Something about his run tells me it's about revenge against the DNC this time.
I don't really care who wins the nomination as long as it's not the deep-state's pick. I'd like Bernie to get in there and fuck things up, that's for sure. I suspect he's been stewing long and hard about how he was cheated in 2016 and frankly I believe he really is more of an ideologue, not a deep state whore like Harris.
It's going to make for great theater.
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(02-20-2019 10:21 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote: Something about his run tells me it's about revenge against the DNC this time.
I don't really care who wins the nomination as long as it's not the deep-state's pick. I'd like Bernie to get in there and fuck things up, that's for sure. I suspect he's been stewing long and hard about how he was cheated in 2016 and frankly I believe he really is more of an ideologue, not a deep state whore like Harris.
It's going to make for great theater.
I disagree. Bernie will find a way to lose because he's a loser. What kind of loser would give half ass swings at Clinton on even just the email scandals when he could have went after her health? What kind of loser would get cucked by BLM on his own stage? I have money down he'll fold like a cheap suit. "It's all a joke guys!! HAHAHA, no refunds too!!!" Prices at PredictIt are still at 1c for "no".
(09-21-2018 09:31 AM)kosko Wrote: For the folks who stay ignorant and hating and not improving their situation during these Trump years, it will be bleak and cold once the good times stop.
(02-20-2019 10:12 AM)infinitejest Wrote: Bernie is the ultimate cuck. It still pisses me off thinking about how he based his whole 2016 run off railing against the 99% and the bankers running the show before selling out and endorsing the hag in bed with Wallstreet Clinton. And of course the California liberals forgot about all that and are dutifully praising Cuck Bernie again today like the well-programmed NPCs they are. Remember, this is the man who got pushed off his own rally stage by BLM protesters. I just can't see a world where this man defeats Trump for the presidency barring some black swan event or serious election rigging. I find it more likely that Crooked Hillary throws her decrepit hat in the ring one more time and the whole DNC race turns into a shitshow with the left predictably eating itself.
He' a bit more that a cuck, he's a fake and a total "team player", good cop to Hillary's bad cop. Hillary and the DNC fucked him over, and outright cheated in the primaries, quite blatantly so. He folded like a cheap tent, either because he's a total fake or because he's just a career leftist looking for comfort near the end of his career. He's just a tired old trotskist, and he's fully into the program, "eat the rich" anti-white bolshevik identity politics.
Some good insights here, all of it is not necessarily exact but the big picture is quite on target:
This guy is worth a second look, he seems like a decent candidate, at least by the Dems' standards (granted those have been abysmal). Probably the most competent of the bunch, he's got a bit of Lee Kuan Yew in him.
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This is why people underestimating a simple and positive message are likely going to end up surprised again.
The same thing happened with Trump.
Tigermandingo is saying what tens of millions of Americans are thinking.
(02-20-2019 11:08 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote: Fuck it, bring on socialism.
I might as well get some free health care and education.
Meanwhile the average conservative american is bled like a stuck pig then beats his chest about how paying for his own health care is the greatest thing in the world while Ratheon and Northrop Grumman are paid 30K per toilet seat they import from China @$1.
Bernie can trot out on stage once a week and say "we run deficits in the hundreds of billions of dollars and the average Joe gets nothing for it while other nations run balanced budgets and still provide their people with free health care and cheap education(true). Where is all our money going?!"
He's going to get a lot of noggins joggin'. He may not plan to win but he's old enough that he might be in it simply to fuck the deep state over. Bet your ass they told him he was going to have an "unexpected stroke" if he didn't roll over for Hillary. But Trump's election and the Yellow Vests in France have made it clear that the deep state is a god that bleeds. Bernie could be out for blood of his own, even if he has no chance at the brass ring.
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(02-20-2019 10:19 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote: What happens when Ocasio-Cortez backs Bernie Sanders - a white male?
That'll cause some DNC reee-sterics...
Because Bernie can play the Jewish card to get those sweet, sweet victim hood points. I think Jews are above blacks but below females in the victim hood hierarchy chart, though I haven't checked it recently so I could be wrong.
Quote:The New York Times reported Thursday that Harris affirmed her support for reparations in a statement after agreeing last week with a radio host that reparations are necessary.
"We have to be honest that people in this country do not start from the same place or have access to the same opportunities," Harris said in the statement. "I’m serious about taking an approach that would change policies and structures and make real investments in black communities."
Warren has also said she supports reparations, according to the Times, though her campaign declined to provide further details to the newspaper.
I can't imagine this will go well in battleground states (you know, the ones with all the poor white people) if either of them gets to the general election.
(02-21-2019 05:54 PM)Wutang Wrote: Democratic Party is doubling down on race politics. Warren and Harris both are calling for "reparations" for African Americans
Quote:The New York Times reported Thursday that Harris affirmed her support for reparations in a statement after agreeing last week with a radio host that reparations are necessary.
"We have to be honest that people in this country do not start from the same place or have access to the same opportunities," Harris said in the statement. "I’m serious about taking an approach that would change policies and structures and make real investments in black communities."
Warren has also said she supports reparations, according to the Times, though her campaign declined to provide further details to the newspaper.
I can't imagine this will go well in battleground states (you know, the ones with all the poor white people) if either of them gets to the general election.
I say good. This is just a logical step after affirmative action, "diversity" quotas, scholarships for not being ethnic European, ext. ext. Fuck it. Just take everything that we have. I know I'll be glad to work my ass to the bone so that non-whites can get free money for something that ended over 150 years ago.
Today, there are people who remember relatives from their childhood who were slaves.
In 25 years from now, not one single person alive will have actually known somebody in real life who was a slave. But hey, who's counting, white man bad, am I right?
Reading shit like this makes me mad, but I think I've been directing my anger towards the wrong people. I have never once heard a normal black person say stupid shit like this. This type of garbage seems to be permeating from the top down, not the bottom up.
I need to remind myself of this more often, that normal everyday Americans don't think like this. It's mostly the elites who spout this nonsense, not the everyday folks.
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(02-21-2019 05:54 PM)Wutang Wrote: Democratic Party is doubling down on race politics. Warren and Harris both are calling for "reparations" for African Americans
Quote:The New York Times reported Thursday that Harris affirmed her support for reparations in a statement after agreeing last week with a radio host that reparations are necessary.
"We have to be honest that people in this country do not start from the same place or have access to the same opportunities," Harris said in the statement. "I’m serious about taking an approach that would change policies and structures and make real investments in black communities."
Warren has also said she supports reparations, according to the Times, though her campaign declined to provide further details to the newspaper.
I can't imagine this will go well in battleground states (you know, the ones with all the poor white people) if either of them gets to the general election.
Reparations, open borders, 9th month infanticides -now there's a winning platform!-
1. Harris & Warren are both talking about a tax cut for low and middle class people
2. Lots of black people are low and middle class
3. Dems control the House
4. If either Harris & Warren win, after 2020 then they can railroad such a tax cut through the House
5. If after 2020 Republicans still control the Senate, they have hard time explaining why they are rejecting a low and middle class tax cut. If Democrats control the Senate, then disregard - railroaded through there
6. Dems can tout that tax cut as "reparations"
Stop taking what candidates say literally and instead approximate. Decades of political theatre from both sides show that this is how the system works.
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I'm not sure how much their platform matters. Republican morale is in the dumps, and the other side is fired up and ready to "Get Drumpf".
How on Earth do we win with that?
The bigger question is what's the point of winning an election if the Left and Israel still get everything they want anyway?
It's well past the point now in your country and mine that the so-called conservative party exists ONLY to make the Left's insanity economically viable. Why else did Trump bench the wall for two fucking years to focus on jobs and trade?
The Left collectivizes the profits and the fake Right socializes the losses. The best part is that the typical midwits on the Right are not only too dumb to see it, they're too self-righteous and egotistical to admit that they've been too dumb to see it.
I'm with Roosh in that Trump was the last nail in the coffin of democracy for me. I'm for whatever collapses the system faster, and if that's four straight Left wing terms without any corrective economic surgery from the fake-Right then so be it.
Free-everything for everybody means the electricity bill at the NSA stops getting paid faster. That's all I care about now. I'd rather be hunting for my food and reading by candlelight than have to deal what's coming if the deep state manages to hold this shit-show together.
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I'm not sure how much their platform matters. Republican morale is in the dumps, and the other side is fired up and ready to "Get Drumpf".
How on Earth do we win with that?
Biggest problem: pre-election, Hillary had the MSM, Trump had the internet.
Trump has ceded the internet to censors with absolutely no fight. He lifted his fingers... To type some tweets. Leaving his supporters feeling even more isolated.
I don't think it matters who the Democrats run.
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(02-22-2019 10:54 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote: The bigger question is what's the point of winning an election if the Left and Israel still get everything they want anyway?
It's well past the point now in your country and mine that the so-called conservative party exists ONLY to make the Left's insanity economically viable. Why else did Trump bench the wall for two fucking years to focus on jobs and trade?
The Left collectivizes the profits and the fake Right socializes the losses. The best part is that the typical midwits on the Right are not only too dumb to see it, they're too self-righteous and egotistical to admit that they've been too dumb to see it.
I'm with Roosh in that Trump was the last nail in the coffin of democracy for me. I'm for whatever collapses the system faster, and if that's four straight Left wing terms without any corrective economic surgery from the fake-Right then so be it.
Free-everything for everybody means the electricity bill at the NSA stops getting paid faster. That's all I care about now. I'd rather be hunting for my food and reading by candlelight than have to deal what's coming if the deep state manages to hold this shit-show together.
We just got a new AG. He better get cracking and clean up these messes.
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Harris trying to play both sides of the fence: she wants to champion woke progressive policies but at the same time she still wants to have the same political machine that propped up Clinton to power her campaign. Hence she is pushing back against the socialist label.
Quote:At a campaign stop in New Hampshire earlier this week, Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) was the first to draw a line in the sand.
“The people of New Hampshire will tell me what’s required to compete in New Hampshire, but I will tell you I am not a democratic socialist,” Harris said after she was asked if she needed to be a democratic socialist to win the Granite State.
“I believe that what voters do want is they want to know that whoever is going to lead understands that in America today, not everyone has an equal opportunity and access to a path to success,” she said before adding that the U.S. needs to “course correct” on the issue of income inequality.
I'm starting to think if you want Trump to win in 2020, then pushing for Harris to win the Democratic primary is the way to go. It seems like the political class that pushed Clinton onto the masses even when no one wanted it want to repeat the strategy. The difference is that this time they're gonna install an identity politics enhancement on top of their preferred candidate.
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Harris is using the same team that Hillary used. Her identity politics will not go over well in states like Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina etc. They just won't.
That's not to say that she can't win, but I'd be more concerned about Beto becoming the Dems nominee and flipping Texas. Hopefully we get Kamala.
I realized one of the big reasons I like his is because he's one of the few people period right now who is directly talking to the reasons why Trump was elected--societal change, particularly in terms of jobs (or lack thereof), happening at an alarming rate.
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(02-22-2019 10:54 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote: ...
We just got a new AG. He better get cracking and clean up these messes.
Too little too late.
I'm not here to shit in anyone's cereal for it's own sake but team wait'n'see has been fragged into ground beef.
I'm a rural drongo on the other side of the world who seems to give more of a shit about America than most Americans do, but that was only because I thought that she had the potential to once again become the shining city on the hill and light the way forward for the rest of the West.
That's over, and it's over for a lot of Trump's substantial international support base which has spent incalculable hours combating fake news both in America and abroad.
He keeps writing cheques for effort applied and they keep bouncing. What's worse is that he's stood by while Silicon Valley makes it literally ten times harder for the millions of guys like me to help him. No more. If he wants the efforts of the millions of people like me then it falls on him to wow us. The benefit of the doubt is gone.
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This is from a series of skits from chapelles show that asks “if we give money to black people for slavery reparations, then what would they spend it on?”
(02-22-2019 10:06 AM)MaceTyrell Wrote: 1. Harris & Warren are both talking about a tax cut for low and middle class people
2. Lots of black people are low and middle class
3. Dems control the House
4. If either Harris & Warren win, after 2020 then they can railroad such a tax cut through the House
5. If after 2020 Republicans still control the Senate, they have hard time explaining why they are rejecting a low and middle class tax cut. If Democrats control the Senate, then disregard - railroaded through there
6. Dems can tout that tax cut as "reparations"
Stop taking what candidates say literally and instead approximate. Decades of political theatre from both sides show that this is how the system works.
Ok, so this would be, like, the reverse of how an effective political theatre campaign would take place.
Everyone who would be in favor of reparations is already voting for the Dem candidate. Explicitly talking about and advocating them only alienates those on the fence making it unlikely that they will be elected and able to push the tax cuts/"reparations" through.
If instead they simply talked about tax cuts for the middle and lower classes, they would appeal to a much larger audience and, if they were then elected and were able to push such an initiative through, would be able to tout portions of the cuts as reparations for the affected groups.
With that being said, I'm all in favor of them using the backwards logic and torpedoing their own chances.
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