Post: #26

Pro: Easier to see through her shit.

Post: #27

Pros:
Her pussy is tighter.
Her body is more toned.
Her tits are perkier.
She's not as used and abused.
She doesn't expect you to marry her yesterday.
She's easier to "mold" to fit your ideal girl.
She is less likely to have kids.
She doesn't have an ex-husband.
She's more fun.
You'll get high fives from other guys who find out you're banging her.
You feel better banging a 19 year old than a 30 year old (all around, period).
She's more naive (this can definitely be a good thing.
She's more likely to look to you for advice/guidance/leadership.
You can still teach her things.
She's hasn't figured out who she is yet, she's not set in her ways.


There are a ton more. But I think you get the point......

Post: #28

(10-30-2016 05:34 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 05:29 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  I dated a 19y for 7 months when I was 41. I don't think I even saw one dirty look. Of course, I looked early 30s but she definitely looked u21.

Especially when the two of you have good chemistry. Other people just smile at you like they'd smile at any couple.

This is a very very good point. We had excellent chemistry and would still be banging if she hadn't moved across the ocean.

Post: #29

Pro:
1) Lowest rate of Downs syndrome. I believe a 22 year old has roughly half the chance of a Down's syndrome baby as a 32 year old.

http://www.ds-health.com/risk.htm

2) Chance of more children. A 19 year old could have theoretically 20 kids if you want them, a 33 year old much less.

3) Less chance of VD all other things being equal.

4) Less chance of her dying before you do. ( See movie Elegy with much older guy.)

5) The sweet hate from the peers of women who rejected you before you became a DGAF god.

6) Feeling superior

Post: #30

(10-31-2016 02:20 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  1) After the sex, there is usually not much more to the chick. This can happen no matter what her age is, but young chicks more so.

Couldn't disagree more. The age difference creates fascinating different perspectives. It opens your world to new things (music, culture, humor). Millennials are a terrific and fun generation - much more than Xers, on average. Plenty of girls at 19 are much more interesting than other women at 35.

(10-31-2016 02:20 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  2) If you have a job and she is in school
- different schedules
- different directions

Not really, she's got homework and you may or may not, depending on your job, but the hours and demands of school are similar to work. None of the problems that you'd experience with a 19 year old nursing student aren't ones you wouldn't experience with a 35 year old nurse. If anything, she has more freedom and less baggage.

(10-31-2016 02:20 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  3) her peer group - she'll want to hang, and you won't

Once again, it depends on the specifics. I'm 43, started dating my current girlfriend three years ago when she was 22. I get along great with her friends, they get along great with me. I never really thought I would, but I find them far more interesting than most of the people who are my age. If you're fun, like to do the things they do, then it's not a big deal. Her male friends will look up to you, and her girlfriends will treat you like a guy their age.
I never thought I'd enjoy going to nightclubs and Vegas pool parties, but I do and age's never been an issue. (I'm in good/decent shape, have all my hair, but this it. I act my age)

(10-31-2016 02:20 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  4) she thinks young.
She might have daddy issues, but you don't want the responsibility of her father

All good girls / women are looking for the same qualities in men, regardless of age. "Daddy issues" is a phrase that haters use when their jealous of your ability to get a woman who doesn't have stretch marks and a notch count that can't fit on two hands.

Post: #31

As. I am typing this, there is a girl 20 y/o naked in the bedroom. I'm 41. I liked it a lot

Post: #32

I like this topic. I'll expand on my experiences regarding it.

My girl is 14 years younger than me.

I'll say that she was younger than 19 when we started dating...

I've never used viagra, and at 34 years old, I fuck my girl 3 times a day when I'm with her. And that's because she can't spend the night (super strict parents, curfew).

All these older guys in America with wives their own age (plus overweight to boot!), being nagged into thinking they're impotent and need viagra...lol. 18 year olds are nature's viagra, man.

My previous serious girl was 18 when i was 26, so 8 years younger than me, and she had a 10 p.m. curfew during the first part of our relationship, until I flew her to meet my parents. After that, her parents allowed her to spend the night.

My dad's 26 years older than my mom, she was a Bancomer Girl for a bit when she worked at the bank, prior to meeting my dad, and she chose to be a housewife, but many of her brothers and sisters are attorneys and accountants, so she could have gone that route had she wanted to. For reference, here is a Bancomer Girl (tatoos would not have been allowed back then):



Since the thread is about older guys dating younger, I'll elaborate on my pops to show an example of what this type of relationship can be like.

My dad is THE MAN.

He's 81 years old now and my mom and him still go to sleep holding hands.

He still playfully flirts with her and keeps her on her toes, and she's 100% certain if something were to happen to her, he'd get himself a younger woman.

His politician friends, with their older wives, would often ask to be introduced to his daughter.

He would clarify that that was his wife.

To this day, he gets breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snacks, catered to him every day, by my mom, as well as any other tasks he might think of, the creation of which seems to be one of his favorite hobbies.

He'll be downstairs watching TV, and the phone will ring, right next to him. Instead of picking it up, in his low-pitched voice, he rumbles out, "Maaaaadre." That means mother in Spanish, but basically, he's calling my mom.

My mom will be upstairs doing something like knitting or practicing her English online (I bought her the Rosetta Stone English course, and she actually completed ALL of it), and she'll drop whatever she's doing, go downstairs, take the call, and then if it's for my dad, she'll pass it to him after checking with him to see if he wants to take the call.

Last year, after over 34 years of marriage, my mother was allowed to drive a car. This was primarily because my dad, while super healthy (he takes no medication, walks everywhere, and eats a lot every day) is losing some of his peripheral vision, which means eventually he won't be able to drive safely.

My siblings and I basically had an intervention and told him mom was going to have to learn how to drive.

He was not happy and tried preventing this in several ways, but we won and he eventually came around to the decision.

Now he's able to send my mom on more complex errands, for ice cream Snickers, for example.

He actually met my mom when she was 16, but they married later, when she was 20 or so, I don't remember her exact age at marriage.

The way they met is, my mom and her friend were giggling at a cafe, and my dad, being who he is, went up to them and said, "What's going on over here, what's so funny?" They started dating later on, but that was how they met.

Well, actually they had "met" much sooner when my mom was a kid and my father gave a speech. My mom was in the crowd, but my parents didn't realize that they were both there until after they started dating.

While my mom was still in school, word got around that she was dating my dad. From then on, she noticed she started getting A's in every class, even for work that should have been a B, or less. She later figured out that the teachers preferred not to get on my dad's bad side, so that's why she kept getting A's once they started dating.

Anyhow, my father has it pretty good.

Back to myself.

I was in the Philippines with my girl a while back, and we were spending the weekend at a house/compound on the beach with two of her girlfriends and their two boyfriends (she told her parents she was going with just her two girlfriends, and "assumed" permission was given. They flipped out and called over and over, but since we were already too far away at the beach, it was a fait accompli).

So anyhow, we get there late and go to bed. I wake up and head over to the kitchen, where my girl is. She tells me, "You must not be here, you must be with the men and discuss business." All right, so I go to the living room with the guys and chat.

A while later, my girl pops up and asks me if I would like breakfast. I say, "sure." She makes me breakfast, and places it on the table. I sit down to eat.

Here's the thing, instead of sitting down to eat with me, she stands a few feet away, looking at me.

I smile and say, "Take a seat, join me."

She shakes her head and says, "No, I must serve you. I will eat when you are done."

Well all right then.

So she refills my water, gets me more servings, and then once I'm done, she serves herself and we chat.

My prior girl, she was 18, when I would eat pistachios, she would take the bag away from me without me even asking, and she would open each pistachio for me and then hand it over.

You can imagine how making love to a woman like this is.

INCREDIBLE.

Every day.

That's been some of my experiences regarding this topic.

Keep in mind I have really strong filters (no tattoos, no drugs, no smoking, no alcohol, low or zero partner count, intact two-parent family, not materialistic, doesn't wear heels that are too high, dresses modestly, loves her mom and dad, no sexual hangups, takes joy in simply going out for a walk or baking a cake, and doesn't raise her voice (ever), for example), so these girls aren't like this just because they're young.

My previous girl would have ice cream parties with her friends at her place on the weekend. They'd hang out and make ice cream. Or bake things.

It's not for everyone, and YMMV, but I've got no complaints.

Post: #33

Spaniard, nice post. I imagine your parents were from Spain? And you yourself live in the Philippines? Just curious.

Post: #34

Great wisdom red pill dropped here:

Keep in mind I have really strong filters (no tattoos, no drugs, no smoking, no alcohol, low or zero partner count, intact two-parent family, not materialistic, doesn't wear heels that are too high, dresses modestly, loves her mom and dad, no sexual hangups, takes joy in simply going out for a walk or baking a cake, and doesn't raise her voice (ever), for example), so these girls aren't like this just because they're young.

Post: #35

(11-06-2016 11:30 AM)DRE Wrote:  Spaniard, nice post. I imagine your parents were from Spain? And you yourself live in the Philippines? Just curious.

So I thought about whether to post this or not, but in the end I decided that after I'm gone perhaps this post will still be here and someone will relate to it in some way, and that's great, so I went ahead and posted it.

My mom was Mexican, and she's American now, and my dad is American, but he grew up in Mexico because my grandfather, a manager at a GM factory in Michigan, caught my grandmother (a white American woman) in bed with another man, and he was like, "F this, I'm out." So he got the kids, left the house, and never came back, because he took them to Mexico and later married a Mexican woman.

It's pretty interesting actually, the reason my dad was born in America in the first place was because of the Mexican revolution. During the revolution, the peasants rose up against the aristocracy, and my great grandpa, being an hacendado (a large land owner), was tied to a tree and killed with rocks. The peasants forced my great grandma to watch this, and I'm told that after this event, she would pee and defecate without control.

So my great grandma and the other family members that were still alive had leather belts made for themselves and all the children, and the survivors placed the family gold in these belts, abandoned their land, and went as far from Mexico as they could, which ended up being Michigan, at the time.

This is actually the same thing that happened with Mitt Romney's dad and grandpa, they lived in Mexico, fled the violence of the Mexican revolution, and also ended up in Michigan. Essentially, a large portion of Mexico's upper class left during the revolution, it was a brain drain that still affects Mexico to this day, and now it's repeating itself due to the drug war.

Anyhow, that's how my grandpa ended up in Michigan, and it's why my father was born to an American woman. I don't know her ethnic background, we've heard Irish, Polish, and South African, which would probably be Dutch or English in that case, but we don't know. My dad is tall, like 6'1 or 6'2", so he was probably like 6'2" or 6'3" in his youth, and he has a blue ring around his eyes, which are the color of honey. My dad wants me to do a genetic background test because he has never known where that dominant part of his genes is from. I'll have to get around to it at some point, I'm a copy of my dad, we look like a tall version of Southern-European soccer players, but we have almond eyes, and he has a rare blood type that is common in Mongolia, so who knows. I also have some blonde hairs in my beard. I'm pretty curious as well, so we'll see.

I live in Austin TX, so I don't live in the Philippines right now, but I've lived there before, will probably live there again in 2017, and I may stay indefinitely this time. My girl tells her friends I'm Spanish, because Americans have a reputation for not being serious suitors in the Philippines, haha.

Post: #36

Spaniard,

Thanks for your post and wisdom. Everytime someone tries to say it's "unrealistic" to expect to marry a virgin, I always remind myself of my own prior experiences and those of other men like yourself. Some of the members of this very forum have said that any man expecting a woman to be a virgin before making any serious commitment to her is stupid, unrealistic, keyboard jockey, etc etc. To them, I say: Enjoy your sluts.

It's refreshing to hear that not only are my standards realistic, but that other men wiser and more experienced than myself are enjoying them right now. Thank you for your contributions.

Post: #37

(11-06-2016 04:44 PM)John_Galt Wrote:  Spaniard,

Thanks for your post and wisdom. Everytime someone tries to say it's "unrealistic" to expect to marry a virgin, I always remind myself of my own prior experiences and those of other men like yourself. Some of the members of this very forum have said that any man expecting a woman to be a virgin before making any serious commitment to her is stupid, unrealistic, keyboard jockey, etc etc. To them, I say: Enjoy your sluts.

It's refreshing to hear that not only are my standards realistic, but that other men wiser and more experienced than myself are enjoying them right now. Thank you for your contributions.

Thanks for the compliment, Galt, but I don't know about being wiser and more experienced, I'm only 34. I'll take it, though.

Regarding the topic, I've also had the other kind of girl. My second girlfriend (I was like 19) was actually voted "Most likely to become a porn star" by her senior class. This girl had the body of one of those Telenovela girls, she'd walk in a room and guys would immediately notice.

She was definitely more experienced than I was, and it wasn't even close, even though she was...18.

My little brother's friends would stop playing ball when she walked by and would just stare.

One of them actually came up to me and said, "When I grow up, I want to have a girl like yours, Spaniard."

But it sucked, man. The days were rough, I basically tried to fast forward every day of that relationship and go straight to the night.

I remember we went to a strip club for her birthday as a favor for her, and I don't usually frequent strip clubs, I'm a strong believer in "If you play in the mud, you're going to get dirty," but it was her birthday, so I indulged her. After being there a bit, she gets upset and calls the security over and goes, "Where are your pretty strippers? I didn't come here to see girls less attractive than me strip!"

The security guy goes, "We don't have anyone here more attractive than you."

So she decides if she can't watch a woman more beautiful than her strip, then she'll just have to strip! She positions my seat so that she can give me a lap dance, then proceeds to pop open my shirt, pours a beer down my chest, and drinks it, while stripping, with the rest of the patrons paying attention to her instead of the strippers.

From the outside looking in, it looked good, but on the inside, it was shit-test after shit-test. If I was a decent human being to her, she'd disrespect me. If I was, literally, debasing her, then she'd treat me well.

It was nuts, and if I hadn't had some other experiences in my life, I would have thought this was just the way most women were now, all over the world.

But that's not true, it's just damaged women that are like that, her family situation, though financially very secure, was not ideal, and she had alcohol issues.

She wasn't a complete train wreck, she was just playing the hand she was dealt, and I would say she was a good person, but she just wasn't for me. She's even doing well for herself, all things considered, and she'll still reach out sometimes.

Many guys will never get past those girls, though, and so they think that's just the way it is.

It isn't.

There's other roads, less travelled.

I won't be in that kind of relationship ever again.

Furthermore, those girls damage you, man. It actually took me a while to realize this, but she damaged me, and it affected my relationships afterwards.

I'm now a kinder, gentler, but still VERY firm, Spaniard.

Post: #38

Men of all ages are biologically programmed to be attracted to girls from puberty onwards. If you are attracted to a pre-pubescent girl, that is weird and sick, and you should be locked up if you ever act on it. However, once a girl is fertile, it is biologically normal for men to be attracted to her. In fact, throughout the vast majority of civilized history, a girl was considered ready to marry once she became fertile.

In fact, it is scientifically proven (as far as I know) that when a woman hits her early-to-mid twenties, her chances of having a retarded or Down syndrome child goes up. According to Wikipedia, the chances of a 20-year-old mother giving birth to a Down syndrome child is 0.1%, whereas with a 45-year-old mother it is a whopping 3%:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_syndrome

Additionally, as men, it is in our nature to go for younger women in order to have as many healthy children as possible.

So no, OP, I do not believe it is fucked up for a 30-year-old man to date a 19-year-old girl. I think it is good for girls to look for a good man as early as possible.

As far as having a more casual relationship with a younger girl, I think it is generally the girl's responsibility to avoid men who are not looking for commitment. However, if a girl (of any age) is putting herself out there and making herself available to men for casual hookups, you would be a fool not to take advantage of the situation. If you don't do it, some other guy will.

Post: #39

Delete. My computer is being a bitch and I double-posted my response by mistake.

Post: #40

(11-05-2016 10:06 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  Keep in mind I have really strong filters (no tattoos, no drugs, no smoking, no alcohol, low or zero partner count, intact two-parent family, not materialistic, doesn't wear heels that are too high, dresses modestly, loves her mom and dad, no sexual hangups, takes joy in simply going out for a walk or baking a cake, and doesn't raise her voice (ever), for example), so these girls aren't like this just because they're young.

Where do you scout for this angels, in the abode of God?

Post: #41

Being in my late 20's and looking better than ever (not bragging, I wasn't good looking at all but I now understand why men are in their prime around their 30's) I now have 3 steady girls of 26, 22 and the youngest is 18. Some friends gave me a weird look and some shit about the 18 year old but honestly, fuck them.

Do whatever YOU want (within the rules of the law, obviously) and don't put up with any shit from outsiders. It's your life, your choice (and hers) and if you feel happy about it, go for it. If friends judge you for it, consider finding some new friends.

Post: #42

(11-14-2016 01:12 PM)ksbms Wrote:  

(11-05-2016 10:06 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  Keep in mind I have really strong filters (no tattoos, no drugs, no smoking, no alcohol, low or zero partner count, intact two-parent family, not materialistic, doesn't wear heels that are too high, dresses modestly, loves her mom and dad, no sexual hangups, takes joy in simply going out for a walk or baking a cake, and doesn't raise her voice (ever), for example), so these girls aren't like this just because they're young.

Where do you scout for this angels, in the abode of God?

Well, you generally DON'T find them in bars, nightclubs, or house parties.

My ex was working as a cashier in the cafeteria of the building where I worked as a stock broker, she was paying her way through college. Before I asked her out, her friend and her had asked each other who they thought was the most handsome guy in the building, and she told her friend she thought I was, so the attraction was there from the beginning.

Also before I asked her out, her guy coworker, another cashier, I think he may have been getting a little jealous of my interactions with her, came up to her once and said, "you know that guy, Spaniard, he always stares at your ass whenever he comes to the cafeteria."

My girl says when he told her that, she was like, "I know!" And it made her feel great that I'd noticed her.

Anyhow, she was half Filipina, and after dating her, I realized my odds of finding another girl like that in America were slim to none.

So I resolved to go to the source.

And that's how I met my current girl, who is a Filipina, living in the Philippines. Don't get me wrong, I had to filter through quite a few here as well, but the difficulty of the task here is within reason, whereas in America it's a different animal altogether, to the point where the juice just isn't worth the squeeze.

Here's the thing, to me, girls like these are priceless, as it takes 18 years of great parenting to produce them. These girls aren't the product of some fly-by-night operator, they're the product of strong, omnipresent fathers.

Both my girls have told me, "You're like my father..."

Some of the values they admire in their fathers, the ability to protect, and a firm, guiding hand, for example, they see in me.

To be honest, if you're in the west, I'm not sure if I'd even look. If you happen to meet one by chance, fantastic, but I'd focus on getting your finances together and becoming location independent, the ROI is just far higher.

It just depends on what you're looking for, though.

I can sleep with a new girl every three weeks or so in Austin if I want, I mean, I'm not some amazing player like some of the guys on this forum, but when I focus on going out, a new girl every three weeks is pretty reasonable for me. The problem with that is I'm playing in the mud, so even if they're good looking, they'll have psychological issues like narcissism, or worse, an STD. So if I do that, it's just a matter of time before I get something, and in the end, is that exchange really worth it?

In other words, is the juice worth the squeeze?

Only you can make that call.