Post: #576

Its one thing for the loons on social media to call out white privelege but an all together different thing when people in positions of power do it.

Post: #577

Khan's Rules for Living in a Major City

File down your kitchenware



Or just dispose of it altogether



Unfortunately even discussing that is a hate crime



Make phone calls using hands free facing a wall



Accept respobsibility and two days later blame the Torries





Accept terrorism



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Post: #578

(06-09-2018 06:45 PM)gework Wrote:  

We need a proper, violent, ugly world war to end this fucking stupidity. This is the result of kids having no real problems (well, apart from the young men completely disillusioned with our female-centric society, but those lads aren't behind nonsense like this).

Post: #579

I dunno Teedub. If we're speaking of social and economic upheavel the ones who benefit are the ones who form powerful gangs and I have no desire seeing Mexico on roids in my own country.

Post: #580

British Army's valiant Sikhs who sacrificed their lives for UK set for memorial monument at last



Subedar Assa Singh, second from left top row, with his regiment of the British Army in 1913

Quote:Pushing a badly-wounded captain in a wheelbarrow under heavy fire through no man’s land, the brave ­lieutenant risked his life to save his superior.

The British assault in the 1915 Battle of Neuve-Chapelle in France ended disastrously, like so many in the First World War, when the reinforced Germans counterattacked.

One soldier called it “a foretaste of hell” with allied casualties totalling 13,000 over three days of brutal combat.

Mercifully George Henderson, the injured captain, recovered and survived the war. His saviour did not.

Shot in the leg during the daring rescue, amputation couldn’t save a hero who died of blood poisoning and gangrene a few weeks later despite evacuation to a Brighton hospital.



Sikh soldiers marching in France at the start of the First World War

Subedar Manta Singh, of 2nd Sikh Royal Infantry, was a turbaned Sikh from the Punjab in India, one of 83,000 killed fighting in the service of Great Britain during two world wars.

More than 100,000 Sikhs were wounded.

Famed as fearsome warriors, some went into battle with chakram circular throwing weapons and talwar curved swords as well as rifles.

An incredible 10 Victoria Crosses have been won by soldiers serving in Sikh regiments.

During the First World War, 14 of the 22 ­Military Crosses awarded to Indian soldiers fighting with the British went to “the Lions” despite Sikhs being outnumbered by Hindu and Muslim troops in an expeditionary force sent from British-run India to Europe.

From Gallipoli to the Somme, where turbaned cavalrymen lifted despairing spirits, Sikhs were brothers-in-arms with young men from places such as Sunderland, Scunthorpe, Stoke and Swansea

That proud legacy continues today – most conspicuously on Saturday when Charanpreet Singh Lall, 22, a Sikh from Leicester, became the first ­Coldstream Guardsman to wear a turban in the Trooping the Colour .



Charanpreet Singh Lall became the first soldier to partake in Trooping the Colour while wearing a turban

Manta Singh’s proud grandson, Jaimal Johal, said ­conditions had been particularly harsh for soldiers used to much warmer weather in India.

“Winter was hard and Indian soldiers didn’t have proper clothing so they suffered. Some of them were just in shorts,” says Mr Johal, 79, a retired sub-postmaster in ­Maidenhead, Berks. He moved to Britain on Boxing Day 1961.

Henderson and Singh were not just comrades but friends whose bond forged in battle carried on in their families down the generations.

Singh’s son, Assa, who was Mr Johal’s father, served with the British Army alongside ­Henderson’s own son Robert. In turn Mr Johal remains in touch with Robert’s son, Ian.

Assa fought in North Africa during the Second World War and in Italy, including at the famous battle of Monte Cassino.

The largely overlooked sacrifice and heroism of Sikh servicemen has long rankled with the 450,000-strong community in Britain but official recognition is finally near to right this wrong.



Jaimal's father Assa Singh served in World War Two

Victory is in sight for Slough’s new Labour MP, Tan Dhesi, the first turbaned Sikh in the House of Commons.

He has amassed an impressive cross-party alliance demanding a national memorial in a prominent London ­location.

Elected only last year, Mr Dhesi gained Government backing after securing support from every party in Parliament.

Those behind the project include veteran Tory Ken Clarke, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, the Lib Dems’ Vince Cable, and John Bercow, Speaker of the House of Commons.

His Commons motion calling for a Sikh monument is the most popular this session, collecting 266 signatures.

He says: “Memorials exist in London for soldiers from the Commonwealth, British India, Poland, African-Caribbean nations and for the Gurkhas but none of a turbaned Sikh soldier.”

He went on: “They fought together, died together and must be memorialised together.

A statue of turbaned soldiers would be a huge statement, a historic and unique addition to the skyline of our capital – indeed the first-ever statue of turbaned Sikhs in any global capital outside of India.



King George V, right, meeting wounded Sikh soldiers on the Western Front in 1916

“I believe it would help to promote integration and community cohesion and would show us in a very good light to all, including those millions of tourists who visit London each year.”

Mr Dhesi raised £350,000 of the estimated £1 million cost and is pushing hard for the sculpture to be erected on a main ceremonial route – Whitehall, The Mall or Constitution Hill, between Buckingham Palace and Green Park.

Home Secretary Sajid Javid gave a green light when Communities Secretary by ­establishing a working group to explore ­potential sites. He said the Government is prepared to chip in towards the cost.

“We are indebted to all those servicemen who volunteered to serve and fought to defend the freedoms we enjoy today,” says Mr Javid in an ­official statement.

He adds: “That’s why a Sikh war memorial in our capital will honour their sacrifice.”

ITV news presenter and Good Morning Britain political editor Ranvir Singh says a ­monument is overdue.

“We were not taught in school how much other nations did for the British war effort,” she says. “But now the public are aware of how brave and warrior-like the Sikh soldiers were.

“I want my son to grow up seeing men with turbans remembered and respected for what they did to help him live in a free society.”

A hundred years on from the end of the First World War, it’s frequently overlooked how much of the British effort was multicultural.

There were more than three million soldiers and labourers from what then was the British Empire, including 1.27 million from a colonial India encompassing ­Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Sunder Katwala, director of the think-tank British Future, says: “Sikhs, Muslims, Hindus and white British officers fought together [in] the Indian Army in both world wars, the largest volunteer armies in history.

“Many people are quite surprised to hear the armies that fought a century ago look more like the Britain of 2018 than that of 1918.”

Manta Singh was among a number of Indian soldiers cremated on the South Downs at Patcham. A Chattri shrine commemorates them.

Yesterday Jaimal Johal and Ian Henderson, grandsons of rescuer and rescued at the Battle of Neuve-Chapelle, paid their joint respects at the sacred place.

Mr Henderson, a former Commonwealth war graves commissioner, says: “It wasn’t really the Sikhs’ war but they were loyal.”

Mr Johal added: “They deserve a good memorial.”

Post: #581

Here's a great one, one of the battles the Sikhs are most proud of, the Battle of Saragarhi. 21 Sikhs, of the 36th Sikhs, fought to the death against 10,000 Afghans, showing extraordinary grit and prowess in their heroic last stand. It's one of the important memorial days in the Sikh calendar, and many Sikhs know the story well.

There is an ex army Sikh guy who runs my local dry cleaner. He is an excellent dry cleaner, people come from miles around, and other towns, to use him for the good stuff. He just sorted out a beautiful suit of mine after I got caught in the rain in it.

We got talking, and he has a son, whom he is very proud of. It turn out is birthday is 12th September. He mentioned causually that this was an important day for Sikhs, and knowing why, I asked slightly tongue in cheek if his son's name was Ishar. It turns out that is his middle name. Sikhs are very good at adopting British names, one of those small but important nods to their adoptive country that I am personally always grateful for. Anyway, he was so shocked and impressed that I knew the details of the battle, and some of Sikh history and culture, that he refused to charge me the £20 I owed for pressing my suit. It was a sweet moment. This is not the first time that knowing about this particular battle, little-known but hugely important to Sikhs, has led to a nice moment for me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Saragarhi

Post: #582

You will find that most Brits are well aware of the fighting prowess of the Sikhs, the sacrifices they have made, and their awards for gallantry. Even in peacetime, you can guarantee that they will stand up and be counted - during the riots of 2011 in London, the lowlife that ventured into Sikh neighbourhoods were given short shrift.

Post: #583

Heh.

Post: #584

Hooray! Record breaking crowds at Europe's largest Eid celebration in Birmingham.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44496158

I went for lunch with my family to celebrate something on the same day. On the way to the idyllic restaurant, we stopped in a beautiful, quintessential English town in the part of the country my ancestors are from. My dad took us into a late-Norman Abbey, that his dad had taken him into 60 years before, stunning, there was the tomb of one of the last crusaders in a small side chapel, with his original battle standard, translucent, still hanging as it had done for hundreds and hundreds of years.

We live in such a beautiful, special country. One goes to these places, and can almost breathe in England. I get very fed up of seeing articles like the one linked, and hearing people tell me that this is part of what it means to be English, as though the two cultures are equal, and that one is not really distinct from the other.

Post: #585

Sargon, PJW, Count Dankula and Milo have all joined UKIP!

Post: #586

^ That's actually fantastic news. Whatever one thinks of them, they'll dominate the party. Just need Tommy next.

Post: #587

(06-16-2018 07:25 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  Hooray! Record breaking crowds at Europe's largest Eid celebration in Birmingham.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44496158

I went for lunch with my family to celebrate something on the same day. On the way to the idyllic restaurant, we stopped in a beautiful, quintessential English town in the part of the country my ancestors are from. My dad took us into a late-Norman Abbey, that his dad had taken him into 60 years before, stunning, there was the tomb of one of the last crusaders in a small side chapel, with his original battle standard, translucent, still hanging as it had done for hundreds and hundreds of years.

We live in such a beautiful, special country. One goes to these places, and can almost breathe in England. I get very fed up of seeing articles like the one linked, and hearing people tell me that this is part of what it means to be English, as though the two cultures are equal, and that one is not really distinct from the other.

Well...the Normas did invade us...

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Post: #590

Who's going to this welcome party for Trump in Hammersmith London?

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/p...79986.html



Tickets are available here:

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/president...7425754709

Post: #591

Brexit is being bent over and getting a right good fucking now with all the political back and forth and on top of major businesses saying they will reeee all the way to the bank if things aren't made kosher. WHich translates to no brexit except in name.

Normal people are getting sick of it and now jobs are threatened they're all showing up to be plastic Patriots we always knew they were. Those in the Tory cabinet and elsewhere have the power to dismantle May but aren't doing it because it means Labour has a chance at power.

This is what the cross-party EU MPs want.

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Post: #593

Terrorist apologist Khan approved the Trump baby balloon to fly over London however.

Dont ever feel sorry for London or its citizens. That shithole deserves the people in power and their every fuck up.

Post: #594

Over £10,000 has apparently been raised towards a corresponding Sadiq Khan balloon.

Post: #595

Looking at twitter (PJW, Farrage etc). The PM and cabinet have betrayed the Brexit vote predictably and as usualy nobody has resigned.

You knew it was coming but to see it actually take place is a hit to the gut and ego. Theresa May is going to be the last Tory PM or one of the last to grace office for some time.

Post: #596

(07-05-2018 09:06 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Brexit is being bent over and getting a right good fucking now with all the political back and forth and on top of major businesses saying they will reeee all the way to the bank if things aren't made kosher. WHich translates to no brexit except in name.

Normal people are getting sick of it and now jobs are threatened they're all showing up to be plastic Patriots we always knew they were. Those in the Tory cabinet and elsewhere have the power to dismantle May but aren't doing it because it means Labour has a chance at power.

This is what the cross-party EU MPs want.

(07-06-2018 06:14 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Looking at twitter (PJW, Farrage etc). The PM and cabinet have betrayed the Brexit vote predictably and as usualy nobody has resigned.

You knew it was coming but to see it actually take place is a hit to the gut and ego. Theresa May is going to be the last Tory PM or one of the last to grace office for some time.

I wouldn't be so sure. Barnier won't agree to this proposal so "hard brexit/no deal" is very much still on the table.

Post: #597

Which means May has to anchor her ship to the hard Brexit or no brexit at all. Both will have a chance at undermining her position and government.

Post: #598

What's going on in the UK? It's like they've lost any common sense.

Post: #599

Far Right propaganda is a catch-all term.

Post: #600

Exactly, leave it so open-ended that anything that questions the government is "far right propaganda" - And so we sleepwalk into our police and surveillance state.