Post: #26

One final thought on our gladly departed troll, Ugh:

Apart from being a player-hater troll, I'm starting to think this might have been a girl. Read the bitchy tone in all of [her] posts above, but especially this one, which didn't sit well with me since the first time I read it.

But, seriously, the player hating has been a little out of control in recent weeks.

Post: #27

(08-23-2011 05:48 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  One final thought on our gladly departed troll, Ugh:

Apart from being a player-hater troll, I'm starting to think this might have been a girl. Read the bitchy tone in all of [her] posts above, but especially this one, which didn't sit well with me since the first time I read it.

But, seriously, the player hating has been a little out of control in recent weeks.

Just for clarification:

I welcome anyone here who consistently contributes, and adds value to the forum by way of reports, lay strategies, game breakdown and analysis to challenge my views or anyone else they disagree with. I know I am not always right or have a total clear picture of many aspects of game...we are always learning, including myself.

Noobies should be VERY CAREFUL on how they challenge (aka DIS) all senior members. When in doubt, a PM to a member is the best option to get clarification or state your opinion.

Act up, and ANY of the senior members will recommend you be banned for trollin', and Roosh knows we do this to sustain a great forum, not for a power trip!

I would love to keep this forum as awesome as it has become, but many trolls will do their best to compromise that.

Just the way it is until you earn your stripes.


Game on!


Mixx

Post: #28

I'd go with Lumiere's advice about a rocker look.
Personally I wouldn't sport a gothic or emo look, i'd rather cut of my own balls, but a rocker look is something that is edgy enough to appeal to the kind of girl you want to lay.

Thats Nicki Sixx, he has mad presence. I remember seeing him at a book signing and there were some damn hot chicks in line and girls going crazy over him.

While you don't need to get the tattoos wearing some black leather and having your hair done a little differently could help.
I would also suggest taking a couple of hours to familiarize yourself with the music genres girls like these listen to. Having knowledge of heavy metal may be useful too.

Post: #29

Quote:But, seriously, the player hating has been a little out of control in recent weeks.

Haters are like big waves... usually comes in bunches. They seem to "pile on" at the same time.

I had a big hater cycle over at the blog a month ago where I was banning 5 IP addresses a day. Since then it's been quiet.

Also I can confirm that Ugg is definitely a guy. He posts often on my blog. I know the blog has more of a "wild west" feel to it so I'm guessing he thought that would be allowed here. Just another case of a guy not reading (or following) the forum rules.

Post: #30

All the senior members are really nice on here. You guys even check out the noob forum consistently and help out. I really wish I could understand why people have bad attitudes.

Post: #31

Something I forgot, which torontokid reminded me of: Long Hair. Not a must, but it probably reduce the effort you need for these chicks by half, if you get a good long hair style that doesn't look like a queer and fits your overall fisique.

The girl I slayed, (which was my girlfriend for a while) loved the long hair, even though my hair was never that long.

Mixx, have you ever rocked out long hair?

Post: #32

The gothic chick I banged was more of a rocker. Heavily tatted up, VERY aggressive. She came up to me, I ran my regular game. Once you pass all her shit tests (MANY) the panties drop (though this one wasn't wearing any ).

These chicks vary, but they usually KNOW what type of guy they are looking for beforehand so unless you fit that (i.e. piercings, tats, certain style) they may not give you a second glance. Note: I was wearing a T-shirt and jeans, nothing special.

My advice: Pick the right low-key venue where these chicks frequent in your city, dress down, and just play it cool. You'll know when these chicks dig you because they either A) approach first or B) give you more than one look. I was actually hanging out at an Irish bar in Northern Virginia with my dad when this chick came up to me and ended up taking me home. He was pissed that I left him there but it was totally worth it.

GOOD LUCK & I wanna hear it once you get the bang! Mine was a FREAK!

Post: #33

Goth/vampire chicks are freaky as hell. I dated one when I was a senior in high school and damn she was a real freak. She loved role playing, sex toys, and talking dirty.

Post: #34

(08-23-2011 08:05 PM)Jason Zee Wrote:  Goth/vampire chicks are freaky as hell. I dated one when I was a senior in high school and damn she was a real freak. She loved role playing, sex toys, and talking dirty.

Jason, how does this help me slay one? I already know they are freaks, sex toys etc. why do you think I want one so bad?

Please break down what you know to be proven to get results for you or your post is worthless.

Mixx

Post: #35

(08-23-2011 07:17 PM)FretDancer Wrote:  Something I forgot, which torontokid reminded me of: Long Hair. Not a must, but it probably reduce the effort you need for these chicks by half, if you get a good long hair style that doesn't look like a queer and fits your overall fisique.

The girl I slayed, (which was my girlfriend for a while) loved the long hair, even though my hair was never that long.

Mixx, have you ever rocked out long hair?

No way in hell I can sport the long hair, rocker look...not my style, and it would be obvious.

Mixx

Post: #36

(08-23-2011 07:50 PM)Gmac Wrote:  My advice: Pick the right low-key venue where these chicks frequent in your city, dress down, and just play it cool.

Ok, and how do I go about finding said low-key venue full of gothic chics? I'm guessing that it being low-key, google is useless.

Mixx

Post: #37

(08-23-2011 08:15 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(08-23-2011 07:50 PM)Gmac Wrote:  My advice: Pick the right low-key venue where these chicks frequent in your city, dress down, and just play it cool.

Ok, and how do I go about finding said low-key venue full of gothic chics? I'm guessing that it being low-key, google is useless.

Mixx

Ask around town during the day where those types of girls frequent. Probably won't find many in North Dakota. You're right though, you will probably have to gather old school intel. But, there are a lot of underground/fetish groups out there in every city too. Here is one from DC: http://themetrounderground.com/ (I have not tried this route yet)

...Or you can always try hanging outside the next twilight convention.

Post: #38

(08-23-2011 08:15 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(08-23-2011 07:50 PM)Gmac Wrote:  My advice: Pick the right low-key venue where these chicks frequent in your city, dress down, and just play it cool.

Ok, and how do I go about finding said low-key venue full of gothic chics? I'm guessing that it being low-key, google is useless.

Mixx

Venues that offer alot of live rock music/concerts and have new noobie bands playing. If you can reach the band members in some way it'll be easier because you will have social proof established for future gigs.

Also alot of these kind of events don't take place in actual venues, but in places like open parking lots and stuff like that. Find these, they get posted on facebook alot too.

Post: #39

Mixx - look up "gothic" on yelp. Use that website I posted earlier! It has some of those freaks you're interested in.

Post: #40

(08-23-2011 08:33 PM)FretDancer Wrote:  

(08-23-2011 08:15 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(08-23-2011 07:50 PM)Gmac Wrote:  My advice: Pick the right low-key venue where these chicks frequent in your city, dress down, and just play it cool.

Ok, and how do I go about finding said low-key venue full of gothic chics? I'm guessing that it being low-key, google is useless.

Mixx

Venues that offer alot of live rock music/concerts and have new noobie bands playing. If you can reach the band members in some way it'll be easier because you will have social proof established for future gigs.

Also alot of these kind of events don't take place in actual venues, but in places like open parking lots and stuff like that. Find these, they get posted on facebook alot too.

Yep, what he said.
If you can get into one of these events and hit backstage you'll clean up.
Its automatic social value if girls see you chilling with a band.

Post: #41

Try cruising tattoo shops and bong stores.

If that doesn't work try some Wicca related bookstores. I went ahead and googled for them in the Miami area. Here you go: http://www.thewitchsgarden.com/. Don't come crying to me if they curse you.

You could go to an Insane Clown Posse concert if they're still around. The first goth I ever banged was from one of those.

There's that store in malls that sells black clothes and studded bracelets. They always have goth-type girls working there. There it is: http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/Homepage.jsp. It says there was one in the Dadeland Mall which was in Cocaine Cowboys.

I got a blowjob from a Pagan in Vegas strip joint bathroom once. She started looking at my tattoos. She was really interested in them. She asked if they were some type of authentic ancient style, and of course I said yes even though they aren't. I told her I had my dick done too, which I don't. She really wanted to see it. We went in the bathroom, and she kneels down, and we had a little laugh. "Yeah I lied, but you can suck it anyway" or something like that was my line. She did. She met me at a bar later, wearing Brazilian-type bikini bottoms, shiny black boots and a black leather jacket. She was the real thing, and had all kinds of Pagan jewelery. I acted like I was as interested in her thing as I could fake being. I fucked the tar out of her at the hotel. She tried to be dominating, and I remember grabbing her by the throat and pushing her down on the bed when she tried to bite me. I pulled her right out of that.

There was another time I banged a goth here on Oahu. I did this like banging a lawyer. You either act like you are really interested in the stereotype they have gone way out of their way to fill, OR you just flat out ignore it. I ignored it with this one, and she was out there. She actually belonged to some type of Satanist organization. She had black fingernails. I never acknowledged her gimmick whatsoever. That had to drive her crazy... Maybe you should try that style.

One more thing, the people I've met that are into that stuff get offended when you call them "Devil Worshippers" for some reason. That could kill it for you, so keep that in mind.

Aloha!

Post: #42

I banged a girl like that once. Not a really hardcore goth, but her skype name was vampire_nell or some shit like that, and her cat was named Asmodee, which she told me was the name of some demon. Had some tats and heavy make-up, too. Screwed up family, mom was schizo or something (her friend told me) and it may have started to show in her, too.
That one I met at a club called Angel Heart in Sofia, Bulgaria, though I have to admit I was introduced to her by someone I knew. We went to a friend's place later to have another drink (2 guys, 2 girls) and things just happened. Bang was OK, not too freaky but definitely not a dead body in bed.

Post: #43

unfortunately, I think the Gothic/suicide girls look is going to be hard to find now days. I remember when I was younger and bands like marilyn manson, icp, korn, limp bizkit were popular. You saw those girls EVERYWHERE. You might try a hipster/alternative bar. Hell, now you got me interested mixx. I wouldn't mind fucking one of those suicide girls.

Post: #44

(08-23-2011 08:13 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(08-23-2011 07:17 PM)FretDancer Wrote:  Something I forgot, which torontokid reminded me of: Long Hair. Not a must, but it probably reduce the effort you need for these chicks by half, if you get a good long hair style that doesn't look like a queer and fits your overall fisique.

The girl I slayed, (which was my girlfriend for a while) loved the long hair, even though my hair was never that long.

Mixx, have you ever rocked out long hair?

No way in hell I can sport the long hair, rocker look...not my style, and it would be obvious.

Mixx

Mixx, I can give you one example of a latino guy that all those gothic chics want to fuck the shit out of: Dave Navarro.

Model your look after him. I think you could easily rock a look like this without altering yourself with tats and piercings and shit.



Just wear all black. A black deep V shirt, fitted black jeans with boots and a leather coat. Sunglasses and some jewelry. If you want to get faggy, maybe a little eyeliner.

Dude, I've had a thing for gothic girls since I was a teen. Would never take one seriously or even want to be seen with one in public, but the sexy ones drive me fuckin nuts! I feel your pain, brother!

Post: #45

(08-23-2011 05:24 PM)MiXX Wrote:  C'mon man..details!!! This does not help me too much player!

Mixx

+1 what speakeasy said.

you don't need to dress like a faggy goth to get with these chicks. i never did.

you ARE going to have to alter your look if you are going to goth venues to fit in however. you could easily pull off the dave navarro look. that would fit. just wear a lot of black and look cool.

In terms of game, i did not really game any differently for the italian goth chicks I banged. For a lot of girls, the goth thing is just a phase anyway. You don't see too many MILF goth chicks do you?

Just read up about vamp shit, watch the first few episodes of true blood. The character Eric on that show is the kind of attitude you should be going for.

Go to http://suicidegirls.com/girls/ and find girls that look goth and click on their profiles to find out what they are into. Music, books, film etc.

Post: #46

I can definitely pull off the Dave Navarro look above! DEFINITELY!!

I'm gonna hit these clubs labor day weekend before I visit Colombia with the Dave Navarro look.

That goth chic Speakeasy posted above is EXACTLY what I have in mind to slay! SEXY AS HELL!!

If anyone here can help me find goth (not fetish) parties in Miami or Fort Lauderdale happening on Labor Day weekend, I'll deeply appreciate it!

Mixx

Post: #47

Mixx, have you ever spat your regular game at a gothic lizard and if so, what exactly happened?

The reason I am asking is I wonder if there is anything different to do when spitting at them than one would do with any other demographic.

Do you see much of them in Miami? I can't recall seeing much when I was there but then again, I don't really target them..

Post: #48

@moma

I have never gamed goth/vampire mamacitas before. Which is why I am calibrating every aspect of my game, wardrobe and vibe so that I can attack with exact precision and fatality!

Expect a LAY REPORT once I have broken down the shields and cracked the code on how to suck the blood out of these blood-sucking bitches!

I even got a copy of that Blade techno song, and did my workout this morning to it!! I so fucking psyched-up!!



I'm gonna be confident, and lethal just like Blade up in this bitch and slay me some vampire pussy!!

Mixx

Post: #49

'blood rave' is such an awesome track. good luck!

Post: #50

Mixx, I think a good move for pulling these girls back to your pad is to tell them you have some rare absinthe that you can't get easily find and invite her back to try it. These chics are intrigued with it. Even Marilyn Manson had his own brand.