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Sexless in Silicon Valley: why nobody's getting laid in America's tech hub
It’s no secret that Silicon Valley opposed the election of Donald Trump. For many, the general distaste for the reality TV star could be chalked up to the candidate’s virulent xenophobia, Islamophobia and misogyny – all ideas that are at odds with the Bay Area’s prevailing social liberalism.

But for Trump’s most high-profile tech supporter, PayPal founder and Facebook investor Peter Thiel, Silicon Valley’s discomfort with Donald “grab-them-by-the-pussy” Trump stems from its denizens’ difficulty getting laid.

“On the one hand, the tape was clearly offensive and inappropriate. At the same time, I worry there’s a part of Silicon Valley that is hyper-politically correct about sex,” Thiel told the New York Times in an interview published last week, referencing the leaked Access Hollywood video of Trump boasting about sexual assault.

“One of my friends has a theory that the rest of the country tolerates Silicon Valley because people there just don’t have that much sex. They’re not having that much fun.”

Is Thiel right? Is Silicon Valley sexless? Has the city that hosted the summer of love entered a winter of celibacy?

The Bay Area certainly has a reputation as being a bad place to date. With more men than women, the odds would seem to be in a straight, single gal’s favor – but the goods, as they say, are odd.

“There are men everywhere, but they’re all awful,” said Amanda*, a twentysomething professional whose recent dates have included a web developer who didn’t know the alphabet and a software developer who starting talking about marriage on the second date.

The awkward, undateable tech guy was typified by a viral 2015 Medium post by a male startup worker who used an economic model to examine whether the city’s gender imbalance was producing “49ers – girls that are 4’s but think they’re 9’s in terms of attractiveness”. The author’s conclusion (that 49ers are more like “44.837ers at best”) was a prime example of the libido-killing tech mindset that is more interested in standard deviations than some good, fun sexual deviance.

Then there’s the housing crisis, which can make finding a place to do it even harder than finding someone to do it with.

Daniel*, a twentysomething who moved to San Francisco to attend a coding bootcamp, ended up living in a “hacker hostel” with 13 people: two bedrooms, six bunk beds, and one guy who slept in the closet.

“No one got laid there as far as I could tell,” he said.

Sasha*, a 26-year-old chef who moved to the Bay Area from New York, went on a blind date last year with a man who, it turned out, was planning to move into a wooden box in his friend’s living room to save money on rent.

Living in a box was “not a deal-breaker” to Sasha, but the man’s attitude toward his box was less appealing.

“What was pretty weird about his description of his box is that he wanted it to be a protoype for a startup,” she said. “He was pretty proud of it. I was like, ‘Oh, my old roommate was living in a similar situation,’ but he wasn’t very into getting advice.”

The pair did not go on a second date.

Elizabeth McGrath, a somatic sex therapist in San Francisco who says that the “vast majority” of her clients work in tech, told the Guardian that she generally agrees with Thiel that people in Silicon Valley are not having much sex.

“There is not a lot of sexuality in the tech industry, in terms of it being fun, free, open, sensual,” McGrath said. “It all feels very stilted and neutered.”

There is not a lot of sexuality in the tech industry, in terms of it being fun, free, open, sensual
Elizabeth McGrath, somatic sex therapist
Many of McGrath’s clients are men who “want to check the boxes of life” – which include romance and family – but are much more interested in their careers than exploring their sexuality. She described a common refrain from her clients as: “I’m in my late 20s, I feel like I should have a girlfriend, but I don’t necessarily know what’s in sex for me, what’s in relationships for me.”

The emphasis on work and career is also apparent to Amanda Bradford, the founder of The League, a members-only dating app that launched in San Francisco in 2014.

People in the Bay Area are definitely having sex, Bradford said, but probably less than their counterparts in New York or Los Angeles. According to the site’s data, League members in New York and LA are more likely to meet up with their matches in person.

“In San Francisco, it’s a much more intellectual city where people are focused on their career and what they’re aspiring for,” Bradford said.

But Siouxsie Q James, a sex worker and columnist for SF Weekly, argued that the home of the Folsom Street Fair and Good Vibrations is just as sexy as ever.

“San Francisco has been a gold rush town for a very long time. At one point, at the turn of the century, 90% of the women were sex workers … I think something not so different is happening today.”

“People are definitely having sex. I’m not sure why [Thiel] said that, but I’m not sure why he said women shouldn’t be allowed to vote,” she added, referencing a notorious 2009 essay by Thiel. “That’s a much more terrifying soundbite.”

Read the article here: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle...-francisco
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Let's preface this by saying: it's the Guardian, if you're reading it, the ad is for you, and given the MSM is just as likely to publish fanfiction as fact these days, the old saying that "You can't rely on anything in a paper except the date, and sometimes they even get that wrong" is getting more and more true--

The problem isn't a lack of sex, the problem is the lack of an identity, at least in the millennial code monkeys who (may have) said this:

Quote:She described a common refrain from her clients as: “I’m in my late 20s, I feel like I should have a girlfriend, but I don’t necessarily know what’s in sex for me, what’s in relationships for me.”

I feel like I should is code for "I was never taught to form my own identity, like literally the rest of America from the Baby Boomers onward, so I will continue the act of LARPing my life, defining myself by the things I have rather than the things I am."

You don't necessarily know what's in sex and relationships for yourself? Of course you don't. Narcissists think of themselves as the main characters in their own movie, and literally everyone else in the world is a supporting character, or an extra. Sex without realising there's another living human being with their own existence on the end of your dick is just masturbation, gonzo porn with your eyes as the camera. Relationships are no different. These guys will never have to worry about whether they're mistreating their partners in a relationship because to them their partners don't actually exist. Not as fully as they do.

The guy "feels like he should have a girlfriend." That's all he feels, and that's the problem. At the age of 29-31 these grown men are still doing the same thing your 6 or 7 year old kids do when they play dress-up: they are trying clothes on, attaching things to themselves to create an identity for themselves. This process will continue for the next 10 years or so: teenagers are the most narcissistic individuals in the world, making up and clinging to their identities, but that's a feature, not a bug. Graduation, famine, or a nice conventional war is supposed to stop all this shit cold. There's a reason these guys like The Matrix.

"What's in it for me with sex or relationships": sure, we can go cold player here and agree that women are mercenaries, but that's missing the crucial point: these guys are not players.

It is apparent they have roughly zero experience of getting fucked over in sex or relationships, because at least that pain, that rejection leaves some scars, forces you to confront the truth that the girl doesn't want to fuck you or only wanted to fuck you for ulterior motives. Bleak cynicism about women is justified if you've fucked a lot of them, in someone who's never fucked it's unsettling because it's not earned by pain or experience, which is why Rex Harrison's character in My Fair Lady comes across more like Hannibal Lecter than Pygmalion.

(An aside: Pygmalion and Galatea, like many of the Greek myths, is a teaching story. Do you know what prompted Pygmalion to begin his sculpture? The legend has it that he swore off women after he saw the Propoetides -- women cursed by Venus because they refused to admit Venus's divine nature, i.e. they refused to admit the divinity of love. For this, because of Venus's anger, they were said to have become the first prostitutes, losing all sense of shame, losing the power to blush. He might not have fucked them, but he was disgusted enough to earn that cynicism about women.

But let's remember the story does not end there. Pygmalion goes home and carefully carves a statue of his perfect woman. He falls in love with the statue, but it still isn't enough. He eventually goes and wishes for a woman just like his statue; that wish is granted. Pygmalion was supposedly in love with a statue, but he does not receive true happiness until he asks the gods, opens his heart, allows love, to bring him a woman just like that. That is, not until he stops focusing on what he has as a measure of his identity, until he stops literally putting the pussy on a pedestal and carving it into his ideal shape.

It's Pygmalion's recognition that brings Galatea to life, that turns her into a real human being and not just an extension of his will and creativity.)

These guys cannot afford that narcissistic injury to themselves: get rejected by a girl and it BSODs your identity as the nice, equal-rights guy who a woman will love for his mind, because such a guy shouldn't be getting rejected. Everyone suffers narcissistic injuries sometimes -- prior to grade inflation that was a big bonus of the existence of the F grade -- but someone who's been raised never to healthily build their own identity is going to be hit a shitload harder.

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This is an interesting theory, but I'm inclined to be more sympathetic to these guys.

I have to go to a Trump inaguration party (And there's a phrase you can never say enough...) but when I get back I'll type up some thoughts on this.

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One of the things I always wondered regarding the work performed in silicon valley - is it ABSOLUTELY necessary to live there? Can't they simply live in another state and tele-commute? And just fly to San Fran once in awhile to meet with the venture capitalists?

Given the nature of the industry, I would have thought most tech pioneers could work remotely.
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(01-20-2017 10:33 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  This is an interesting theory, but I'm inclined to be more sympathetic to these guys.

I have to go to a Trump inaguration party (And there's a phrase you can never say enough...) but when I get back I'll type up some thoughts on this.

I should again make clear the difference between sociopathy and narcissism: I am saying these men fall into the latter category, not the former, and they are certainly not alone in that. I'd also emphasise that part of their issue is that they were never taught how to put their own identities together; they were taught to put off constructing an identity until they'd finished the college degree or were wearing shitty shoes at a tech startup or Google.

This is just one manifestation of a problem that the entire West is going to have to confront sooner or later, and it won't be pretty when it does finally resolve.

Of course, the Guardian article wants this to be a story that appeals to middle class liberal women. That's why, so far as the article is concerned, every man in California is a code monkey and "awful" and every woman in California is in one of three categories: helpless twentysomething Rapunzel (the reader), enlightened goddess sex counsellor (the appeal to authority), or whore (the figure to hate). The woman are just as bereft of an identity as the men are, it just manifests somewhat differently.

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(01-20-2017 10:37 AM)markygras Wrote:  One of the things I always wondered regarding the work performed in silicon valley - is it ABSOLUTELY necessary to live there? Can't they simply live in another state and tele-commute? And just fly to San Fran once in awhile to meet with the venture capitalists?

Given the nature of the industry, I would have thought most tech pioneers could work remotely.

It depends on the nature of what you're trying to accomplish. If you're a talented programmer who's happy cranking out code you'll get a lot more leeway to work from wherever. But if you have business interests, it definitely is to your benefit to be in that area.

A good and extremely talented friend moved to San Francisco to get his startup going and it was huge for his business. Ended up meeting a lot of people, networking events all over, being local made recruiting/hiring a lot easier, he merged his company with another, they got acquired, and he is doing very well now.

If you're a programmer it isn't as location dependent. And there are exceptions to the rule and up-and-coming competitors trying to build their own incubation infrastructure. But in my opinion if you want to be the next startup millionaire, your best bet is to be in the Bay.
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(01-20-2017 10:37 AM)markygras Wrote:  One of the things I always wondered regarding the work performed in silicon valley - is it ABSOLUTELY necessary to live there? Can't they simply live in another state and tele-commute? And just fly to San Fran once in awhile to meet with the venture capitalists?

Given the nature of the industry, I would have thought most tech pioneers could work remotely.
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One of my fav bloggers, WSP, did an article on this.

http://wallstreetplayboys.com/new-york-v...york-city/

Quote:New York vs. San Francisco. Landslide for New York City.

For fun we had a twitter back and forth with our friend Sam who claims that San Francisco is far and away better than New York City. Needless to say, we disagree 1,000 fold. Comparing Man Francisco to the greatest city in the entire United States, is like comparing a European Model to an Overweight Vegan…. Wait… That is the exact same comparison.

The Only Positives About San Francisco

The following people will enjoy Man Francisco: 1) Married couples, 2) homosexuals, 3) people who dislike hygiene, 4) vegans, 5) tattoo artists, 6) those who suffer from low testosterone, 7) people with an asian fetish and 8) unattractive individuals with low self esteem.

The following benefits of Man Francisco: 1) the weather and 2) produce/farmers market.

If you do not like any of the items above, you’re not going to enjoy Man Francisco relative to NYC. Lets go ahead and kill this topic as the only benefits have been outlined above. This will be long as there are practically no benefits at all. Lets start with the people.

The People In NYC Are Much Better

1) Cheap People: The vast majority of people living in San Francisco are cheap. Sharing apps came about not because of the value it gives to society but because the society believes in making items as free as possible. Ignore the fact that this has the adverse consequence of filling your entire city with people who will prefer “Pabst” beer and a $9 twenty pound burritos. No surprise… this does not bring in attractive clientele and leads to the next problem…

In NYC: The people are not cheap and they will spend at will for a good time. You do not have to worry about calculating checks to the exact dollar and cents on a group dinner. When you leave healthy tips, the bartenders and bouncers will remember you forever and will show appreciation for it.

2) Fat People: Make no mistake, anyone who says Man Francisco is full of in shape people relative to NYC is a liar. They are either married or have low standards which makes them turn a blind eye to the extreme obesity and disgusting bodies of people in the city. You are more likely to find an overweight gluten free vegan than an attractive female. Honestly. If someone eats gluten free, sugar free, vegan poptarts for breakfast how did they get fat? Add it to the list of unexplained world mysteries. On that note, you are also more likely to find overweight homeless people than an attractive female above the 6 range.

In NYC: There are general door policies. While there are fat people all over the place, there are ground rules for being in shape and attending nicer venues. If you look terrible and don’t have a large amount of money the venue knows you’re not going to add any value to the event. Bring something to the table. Don’t show up in terrible clothing, overweight and unsuccessful expecting access to the Victoria Secret Fashion Show. You will be laughed at… Politely… As they won’t let you in. This is called having standards

3) Homeless People: On the topic of homeless people, they run the city. Back in 1968 there was a single homeless person who used to sell pencils nearby union square who suffered a horrific accident due to a war and didn’t have legs. Today? You can’t walk around union square without jumping over homeless people like a game of Mario. Oh and don’t worry. They are also fat.

The problem is so large we would like our readers to read this quote: “We encourage people and dogs alike to do their business in other places, like a proper restroom or one of our fire hydrants, which are stronger and made out of cast iron.”

Pause for a second. A lamp post was literally taken down by public urination and San Francisco has resorted to comparing humans to dogs with the statement “people and dogs alike” not… “dogs and people alike”. We are not trolling, here is the article.

Since we are comparing people and dogs like its no big deal it is fair to say the people also look like dogs as well.

In NYC: There are homeless people and it is extremely unfortunate. The climate in NYC is not good for homeless men and women, however, they are not *entitled* homeless people. A trip to downtown San Francisco compared to NYC will set the record straight. The number of homeless people in SF is ridiculously higher and they are entitled/aggressive as well.

4) The People are Unattractive: Before people jump all over the sentence above and say “omg that was so mean!” we are going to go ahead and allow you to decide for yourself. Type in the phrase “san francisco women” and then type in the phrase “New York City women” into google images. Here’s a rough idea of the difference.

Now there is nothing wrong if you believe that it’s about “who you are is on the inside” (we know you’re lying) but lets accept this as a fact. The problem? The women is Man Francisco have the worst attitudes you will ever see relative to their looks. The standard joke is that the city is full of 49ers (fours who believe they are nines). The joke is true.

In general, you can tell if a city is good based on the delta between the girl and the guy. Typically a girl will be at least a point more attractive than her man because this is how the world generally works. In Man Francisco, it will be reversed. In the rare situation where a guy is roughly equal in physical attractiveness to the girl… Make no mistake, she is the exact same age as him or within a couple of meaningless years.

In short, your dating options are exactly the same as Stephen Curry. You’re gonna be hitting a lot of threes.


In NYC: There are too many industries not to find a group of attractive people you enjoy hanging out with. You have many popular industries including Media and Fashion causing the average person to remain roughly above average if you stay in the nice neighborhoods.

5) Diversity: This is a joke of a topic since NYC is actually more diverse in terms of cultures, however, if you want to date a female who is not overweight your only choice will be Asian women. There is nothing wrong with this, but, you better have that yellow fever otherwise you’re going to be in pain for a long time. Therefore you can see that the only type of person who would be okay from a personal life standpoint would have to be either 1) married or 2) interested in Asia or both. If you’re not in one of these buckets you’ll be puking into one shortly.

In NYC: The city has 9+ million people. Re-read that again. There are so many people in the city that you will inevitably find a group or section of town that is enjoyable. Not everyone can live in SoHo in a decked out apartment. But. There are just too many options every single day of the week. You’ll find a great spot in no time regardless of your nationality. In SF, you’re Asian or White.

6) Extreme Liberalism Gone Wrong: San Francisco is feminism ground zero. Ground zero. In addition, if you are not a Bernie Sanders/Hillary Clinton supporter you’re instantly labeled a monster. More importantly, outside of your political affiliation, the city looks a bit like a circus. It is halloween 24/7/365 and not the good kind with attractive women running around in sexy outfits.

We did a quick google search and even this month there was an outrageously disgusting event called “Brides of March”. In this event “men” dress up in wedding gowns along with women and parade the city. Please see for yourself (we apologize for the eye damage).

Yes…. That is chest hair…. and we tried to clean up the comparison with a NYC fashion show.

In NYC: The city is generally more left leaning, however it is within reason. If you lean more right-winged… people will not throw a fit and call you a racist “xenophobe” monster. You can even have debates on the topic and still get along just fine. Try telling the group of guys above that you’re not a Bernie Sanders supporter.

7) Passive Aggressive Losers: In New York City a girl will tell you straight if she is not interested. In San Francisco, a girl will talk to you and then bad mouth you to the only 7/10 in the group while you leave to the restroom (no worries she won’t be a San Francisco native). Everyone is afraid to offend everyone else so they end up getting on their iPhones and sending cryptic passive aggressive nonsense behind your back. Everyone walks on egg shells to avoid offending any specific group which then makes it impossible to have standards. And… When you don’t have standards you get the aforementioned event above.

In NYC: People are extremely to the point and blunt. There is no point in wasting time there because everyone is trying to hustle on to the next level in life. This is actually a great feeling. No one wakes up in the morning and says “I want to have the same life forever and just be a free spirit”. If you have thick skin you will love NYC as people will tell you up front if they are interested or not. No time is wasted here.

8) A Technology County: Sure… Technology is a great way to make money. The problem? The vast majority of engineers are Aspies with no social skills and are terribly boring. Say what you will but the stereotype is generally true, most math related/tech related individuals are dorks. You’re probably better off taking acid and talking to yourself than hitting the local bar filled with unicorn employees. Sadly, even the word unicorn doesn’t have the greatest connotation to it.

In NYC: There is no Technology culture in NYC. Well.. There is a bit, however it is contained. Unlike San Francisco where you cannot go five feet without hearing about the the “cool unicorn” you can avoid the entire industry as a whole which is full of aforementioned Aspies and passive aggressive boring people.

9) Lack of Style: We have mentioned this in the above but it deserves a full paragraph. The people who live in San Francisco dress like absolute garbage. They will commonly wear hoodies, flip flops and do disgusting things to their bodies such as neck tattoos, chest tattoos, septum piercings and create large holes in their ears. Not only do they wear terrible products… they don’t even fit. It costs $20 to get clothing fitted and it would take 1 hour of effort to find a brand that fits “close enough” if someone cared about their image at all. They don’t.

In NYC: There is a large fashion community and girls know how to dress. This also pertains to getting into bars and clubs. If you’re a male wearing an ill fitted outfit, everyone in the venue is going to know and you’re going to be ostracized pretty quickly. It takes less than 10-15 minutes to make sure you look nice and that is a quality that goes a long way in the city that never sleeps. The jokester above would never be allowed into any venue worth entering. In SF… He’s embraced with open arms as being “different”.

10) Homosexuality: There is a large community of homosexuals in the city. If that is your thing you will enjoy Man Francisco. We are heterosexual.

In NYC: Similar answer there are 9M+ people so there is likely a homosexual community as well. It is unlikely as large as San Francisco.

In Summary: The people in San Francisco are just terrible compared to New York. If you are offended by everything and are a weak human being then you may prefer the people in SF. In addition, assuming you meet some of the stranger metrics (vegan, yellow fever, boring personality who has never done drugs or drank in his life) then you just might find a niche with all the autistic people in the Tech Capital of the country.

Comment on SF girls:

Quote:Any good looking man with options is going to have a “cross country” girlfriend because the girls are either old or ugly as shit. Anyone forced to live there can attest to it (unless they are okay with ugly women)

If you are forced to visit San Francisco your best option is to do a bunch of work. If forced to live there go to Miami, NYC, or Texas and get a long-distance girlfriend unless you want to date disgusting women.
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Interesting read. As a Bay Area native for many years, I can say that the problem with the SJW's that run tech companies is that feminism works great on paper, but turns women off in person. There's no masculinity in most male tech workers, or very little of it. That raw, manly energy is missing. Even though there are very few women, most of the women aren't attracted to most of the men in tech because they are socially awkward or male feminists.

As the ladies say.....ew....no.

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(01-20-2017 09:49 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  Bleak cynicism about women is justified if you've fucked a lot of them, in someone who's never fucked it's unsettling because it's not earned by pain or experience

Every day I try to hold my Jaded self back only because I gamed so many women and began to see the pattern. How my nice natural self was unacceptable, but putting on the "Bad Boy" mask got them so turned on. Girls with lame-o boyfriends could not get enough of it, but I realized one day I could be that boyfriend or husband getting chumped no matter how A+ my game is. Fucking sad when I realized "being myself" was never enough. But now I spot phonies and leftists just by their body language or subtle beta traits. Thanks Paracelsus, your whole explanation was spot on.

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Think it's funny the cycles the manosphere has gone through. First was the NAWALT cycle, in which not all women are loose, there *must* still be women around who don't have that kind of notch count.

Then was the poosy paradise, in which (those local chaste girls don't exist so) travel to foreign, non-feminist-tainted locales guaranteed a chaste wholesome girl...or did it?

Then ultimately was the revelation that every city is filled with practically the same people, the same kind of bland vaguely-but not-irish pubs patronized by the same meatish oafs with receding hairlines, a beer belly, a and perpetual sweaty upper lip.

Then was the realization that it's settle down age and time to do so, yet there exists some strange chasm between men and women by that age; men are at work, women are "at work" and full of ideas of what advice men need, yet still out at those bland bars (fucking)

And so we are in the current iteration, what I like to call 'arbeit macht frei' or 'work will set you free' iteration (the slogan the nazis used at labor camps). We are approaching a threshold of the male population, like the guy in this article, who can make a fairly no-brain assessment that there is no longer any point to marriage. He even goes on to relationships in general, which I would agree to an extent, the point of being in a relationship is diminishing. So ultimately a large chunk of these guys are figuring, "well, i'll just work harder now, and i guess it will pay off sometime..."

They are "set free" from worrying about their social status by focusing on work, which let's agree is simply another form of MGTOW.

Throughout all this, the same freaking trend: don't stop abortion, don't stop birth control, don't criticize women trying to act professional (really just don't criticize women, or expect any results from them, and gee you should be denied a vote on women issues anyway, weirdo!), and heaven forbid, don't demand that your wife drop school, her job, and her ego to get in the kitchen and learn how to crank out delicious meals.

Maybe things have always been this way, and that women have always been reactive, i.e. "wow! I have two kids! maybe i need to learn a recipe to feed them!" But any lingering proactivity of women ("gee, maybe I should learn to cook.") has nosedived thanks to social media. It takes no effort to swipe or like compared to cooking.

The incoming cycle, I believe, will be characteristic of men from our side. Jobs suck, so women are literally proven brainless when they get excited about going to one. The logic of marriage is stupid, the aftereffect is akin to slavery. Work is increasingly undervalued thanks to offshoring. All the while women are still inherently social-status driven and looking for a guy just like you (give or take $750k). So be it, women will simply wait in perpetuity for someone recognizably high-status, while men pretty much have the raw material for nuclear family formation but none of society's respect to do so. Therefore no pussy pass. This is what I guess men will work on this cycle.

If you are a man highly socially placed because daddy is a lawyer, or family money, or daddy loaned you his beach house- and this is the common seed blossoming into modern relationships that women are eager for, well consider the numbers for everyone else. A house in a good area $400k + two nice cars $120k + enough to go on instagram vacations another $15k + a "nest budget" that convinces her you are daddy-batter worthy: another 150k liquidity. Sum total round up to 800k minimum. Alot more men have fists and a bruised ego than that kind of money.
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RE: Sexless in Silicon Valley: why nobody's getting laid in America's tech hub
(01-20-2017 10:37 AM)markygras Wrote:  One of the things I always wondered regarding the work performed in silicon valley - is it ABSOLUTELY necessary to live there? Can't they simply live in another state and tele-commute? And just fly to San Fran once in awhile to meet with the venture capitalists?

Given the nature of the industry, I would have thought most tech pioneers could work remotely.

I'm doing that and I'm not even living in the US. The culture (work-tech culture) there is toxic. I can never justify dumping $3,000/month on a dump.
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If anybody has leaked models of the sex robot its silicon valley people.

/thread-60646...ight=robot

Also, in my experience, computer people get the best and most porn. Most of these guys probably jerk off twice before they get out of bed.

If some socially awkward type has a job designing cutting edge computer shit he works twice as hard on the porn in his free time.

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Yawn. There's a reason why Silicon Valley has been known as "Man Jose", since 2005. That is all.

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Interesting comment below the article:

Quote:in this day and age of social media, sex is more a fantasy to most than a reality.

americans are very strange when it comes to sex; we treat it like some huge taboo that we talk about in convoluted ways. I have met europeans, asians, africans, caribbeans, latin americans and canadians.. and none of them are so uptight or have such major issues about sex as americans. We have taken our comparative world (i have a bigger car than you; i have a bigger house than you; my daughter is cuter than yours; i have an ivy league degree in basket weaving, etc, etc) and imposed it onto sexuality. sex is no longer about meeting ms.x (me being mr. z) we chat, i get her to laugh, we enjoy each other's company, and soon take it to the bedroom. Rather it is about bragging "I have taken more women to bed than you; I have had sex with better looking women than you have, etc, etc".

Sex is sex; and sex should not control our lives. I have had a lot of sex (with women and women only .. i am a man) in my life (not to brag.. but to make a point). I have had sex with beautiful women and average looking (to me.. beauty is in the eyes of the beholder) women. I have had sex with white, black, asian, latino women from over 50 countries. The reason I mention this is because that is how I view sex.. as something I do, like eating, or smoking a blunt, or playing an instrument or sport. I do not sit back and ponder "Am I having enough sex? Am I having sex with good looking women? Do I look like someone who has a lot of sex?"... Who cares. How does it impact your life whether I bed a different woman every night ( as I once did during a certain period of my life) or whether it's been 6 years since I've been with a woman?

The people, in my opinion, who become philosophical and caught up with sex, sex, sex... always talking about "she has a nice body; I'd like to f#ck her; etc, etc" are usually the ones getting it the least. Most people that I know, male and female (all heterosexual.. I can not speak for gay people)who get a lot of sex don't even make a big deal out of it.
That said. Women in tech are on the ugly side. Actually, most women in corporate america are ugly.. wierd, but it seems that the dumb women are the pretty ones (If I am wrong, then someone please tell me which department -- acctg, mktg, etc-- in corporate america has beautiful women). However, Silicon Valley (mostly San Jose, Palo Alto, Sunnyvale) does have some very pretty women. In San Jose, it is mostly pretty Asian women (who are also quite friendly); in SunnyVale it is mostly pretty Indian women (I once dated a very pretty Indian dentist from Sunnyvale); in Palo Alto.. well, you've got it all. San Francisco and Oakland, Hayward, Berkeley (the Bay Area) has some very pretty women .. black, white, asian, latino. All of these women are approachable (much more so than New York -- although I like the aggressiveness of New York women, they go for what they want; and definitely more so than L.A women .. where every woman is a 'movie star' or 'model').

It has nothing to do with being ambitious. I have been ambitious all my life and have never lacked for sex.

It is simply a matter of 2 things:

a. Culture (A lot of the people in tech .. esp sw development.. are foreign -- Asian, Indian for the most part. Most -- not all -- of the americans in the tech industry are nerds --socially inept). Most asians and indians view sex and relationships quite differently; hence they are not as eager to jump into bed with any stranger they meet. Most socially inept males are scared shitless to talk to women.. you aint going to get her in bed unless you can say "Hi" to her

b. Social Media -- the tech industry gave us facebook, twitter (where would our president be without it), etc. Social media divorces one from reality. Dependence on social media dulls ones social interaction abilities (once again.. All Hail the Chief)... is it then a wonder?

Anyway, in conclusion, boys and girls, sex is good. You don't have to date to have sex; you don't need a girlfriend to have sex; but too much porn, too much video games, too much facebooking and twittering dulls your sexual capabilities.
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These techies are lazy. Fly to Cabo and get laid. Problem solved. If Cabo is too expensive go to Acapulco or Puerta Vallarta.

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(01-21-2017 10:20 PM)rpg Wrote:  These techies are lazy. Fly to Cabo and get laid. Problem solved. If Cabo is too expensive go to Acapulco or Puerta Vallarta.

Western men have to fly hundreds of miles to foreign nations to get laid and deal with actual women? That's a huge problem man.

The fact a western man with a career and money should have to fly all the way to Mexico for women is pathetic. This country's women is really turning to total shit.
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(01-21-2017 10:20 PM)rpg Wrote:  These techies are lazy. Fly to Cabo and get laid. Problem solved. If Cabo is too expensive go to Acapulco or Puerta Vallarta.

With what free time? With what social skills? Where are they going to get the idea that this is even a thing they can do, and if they do, how are they going to keep it a secret from their peers, who would get them fired, or at an absolute minimum, knock them off the promotion track for good, if they were doing something like that?

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Techies have no free time, Roberts is right on. The hours demanded of salary men in the Bay Area are absolutely brutal. True slaves to their profession, the vast majority of which is put back into outrageously overpriced housing and taxes, which ultimately benefit female social program. Being a tech employee in the Bay Area is a great way to a mild form of self-cuckery.

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Well, then they should be putting those H1B visa applications to good use, import nice looking trim.

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(01-22-2017 12:55 AM)spokepoker Wrote:  Well, then they should be putting those H1B visa applications to good use, import nice looking trim.

You could legitimately make a better case for using H1Bs to import decent looking brides for high-IQ techies than you can for importing the cheap Indians who take those techies' jobs.
After all, the purpose of an H1B visa is to import people who can do jobs that Americans can't do...

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(01-21-2017 10:52 PM)Unchained Wrote:  
(01-21-2017 10:20 PM)rpg Wrote:  These techies are lazy. Fly to Cabo and get laid. Problem solved. If Cabo is too expensive go to Acapulco or Puerta Vallarta.

Western men have to fly hundreds of miles to foreign nations to get laid and deal with actual women? That's a huge problem man.

The fact a western man with a career and money should have to fly all the way to Mexico for women is pathetic. This country's women is really turning to total shit.

Ask Alaskan gold miners how much they got laid. Work where the gold is and fuck where the pussy is. Even SF homos fly to cabo and they have all the anus they could want in SF.

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RE: Sexless in Silicon Valley: why nobody's getting laid in America's tech hub
This is why I must approach, approach, approach and keep approaching!

The competition is fierce! (for THIN, CUTE, YOUNG girls)

The sexual climate is challenging for most men.

The culture is does not encourage femininity.

There is a shortage of attractive women.

THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT CREATED ME!

It's a battle for sexual survival!

Most guys get NOTHING -- The result is porn addiction, "men going their on way", prostitution, a sexless lifestyle, etc,
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(01-22-2017 11:44 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  This is why I must approach, approach, approach and keep approaching!

The competition is fierce! (for THIN, CUTE, YOUNG girls)

The sexual climate is challenging for most men.

The culture is does not encourage femininity.

There is a shortage of attractive women.

THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT CREATED ME!

It's a battle for sexual survival!

Most guys get NOTHING -- The result is porn addiction, "men going their on way", prostitution, a sexless lifestyle, etc,

Exactly.

The answer is to not overthink it, just trial and error.

Problem is these guys seek advice from people (feminists) who give the absolute worst advice and don't have their interests in mind.

That, and I honestly think they take a mathematical approach to these things. "Oh, she's a five/six, I can probably get her". Problem is, thanks to feminism, most of those women think they are the shit and ignore them.

Bottom line is the answer is to not overthink it, trial and error, and go for women with the qualities you are looking for, not women society has deemed are supposedly the cream of the crop (dumpy career women).

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I worked in the Silicon Valley sexless industry for over 25 years and it is way too PC to produce a healthy relationship between men and women that would readily lead to abundant sex and good relationships. San Francisco is even worse than SV. The sexless nature of high tech has been going on for quite a while. In 2000, I was on a business trip with a Frenchman who worked at the company I co-founded. A hottie walked by us and I commented to him about her. He was shocked. He said that I was the first American man he had ever heard comment about a woman's looks. He said the French men do it all the time and they are mystified as to why American men seem to have no interest in women.

Some of the problems are:

- The carrot is too large for playing the game. Since many people think they have a chance to make huge amounts of money, they don't want to do anything that will rock the boat. That makes men easy to control.

- Women who move to SF are doing so in spite of the rep for it having a shortage (false one) of hetero males. So, these are not women who prioritize having a man in their lives.

c. A poll on a dating site 10 years ago found that women in SF and San Jose placed the lowest priority on love of any metro in the nation and the highest on the man's income. This is great for the small number of wealthy men but not for the majority. When SV goes into a slump women get furious with their men if the man loses his job or his company goes under.

- As we know, SJW rule the companies and it can go bad easily for men if a woman complains.

- Since so many men there struggle to get laid, women feel little need to look good or please a man.

- very feminist culture and we know what that does.
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