Post: #26

The matter is pretty simple.

There are no shortage of men in China that would happily marry any woman in China. Some guys are marrying mentally disabled women kidnapped in Vietnam and smuggled into southern China.

All that is happening here is that women's natural behavior, to over-estimate their own value in the marriage market, is giving them a real kick in the ass.

There's not a single woman in China that could not have married in her prime, but she ignored her parents' advice and chose not to do so.

There's no crisis here. It's social economics in action.

This isn't a backlash against women's increased options. Men in China aren't trying to punish women. They are just showing preference towards partners that would be an ideal spouse.

Feminists would prefer that women never face any consequences for any of their actions. They expect men to bend over backwards and sacrifice their own pursuit of happiness so that women can fuck around in the 20's and demand a rich and successful husband in her thirties. That's what all the fuss is about.

Sorry, ladies. No man anywhere in the world is impressed with your "accomplishments." He doesn't need any of that. He needs a woman that will be a good mother to his children and who will keep him sexually satisfied and won't insult and embarrass him in public. That's it.

You chose instead to compete against men. Enjoy your cats.

Post: #27

Different country, same story. Women pissed that men don't judge them on their 'career' like women do for men. And then they group together to lament, that it's men who can't handle them. That they enable each other to continue to make poor decisions is kinda fascinating yet pathetic.

Newsflash to women, as I and many others have said countless times:

1). You don't get to choose what men find desirable in a woman any more than men get to choose what women find desirable in a man.

2). You have absolutely no moral high ground. Women are just as superficial as men.

I haven't been around so much lately because I've been in a semi-relationship with a 26 year old (I turned 42 not too long ago). She has a career, but she's self aware enough to know that's not why I like her. Sure, I'm glad that she's not a lazy piece of shit, but it's because she's cute, fit and cool. And she laughs at the look on my face when I hear her friends talk about men. They all think they're the shit and can't understand why they get pumped and dumped. It must be because men are intimidated by them. The same circle jerk nonsense.

Anyway, it was interesting in watching part of that documentary how they gloss over the poor men. God forbid an average woman marry a decent guy who doesn't own a house and car. Emphasis on the word 'average', because that's what a vast majority of these women are, and in many cases I'm being generous. The sooner they realize this, that they are not special and they don't get to choose what men find desirable in a spouse and adapt accordingly, the better off they'll be.

Post: #28

Fucked another left over woman last night twice and then once again in the morning.

My research is looking promising, but at this point, I still need more data-points.

Will report back soon with more detailed information.

Post: #29

(12-17-2016 02:41 AM)Suits Wrote:  The matter is pretty simple.

There are no shortage of men in China that would happily marry any woman in China. Some guys are marrying mentally disabled women kidnapped in Vietnam and smuggled into southern China.

All that is happening here is that women's natural behavior, to over-estimate their own value in the marriage market, is giving them a real kick in the ass.

There's not a single woman in China that could not have married in her prime, but she ignored her parents' advice and chose not to do so.

There's no crisis here. It's social economics in action.

This isn't a backlash against women's increased options. Men in China aren't trying to punish women. They are just showing preference towards partners that would be an ideal spouse.

Feminists would prefer that women never face any consequences for any of their actions. They expect men to bend over backwards and sacrifice their own pursuit of happiness so that women can fuck around in the 20's and demand a rich and successful husband in her thirties. That's what all the fuss is about.

Sorry, ladies. No man anywhere in the world is impressed with your "accomplishments." He doesn't need any of that. He needs a woman that will be a good mother to his children and who will keep him sexually satisfied and won't insult and embarrass him in public. That's it.

You chose instead to compete against men. Enjoy your cats.

This. It would be like any Eastern-European man who has his career together and isn't an alcoholic saying...there just aren't any good women left! Nonsense! When you have a severe market imbalance, and you still can't land a mate, it is because your expectations are out of line with reality.

Post: #30

Quote:The longer I'm here the less I like the women. I'll still fuck them of course - but if the test comes out positive, we're headed immediately to the 死宝贝医生, and if she doesn't want to do that, I'm vapor and she's stuck raising a half foreign baby on her own.

This is extremely ruthless. I encourage you to treat your children with more dignity.

Also, as a side note, the above behavior on a wide enough scale is what creates feminism. Those kids will grow up thinking that their father is to blame for the world's evils, and overreact by supporting policies like jail time for failure to pay for child support. Not that one man can create such an effect, of course.

Post: #31

I'm at a point in my life where I'm not that tempted to sleep with a woman I can't respect on some level. If a woman has a revolting personality, it just turns me off. I'm in wife search mode, and the idea of sticking it in a woman with a horrible personality just doesn't appeal. Focusing on the prize. I think that's part of the reason I'm over sex for sex sake. Just feels hollow afterwards if you hate the girl.

Post: #32

(12-19-2016 12:05 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  I'm at a point in my life where I'm not that tempted to sleep with a woman I can't respect on some level. If a woman has a revolting personality, it just turns me off. I'm in wife search mode, and the idea of sticking it in a woman with a horrible personality just doesn't appeal. Focusing on the prize. I think that's part of the reason I'm over sex for sex sake. Just feels hollow afterwards if you hate the girl.

That's what I find rather ironic about my own 'Red-Pill' journey.

I'm much more aware of the real nature & behaviour of women, yet it results in literal apathy on my part for so many 5's, 6's & even 7's.
Standards too high? Yeah maybe.
Yet when I find difficulty in detailing what it is that the average women can do that actually is of any benefit to me; aside from the sexual...
My inclination to pursue average women rarely transpires.

So on one hand I'm essentially after the proverbial unicorn. Yet due to the 'Red-Pill', I'm well aware that it is foolish to chase after fantasy.
Plus, when a 'unicorn' is actually a rhino...? Pass...

Post: #33

(12-18-2016 10:01 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote:The longer I'm here the less I like the women. I'll still fuck them of course - but if the test comes out positive, we're headed immediately to the 死宝贝医生, and if she doesn't want to do that, I'm vapor and she's stuck raising a half foreign baby on her own.

This is extremely ruthless.

Evidently, you aren't aware of how ruthless the Chinese can be. If any legal action is taken against you, no more what, the police will immediately confiscate your passport, which means you won't have a leg to stand on until to give in to all of the other party's terms.

And your embassy won't lift a finger to help you.

While the Chinese system is a lot more balanced towards working men, this doesn't apply to foreign men.

I recommend (again) that you reconsider actually spending time in other countries other than the US. It'll change the way you think.

It's a different world here in China. Only the ruthless survive.

Only legitimate "boots on the ground" experience can actually open your eyes to these realities. Which is why American businesses so consistently get their asses handed to them by Chinese suppliers.

Post: #34

How appropriate that this matchmaking group is meeting in a park filled with dinosaurs.

Post: #35

Don't worry. There's a good portion of extremely beta and low T foreign expats (usually SJW types) that will settle for and even marry these women.

Chinese men laugh at how pathetic they are.

As for "good diets" and "good skin", just lol. Most Chinese girls eat a diet of rice or noodles with greasy deep fried foods, and very little vegetables or fruit. They often have greasy skin and acne breakouts. I've even seen 25+ year old adult Chinese women with acne.

Post: #36

(12-16-2016 12:42 PM)Laner Wrote:  Lots of hot Chinese women would often rather be a #2 mistress of a baller than settle for any man their level. Below? Ha, not even an option unless they one of the few lucky Chinese to actually fall in love.

So basically, Biology. Its funny because all the
B.S. documentaries in the world can't Change Nature, and if The Chinese government gets sick of their shit (the people who want to make "female plight" documentaries like this that aren't female plight) its over for them.

Post: #37

Suits, I agree that Chinese law is ruthless, and as a culture, the Chinese can be ruthless sons of bitches. The question is, would you consider any Chinese girl for LTR or marriage, or only if she lived outside China?

Post: #38

Quote:This is extremely ruthless. I encourage you to treat your children with more dignity.

Also, as a side note, the above behavior on a wide enough scale is what creates feminism. Those kids will grow up thinking that their father is to blame for the world's evils, and overreact by supporting policies like jail time for failure to pay for child support. Not that one man can create such an effect, of course.

On it's face it might, but what I had neglected to mention is that I always wrap it up and then promptly dispose of the condom (Chinese toilets are weak so I don't always flush them, but often I do).

So barring the highly unlikely situation where I got a defective condom, any chick coming to me saying I knocked her up is...

A. A few days late (this has happened to me twice)
B. Trying to cuck me into raising another man's kid.
Or C. She fished the condom out of the trash and actually impregnated herself (I wouldn't put this past a Chinese girl, and I'm sure Suits agrees with me - this is often how pro athletes get snagged).

The stars align and a meet a girl I actually like and want a future with, ok, but no way in hell I end up like a few people I know here (and quite many I know back home), chained to a chick I can barely tolerate for 18 years. Not happening.

Post: #39

The pollution is the real killer for them, aesthetically. Its bad enough in Beijing that its the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes a day, every day. So by age 30 most Chinese women have effectively been heavy smokers for 30 years; its no wonder they start to look like shit.

Though the diet doesn't help much either I'm sure. Between the low quality food and the pollution I felt like I was slowly dying from the inside-out while I was in China.

Post: #40

(12-19-2016 12:27 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:01 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote:The longer I'm here the less I like the women. I'll still fuck them of course - but if the test comes out positive, we're headed immediately to the 死宝贝医生, and if she doesn't want to do that, I'm vapor and she's stuck raising a half foreign baby on her own.

This is extremely ruthless.

Evidently, you aren't aware of how ruthless the Chinese can be. If any legal action is taken against you, no more what, the police will immediately confiscate your passport, which means you won't have a leg to stand on until to give in to all of the other party's terms.

And your embassy won't lift a finger to help you.

While the Chinese system is a lot more balanced towards working men, this doesn't apply to foreign men.

I recommend (again) that you reconsider actually spending time in other countries other than the US. It'll change the way you think.

You mean I will decide to knock up and ditch my kids? Nah, don't think so.

Also Suits, speaking of people who need to walk the walk, where is my trip you promised me?

/thread-51316...pid1217668

Quote:Samseau, I agree with the forum members who believe that travel is an important educational experience.

Serious offer: if you buy your own plane ticket and arrange your own visa (I can assist you with information on how to do this), I'll cover your expenses in Beijing for up to two weeks here in Beijing. I'll provide you with comfortable housing, a kitchen and groceries at your disposal and spending money each day.

You'll be able to see several once-in-a-life-time historic sites, including the Forbidden City and the Great Wall. I'll share with you my proven online dating method for Beijing, which should get you set up with enough dates with English speakers to pretty much guarantee you get laid. The housing I will provide you with offers just about the best logistics available any where in China.

On the weekend, we can hit the best clubs and you can show me your proven dance game method.

Normally, people would spend up to $10K on the vacation experience I'm offering you, but you can have it for the cost of an airline ticket and a visa processing fee.

You just have to say yes.

I recommend you actually mean what you say, so people take you seriously.

Post: #41

(12-19-2016 12:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Also Suits, speaking of people who need to walk the walk, where is my trip you promised me?


I recommend you actually mean what you say, so people take you seriously.

Did you purchase the tickets and get the visa? I've gotten a Chinese Visa twice, it was all pretty straight forward. Looks like the only that has changed is the price. Beijing was a cool city, with some of the prettiest asian women I have ever seen. If I were you I would jump on Suit's offer in a heart beat.

Post: #42

Yeah, that looks to me like the ball is in your court Samseau. Did you purchase flights? If not, why not?

Suits is already offering to give you free accommodation, living costs and tour guiding. Which is a fantastically generous offer. Asking you to purchase your own flights to get there seems fairly reasonable.

Post: #43

(12-19-2016 02:19 PM)aSimpNamedBrokeback Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 12:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Also Suits, speaking of people who need to walk the walk, where is my trip you promised me?


I recommend you actually mean what you say, so people take you seriously.

Did you purchase the tickets and get the visa? I've gotten a Chinese Visa twice, it was all pretty straight forward. Looks like the only that has changed is the price. Beijing was a cool city, with some of the prettiest asian women I have ever seen. If I were you I would jump on Suit's offer in a heart beat.

(12-19-2016 02:35 PM)zatara Wrote:  Yeah, that looks to me like the ball is in your court Samseau. Did you purchase flights? If not, why not?

Suits is already offering to give you free accommodation, living costs and tour guiding. Which is a fantastically generous offer. Asking you to purchase your own flights to get there seems fairly reasonable.

Why would I spend money on a con? Dude never even replied to my PM's.

Post: #44

The OP's video highlighted a very positive social aspect about China: the fact that the rabid, fucked-up anti-traditionalism embodied in communism, and its most radical manifestation, the Cultural Revolution, was so soundly rejected. Half a century of hardcore indoctrination did not work, the Chinese promptly dumped the unnatural brainwashing they were subjected to.

China is a bit like Russia, its government cares about their traditional values and understands that the undermining of those values is an existential threat to their country. they have correctly identified feminism as a deeply subversive dogma, so much so that they moved to have it outlawed.

Also, CULTURAL MARXISM. If you haven't watched that video or paid enough attention, watch again this segment:

https://youtu.be/QarOjjKfseo?t=15m55s

Gotta love the charges they dropped on those five westernized feminists: picking quarrels and provoking trouble, now how cool is that? Can you imagine how great it would be to have Chinese authorities clean up American campuses?

If you wanted to see how the "marxism" part ties into cultural marxism, and how feminism is a key underpinning of cultural marxism, this clip above is Exhibit A. Communism is the most efficient system to control people, and in order to have that system, you need to break down all traditional roles, especially family and gender roles. The Maoist "Iron Woman" is pretty much the modern western empowered woman ideal, down to the masculinized hair. They were decades ahead.

Unfortunately, while the iron woman syndrome failed to take root in post-communist China, its basis is a lot more solid in the West, because in Western countries it was skillfully sold to women, as opposed to imposed by an authoritarian government. Yet another proof of Huxley's technocratic model of a more subtly repressive brave new world, where the subjects willfully embrace and defend their serfdom, being far more efficient than the Orwellian model, where artificial cultural norms are imposed from the top down.

Post: #45

I tried to watch the video in the OP, and could not make it past 2 mins.

Anyway, Vice better watch out. The CCP beats and deports anyone promoting feminism in China. They will kick them out next time, I highly doubt they will ignore them doing this again.

(12-16-2016 11:28 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  This thread is a duplicate of this one from 2012:


China's Leftover Women
/thread-16773.html

Get used to it. There will be another one next year with predictable replies, justified rants on shitty Chinese behaviors, AWALT diatribes, bad marriage related intel from guys that will never marry one, intel from guys that don't date them but live there, predictable advice from guys that date leftovers due to babies rabies, guys discussing Chinese outside of China as if it is relevant to the discussion, and whatever else you can think of.

@Samseau

Hey did you ever think about going to South Korea before? You might like that trip more than China in a way. Either place is interesting in their own ways so in many ways it doesn't matter as long as you get a chance to get out sometimes. I'm selling, tossing out shit, and packing up myself as we speak.

Post: #46

(12-19-2016 02:51 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Why would I spend money on a con? Dude never even replied to my PM's.

I do not know why Suits didn't reply to your PMs, but I can assure you he is not a con.
He met me in China, in person, various times and helped make my trips there some of the most memorable I have had in a long time.



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Post: #47

Yo Kai,

I have some questions about Chinese women in Houston man. These broads that I encountered a year ago are more delusional than wonder bread girls, mostly off match.com

They're 36-42 and 100% FOB, they want a rich man to be their provider. One wrote this "He didn't allow me to donate money to charity or church either." and another wanted a man who would "pay for my child's preschool and live in a area with good schools".

If Chinese men won't date them and they know rich folks go after young women, why would they think someone would oblique their requirements? They are rather plain looking and dress too conservatively to be making those demands. Why is their hamster in overdrive? What's going on in their minds? Someone has to be a moron to pay 8K a year for someone else's kid just to be with a lady. I told the charity lady that I was okay with donating her own money to charity, then she claim that I insulted and offended her...didn't really care.

It's only Chinese older women, not asians in general and no black/hisp/white girls.

Post: #48

Cattle Rustler,

Self-delusion is real for both men and women, although it manifests itself differently. Remember the UCSB shootings? The shooter declared himself to be "The Perfect Gentleman" before he went on to slaughter people left and right.

These women you speak of who want a rich man largely are delusional given their age and looks. Still, never underestimate the average beta male (including the wealthy ones) desire to have female companionship. There are many, many lonely men out there. All it takes for one of these women to find one, befriend him and marry in for the payout.

Presenting Exhibit A:







This is the gameless, rich, schlub beta male that these women are looking for.

Post: #49

I get what you're saying and agree with it in general, we all want the best mate we can get. However, this is something quite peculiar and specific.

Asian American women in Houston don't act like this
Women of other ethnicities in houston don't act like this
Other Asian who've been in Houston for a while don't act like this
Asian (as a whole) women in Dallas don't act like this.

It's only Plain Jane Chinese FOB women in Houston.

The ones that dress up or are not plain jane are normal. The Charity lady is involved in some arts stuff but her day job is a bean counter and looks flat as a well.

Post: #50

I'm guessing it is because they are FOB's that they heard from the Huffington Post that white men all have yellow fever, never bothering to question it. As if all white men find all Asian women attractive, or any Asian women attractive for that matter. The average Chinese FOB that I've met is often very sheltered and provincial. China's state-controlled media means they have stunted intellectual development, which can manifest itself in some very odd social behaviors and delusions. Where duh rich white boys at?!?!?!