The original alt-right believe Trump will make a difference & is not controlled by the elites (NWO/Illuminati/Bilderburgers/Skull&Crossbones), special interests, corporations.
The other faction, Trump is a puppet who ran on a premise of invoking strong emotions one way or the other, but he's already given up on the wall, prosecuting Hillary, deportations, etc.
^ I love it when newbies jump into a discussion having clearly not read any of it and try to redefine the premises based on their own faulty perception of it.
When Spencer says "For us, it is either conquer or die", he is correct. What will happen to white people once they become a significant enough minority? Well past history shows us time and time again, that when whites become a small enough minority, the other races start openly killing them.
So he is correct in saying that. If white people become a minority whether in America or Europe, we are literally going to die.
To those of us who have travelled outside of America, travelled to Asia, Africa, South Asia, or South America, we can all report the truth- that white people, specifically white men, are discriminated against in many ways there. And most of it is due to a beta mentality by the local guys, they are fucking envious and jealous because we are fucking their women, but can you imagine what will happen if such ethnic men become the majority in a formerly white country? The eventual end result will be white genocide, guaranteed.
So forget all the Neo Nazi labels and stereotypes the stupid media wants to throw at us. If whites don't succeed in at least establishing their own all white ethnic states and communities, we are eventually going to be genocided out of existence. And that will be very bad for the world itself, considering that pretty much all new inventions and technological advances come from white men.
(12-06-2016 04:45 PM)Valentine Wrote: ^ I love it when newbies jump into a discussion having clearly not read any of it and try to redefine the premises based on their own faulty perception of it.
Not sure how to respond to that. Anyways, here's an example:
Old infowars: Trump is a NWO puppet, Clinton stooge, serves his cronies, etc.
New infowars: Trump is basically King Nebuchadnezzar, Hadrion, or Cyrus, or a combination of them. He's going to save the sovereign nation from evil invaders.
The old infowars/new infowars example is the easiest way to explain the schism.
White men are also envious and jealous of minorities who fuck "their" women. It's human nature for that to occur, although I think it's stupid for any race of men to be envious of other races fucking "their" women because it really shows their insecurity and lack of game.
Anyway, I think all this talk about white nationalism is stupid to me. Why people care this much about racial purity is beyond me. We are all going to die anyway, so getting worked up about demographics is futile to me.
All I care about is Americans of all shapes and colors. Like one poster earlier put it, Whether you are white living in middle America, Black living in Detroit or the south, , Hispanic living in the Southwest or Florida, Asian living in California, we are all Americans. And we all share and live in this great country of ours. We are all stuck with each other so we might as well try to make it work.
Your first post here is, "I'm part of the alt-right, and I'm going to sling a bunch of insults at established members." You haven't even been here more than a day and already you're doing idiotic call-outs of people who've been here a long time, and contributed a great deal to the forum.
What's the point? You're not persuading anybody. A child could see that your posts are going to have the opposite of their intended effect. So you can't possibly be intending for these posts to help the cause of the alt-right.
What you're doing is making it more difficult for people who ARE part of the alt-right to defend our position. You're making it more difficult for us to spread our ideas. You're closing the minds of people who would otherwise be susceptible to the alt-right's influence, because now when we say something they'll immediately think of your slurs, instead of our arguments. If you're lucky, you might be able to get any alt-right discussion banned from the board entirely.
Ergo, you are a shill. These tactics might work on less sophiscated boards, but nobody here has time for your bullshit. So you need to #GoBack and get #OutOutOut.
Trump is bar none the most entertaining president-elect ever.
I like him, but you do have to at least question the very real possibility that he is controlled opposition. One of the problems in the alt-right is the flat out refusal to discuss that. It's basically off limits.
Quote:^I called him an affirmative action poster boy. I stand by it.
You need to stop cucking around with the nice guy act.
"Oh...if only we're pleasant...maybe they'll stop calling us nazis".
You're delusional. That strategy has failed the right time and time again...
Am I an Ancestral Meta-Cuck, though? That's the real question.
Again, you already know you're a shill, so there's not much point in telling you. I'm pointing this out for members of the forum who might not be as familiar with these tactics. You're an ideal example of the kind. For example...
Quote:We do discuss it a lot, actually.
The fact that he's surrounded himself with individuals of the kosher variety has not escaped our notice.
Note the completely out-of-context, weird antisemitism. Complete with weird new-speak: "Individuals of the Kosher Variety".
(12-06-2016 07:02 PM)#buildthewall Wrote: ^I called him an affirmative action poster boy. I stand by it.
You need to stop cucking around with the nice guy act.
"Oh...if only we're pleasant...maybe they'll stop calling us nazis".
You're delusional. That strategy has failed the right time and time again...
Judging from Atlanta Man's posts here he knows genetics better than 99% of people around. I wouldn't call that an affirmative action example.
What evidence do you have for your claims? Is Ben Carson also an AA example? I'd say 50% of Blacks/Hispanics I've met in the universities get there through AA, but the other 50% would have gotten just as far (or maybe a little less but still about the same).
(12-04-2016 10:18 PM)RedPillUK Wrote: Instead of arguing about racism, neo-nazis, nazi salutes or whatever because the media has demonised this guy Richard Spencer as a Nazi, we should actually watch or read something by him before judging him.
I watched the video and all I learned is that Richard Spencer is good at avoiding make public statements that would show his true colours.
I love Spencer's cop out. Black girl asks, "Do you believe Whites are superior?"
Spencer: "There is no objective standard to judge the races."
Then why did Spencer end his NPI speech with "They need us, we don't need them"?
He's not so tough when the room isn't 100% White.
By the way - I'm no White nationalist. I think Whites are superior, on average, to the other races. Why can't Mr. Roman Salute man say the same thing to a Black girl?
What does he think this will accomplish? Theres no way for this to have a positive effect in any way unless it's for relatively poor personal gain.
This is either controlled opposition or blind greed (to get his moment), there's no way a Trump supporter, or a supporter of any movement thinks this is a viable path towards advancement.