Post: #26

(09-23-2011 09:57 AM)BoneDaddy Wrote:  

(08-22-2011 12:59 AM)Lothario Wrote:  I am a married guy who found game very late in Life

Hey Man,

I'm right there with you. I discovered game a few years ago as well. I'm married, quite happily, I might add, but still can't stay away from the strange.

I have a job that allows me to travel quite a bit. This results in pretty much an ideal (depending on your perspective) situation where I'm in my home city most of the time, but every four to six weeks, I spend a week in another city where my company has another facility.

This allows me to always keep a few in the pipeline in the other city, so I'm not hitting it cold every time I step off the plane.

There are going to be those who get all holier-than-thou on this, but in my situation, it works. "What if your wife did the same thing?" some will ask. It actually wouldn't bother me much. We're not 20 anymore. I'm late 40s, she's 39...we're both into fitness and are considered hot by the opposite sex. I'm having my fun, and I wouldn't deny her the same opportunity.

We're totally devoted to each other, fully in love, and act like newlyweds after 10 years of marriage. This might not work for everybody, but it is what it is.

Thanks for starting this thread, I'll look forward to exchanging ideas and hearing about your successes.

Bone

Do you tell your adventures to your wife? No? Then you're living a lie. How does it feel? Are you proud? Would you tell it to your kids without any kind of regret or guilt?

Post: #27

(09-23-2011 10:14 AM)mofo Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 09:57 AM)BoneDaddy Wrote:  

(08-22-2011 12:59 AM)Lothario Wrote:  I am a married guy who found game very late in Life

Do you tell your adventures to your wife? No? Then you're living a lie. How does it feel? Are you proud? Would you tell it to your kids without any kind of regret or guilt?

Look dude, take your pious bullshit somewhere else. I'm not here to debate morality.

Post: #28

Good thread Lothario. Some great answers here, too. I don't have much new to add - just some +1 stuff.

Get a prepaid cell - pay with cash. I get mine at a grocery store and there is no name whatsoever attached to it.

I leave mine at work almost always.

When out of town on biz its all about game - and closing the deal in my hotel room - with young pussy (when possible) I never got enough of.

At home, in town, I will flirt like mad, maybe get touchy feeley at a bar/club, but I'm VERY careful. I've met married women who are in the same boat as me and we've had some fun, I've messed around with young single chicks - but I don't ever let them know anything about the real me. Really - out of town is where its at. This gets away from "game" but there are websites for married people and other discreet options for when in town... While that can be effective - game is sooo much more fun and satisfying - the hunt and kill. Almost always day game - but if you ever have biz contacts visit from outof town those are good covers.

And tell as FEW people as possible - you probably know one or two friends who think the same way as you- and can be a partner in crime and zip their lips. No bragging.

Join the gym - multiple reasons.

Don't use your home computer to visit sites that could trip you up.

Post: #29

(09-23-2011 10:27 AM)BoneDaddy Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 10:14 AM)mofo Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 09:57 AM)BoneDaddy Wrote:  

(08-22-2011 12:59 AM)Lothario Wrote:  I am a married guy who found game very late in Life

Do you tell your adventures to your wife? No? Then you're living a lie. How does it feel? Are you proud? Would you tell it to your kids without any kind of regret or guilt?

Look dude, take your pious bullshit somewhere else. I'm not here to debate morality.

The truth hurts, I know. Good luck though!

Post: #30

(09-23-2011 10:27 AM)BoneDaddy Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 10:14 AM)mofo Wrote:  

(08-22-2011 12:59 AM)Lothario Wrote:  I am a married guy who found game very late in Life

Do you tell your adventures to your wife? No? Then you're living a lie. How does it feel? Are you proud? Would you tell it to your kids without any kind of regret or guilt?

Look dude, take your pious bullshit somewhere else. I'm not here to debate morality.

This so very much.

At the risk of feeding a thread troll...

I was conciliatory in my initial reply because I thought you (mofo) had something to add to this thread. You've made your point, and it looks like you're out of material.

Rather than crapping on a thread in which like-minded men are trying to help each other, could you please move on?

Post: #31

(09-23-2011 01:47 AM)Ami5 Wrote:  And similarly, what if your woman wants a new dick to fuck everyday?

So what?

(09-23-2011 07:47 AM)mofo Wrote:  If you can look in the mirror in the morning and be proud of yourself then go ahead.
...
Do you tell your adventures to your wife? No? Then you're living a lie. How does it feel? Are you proud? Would you tell it to your kids without any kind of regret or guilt?

I don't understand what is in there for you. The OP clearly stated he is not interested in right-wrong debate. Why do you feel the need to share your unwanted holier-than-thou opinion? Did you find Jesus recently, or what?

Post: #32

Some great information here fellows. I am going to add some thoughts on top of my earlier post.

1. Happy hour is your friend. If you live in the suburbs and work in town. Just go over few blocks to happy hour spots where coworkers dont hangout after work. This could be used for both dates and also gaming. Call it NETWORKING OPPORTUNITY.

2. Fall on sword friend. I have one friend who lives inside city who i use as excuse. I also keep wardrobe and toiletries at his place and if needed he will let me use his place to pose as if its my place.

3. Got google voice recently and its AWESOME. I check txt and voicemails from my regular phone's browser. No need to forward texts or calls to regular phone.

4. 1 date rule. I almost always used to go for SNL when i go out in town but that doesnt happen a lot. So now i have expanded to one date after i get number. That is happy hour after work where there is opportunity for venue change. I go all out for bang that day. If it doesnt happen or after that if I cant just go straight to her house straight to bang, I stop pursuing the opportunity.

5. No tracebility. Leave wallet in car if you go to chicks place. I have no facebook. Google the information you give to chicks regularly to see what shows up and if it can be related to the real you.

6. Be ready to walk away. Unless you are ready to get divorced give first preference to family always. No matter how good the lifestyle of a playboy is, be willing to give it all up in a second. And set it up that way from the start.

Everybody's situaton and reason for gaming on side is different. What I find interesting is all the judgemental fellas reading this post who are in their 20s and never been married, will probably be back searching this thread years later. It will make a whole lot more sense then.

Post: #33

(09-23-2011 11:57 AM)mofo Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 10:27 AM)BoneDaddy Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 10:14 AM)mofo Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 09:57 AM)BoneDaddy Wrote:  

(08-22-2011 12:59 AM)Lothario Wrote:  I am a married guy who found game very late in Life

Do you tell your adventures to your wife? No? Then you're living a lie. How does it feel? Are you proud? Would you tell it to your kids without any kind of regret or guilt?

Look dude, take your pious bullshit somewhere else. I'm not here to debate morality.

The truth hurts, I know. Good luck though!

Post: #34

Fellas I need some advice here....Me and a fellow married playboy have been bouncing around the idea to start a joint blog called "Married but Single"....which is truly our lifestyle...both of us live in different cities but get together often to game....both have acquired single pads within our own cities so logistics is easy as 1-2-3 now....truly we are living any guys dream...making big money...psuedo happy married life with kids at home....and banging hot lizards on the side in a tricked out bachelor pad...combine that with our work that involves travels....and you have every week full of stories that only a "Married but Single" guy can put out...

Now the dilemma is that if we do start a blog...it will have to be very discrete and untraceable otherwise if wives or someone they know finds it and traces back to us its written corroborated evidence which will hold up in divorce court...

The positive side is that we hope to develop a following of lizards who are intrigued bythe lifestyle and want in so we can bang even more hotter women....

I cant decide....whether to take this plunge or not...part of me wants really badly to tell my story before i start losing my memory of adventures due to high levels of alcohol and weed....

thoughts?

Post: #35

^^
This sounds like a terrible fucking idea broski.

You and your other married friend are going to start a blog about punching random kitten?

If you're really dead set on the blog, be sure you're both using TOR. How are you paying for the "pads" in an untraceable way? Just cash?

Just seems like it'd be asking for trouble.

Post: #36

Prowl I have the lease under another friends name and pay him for rent via my secret checking account where I will siphon money from my expense checks. I travel a lot for work so expense checks are substantial and frequent.

More I think about it. Seems like a bad idea.

Post: #37

(12-23-2011 11:53 AM)satanova77 Wrote:  Fellas I need some advice here....Me and a fellow married playboy have been bouncing around the idea to start a joint blog called "Married but Single"....which is truly our lifestyle...both of us live in different cities but get together often to game....both have acquired single pads within our own cities so logistics is easy as 1-2-3 now....truly we are living any guys dream...making big money...psuedo happy married life with kids at home....and banging hot lizards on the side in a tricked out bachelor pad...combine that with our work that involves travels....and you have every week full of stories that only a "Married but Single" guy can put out...

Now the dilemma is that if we do start a blog...it will have to be very discrete and untraceable otherwise if wives or someone they know finds it and traces back to us its written corroborated evidence which will hold up in divorce court...

The positive side is that we hope to develop a following of lizards who are intrigued bythe lifestyle and want in so we can bang even more hotter women....

I cant decide....whether to take this plunge or not...part of me wants really badly to tell my story before i start losing my memory of adventures due to high levels of alcohol and weed....

thoughts?

It's a tough call. I live a very similar life with some incredible exploits (althought I'm not married yet). I've been told to write a blog, a book, or do a documentary, but the risks are very real.

Having said that, don't be surprised to get a PM from me in the near future.

Post: #38

(12-23-2011 11:53 AM)satanova77 Wrote:  Fellas I need some advice here....Me and a fellow married playboy have been bouncing around the idea to start a joint blog called "Married but Single"....which is truly our lifestyle...both of us live in different cities but get together often to game....both have acquired single pads within our own cities so logistics is easy as 1-2-3 now....truly we are living any guys dream...making big money...psuedo happy married life with kids at home....and banging hot lizards on the side in a tricked out bachelor pad...combine that with our work that involves travels....and you have every week full of stories that only a "Married but Single" guy can put out...

Now the dilemma is that if we do start a blog...it will have to be very discrete and untraceable otherwise if wives or someone they know finds it and traces back to us its written corroborated evidence which will hold up in divorce court...

The positive side is that we hope to develop a following of lizards who are intrigued bythe lifestyle and want in so we can bang even more hotter women....

I cant decide....whether to take this plunge or not...part of me wants really badly to tell my story before i start losing my memory of adventures due to high levels of alcohol and weed....

thoughts?

This is a terrible idea. But then again figuring out better ways to embrace my inner psychopath, tame feelings of empathy, and lie to women non-stop may also be terrible ideas. So what? Good lord, if you did such a blog you and your friend would be folk heroes around the world spawning Tyler Durden-style imitators. EVERY married guy I know would subscribe, if only to live vicariously.

But you'd also be Public Enemy #1 not only attracting the Anti-PUA feminists, but also a much larger conservative backlash as you are undermining the sanctity of marriage, then flaunting it online. The idea is fantastic but I don't know how you could keep your identity unknown 100%.

Post: #39

Sorry- forgot to mention that, from a business model perspective, you could actually finance your lifestyle through the blog. What would happen is that many of your wannabe married readers would want to pull something similar, but have no idea no idea how to do it. The important part is the untraceable apartment; so a link from your blog to your trusted real estate guy who would set up other dudes in rental units would earn both you and your real estate guy a commission on sales. That could add up.

Post: #40

(12-23-2011 11:53 AM)satanova77 Wrote:  Fellas I need some advice here....Me and a fellow married playboy have been bouncing around the idea to start a joint blog called "Married but Single"....which is truly our lifestyle...both of us live in different cities but get together often to game....both have acquired single pads within our own cities so logistics is easy as 1-2-3 now....truly we are living any guys dream...making big money...psuedo happy married life with kids at home....and banging hot lizards on the side in a tricked out bachelor pad...combine that with our work that involves travels....and you have every week full of stories that only a "Married but Single" guy can put out...

Now the dilemma is that if we do start a blog...it will have to be very discrete and untraceable otherwise if wives or someone they know finds it and traces back to us its written corroborated evidence which will hold up in divorce court...

The positive side is that we hope to develop a following of lizards who are intrigued bythe lifestyle and want in so we can bang even more hotter women....

I cant decide....whether to take this plunge or not...part of me wants really badly to tell my story before i start losing my memory of adventures due to high levels of alcohol and weed....

thoughts?

Sounds like a bad idea. The more you write, the harder it will be to maintain anonymity. If you care about keeping your marriage going what you're doing is risky enough.

As for using it to get groupies, that would be even riskier! Surely you can meet enough girls the old fashioned way?

Post: #41

Caligula and 46 thanks for the input...

I am giving up on the idea of the blog for now...risk is high for rewards...or possible improvement in my lifestyle..

I do want to tell my story and give insight on game from married guys perspective and will use the forum to do so....

Post: #42

(01-19-2012 09:39 PM)satanova77 Wrote:  Caligula and 46 thanks for the input...

I am giving up on the idea of the blog for now...risk is high for rewards...or possible improvement in my lifestyle..

I do want to tell my story and give insight on game from married guys perspective and will use the forum to do so....

Just out of curiosity, which city are you based in?

Post: #43

Houston TX....

I believe large size spreadout/sprawling cities like LA Dallas Houston Chicago DC metro are great for married guys game....as you can live in the suburbs and game 40 minutes away inside the city...and believe me people who live in suburbs hate the people living inside city and vice versa so discretion can be maintained....

Post: #44

This thread is great. I'm in a similar situation to OP and a bit all over the place gaming around my city and the tips here are helping to ground me.

Do you gents with a second cell phone have a "prepaid" cell phone? Are there any of these that you can take overseas to pop in a local sim?

Post: #45

Or you could do what I found works well for me. We hired a 21 year old nanny and I fuck her and have her suck my cock while my wife is shopping or running errands. I thought it was a fantasy but it's not rocket science. She is a hard 8 and 15 years younger than myself. She really gets off on fucking another woman's husband. Bragging? Well maybe a little.... Yes this is a potential mess but hopefully we have mutually assured destruction if she tries to get me divorced. She loves for me to photograph her sucking and fucking and I have a large album growing.

Anyone else here banging the help?

Post: #46

(05-06-2014 08:53 PM)Manipulator Wrote:  Or you could do what I found works well for me. We hired a 21 year old nanny and I fuck her and have her suck my cock while my wife is shopping or running errands. I thought it was a fantasy but it's not rocket science. She is a hard 8 and 15 years younger than myself. She really gets off on fucking another woman's husband. Bragging? Well maybe a little.... Yes this is a potential mess but hopefully we have mutually assured destruction if she tries to get me divorced. She loves for me to photograph her sucking and fucking and I have a large album growing.

Anyone else here banging the help?

This is a very dangerous situation to be in. Just like banging your secretary, another co-worker or anyone in your social circle.

This girl has you over a barrel now. Who has more to lose, you or her? Sure, you can put up some embarrassing pics of her on the net, but fucking dudes is what a girl who age is supposed to be doing. However, if she goes and blabs to your wife then you are potentially headed for an expensive divorce.

Great thread, BTW. I myself have a live in LTR and was looking for a thread like this. McQueen' recent ROK article about mistress game is also useful.

Post: #47

Just run the sugar daddy scam when you're traveling for business. Search "Seeking Arrangement" on this forum.

For a married guy it's probably the most efficient and least likely to blow up in your face method to fuck bitches on the side.

Post: #48

(01-18-2012 01:11 PM)Caligula Wrote:  

(12-23-2011 11:53 AM)satanova77 Wrote:  Fellas I need some advice here....Me and a fellow married playboy have been bouncing around the idea to start a joint blog called "Married but Single"....which is truly our lifestyle...both of us live in different cities but get together often to game....both have acquired single pads within our own cities so logistics is easy as 1-2-3 now....truly we are living any guys dream...making big money...psuedo happy married life with kids at home....and banging hot lizards on the side in a tricked out bachelor pad...combine that with our work that involves travels....and you have every week full of stories that only a "Married but Single" guy can put out...

Now the dilemma is that if we do start a blog...it will have to be very discrete and untraceable otherwise if wives or someone they know finds it and traces back to us its written corroborated evidence which will hold up in divorce court...

The positive side is that we hope to develop a following of lizards who are intrigued bythe lifestyle and want in so we can bang even more hotter women....

I cant decide....whether to take this plunge or not...part of me wants really badly to tell my story before i start losing my memory of adventures due to high levels of alcohol and weed....

thoughts?

Sounds like a bad idea. The more you write, the harder it will be to maintain anonymity. If you care about keeping your marriage going what you're doing is risky enough.

As for using it to get groupies, that would be even riskier! Surely you can meet enough girls the old fashioned way?

This is no joke. Putting out a blog on infidelity is like painting a huge target on your ass. There are plenty of people out there who'd make it their mission to fuck up your life.

Rule #1 of playing around is discretion. Making a blog, however anonymous you think you are, is not being discreet.

Post: #49

(08-23-2011 12:40 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  Thankfully, I've never been married, but I did run game during a period where I had a live-in girlfriend. It was semi-effective, but requires a lot of groundwork to setup. Frankly, in retrospect, I would have rathered go through the trouble of making myself single.

But here are a few things, off the top of my head, in no particular order that are essential:

1. Get a second, pre-paid cell phone.
This automatically removes the 80 percent of the problem of getting caught. Be good about shutting the ringer (or turning it off) when you're home. Better yet--if you're technically saavy--make the ringer on the second phone the same as your primary. Be ready to say you "found in the street and since it looked new you're thinking about seeing if you can have it cracked."

2. Pick up a "hobby" or join a "group" that requires weekly meetings.
This buys you at least one night a week where you can be out of the house to go work your angle.

3. Have a second go-to location.
This is hard and/or expensive. I've heard of guys renting rooms in a houses or furnished shit-holes toward this purpose. They buy a radio, a few basic appointments, and are good to go. The natural alternative is to always fuck your babes at their places, but the benefits of home-court advantage are hard to over-state.

4. Invent (or sacrifice) at least one friend and a "crisis" he's going through.
This will give you another night to go out on the regular. Depending on the nature of your relationship--and how much you've placed yourself on de facto lock-down over the years--you can "sleep over" at his place because you guys drank a little too much. When the "crisis" gets resolved, you can still hang with him because you "re-bonded" during your long chats. (Credit: Roosh)

5. If you drive, equip your car and find good, discreet parking locations.
I've fucked girls in my car and you can too. This requires having good music in there, a blanket, throw pillows, and knowing where to drive the girl. You should also use your car as your "safety island." Keep a stocked-up toiletry bag to clean yourself up before heading home, a water bottle for brushing your teeth, and a change of clothes to switch into for your "dates." Leave nothing to chance.

6. Have lock-and-loaded lines and excuses that you've rehearsed in the mirror.
I'm not kidding. If you get to this level, it's going to take a fucking PI to catch you. But, since you'll never make your wife suspicious, that won't happen.

7. Have different narratives for your prospects.
Sooner or later, questions are going to get asked of you. Be prepared to be: a guy going through a messy divorce, a recent bachelor, or a regular dude with a high-level job that gives you very little freedom. Pick your story according to your girl.

8. Minimize the number of people who know about your creeping.
You made need to confide in someone for some logistical reason along the way, but avoid this like the plague. The fewer people know about it, the smaller the chances that someone will open their big mouths: (1) in hopes of revenge-banging your wife; or (2) because they're a genuinely "nice" person who feels bad for your poor wife.

There's more, but that's my piece for now.

You can use Google Voice effectively in place of a burner phone, and even load it on your smartphone, but for fuck's sake, make sure you log out religiously. Don't save anything - never save texts for longer than you must, don't save any emails, don't take pictures. Never give out your real phone number. It's a good idea to have a fake name, even.

Minimize your online profile - no Facebook, none of that. Do not use online dating. Single chicks might be open to hooking up with a married guy on a whim, but even if she thinks you're single, she can easily do a bit of sleuthing and find out the truth, and depending on how nuts she is, this can end badly.

If your wife catches up to your side piece, she will not cover your ass and lie for you. Women will NEVER have your back if you get caught.

Remember that in this day & age, all someone needs to know is your license plate & $10 for one of those online public information databases and they can find out everything about you. If your side piece is also married or in a relationship and their guy is vindictive, this can bite your ass.

The best piece of advice I can give is that if you want to do this, you need to live a lifestyle that's conducive to this. It's best to be in situations where "it just happened", which means that if you're in a field where there are lots of social or networking events, that gives you a good place to run subtle game AND plausible deniability AND as a worst case scenario, "it just happened". A long running affair is much worse than a one night stand.

Post: #50

(05-06-2014 08:53 PM)Manipulator Wrote:  Or you could do what I found works well for me. We hired a 21 year old nanny and I fuck her and have her suck my cock while my wife is shopping or running errands. I thought it was a fantasy but it's not rocket science. She is a hard 8 and 15 years younger than myself. She really gets off on fucking another woman's husband. Bragging? Well maybe a little.... Yes this is a potential mess but hopefully we have mutually assured destruction if she tries to get me divorced. She loves for me to photograph her sucking and fucking and I have a large album growing.

Anyone else here banging the help?

Thinking about sticking it to my son's sitter, 21 and an easy 8.5 in my estimation.

Lost touch with her lately, due to her work/school imbalance

Funny, Sent her a text this morning about her summer plans

After reading your words, thinking about going full throttle