Post: #201

(05-25-2017 12:37 PM)Prince Charming Wrote:  I would really appreciate if newgame or some one with equal experience here actually gave some examples on what to do differently so I can improve when I return. Or link me a thread if it has been discussed before. Just pointing out my mistakes without any constructive feedback on how I would be better off doing things does not really help me or the other readers.

I don't consider myself a pro or anything so probably can't help much with what you're doing wrong. I have done very well with Colombian women, but I think it's mostly due to being an above-average guy where the competition isn't very high. My "game" is being myself, reading the girl and environment, and showing her the part of myself that I think she's looking for (normally humor/fun since I go for younger girls); in sum, I don't think I'm doing anything special.

I think everyone has been providing feedback, but you aren't paying attention or you're in denial.

With that said, I have met you PC, although you probably didn't know who I was. I don't know how to put this gently, but you give off a weird vibe and the girls I was with thought the same. I know of other people who have met you and they say the same thing. I think you don't know how to relate to people normally; you seem to have an attitude that you're better than everyone or smarter than everyone, which is visible in the fact that you haven't taken advice many have offered.

I think you definitely need to learn how to screen girls better; 300-400 flakes is due to poor screening or inviting them out before you've established any type of connection or interest. Going out with gold-diggers is also due to poor screening. If she mentions anything about debts, not being able to pay her rent/utilities, asking if you want "company", suggesting or demanding specific bars/restaurants, then she's a gold-digger and the conversation is over for me.

When I invite a girl out I tell her where we're going and what we're doing; it's common knowledge in Medellin that if you're inviting her out you are paying. Sometimes she'll say she doesn't have money in which case I make it clear that I'm paying "te invito". Some girls continue to protest that they feel bad for not paying and you have to make it appear like it's not a big deal and then change the subject to avoid focusing on money.

I'd say 80% of girls show up without expecting any taxi/transportation money, but if they have said before that they don't have money or I happen to be standing there when they pull up, I will pay their taxi. I always pay their dinner and or drinks even though a few girls will protest. However, none of this is negotiated beforehand, I simply make it clear that if she goes out with me she doesn't have to worry. If she complains that she doesn't like the plans the conversation is over.

If she asks too many questions about location or the plans it could be a sign that she has another offer (potentially better) and she's possibly going to flake; in this case you need to make a stronger connection. A girl should be at least a little excited to see you, otherwise she's a potential flake.

Post: #202

Constructive feedback......I am from Toronto and lived in Medellin for 2 years.

Toronto is a relative safe city and you can travel to any area without having to worry about being robbed. Women usually have their own cars and make way more money than a typical Colombian. The min salary per month in COL is what 600k cop? Comes to $250-300 CDN or $200USD. Do the math.....

The culture is totally different. When in Rome comes to mind. Toronto girls at certain spots can be bottle service whores or whatever you call it. They have their own money to buy drinks. Along with stupid dress codes in certain bars, Bad attitudes of doormen, you get bitchiness from the start. Guys are so wound up with the typical sausage fests in some bars that frustration comes out in violence after last call. In Medellin, they don't have strict dress codes or attitude at entrances. It's a totally different culture. People act different when it's a more pleasant environment as we all know. You've seen it I imagine.

i hope you didn't tell any of your dates that you are looking at penthouses to buy. They may be poor, but some have dignity. It's called Chicanero (one who likes to show off). You want the penthouse for certain reasons and one I would guess is to be a panty dropper????How do you get them up to the penthouse if they are flaking? I don't know you so you need to ask your friends ir relatives who know you what you are lacking in terms of vibe, looks and approach. My suggestion is to read read read. Study Spanish is for starters. Get girls wanting to hang out with you. If you fail in that, then stick to prepagos and gold diggers who don't care about you and just care about the dinero. You use them for sex and they use you for money. Win win for both parties.

As for girls with more money in Medellin. Go to rio sur on Saturday night. Try sinko bar for drinks them onto kukaramakara and the one next to it. Kuka has an older crowd. Here you will find girls that won't cost you a penny for transport. However, they will be used to going to fincas on puentes (long weekends) which are frequent in Colombia. Semana Santa, Christmas and other holidays/vacations get ready to pony up to go to Miami or other destinations. Trust me, you will be required to foot the bill more times than she will. Normal weekends (puebliar , dominguiar)....llanogrande and the like will be your Sunday's sitting in ave. las palmas traffic. If you decide to not go then they will find someone who will.

In Toronto, cottages may be popular with some but it isn't as important as it is to certain groups in Colombia. This I am sure you observed.

I don't know what else to tell you.

Post: #203

Thanks for the feedback guys. Even if it doesnt come come across in my posts because what I focus on to write and what others have focused on to pick out in my posts, I think we are all basically on the same page with what we do and have come to the same conclusions about Medellin. The main difference being the volume of leads we are persueing at any given time.

Post: #204

PC, I find your posts entertaining and some of these girls that you root are probably hot but like other posters have said they are probably low class or prepagos. Most of these jokes and fucking around would disqualify you from top drawer snatch, usually.

You're falling for some tinder sloot that is getting facialed regularly by other guys?

Post: #205

When I was in Colombia and the same for Chile I did not meet any gold diggers. I was always paying for food, taxi, etc but I had many girls refuse taxi money and generally even the girls that accepted I pay for everything would after a few dates pay for something small or give me a small gift. I honestly believe most of the girls would pay for more shit if they had the money. In Colombia and Chile I never felt used. In Peru however, strangely I met a lot of gold-diggers.

I would happily pay for all dating expenses for a sweet Colombiana than go halves on everything with a entitled bitchy Feminazi from Australia. Its a small price to pay. To the guys hat are tight asses, just stop being so tight. Did you forget what dating hell the west is? Do you want to go back to that?

I am sure they exist but in my 6 weeks in Colombia I did not meet any gold-diggers. A gold-digger would be a girl that demands you take her shopping and buy her shit, or take her on an expensive overseas holiday, give her expensive presents, pay her rent, etc. Her expecting you to pay for lunch, a museum entrance ticket, or the taxi is not golf-digging.

Post: #206

I don't know why this is even an issue. From those 15 bangs that I had here so far I probably paid 10k-20k for half of them, maybe more than half. 30k would be my expectation if I go on a date. There has been some rare cases when I paid 70k-100k for a date and just because I really wanted to fuck them and they were more "high maintenance".

You come from way more wealthier country than I do and still you whine here about couple of bucks. Home I would expect to pay 10-20 dollars just concerning my transport and drinks (plus her drinks). As well I am surprised that you encountered this a lot as I have been hanging out with more upper class girls as they were usually the only ones who did speak english and I came here same as you posted about yourself in the past, without any Spanish. They were actually insisting on buying some stuff for me after I paid for drinks etc. but I felt bad just about the fact that women should pay for my shit.

If you cannot provide for a women, you are not a man. You want sex from her, but what she gets? Jokes about your small dick and trannies?

Post: #207

(05-26-2017 03:38 AM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  they are probably low class or prepagos. Most of these jokes and fucking around would disqualify you from top drawer snatch, usually.

So you really think a girls class determines her sense of humor....?

The reason I say the shit I say is because it works and brings me closer to not only banging the girls but getting a deep lasting level of investment from them. Keep in mind the content (words) is tiny fraction of the communication that is happening. Yes sometimes my jokes bomb, and sometimes I tell the truth even if I know it will hurt me and I set myself back a bit but overall every thing is calibrated to the girl

I am going to take back my statement that 99% of girls in Medellin are gold diggers since clearly I have a different idea of what a gold digger is than most of you. Perhaps 10% of girls I interacted with are the kind of girl most of you would call a gold digger. I clearly talked about the two prepagos I went on dates with in my journal, besides those two I screened out 3 more prepagos from the numbers I got before we went on a date. If a girl ever showed any hints of being prepago I always asked directly if she was one. Including both of the two I went out with. One said straight up she wasnt one in whatsapp and then admitted it in person, the other said she was a pornstar.

Its clear some of this stuff is outside of the reality for some of you. You keep doin you. Im gonna do me. A lot of you complain about girls in North america but personally I have no complaints I have no problems getting and keeping quality girls that I like in canada. At the end of this trip I would say my results were comparable to what I get in Canada. For my next trip I am sure I will exceed it. Not only did I adjust to Medellin but I had some great insights in using my range of emotions to create stronger connects improving my game overall. I got a great offer on my condo in Toronto today. I will be back in Medellin. Possibly for good

PC out

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Post: #209

(05-26-2017 04:37 PM)Prince Charming Wrote:  I clearly talked about the two prepagos I went on dates with in my journal, besides those two I screened out 3 more prepagos from the numbers I got before we went on a date...

Its clear some of this stuff is outside of the reality for some of you. You keep doin you. Im gonna do me.

Don't know about you guys, but dating whores is definitely outside my reality.

PC let me speak in terms you might understand. Your social calibration is way off. That's clear enough online, and has been confirmed IRL. Lay off the self-amusement for a second, cool your ego, and listen to what people are saying to you. This runs way deeper than your game. This thread honestly reads like you have a mental health issue.

I'm not hating on you because of your success, and I don't think anyone else is either. You're just another gringo in Medellin. I only hope you're not burning out the field with your sloppy game.

Post: #210

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Post: #211

Good on cashing out in Toronto......although Medellin real estate also increased ridiculously. Is the market liquid enough to take out your money when you sell? I personally would rent for the next 2 years in Medellin until that long awaited correction happens. Then again who knows when????

"I got a great offer on my condo"........ Statements like these can make you a target in Colombia. I know people push the fear factor in Colombia and we all brush it off but it's still real.

Post: #212

I was looking around for info on Medellín as I'm moving there in approx 4 months, to open an online fulfillment center.

In doing so I stumbled on this thread and read it straight through; it was so entertaining.

The tidbits about where to buy, what streets, neighborhoods, etc. were especially valuable as I guided myself on a map.. The flamboyancy in your entries was also captivating, seems like CC is the path to go..

The call-outs, attacks, and final revealing of others' opinions of your demeanor..

I wouldn't be surprised if this was some sort of infiltration by a special-interest, seeking to create a sensation around the red-pill/man-o-sphere.

I have been reading about Medellín for years on Sovereign Man and am overly cautious of a high-priced market.. Not like I could buy a place, yet.

The thread also brought to my attention there being a membership.. Will look into that. This forum has been valuable to me for years.

Post: #213

^Your post is confusing, what's an online fulfilment centre? What do you mean by an infiltration of special interests seeking to create a sensation around the red pill manospehere?

Most of us go to Medellin because its a nice city with hot women and cheap drugs, we have no ulterior motives. Many of us have met PC in person and have been calling out his whack ass posts because he's half retarded and portraying an image of the city and it's women that isn't realistic.

Post: #214

(05-24-2017 01:49 AM)Prince Charming Wrote:  I am cool as fuck once you get to know me.

No you're not. Cool guys don't run to to the internet to tell the world every time they have sex.

Post: #215

Ok let me recap so I am sure I understand you all..

So I am weird, uncalibrated, fuck only low class whores, semi retarded, mental health problems, sloppy game, not cool, and bad at spelling....

And all I have to do to fix all that is to pay for every thing on a date and buy a rvf membership.

Gotcha =)

Post: #216

Calm down, I think I helped you get hooked up with spell check so that's one box you can tick.

Post: #217

I apreciated that but after careful consideration I have come to the conclusion I am too good for spell check.

Move along peasant

Post: #218

(05-26-2017 02:31 PM)Uruz Wrote:  If you cannot provide for a women, you are not a man. You want sex from her, but what she gets? Jokes about your small dick and trannies?

I'm getting tired of this "you're not a man if you can't provide" bullshit I'm seeing on this thread. That straight up sounds like white knight talk.

PC is being inflexible and stingy. But there's a big difference between getting her a beer or paying for a cab and being a provider.

Post: #219

^ Agreed

On the dates I went on with Colombian girls, all but 1 at least offered to pay her share. Some of them I paid for anyway, some insisted probably because they were proud of their job.

If a young chick has a credit card that her parents pay, why not just let her pay for herself. My goal is to bang her, not buy her an el corral burger.

Just stick to girls that go to top universities and you don't have to deal with a bunch of problems. Usually they will come from upper middle class and up and will have all their needs covered for by their family. You won't have them squawking about not having 8k for a taxi ride.

From what I've experienced their male friends mostly seem pretty beta so there is less competition, maybe a few harmless orbiters.

Post: #220

@scotian
I joined this forum years ago for game-because I live abroad and saw value in datasheets, learn theory.. But it also has come to be a tool for insight into business, which is opening an office in Medellín.. We do SEO in the states and Brasil. Our fulfillment center is an office that executes our business processes, all web based.

Medellín was selected above other latin american cities; choosing Medellín was based on criteria like education, education facilities, english-level of recent college grads, office space cost, rental properties and real estate valuations.

I'm looking for all types of local information not just info on "hot women and cheap drugs".. So naturally this post was loaded with that kind of information, all from PC.

In this objective, all the places he has mentioned for real estate have helped me look though the available properties in the mentioned areas.

in regards to your confusion: I can imagine in an alternative universe this post having been created and produced by a satirist, a special-interest like: gringo haters from Medellín, feminists, those against PUA.. They would hypothetically do so in order to reach their goal of excerpting other radical comments on this thread for their
sensationalist or satirical blog...

Having said that, it's clear that PC is a real dude.. I'd like to meet PC and the other members in Medellín when the time comes.

Post: #221

^^^
If you and P.C. meet up in Medellin, there are two bars, both of which are just a few blocks from lleras, that you really need to check out. One is "El Bar Huevon" and the other is "El Bar Hijadeputa." Unfortunately, I don't have the address for either and can't seem to find the addresses online, so you guys will probably just have to start asking around around town. I'm dying to know how those two places are, so be sure to report back.

Post: #222

(05-29-2017 02:12 AM)Stakes Is High Wrote:  @scotian
I joined this forum years ago for game-because I live abroad and saw value in datasheets, learn theory.. But it also has come to be a tool for insight into business, which is opening an office in Medellín.. We do SEO in the states and Brasil. Our fulfillment center is an office that executes our business processes, all web based.

Medellín was selected above other latin american cities; choosing Medellín was based on criteria like education, education facilities, english-level of recent college grads, office space cost, rental properties and real estate valuations.

You want to open an office in Medellin, which by the way is not a bad idea, but, well... I hope you will first travel there to see the place and various locations and operational details, in person... I mean, surely you won't rely only on PC's posts to make your move and settle there?

In any case, I would be interested, and undoubtedly other forum members too, if you could publish here your process of selection, the ranking of cities, ending on Medellin being the chosen city.

For example, I wonder how Medellin could beat, say Cordova or Santiago or GDL...?

Post: #223

(05-29-2017 02:20 AM)Merenguero Wrote:  just a few blocks from lleras
"El Bar Hijadeputa." Unfortunately, I don't have the address for either

I don't know exactly where this bar is situated, but most definitely the Hijasdeputa' themselves operate right in the middle of the Parque Lleras!

Post: #224

So many haters. This thread is such an enjoyable train wreck. I guarantee half the people hating have never even been with a Colombian woman to start with. Not saying there isn't room for improvement, because some of the shit you say is a bit weird, but if I posted verbatim what I say to some girls and can get away with with the right non verbal body language or tone, I'd probably be getting shit as well.

Post: #225

There are definitely some haters in this thread, but there are also people sincerely trying to help (in vain). No other thread about Colombia has received this kind of hate so there must be good reason for that. I certainly wouldn't base my life decisions (relocation of home and business) on the information in this thread.

I also don't understand the guys saying you have to pay for everything. I pay for everything if she and the situation warrants it; it's not an exchange of money for her time, it's simply a way to make a girl comfortable with you knowing that she doesn't have to worry about anything. There's a difference between being cheap (not paying a $2-5 taxi out of spite or inflated ego) and being stupid (taking a gold-digger/prepago to the best bars and restaurants).