macabre and satanic artifacts in America. They're in the business of shaping the public mindset. People like them are behind the recent rise in militant atheism, and the antagonism and disdain and negativeness that many young people have for anything traditional.

Post: #174

(10-24-2017 09:36 AM)Chris Brown Wrote:  What about the bullet that hit Jfk from the front? How did Oswald do tat from the repository?

It didn't, watch the NOVA special.

Post: #175

(10-24-2017 10:10 AM)MOVSM Wrote:  

(10-24-2017 09:36 AM)Chris Brown Wrote:  What about the bullet that hit Jfk from the front? How did Oswald do tat from the repository?

That was Oswald's bullet exiting. Exit wounds are always larger and ghastlier than entry wounds.

Well, apart from the "magic bullet" -- CE399 -- which passes through two human bodies, those of JFK and Governor Connolly, without leaving larger, ghastlier exit wounds in either of them and without basically shattering into tiny pieces as it did. Indeed it was a canard of Lattimer's examination that Kennedy's throat wound -- the magic bullet's exit wound -- was smaller than what he said was the entry wound.



The same gun less than 8 seconds later then fired a bullet that blew the right side of JFK's head apart.

The reason this is not physically possible is because you have a disparity in the results despite the fact the bullets were hitting at pretty close to the same obliquity to the target surface.

I'm being generous here and assuming CE399, the magic bullet that hits Kennedy and passes into Connolly's wrist, was actually fired that day. That result is at least within the bounds of physical possibility because bullets hold together pretty well if they hit their targets at low obliquity, i.e. close to perpendicular. The easiest analogy for this is to consider a cliff diver plunging into the water off a high dive: they work on hitting the water at low obliquity, i.e. 90 degrees, i.e.e. perpendicular, because it maximises shear force from their fingers and allows a minimal splash when they hit. A bullet hitting does similar things on a perpendicular impact: if it hits perpendicular, shear force is maximised and you don't have to spend a lot of momentum penetrating the target. The converse applies if the cliff diver hits the water off-perpendicular, that is, at medium to high obliquity: there's a big splash, most of the momentum is spent across the full surface of the cliff diver hitting the water, and they don't penetrate into the depths anywhere as far.

Bullets are similarly affected when they hit a target even slightly side-on: the bullet starts to tumble easier and breaks up more completely, because the force of impact works on the bullet as well, consequent on Newton's Third Law. Significant damage is done to a bullet that hits at 25-40 degrees oblique to the target. In the case of bullets hitting at the 40 to 60 degree obliquity, the bullet is all but destroyed, shattered.

Simple Pythagorean calculations from the position of JFK's limo and the Texas Book Depository informs us that Oswald could not have fired a shot that possibly hit at 60 degree obliquity: especially with JFK crumpling over in his seat, about the maximum obliquity he could have hit at was around the 20 to 30 degree mark. That is, the sort of obliquity that promotes if not compels a straight-line penetration and smaller exit wound, as happened with the "magic bullet".

The HSCA (House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1979) believed the bullet hit around the middle of the back of JFK's skull and went in a slightly downward direction. Even then they screwed it up: based on the HSCA's calculations, the shooter was floating in mid-air above the Texas Book Depository. The corrected calculations reckon the bullet to have hit at about 25 to 30 degrees oblique to the target. This is not compatible in physics with a blowout of the variety that happened to JFK's head. However, it is compatible with impact at 60 degrees oblique to the target ... and among the places from where you could achieve such obliquity is the grassy knoll.

I know people will say "But Edgewood Arsenal simulated the head explosion 10 times for the Warren Commission."

Let's leave aside all the physical differences between the simulation and real life (dried out skulls, no scalp, ballistic gel instead of brains, etc), the simple fact is that the Edgewood Arsenal simulations were invalid because they were working with a wrong presumption: they were simulating a bullet hit at the base of the skull rising slightly up to blow out above JFK's head. As the HSCA later established, the impact point was in reality good four inches higher, on a different bone of the skull entirely. The Warren Commission assumed JFK was bent over much further than he actually was.

This has very large implications for the test because it changes the obliquity at which the bullet hit, and therefore the results. Edgewood Arsenal's tests perfectly simulated a blowout every time because they were simulating a hit at high obliquity to the target, 60 degrees or so. Per the HSCA's own calculation (11 degrees, which was impossible, or up to 27 degrees on recalculation) this simply did not happen - if the bullet was coming from Oswald.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm